I've Ranked Guild Wars 2's Best Mysteries & Outstanding Plot Threads
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Malyck, E, The Wizards Tower... Honestly thinking of these cliff-hangers and as yet-unresolved lore bombs actually did a lot to excite me about the next era of the game. Maybe I still missed some stuff, though?
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Mystery tier list aka WP struggles for 30 minutes loving the game and wanting to put everything in S-rank.
You can also tell from how he's constantly defending himself from criticism we couldn't possibly have given yet hahaha
I hope you guys are still having fun with these!
Bruh. Bruhbruhbruh. Keep these coming and I might just decide to go to that patreon for the first time lmao
You forgot the biggest misery of them all right now!
Where's Brahams bow?
😂😂😂
Loving the tier lists keep it up!
Loving this sort of content for the amount of discussion it provides. Speaking of, I am shocked you omitted Lyssa and her scheming apart from the rest of the gods.
Make a ranking video of living world maps. Best metas, currencies, atmosphere, design, etc. That would ve fun!!
I'm really hoping that the devs will use EoD to reintroduce the dwarves. Although I realize that it's a long shot, imagine them as a playable race... How fantastic that would be. "Many years ago, far to the south in Cantha, relics of a mysterious race, possibly an offshoot of the Deldrimor dwarves, were uncovered in the Aurios Mines of the Jade Sea. This is the only indication of any dwarven presence on the southern continent, and remains unexplained to this day."
Ok the Dominion of Winds is cool and all, but we know where it is and we can base what we see on the tarnished coast to think what's inside. However there's a race present in the beginning of the game that we have no idea of where they come from... THE LARGOS
YES!
I believe we will see a lot of them in EoD, since they were pushed from the depth with kraits and quaggans by bubble
I really hope we learn something about the Krait Blue Orb in EOD
I actually think this mystery should of been worth a mention. What is the story behind balthazar and the other gods? Why does he have Lyssa's mirror, why did he curse all of the gods except for Lyssa?
they bangin' I'm sure
@@RbDaP Well yuh. War and politics.
The biggest mystery of all is why there's still a gaping hole larger than the Great Collapse between the Personal Story and Season 2 for new players to fall into.
Lyssa's Mirror and her ties to Balthazar, the separate world of mushrooms merged with ours in Jahai Bluffs, the Largos in general, and the Krait too. I'd personally like a follow up to the Awakened Sylvari you meet during All or Nothing too.
Bring Largos back! I think they might since they made an appearance in the Skimmer diving questing.
The Wizards Tower is the mystery I'd like solved if I had to pick one. I didn't play GW1 but I remember being fascinated by the floating castle the second I arrived in that small, elemental filled fishing village. It was so cool and I can't believe nothing has been done with it since.
I need to know more about the Largos as a race, no doubt they had something to do with the DSD and I also want to know about the Pale Tree herself post Mordremoth finding out what the relationship is between them. Like is Mordremoth really the granddaddy of the all the plant races of Tyria?
Sometimes I forget how much cool lore, stories and mysteries this franchise has
And it's a shame they do not expand on them that much. There are so many things they could do!
Im new to GW2 thank you for all the content you have been putting out
I'm still curious about whether the Consortium will ever amount to anything considering how mysterious they've been and how much emphasis was put on them in the rebuild of Lion's Arch and Fractals of the Mists.
They were even relevant in those rift events with the Inquest and Priory! How strange...
Mist Stranger is a reflection of the Commander, who gets lost in the Mists some time in the future. You heard it here first.
I was having similar thoughts to this as well. Totally see them going in this direction
I'd like to see Xotecha as a location in the mists.
Populated by people who colonized the mists after they destroyed their own land by overusing magic. Kinda like an Atlantis-type story. It could explain why some of the design elements showed up elsewhere.
Did not watch the video yet but I assume the floating wizards tower is on top of the list 😂😀
Three other mysteries that could have been added.
The origins of the Colossus and Largos are two mystery’s along with the mysterious blue ball that repelled the Risen in the Personal Story.
Also where the next SAB level is lol
Malyck: Was it not suggested that he comes from the tree that eventually becomes the corrupted "blighted depths" tree in VB?
the wiki specifically says his tree isnt any of the blighting trees in the heart of maguuma
I'm not so sure Livia herself counts as a mystery anymore. I would love to have her appear in more stories, but the only mystery she has left is the link to where the Scepter of Orr currently is. She made it clear that she is no longer in possession of it and that's a very powerful artifact to be casually floating around in universe undocumented.
She also was in Sea of Sorrows book
SoooOOooo Gargoyles disappearing is of no concern to anyone? :O - Would love to see some kind of explanation on this - I think that is a "Mystery" the devs could really play with and make up a funny story about.
Around when the first halloween happened and in the dev stream someone asked why the gargoyles are in the mad lab and why they look so different, and the devs whoever they were seemed kind of confused and said something along the lines of "we just thought they were a cool spooky enemy" i dont think theyre thinking about the gargoyles seriously.
@@RPGCrash that is the saddest think I've heard today :(
Here's a wild one for you - Aurene's name means "golden" in Latin - what if the "dragon heart" in Pyrite peninsula is actually Aurene's - after some weird, timey-wimey stuff happens (potentially in End of Dragons itself, and maybe even related to "Mother")? Honestly, otherwise her name seems kind of out of place since she's not golden-colored (and no longer even blue), but prismatic.
Living World Map tier list :-)
I remember a dev once said that they were going to put wing 4 on the Isle of Janthir but changed it for story reasons. I think that is a pretty strong hint it's Mursaat related.
Bobby Stein, Colin Johanson and Joe Kimmes were answering questions while streaming GW1 in the Extra Life stream last week and they were asked about the Nameless lich and none of them had no idea who the npc even was so that mystery is buried for sure. They said the npc was probably added by another dev who started working on GW1 before they did and no longer works at the studio. I recommend checking it out there were lot's of cool questions!
If Anet covers everything you put in this tierlist for the remainder of gw2, I believe we'll have years of content to come. Im not too sure what they have planned after the new expansion, because there's a lot of missing threads, but it would definitely please the fanbase and give more content to players
Thanks for the insightful video as always! Here's my speculation regarding the fate of the human homeworld and Doern's kingdom in the planet Tyria (Thyria) as the two are kinda connected in the timeline as a consequence of the other.
1) The potential fate of the human homeworld
1.1) First, let's look at what the Orrian history scrolls (which are admittedly lacking in information and also biased based on human religious views/myths so we should take them with a grain of salt):
1.1.1) Dwayna: "The first of the gods to step forth from the mists was Dwayna, goddess of air and life. She placed her pale foot on the stones of Arah, opened the gates, and brought humanity to the world. She chose Tyria and brought with her those who would make this world a paradise. As she had promised, Dwayna led her people to peace."
So, Dwayna led her people to peace, implying that wherever humanity came from was not peaceful. Thus potential conflict of some kind.
1.1.2) Balthazar: "Balthazar came in fire and wrath, carrying the head of his father and leading his fierce hounds, Temar and Tegon. He swept Orr with a cleansing flame. It was he who claimed Tyria for humanity; he who said the other races would be easy to defeat. It would not be the only time that the Master of War was wrong."
Balthazar was carrying the severed head of his father. While the newer PoF lore devs claimed that this was proof that Balthazar was always ruthless and never a good guy, we actually don't know the context of why he was carrying dad's head. Was it a grim war trophy or possibly done as an act of reverence for the fallen as some native tribes were known to do IRL with pieces of their fallen friends and enemies to gain their strength?
What's also interesting is the fact that the head of Balthy's dad was intact. Meanwhile, if we look at the deaths of the fallen god Abaddon and the former god Balthazar, we see their forms disintegrating upon their demise, leaving no physical vessel behind. So, does this mean that Balthy's dad was mortal since the head didn't disintegrate after he was beheaded? We know Menzies is Balthy's half-brother, so the brothers only shared one parent. If Balthy's dad was a mortal, it would then suggest that the mother might've been a goddess, and we'd see a kind of echo of the Dwayna and mortal sculptor (potentially Malchor based on the retroactive edits the writers did to the description in Grenth's DR statue from Malchor to Desmina) tragic romance there.
1.1.3) Melandru: "Next came the goddess of nature. Wise Melandru, oldest of them all, made of Orr a green and flowering expanse. She urged peace with the races already present on this world, but her advice was not heeded. When she saw destruction, she brought creation. Where she saw anger, she grew love. With this, Melandru prepared for a future she knew would be troubled."
Melandru was among the wisest of the gods, perhaps only surpassed by the princely Abaddon. She prepared for a future she knew would be troubled, but could it be that this insight was based on something she'd witnessed earlier somewhere, potentially in the human homeworld? Perhaps she didn't want past mistakes to be repeated now that they had entered Tyria.
1.1.4) Lyssa: "The two who are one, Issa and Lys, brought with her the hope and beauty of humanity. While the other gods focused on building Arah and beginning a new future, Lyssa gave them joy and helped them forget the past."
Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but to me the grammar here leaves it ambiguous who "they" are in the context of the sentence. Did Lyssa help humanity forget the past, or the gods? Or both? Whoever the target of such an act were, the fact that they wanted to forget the past suggests some sort of tragic or horrific event. Why else would they want to forget what had happened? Perhaps something that happened on the human homeworld?
1.1.5) Abaddon: "Among them was Abaddon-once secret-keeper, now betrayer. How you have fallen from the glorious days of old. What passed beyond in the Mists, only you remember."
Lyssa helped "them" forget the past, but Abaddon still somehow remembered what had happened. Sadly we don't know what exactly he knew and if he acted upon this hidden knowledge to enact his plans. Still, it's a curious emphasis in the texts, suggesting that Abaddon knew more than he was letting on about what had happened back in the day.
Source: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Orrian_History_Scrolls
1.2) Second, if we look at the textures on the Harbinger of Woe who challenges us to tackle more dangerous encounters in fractal challenge modes, we notice that he has a pattern showing a planet, great destruction, and a void. If we swap the locations of textures 1 and 2 in the wiki's image gallery, we actually see a potential chronological progression in the images:
a) the planet is oversaturated with what appears to be heavy concentrations of magic surrounding it
b) the planet is torn in half in a cataclysm of epic proportions
c) nothing remains afterwards except a deep void in a sea of stars, potentially suggesting that the extinction event wiped out the entire planet that thus fell into the void, leaving no trace of it behind
Source: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Harbinger_of_Woe
1.3) Devs have stated that there are no parallels per se between the Six Gods and the six Elder Dragons. But what if there's some connection?
We've seen that divine magic (both the "native" Tyrian divine magic such as Spirits of the Wild vs. Drakkar, and outside Tyria divine magic tied to the gods such as Eternal Flame or uncorruptable Exalted vs. dragon minions) counters dragon corruption, which might explain why a depowered Balthazar (if he still had a spark of divinity within him) was safely able to waltz into Primordus's lair without being eaten or corrupted by him. We know a single god dying (e.g. Abaddon) is enough to potentiall destroy two realms in the Mists (Realm of Torment and planet Thyria) while we require (or required until Dragonstorm) just three Elder Dragon deaths without replacements to likewise doom Thyria.
What if the reason for this discrepancy is that as god magic isn't native to Tyria, just one god dying is enough to upset the magical balance, while the same effect could happen if one Elder Dragon had died on the gods' homeworld due to the dragon likewise having foreign magic in that planet's ecosystem? What if the six gods were the balancers to their homeworld's The All like the six dragons are balancers to Thyria's the All?
If there was a war between gods (if Balthy carrying his dad's severed head is any indication) or some other catastrophe that led to excess magic (similar to the Dragonstorm or Abaddon death scenarios except there being no Kormir, Aurene or Joon dragonjade machine equivalent to contain and siphon the magic), it could've either overcharged the planet or reduced its magic level and thus torn it in half, forcing gods to take the remnants of humanity with them on a grand exodus to another habitable world. It would explain the clues in Orrian history scrolls about Lyssa helping "them" forget the past, Dwayna promising to bring her people to "peace", and Melandru preparing for a troubled future.
Interestingly Ogden and the Apostate state the following regarding what happens to Thyria's Antikytheria system of the All if the world is filled with too much or too little magic (from deaths of balancers or if one or more balancers eat too much magic without counters):
> If you're not mistaken, this ancient tome was written by someone known as the Apostate. It appears to describe something similar to what you saw in your vision of the Eternal Alchemy.
> The author calls it the Antikytheria, describing it as a cosmic mechanism made of many parts, all spinning around a central body known in ancient Krytan as Thyria.
> Six large bodies orbit the world, existing in primal symbiosis. The energies move with the push and pull of positive and negative, ever in motion.
> The Apostate says one thing that is especially troubling... "Should the energies become imbalanced, the world will tilt and all beings will fall off it into the void." It's probably a metaphor.
Source: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Map_of_the_All
> Ogden Stonehealer: The gods expound on how Tyria's health is tied directly to them [the Elder Dragons]. This portion is somewhat abstract, however.
> Ogden Stonehealer: There are varied theories on what it means, but I believe it refers to the natural balance of magic.
> Ogden Stonehealer: Too much magic, and the world spins out of control. Too little, and it crumbles into darkness.
Source: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hidden_Arcana
More interestingly Aurene made a point to tell us in "The End" instance and the dragonflight in Season 4 that we can't just kill Kralkatorrik in the Mists or his magic will not return to Tyria and we doom the planet Thyria, thus our need to lure him first back to Tyria before finishing him off there. If the balancer analogue holds true for dragons and gods per the theory, if a god (or gods) of the previous generation was/were slain in the Mists rather than on humanity's homeworld, it would've had catastrophic consequences to the homeworld even if Balthazar or whoever had replaced the previous gods as the process of magic dissipation would've already happened and destroyed the planet.
So, with all that in mind, it's possible that there's no longer any homeworld that humanity (and Forgotten if they truly come from the same world as humans) could return to, and so gods need to find an entirely new planet to populate, hopefully without its version of six evil dragon-like balancers of the All.
In the next post in this thread, let's look at how Doern's kingdom might tie into this human exodus from the homeworld to planet Thyria.
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I know shes basically in every gw2 mystery video, but you missed the whole Lyssa mystery!
I'm still working on the Lyssa Theory. Keep an eye out for it on reddit.
What about Kanaxai? A mysterious demon trapped under the Jade Sea capable of corrupting and transforming humans into Oni. He was the only demon in GW1 not associated with Abaddon and we never really got to the bottom of what he was or where he came from. Was he awake and active before being frozen beneath the Jade Sea or was he asleep until the Jade Wind/Luxon delvers woke him up? Could he be connected to the DSD given his location and powers of corruption or to future content in the Mists?
Re: Inquest - apparently there was a scrapped plot in making Episode 2 Season 4 where Phlunt was to be revealed as the leader and had kidnapped Zojja, hence us not seeing her for ages . . . sadly dropped because Taimi had been the one who had been kidnapped in the previous episode, and it would be a re-tread of 'female Asura genius kidnapped'. Big missed opportunity because as an enemies since it would be good to shut the book on Inquest who have been twirl-their-moustache evil presenece streadily across the years of Living World (except Icebrood Saga).
I would like a collection of amended instances that addresses things that they didn't have time for initially. They don't necessarily need to have us in them.
Love these vids, and it's great having frequent uploads from you again WP. Really building that expansion hype.
Balth wasn't mentioned? Is he dead? Is there still Six gods? Was that Menzies pretending to be Balth?
GW1 Wiki: Menzies the Mad, also known as the Lord of Destruction, is the evil half-brother of Balthazar. Though never seen, he commands the Shadow Army and other shadow related creatures such as the Darknesses. He seeks to usurp Balthazar in order to gain Balthazar's powers and take control of the Fissure of Woe.
The Parable of Lyssa suggests that Balthazar is still around.
A yearly reminder that Anet let a lot of story threads hang loose...
Man this made me excited for gw2 again! You made me get back into the game i think.
I've come back in the past 5 days and I've been enjoying it very much. I had a few 80s from HoT release and a few I had boosted to 80 but, decided to start a thief from scratch doing storyline and already hit lvl 67 so far.
The Mist Stranger maybe is the hero (player character) of GW1 how comes back to help in someway in a future
threat.
Not in particular order:
1. Rifts, shadowstone, Auris Weirdbringer, 97. Those current events had me hyped as shit and kept the entire community on toes and with tinfoil hats on. Great fun was had speculating on reddit and with friends. I just miss that mood.
2. Found, or at least actively discussed during the same LS3 era: when you play a piano in Ebonhawke, you get shot from something sounding like a rifle - this one might be just a funny characterization of neighbors that don't tolerate noise? :'D
3. Origin of EoTN.
4. Ancient Orr and Tyria in general. I just want the history of this world to be deeper and richer than Anet's probably ever cared.
5. More about Desmina, how she's been faring.
6. Some fractals are probably meant to be mysterious one-offs and not much else, but I keep wondering about Viirastra/Artsariiv. And other celestial creatures, such as those we meet in Desert Highlands. This might even be related to the ??? shroom zone in Jahai :'D
7. Samarog and Deimos? They might fall in the same sad category as fractals, but damn, I wish we saw more similar creatures, and, if lucky, got some lore.
Really love these videos WP - your enthusiasm for these mysteries is infectious and gets my excited for the future of the game :D
My thought on the "Gods have a new garden" and other worlds of humans and things along that line is that it is the devs' method of moving into a new game.
The studio was considering closing down gw2 and moving to new projects and that's around the time when they started propping up the Gods moving on. I believe it will stay there as a thread for them to use when they want a change of world. It allows them the option of moving to a blank slate whilst keeping some of the character styles that players like so they have something to entice them into the new game
I agree that it's a setup for a new game, but I'd love to see them combine the "garden of the gods" and the "human homeworld" into a game set in Tyria's future. I haven't seen many people try to build futuristic magical worlds and I think Anet could be the studio to do it well.
Perfect tier list! Though I wonder why there is no mention of Lyssa/Lyssa’s mirror and Menzies?
He did say he only explores those that have high chance of being explored by the ANet. HOWEVER, I think Lyssa is still on the table. If you /kneel infront of all the Six Gods' statues, only Lyssa's grant you boons.
@@OniZai i think both got a chance post eod, more than xotecha and others on the list…
I’m not sure if Lysa is totally gone - she is in Lore as loving the mortal realm and even if she left with the others she’s a twin Goddess has her twin also left?
Love the recent content storm. Feels great to see you rejuvenated!
I think it is good they keep a lot of EoD close to their chest, I felt PoF's hype was tempered down due to leaks. The other mystery I want ANet to resolve is about Magdaer, the legendary sword we sent for repair.
I am still holding out hope with my theory that E is Evennia. We never learned what happened to her after she went to Ascalon in GW1. I could even see her being a ghost, but still helping Kryta through her letters. Or real crack theory, she was transported to the Mist and has now shown back up as the Mist Stanger. Yeah that isn't that likely.
Maybe Livia shared some of her immortality with a fellow member of the Shining Blade. 👀
@@Gorrebell I could see that as well. Could swing into more from the Mursaat since we never got a good payoff with the White Mantel finding all the Aspects and what Xera and her followers were doing over what Caudicus was doing.
I'm so excited to get to see inside the wizard's tower! It's finally happening in 2023 with GW2 'Secrets of the Obscure'
The Wizards Tower has bugged me for YEARS....but the Wizards Fief will continue to be my comfort area to just sorta idle and hang out in
My personal mystery lore bugbear is what exactly caused part of the Maguuma Jungle to transform into the Maguuma Wastes. ArenaNet suggested it had been attributed to the Elder Dragons, but it had not been outright confirmed while also referencing other nefarious agents may have been at work.
Talking about mysteries, the mursaat are still there for me, they are fascinating, the seers even more and I also like everything that was forgotten related.
Between the new races, the largos are by far the more mysterious ones. I hope they do something about them now, with the deep sea dragon I think it is the moment for them to shine. I got the feeling of the lonely and really strong warrior from them that I used to have with norns in Eotn.
Also, where did the charr came from when they arrived ascalon again in gw1? they were living more in the east before that right? would like to see where they were living during the time the humans reigned in Ascalon.
Its crazy to think about how many possibilities ArenaNet has to go with the Story or to implement interesting new stories when seeing all these "Mysteries" and open Plots
one thing you left out, was the sudden appearance of the Stone Summit. Thought to be extinct.
The biggest gw2 mystery of all: why is LA mapchat like that?
Why is LA like that
So hanging mysteries is what happened with Razah the mist entity hero we recruit at the end of nightfall? Is he still around and what of the state of the other gods realms like the Fissue of Woe. Is menzies still alive?
My theory, The Mist Stranger is the playable hero character from GW1.
I love this idea!!!!
@@sarahburke7164 Right though!? I doubt we'll ever get any concerte info on who this person is, but I can be hopeful. We see how well we got an answer for who E was so.... yeah lol.
was about to call you barking about the lich from gw1. But when you mentioned hanging out with the dwarves. Its interesting theres this weird plot point in season 4 where the dwarves seem to know about the greater plan - and how jokos death was one of many steps - this is another instance of dwarves having a connection to lich grandschemes.
There is even reference in GW1 in the Temple of Ages that the Gods have left to cultivate new worlds.
looking at the Mist Strangers arm makes me think its Trahearne. sylvari body's can change a lot
Mist Stranger HINT!: Didn't he(she?) give us a Daydreamer weapon skin? What is the lore tie-in there? Are those skins associated with Lyssa? Remember Ritlock meeting Balthazar in the Mists, and Balthazar having Lyssa's mirror? Did he acquire that mirror in the mists too? Now the 'Mist Stranger' is giving us Daydreamer weapons.
Bring in the "Tengu Realm" and fill out the core tyria maps. Sparkfly Fen has a blocked map portal, the Dominion of Winds is uncharted territory, the Brisban Wildlands have an unused portal. I want the world map to feel more connected! Mount Maelstrom still has a blocked-of portal as well.
I like the idea that the Mist Stranger is actually a native of the human homeworld. Maybe he is acting as a "warden of Tyria" and we get to see the magic/technology of the human homeworld being used to preserve this "new" project that Gods have kinda left behind. We probably won't see the human homeworld directly, but I think it would be so cool to have these little sneak peaks and tidbits through an emissary like the Mist Stranger!
Loving all these uploads lately
Hey WP, my idea for a Tier Ranking. Not sure if anyone has suggested yet. The music of Guild Wars 2. So many awesome emotional tracks that brings back nostalgia. Too many for one tier list vid imo. Different categories could be Core game, expansion, map music, emotional, battle/encounter music etc.
The garden of the gods is such a cool story. We could be talking about guild wars 3 here. What if they bring us there?! I mean kormir thought what they were doing there was so important that they left us to figure out the dragons on our own. Very interesting stuff
I love how WP discovered the tier list and now have the untamed POWER haha, Legendary, Meta event, Maps Pls do them all!
Anise - there’s been story seeds that she’s older than she appears. There’s a lovely conversation with Canach where he challenges her on it and she tells him that if he says it where anyone can hear she will kill him. There’s only random seeds, Queen Jennah appears more powerful than your ‘average’ Mesmer but is the power all hers.
The heir of Kryta - again only story seeded. It’s first mentioned in human Level 30 story when the orders are debating saving the Queen. Mentioned again in Living Story 3 - you can escort a caravan with Braham which carries a magical locket that shows the next Krytan heir. It’s hinted Caudicus thinks it’s Logan which is one reason for his attempts to remove him as well as the fact if Anise is the Queen’s right hand Logan was her left. (I suspect Faren but hopeI am wrong).
Logan said he was changed in the blighting pod in HOT which is one reason for him removing himself from Divinities Reach but as yet we don’t know what these changes are.
I suspect there’s a reason Queen Jennah has cut him loose (If you read the letters between them in the novel the attraction did not seem to be one sided) but that may also be a dangling plot line.
I love your tier lists. However, why did you put "Jade Tech"? Maybe I'm wrong, but hasn't this only been introduced with EoD teasers? So it's not really in ingame or in lore meystery (yet). I mean otherwise something like "what is expansion 4 about" is a mystery as well, no?
The Pact future and Pact Tech is the thread i would like to investigate more. How it will be ran after its funding goal is achieved - all elder dragons vanquished. Will pact dissolve. Will it guard new dragon generation or be corrupted by power they have? And the Pact Tech, powerful to fight dragons head on. Possibly no nation can compete with it on its own technologically. Pact also have access to fleet of warship that probably can conquer most nations...
I have never heard of the nameless litch and I believed I had fairly good grasp of the lore, I doubt Anet is actively thinking about it
It doesn't excite me, it just makes me think of how many plot threads and characters they just throw at us, then never resolve. And then rather then focus on an existing plot (other pale trees, for example) they make up a new one with Joon and Jade....
To elaborate, I just look at the deus ex machina of the Glory of Tyria.
The deus ex machina of fighting Mordy in the dream cause Plant Commander can suddenly enter the dream.
Rytlock in the Mist just... failing to be coherent
Tami can put Elder Dragons to sleep.
Killing elder dragons is good. No, now its bad. Wait, its ok again cause Aurene is here.
Vlast dies to save us.. but we come back from the dead an hour later... way to make that sacrifice matter.
Gods can't fight dragons because that would be to destructive... so uh, just let the mortals do it? Why leave Tyria when we are killing them just fine... Did no god ever get a prayer about glint in 250 years?
Shining Blade is totally find with adding every race to it, despite being a human centric order to protect the throne and basically but a death curse on us?
I could go on... but my point is I really don't trust them to pay off on a mystery based on their past track record. They have lost the trust.
It is time to be reallistic about the golden orb in orr. When it was added there were not any idea of dragon hearths, but there was idea of gold styled magic related to the gods and more importantly to the forgotten who worked with the gods. It just show there was forgotten activity in the area teasing the path 3 of arah. Even if ignor the fact it predate idea that dragons have a heard and even that dragons explode on death (as big undead Z didnt) you cant get over the fact there is similar orb underwater in cused shore, does that make orr dragon graveyeard or something?
Who is the,, The Great dwarf", Depths of Tyria exploration, and also Largos content.
Hey WP I'd love to hear your thoughts on these two topics.
At this point will Anet ever give us a proper do-over of season 1 of the living world? Is there no way of threading the main story points of season 1 while fixing the problamatic parts of the story? It's been so long I honestly don't even remember what went wrong in season 1.
Aurenes capability as a vessel for dragon magic comes from her lineage through Glint and Kralkattoric. Why are Sylvari unable to do the same as spawns of the Pale Tree who is herself an orphaned champion of Mordremoth? How would the races interact if it turned out that every Sylvari was a potential battery, or bomb of dragon magic?
The idea of the gods new garden is mote fascinating to me out of those two. As far as im aware the PC and friends do not have a high opinion of the gods right now, and to go into this place with these new races and peoples or new "set" of humans and try to explain the gods arent so great, theyve done this before and abandoned us but the people cant see how that could be true.
This comment is less of a theory/mystery and more pure desperation on my part, but what if Palawa Joko is still out there somewhere? Zafira and Aurene quoted Balthazar to each other, implying that since Aurene absorbed some of Balthazar's soul (she has pretty much all of it now that Kralk is dead), she has some of his memories. Perhaps that means whatever remains of Joko's soul is inside Aurene? I'm not really a subscriber to the theory of "Aurene's growling when she eats Joko sounds like Joko laughing" theory, but I think it would be really cool for Joko's nature of being such a powerful undead being to make his soul more resilient. So if Aurene's power was ever released back out into the wild, Joko's soul wouldn't just be vague fragments that would drift off to the Mists. He could turn into a ghost of some sort.
Again, I'm really reaching here. It's just because Joko was such an amazing character and I think he was killed off before reaching his full potential.
Not sure how much you've been in game recently. But this year's Halloween event featured the ghost of Palawa Joko in the mad realm replacing Prince Thorn as the Mad King's rival. Their banter heavily implied that this is Joko's final resting place unless future story beats change it.
@@mattd5857 Ah fuck. I did miss Halloween in GW2 this year.
At least this does mean that he *can* be brought back. I don't have high hopes he will. But the character is on the shelf now instead of being obliterated forever so I'm content for the moment.
Lyssa's Mirror, Balthazaar's replacement, Desmina's intentions after taking down Dhuum, Arkk and Dessa?
I know almost nothing about the mist stranger, but when they appeared on screen my first thought was: "what if that's the commander from the future, who's now taken to traveling through the mists, and uses the mists to time travel?"
The only problem with that is that the Mist Stranger is a human, when you can play as 5 races.
Razah would be on my list, no reason he still wouldn't be around
: Any idea what's happening with the other Elder Dragons?
Taimi: Nothing on Kralkatorrik, and ditto for... Oh, what's its name? Brain malfunction. Starts with an s...?
WP, you missed the mystery of those alien fungi in Jahai!!
the concept of an alien planet far off from tyria is S tier to me, and it makes me sad to see the devs haven't gone back to that
I don't know if this really counts, but I've always wondered what happened to Vekk from GW1. Compared to other prominent asura of his day as well as the other EotN heroes, he doesn't get a whole lot of tribute paid to him in GW2. There are a few off-hand references to him in the vanilla game, but they're hard to find and don't really say anything about his life. Not until HoT do we get anything even remotely substantial where during an event in Rata Novus a console suggests he became a teacher. The most significant piece we have is in Istan of all places where you can read an excerpt from his biography at the Astralarium. However, most of that excerpt is just a Priory Scholar praising the book. It seems he studied Scrying Pools for whatever that's worth. Might not be much of a mystery, but it always struck me as odd that Vekk is so obscure compared to his contemporaries.
It would be great if the gods created a new race to worship them on their new world, so when we finally find them we'd come into conflict with their new chosen.
What do you think of them doing an expansion or lws episode on the Realm of Torment. The rift is still there in Vabbi. I think I remember that the forged were trying to keep it closed or something? (Correct me if I’m wrong on that part please), but they did at least show that it was more than just there by chance in my opinion. They even jabbed at the idea of it in A Star To Guide Us in a collection type achievement. You can collect a tooth from a tormented enemy. The tormented were residents of the realm of torment and I believe they were servants of Abaddon if my memory serves me right.
Calling it now -- Mist Stranger is Commander from the future.
The Forgotten had a presence in Arah, and they also created the Exalted. The Pyrite Peninsula could be a result of their experimentation, or perhaps more interestingly the orb could have been there long before the Forgotten and they merely used it for the Exalted's apotheosis (turning them into dragon minions?)
I'm gonna jump the shark:
The Mist Stranger is a warden from Xotecha, and is Trahearne from an alternate timeline where the Commander doesn't exist and the elder dragon's consumed everything on Tyria.
Isnt the nameless lich reference in the later festival (the one celebrating release of gw2)? i am pretty sure one of the npcs talks about adventures he have with nameless lich (and i thing its the guy related to the "legendary" hidden sword that drop from the super special boss in drakar lake and you have to be solo in the map and have all the festive buffs). There is lot of thing in that festival the cantha storage guild talks about.
I'm a lover of cartography/geography, so one of the greatest mysteries for me you do not mention is the Sunken Islands and the land called Arid on the world map, and maybe the Forsaken Cliffs, I want to explore all these far flung places!!
I also was playing WvW today and started thinking about the land being Maguma wastes and wondering where this is/was in the real world before it was in the Mists? Was it in the Sage Lands, the Wilds? That portal above Brisban you can't pass through makes my eye twitch and I want to GO!! Janthir is big for me too, and maybe the Ash Legion Homeland?
As for other mysteries, I think from a storytelling perspective E has to be someone we know for the Who-done-it to really pay off, and Farin is the most likely candidate, but if it is him then it wasn't much of a mystery if we all guessed it, so pretty low for me.
I really want to see what the Gods are up to, what the DSD is all about, and a new Lich would be great and maybe provide some insight into the full extent of Aurene's new powers, so super excited for all of that too!
Hey WP, thanks for the great video!
Since you are so well read in the mysteries of GW 1 and GW 2, do you happen to know what the secret room behind the boss room of the Ascalon Catacombs dungeon is? It has been there since release of GW 2 and ever since i found it I was wondering why it is there. Is it a nod to GW 1, or an easteregg or does it have to do with the lore?
what's the music playing at 29:00 ?
The Wizards Tower - and the fighting of multiple groups. Does this not sound perfect for their new structure of re-using assets? We can do story / strikes / raids / fractals / open world DRMs out of the same content. All teams can take a bite out of this
The Largos is something i'm hoping we find out about some day.
the biggest mysterie in gw is, where did the customer support go to after last april? rumors go its outsourced to some phishing hackers with a heavy india accent, demanding for 500 euro's in giftcertificates, else people might go to 'jail'
I don't know why this one is always stuck in my head but the the Krytan royal locket from season 2 is something I thought would be used at some point. It's supposed to show who the true heir to the Krytan royal family is, I always wondered why introduce something like that and not do anything with it.
I've also been stuck on what Kito and the order of shadows were doing during the "Daybreak" episode, he promises support for saving Spearmarshal Zaiem but they never show up.
My final one I want to know more about is from the fractals, there are a lot of mysteries you can pull from there but the one that captues my attention the most is the deepstone fractal. What is The Voice?
Maybe a fractal/mystery tier list next?
Video topic? An explanation of the difference between vertical and horizontal leveling. Alot of videos are about "what to do after 80" and the phrase "horizontal leveling" is used quite often. Those videos contain information about all the activities one can do at max level, but some might ask the question of why. What's the point of these activities and how do they help my progression. I think you, of all people, could provide an indepth and comprehensive approach to that question.
At the end of season 3 Livia said she was going to settle down, "grow a little older." So the next time we meet Livia, I'm hoping we see her as an old woman, living peacefully in her final days. But not before bequeathing us the Scepter of Orr -- a tool that would help us against the next threat. :D
I don't know why, but the Mist Stranger is giving me vibes of Vael from GW1. For being a simple mercenary, Vael always struck me as someone who knew more about the PC and the world than he ought to. Plus Vael is an assassin, which could be on theme with the shadowy Mist Stranger. The theory that these two people are the same is probably a wild stab in the dark, but that's just what my gut is telling me. XD
Which mystery am I most curious about? Probably Bubbles and Mother.
I always had a theory without much support that the pyrite peninsula was related to Arachnia. Just because it's really close to Abadon's temple similar to how Dhuum's fall is seen in Orr. Thought it could be the same kind of thing where its it's a left over from the fall of a god. Plus there is a lot of god myths about golden spiders and even some about them being golden orb weavers,and pyrite is a fools gold.
The human homeworld I think was Xoteca since the six seemed to be from there and there was humans there.
Tengu are nice and all but the biggest mystery is: Which expansion will give us Skritt as a playable race? I envision a buff system where it get's stronger the more Skritt are with you within a certain radius.
Wasn't the secret of the trees and the seeds been kinda solved already though? Weren't the trees supposed to be Mordemoth's minion spawners with the pale tree and possibly other trees that were put in a similar situation, where nurture won over nature (with the pale tree absorbing the "laws" written on Ventari's tablet).
we still dont quite know what happened to the other possible seeds tho, its not said that the blighting trees in around the heart of thorn maps were any of these seeds, we just down have the nuance. It would be cool to see a conclusive kind of answer like "oh yeah theres another tree off on the north west coast of maguuma and its malycks, theyre doing fine since mordremoths gone" or something like it, it was never quite concluded he just went on to find more trees, a lot of ideas were probably cut from HoT, like the nightmare courts involvement, there even is a fourth possible lane leading towards mordrems tree that couldve been for the nightmare court off on the coastal side of dragons stand that was cut and never used that you can break into(i did it on accident while exploring the map first time, just fully walked by the invisible wall without knowing only realizing when the map art didnt clear up and show me where i was then i freaked out a little and just never walked to the end of the lane lol)
Would be cool if the inquest had a change of leader and make them in some capacity ally with us the commander, or even support the pact with high technology as we find a common enemy.
If I were to guess, my money would be that "Mother" is to current EDs, the way Glint was to Aurene, Vlast (and maybe other lost offsprings). I see this as a story of renewal, the youngs take the place of the elder, somewhat like a pheonix (in a way). Maybe that's why in the lore it is said that the EDs come in cycles. Mybe they are not living forever, but are being replaced with smbd new.
Or not to far away, maybe "Mother" is to EDs, like we, the PC are to Aurene, a parent-like figure that helped it develop at the beginning of it's way. Maybe it is a stretch, but would be cool to ever find this out.
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The biggest mystery is what happened to horses. We know they used to exist in Tyria, but they are no longer around. Also, it's been hinted that there is another member of the human royal line. Who is it?
I'm most interested about Malyck and Bloodstones. I hope those get ANET's focus.
I also really hope we get more underwater stuff because it's so unutilised. It's a shame if they just scrap it.
The cycle is reborn = Aurene shatters!