Plot Screen COMPARISON [Northwoods Whitetail Seed vs Frigid Forage Seed]
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2023
- In this video I bring you along an entire year's worth of growth on my Frigid Forage and Northwoods Whitetails plot screens. In one case, you have a screen that turned out shorter and denser, in the other, the screen turned out much taller and heavier stalks. If you are considering planting plot screen, this video is a must watch!
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Good job on video..
I liked how you showed all the results in one video instead of saying you'll show the rest later on different video. Good job again!
I appreciate it. Will be doing more of these this summer. Thanks for watching!
Well done Matt. We just found this video and are pleased with your results!!
We have some tips to get even better results if you want to reach out to us.
Thanks for the comparison and honesty.
Hey guys- appreciate the note. I was impressed how well they did in my sandy plot honestly. Yeah I’ll give you a call sometime. Thanks for reaching out
Great video. I’ve planted FF Plot screen a few years back it grew as advertised. One thing for sure is it does NOT stand up to winter weather for crap. I’m sitting on a bag of johns product waiting for the ground temperatures to rise. By the late season update in your video I can surely see the added strength of the thicker stalks.
Yeah I was really impressed with John’s blend as far as late season sturdiness. I did like how thick the FF stuff was. Each has its place. Thanks for sharing and good luck this growing season!
Cool, thx for sharing 👍👍
You bet- hope it helps folks. Take care
Nice comparison video. How about a comparison of the brassica blends? :)
Good idea I actually had plans for that this summer 👍
Very good
Thank you!
Fair and balanced like Fox News used to be.
Great video man. Thanks.
I appreciate the note- glad it helps some folks out there. Hope your fall is shaping up well 👍
Maybe add some egyptian wheat to the HD screen. That might give you the best of both worlds - thick and tall. In the spring. you might want to try this (I've done this for corn stalks). Brush hog it. Rake the residue into the food plot and burn it (check to see if burning permit required). Disc around the planned burn area to make sure you have a firebreak around your burn. I guess the burned residue puts some potash back in the soil when it is tilled.
Good ideas. I bush hogged mine then disced over it. Was eventually able to till it
Quite the difference.
Very compelling results from this comparison. Would you consider planting the Northwoods blend in a wider strip to get a little more screening effect?
Yes; I would. I planted about 10’ wide but if I did it again, I would do at least 20’ wide going forward. Great stuff but fewer stalks as you noticed. Thanks for watching!
Looks like a great screen! Getting ready to plant north woods hd screen this year. How wide did you plant your screen?
I planted mine about 15’ wide. As you can see in the video that’s not wide enough. I would do minimum 25’ wide or wider if possible
I’m in far northern Wisconsin and had similar results. Very important to not plant too early as well. Around Father’s Day in my neck of the woods. Can you continue planting this in the same spots year after year? I have been using the northwoods whitetails blend the last two seasons
Yeah some of mine I planted too early but most of it turned out ok. This is my first year planting it and I intend on planting in the same spots next year. I think when you hit it with 19-19-19 you are replacing the needed nutrients for it to grow well again year after year. Now I need to figure out how to get rid of the stuff in the spring… more to come!
@@northernforestwhitetail .. I smash it down and use my home built drag and it pulls the stalks right out of the ground if the soil is moist. Seems to work pretty good
@@deercamp3479 good idea. I have a bush hog mower I was going to mulch it with then disc over the Stumps
We recommend moving the screen after two years in a row
Hey great video, curious how wide you planted the plot screen, was it like 10 feet wide or wider?? thanks
I tried to get it 15’ wide that year. For the Northwoods whitetail blend, I’d go a little wider in the future to get a better screening effect. But the fridged forage was plenty wide
Did you have any trouble with weeds? I planted frigid forage and we didn't have much rain and the weeds kind of took over the whole strip. It still got up to 7' tall but was filled with 3' tall weeds too. Thanks for the great video just wondering if you used a pre emergent or not.
I did have weeds yes. I did not use a pre emergent. I am doing all my food plotting herbicide-free and it definitely presents it challenges. However; with that said, I did find that I knocked the weeds back pretty good on one part of my plot screen by planting my one section later in the spring. My first section I planted in late May. That area got taken over by weeds pretty bad (I made a video on it called “plot screen fail”). Then in a different area, I planted my Frigid Forage plot screen on June 10th. That area did much much better weed-wise. Plus the plot screen plants got just as tall, even when planted later. Hope that helps. Good luck this spring!
@@northernforestwhitetail I love that you are going the herbicide free route. This is the way I want to go (just started this past year with a kill plot) and it presents so many challenges. I want to do switchgrass, but it appears herbicide free is extremely difficult / not advised at all for it. (RC Big Rock)
@@ten5039 yeah it certainly has its challenges. I haven’t attempted switchgrass yet but due to the longer establishment period, I could see that being especially difficult. One idea to consider instead of switchgrass would be a combination of plot screen, plus small conifer trees. I’m planting young conifers now, then also supplementing with plot screen for the next 6-8 years or so. After that amount of time, I should be able to stop planting plot screen as the conifers will be tall enough. Just an idea. Good luck!
Would you plant the North woods blend a little heavier seed rate next time?
No I would do the same seed rate (as shown on the label) but what I would change is how wide my plot screen band is. I would do a minimum of 20’ wide stand of the Northwoods blend just to offer a better screen. Wider is better with that one.
If you go slightly heavier seed rate it will cut down the height a bit but when you’re talking 18-20 feet tall you can spare some height. I actually prefer it around 7-8 feet tall and thick as possible…I would also say planting before the last week of June in the NE is a bit early…
I'd rather have the thicker fridgid forage blend, 6-8' is plenty of screening and the thinner stalks are easier to brush hog and till under to decompose
After filming this video I wish I would have touched on that. The frigid forage blend definitely has its place. In fact I plan to plant more next year due to how thick and dense it is. Both blends offer different value depending on what you are looking for. For me, having a thick barrier or wall is very important. Thanks for sharing
Is the corn stalk size plant Egyptian wheat? If so do you think it would be better to go with straight Egyptian wheat?
No that’s just sorghum. I wouldn’t go straight Egyptian wheat.
@@northernforestwhitetail thanks for the tip.👍🏼love your videos.
@@LS-vs7bi you bet- and hey I appreciate the note! Good luck this fall- getting close now…
I just planted EW from fridged forge you have to spray for weeds? Thanks!!
Live in Minnesota also and just planted on June 2nd
No I didn’t spray. I use mechanical tillage for my weed control. Planting a little later when soil temps are 60 or above is key. That way the plot screen outpaces any weeds or grass
@@northernforestwhitetail thanks!!
Did you spray simizine as well?
No simizine- just mechanical tillage for weed control
Which brand did the deer seem to prefer to eat?
Neither- that was the idea behind plot screen too. You don’t want the deer eating it and spending time in it. I didn’t notice any real browse on either blend.
Looks like you need to cut back the amount of FF and add in some NWW and see how that works
I liked the height and strength of the plants with the Northwoods Whitetail blend, however, I don’t want to discount the fact that the Frigid Forage blend has appeal in how thick it was. I could see a time and place for both. I also would plant the Northwoods Whitetail screen thicker next time
You said it was a mix of sorghums. Their web site says don’t contain any??
Are you referring to the Northwoods Whitetail blend? Their website says they don’t use the sorghums that deer want to eat. The FF blend has a handful of different sorghums in it.