GRADING THE DOKKAN WIKI'S 2023 WWDC EXTREME CLASS UNIT TIER LIST! (DBZ: Dokkan Battle)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2023
- Video Title: GRADING THE DOKKAN WIKI'S 2023 WWDC EXTREME CLASS UNIT TIER LIST! (DBZ: Dokkan Battle)
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Never truly realized how big the gap is between the best villain units. Cell is top 5 extreme units but barley makes a top 17 units list
Don't wanna be a grammarnazi but "Barley" legit sounds like a DBZ character
@@MonkeyDTorikothey are all based of real world items 🫡
@@MonkeyDToriko actually true lol not even gonna edit it out lol
People will tell me extreme class is fine tho
Who tf puttin cell at top 17 wtf, that's just cap dude
Its criminal that Cheelai was forgotten as she is one of the best extreme class supports.
Women
It's easy to forget her cause she was never even a full-on villain. She was just made extreme class to help extreme class units
Cheelai is bulma level imo, just can't tank. Bulma had the 2 turn support while cheelai has the support + scouter.
@@FatMCSteveas they should
@@bananaballs3205Plus 3 heals in end turns
Bruh STR Cooler being 13 on extreme and STR LR Gogeta being 13 on super is absolutely criminal the gap in power is huge.
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Cell is very underrated for item users, whis turn 1 and you get your back blown out but survive then bam big daddy comes out
I really don't get the hate on using items. Like their there for a reason. Unless you're going for a no item run use them
@darkshadow9396 Don't know anyone who hates items. Even Truth says use items. When people get bullied on Twitter its when they say stuff like "this entrusted will mission wasn't even that hard, why Truth struggle so much?" And then they post a screenshot of them using items. Like bruh Truth was doing it without items thats why it was hard
@ssjyubel I feel those people are made up, I've never seen anyone say don't use items. Comments are usually full of people who only use items and think weak characters aren't that bad because they only ever see them tank when they have a whis active
@darkshadow9396 just an ego thing, but honestly the fact that you can get away with an itemless run with a good super class team just shows you the gap between extreme and super class characters.
@@ssjyubel its because those same people will complain about content being too easy.
I am so desperate for new Villains .... I would even take a LR Bio Broly
😭
Just for him to have half his passive restricted behind a hybrid saiyan enemy or corroded body and mind/movie bosses allies
Bio broly is crazy LMAO
Bio broly for Halloween
Desperate fam 😢
It’s unbelievable i still remember datruths tier list clear as day with the best turs and it was like top 5 had 1 super class and 4 extreme classes like teq androids, agl cell, str kid buu, agl ginyu…
WWC might've fumbled quite a few things but it'll always be a dub because Zamasu finally was able to get Cheelai on a useable team
150 is just not great tho...
@@titasjankunas.3685better than no leader skill....
@@titasjankunas.3685 Her whole kit is dodging and support, the stat boost doesn’t make a difference. She dies in one hit regardless
@@titasjankunas.3685there is literally no difference in her performance bar hp pool
BBB needs to be a category and we need a Broly and Shenron to lead to really get these villian units viable again.
Definitely about Omega, but Broly, don't agree.
Because somehow, someway, the devs were high enough or in the middle of an earthquake to not give Broly units Big Bad Bosses.
And then, give it to Broly, Cheelai and Lemo like wtf ?
DF u mean u don't broly deserve to be in big bad bosses
@@JACQUEZJOHNSON23 how does Broly not deserve it? Dude literally is a boss, big and bad, he's the definition of it.
@@joshuasmith4643 doesn't make sense to give broly a big bad bosses category when he doesn't even have the BBB link
@@aj3706 that's what I'm saying, give him both. Broly deserves it yo
I think this list is under the assumption that when a character additionals, it will 100% be a super attack. Cooler has done 4 additional normals on me, then gets turned inside out by boss’ basic attack. I think as far as consistency, LR Golden Frieza should be above him
Cooler couldnt shine Golden Friezas shoes full stop, his card is trash in comparison.
praying that next dokkanfest is a frieza or broly. and i really hope we get a villian with a standby with 70% defense buff to allies as an opposite to the 8th years 70% attack buff in standby
i’m praying not broly as he’s more of a super class buff to be honest he doesn’t fit with villains really other than big bad bosses and fierce battle
@@tonyonafriday think of the teq broly eza
@@shadowthehedgehog5319 who also wouldn't work well with other villains unless best case scenario; they give him insane support abilities lol
@@gabeitches87 well yeah. i just want a new broly because he hasn't gotten a card with new time animations. but thats just another hope outside of massive villian help
Lord slug
And people question why there was outrage for THREE super class LR releases and only ONE for this WWC
I keep sayin when dokkan gives us the blue zone these villains will be amazing lol
I know that when they drop the Survey, one of the things I'm putting on there is the "Its time for a same name link update." But out of all the units in the list. I think the only EZA Extreme class wise I'm looking forward to now is the LR Broly Cheelai Lemo unit. Which now means they will probably fumble that unit and I will be sadge
To be fair, it's pretty much impossible for them to fumble that unit, but i'll definitely be sad if they dont increase their stats a lot at least
me when rivejix tells a multi billion dollar corporation it’s time for an update(they will definitely listen): 😱😱🤯😳
@@dabonethugsoon as dokkan igrone ppl spam change zamasu name dokkan give them carnival future Gohan basically saying a big fuck to the fans 😂
@@dabonethug ain't no harm in trying. They already crushed the celebration for me after eza int goku whack.
Plus I'm sure I'm not gonna be the only one saying things on the survey 😌
@@dabonethug? They have listened to surverys plenty of times
Truth: 20:33 "After that, you're falling off."
Me: *Falls out of my bed*
Big fan truth keep it up loving the vids
I honestly think omatsu has agenda against villains they have never been as this down bad than in this year my boi omega got ruined being one of the most memorable villains in the db universe for many poeple as dude was top dog for years and this is how he gets treated
I mean they are disrespecting every villain in existence so i dont think they care anymore
And to make shit even worse THEY SHAFTED HIM THE SAME WAY LR SUPER 17 WAS how you say well here
Lr super 17 dropped and than nullifitction mechanic get introduced month later
Lr omega dropped and than domain mechanic get introduced 2 month later
Literally the same shit all over again just WHYYY WHYYY WHYYYY
@@alaaaguil3076makes me wonder why do i even summon on villains anymore
db fans don't give a damn about omega lmao he was boring
@@alaaaguil3076love the shit gt in the mud it make my day Happyier
You know what is funny, how when paikuhan and janemba came out people werent super high on them, theyve aged like a fine wine
Having completed the 100 super unit ranking, let's check villains!
All 4 useable of them
I beat the time travelers mission on Fusion Zamasu with Int Cell on the team and after I got widdled down by the first phase, I transformed and the dude literally did 40% of the second phases health in one turn, winning me the fight first try (Obviously, this isn't always going to be the case with Int Cell, but if you get that transformation quickly, you literally win these fights).
This is a good time to try out LR Dr wheelo, I think he's actually half decent for stuff like vegito
No new LR Goku Black, a BAD INT Goku Black EZA, no LR Kid Buu, a mid LR Omega, NO DBS Full Power Broly card, NO useable Fat Buu card, NO useable Raditz card, NO Cell Max card, NO useable pure-form Baby, all Cell units are mid, and a severe lack of DBZ Broly, or Broly in general. And that's to say nothing for the fact that the SDBHeroes villains are A: Only once a year, and B: "Okay" at best.
No doubt these will trickle in over time, but....please, can we get on with it? If I had a dollar for every good Extreme unit in the game, I could MAYBE buy a sandwich.
Mannnnn this list is Da Truth
Wanted to come up with a funny contrast but came empty
AMBUSSIN AHHHH AMBUTUBLOW!!!!!
Dt
And this right here is why im so livid for summoning on the LR Zamasu banner. He's aweomse in a vacuum but they fumbled so hard this celebration with supporting him, so much so he doesnt even have a full viable team. Going forward i will never summon for an extreme unit again, its just not worth it.
Honestly what made me realize the shittyness called extreme teams, is that there are only 2 maybe 3 semi-consistent villian teams being Zamasu's team cooler's team and maybe ginyu force
I’d have Majin Vegeta a bit higher too. I’m not sure if his criticisms on the Dokkan Wiki have to do with performance on Extreme teams, but he did well on a few of the recent red zones with Vegeta & Trunks.
4:31 its always funny to me when people realize that after WWDC 2022 villains were never good again for 7 months until junior and then another 4 months for fusion zamasu in which every extreme unit has aged out besides those last two.
Yo you got it, 20 year old here, kinda impressed you guessed the age of your audience that well
Truth make a Super Class Tur tier list and Extreme Class Tur tier list that includes EZA Turs, the difference between them are going to be insane😂
So sad how many villain Ezas have been fumbled, at the point where there are almost none left to Eza yet nothing of value is found down there, and most of the current released villains suck too.
You should react to the dokkan wiki category specific tier list. Specifically the entrusted will list.
1:44 that's the point, it's easier to get out because you're actually making it to the point where it can be used opposed to stinky vegito
After truth cursed LR INT Teen Gohan you should *Never* imply or say dokkan "cannot fumble this unit" Angel golden freiza's eza (phy) with stats alone won't cut it. We will not repeat the same mistake, dokkan devs don't play the game saying that is asking for the unit to be a fraud ((futureproofed)
Truth hit the “back in my day “ speech 😂
Try out phy vegito on the zamasu fight, he's rlly good there! Back to the top 10 ezas
If we can do a another TIER LIST VIDEO
we need the 2nd Ost Tier List !
Literally ever single character on this list: *Great hard hitter, great tank*
Imagine if they had a Shadow Dragon themed event. DF Syn with 2 different duel units with the other shadow dragons like how they did Ginyu. Then you could run all of the Shadow Dragons together. That would be sweet! . . . .
Thanks for the video! This was sad to watch 😢
Lr final form Coola is an “Excellent tank” ?
I guess we don’t have the same Coola bruh
Dokkan should make a Halloween campaign for villains with several good EZA.
Look at all these villain buffs 😮💨
Needs work... 💀
They gotta stop giving us all these villains buffs 😤
Int fused Zamasu works fine in the super difficult events for me
Villains where at their prime with AGL Ginyu because of the F2P EZAs
Do a video with super buu vs fusion zamasu
Criminal that cheelai is not even on the list.
Can you review the Wiki's Powerful Comeback tier list next?
1:28 the difference with zamasu is ik he’s not gotta clapped like r Kelly before his active skill I deadass needed dupes for agl goku and vegeta to be good 25 additional 10 dodge cooks like crazi
Just watched the other list hope this one has better picks
Such a good idea for a video 😂
9th anni super gogeta and super vegito headliners with ezas for a load of turs and lrs would actually help villains alot
Teq gogeta and phys janemba eza
Str vegito and phys buuhan eza
Agl Paikuhan and teq janemba eza
Teq vegeta ssj2 and int goku ssj2 angel eza
Part 2 carnival lrs for fat transforming janemba and base buuhan
This is making me excited for the end of year top 10 worst releases/fumbles he does
A fumbled release tier list would go insane
Janemba did well for me and continues to do well but he does have to build up a bit and be lucky but the games rng anyway lmao
FROST NUMBER ONE🗣🗣🔥🔥💯💯
am i missing something or is eza tur golden frieza just not on the list? is it because he can't be ran in some events?
20:09 Can't believe they put GOD so down below
After seeing where LR Orange Piccolo was ranked in the last video by Dokkan Wiki, I am really annoyed lol. 😠
Its crazy that extreme teq us still the worst , for me who didnt get the new zamasu , the only decent units is the lr black and zamasu
Just like súper trunks, PHY Turles is never off fraud watch
The video really hurts to see fr💙🙏🏻😭 and it’s not cause of the placements but how villains should NOT be getting fumbled like that and here we are and only like 3 of them are the best to use sadly
We are in need of great villains. New Frieza from Namek should be needed or from the Tournament of Power, LR Hit as a villain, LR Hakai Toppo, LR Beerus from the movie, LR Kid Buu, LR Fat Buu, LR Baby, LR Cell from the Super movie, new LR OG Broly and the other LR Broly, LR Vegeta.
If they really want to make the zamasu team cracked, they should give int LR rose "Goku black" allies on the team 40% DMG reduction. This would make int Goku black eza not that much of a fraud and it'll make teq LR Goku black and zamasu good. But this won't happen anyways 🤷
Umm. Hello!? Where is golden frieza? Not the lr one,the old one? 90% damage reduction is A LOT and can tank basicly anything
This ranking should be far better than the super class one 😂
what about cheelai and my boi EZA agl golden frieza?
Villains need way more love than heroes right now and they need to be better than good.
Bruh underrating Cell. Can't talk about how much damage Zamasu does and then act like it's difficult to get Cell to transform. It's not. Even in base he's not a zero
I feel like he'll always be relevant in some way (mainly for people with weaker boxes) just because he full heals and can do it whenever, and then after that he whips his dick out with killer attack stats while rainbow orb changing.
I know SBR/ESBR is not really difficult at all anymore, but if they were to make an even harder version of ESBR, you could probably no item all the stages that Cell can be ran in just because you'd be taking a bunch of damage Turn 1 and then full heal Turn 2, and then keep repeating it for the other two fights until you win lol
Agl golden frieza being that low is actually crazy
9th anni will be baby vegeta and black goku this way they can keep the goku&vegeta theme while giving us actually helpful characters trust🤞
How does nearly everybody in A tier get the “great tank” pro but eza int black gets “mediocre tank” like he sucks defensively but not str frieza bad
It's criminal to have Amond and Rasin at A.
When truth started listing viewers probable ages I’m sitting here like damn I’m 25😭
This just shows how badly Extreme units needs help, watching them fumble Int Goku Black really hurts my heart
Man even if you're 17, 18, 19 man omega was THE FINAL VILLIAN of ALLLLLL of db for upwards of 20 god damn years. You KNOW by default that omega was the big daddy and that his release HURRTS
Broly cheelai and lemo should be in the top 10 alongside int cheelai
im 21 but i will always see ss4 and omega as peak fr
At this point, every video about Extreme Class in general is just a sad video
If Omega was extreme class for his damage reduction he is top 5 unit in the game and better than Zamasu in my opinion. But even with it as GT Bosses he is so strong he makes the team competitive in the hardest fights in the game which says something about his performance
I know it’s a know fact but there is a canyon between villains and super class units😢
Did you say “lamberjack”? What’s that mean?
truth no more waiting. its time for heroes vs dismal future red zone
6:12
I literally had tear in eye while reasing that like whyyy man why restricting him to gt bosses when tey literally killed the dick of every gt bosses unit like whyyy and it get ever worse when you realise that OMEGA COULD HAVE DOMAIN MECHANIC LIKE WHYYYYY MAN WHYYY
Villains are so dead except for LR zamasus team, I love villains, but the get sent to hell when they get touched
Watching the Extreme Class version of the tier list was honestly just depressing 😢
que pro
Such a shame they wasted a villain buff for future gohan. Love him but dont think it was his time. And made eza Goku Black shit. Judging from the upcoming characters for an EZA, were going towards TOP and buu saga at some point, gotta love those villains in TOP 😂
can't wait to get those wolf mfs, anilaza or whatever that big ass discount janemba's name was, and another angel frieza 🔥💯
Yea steroid form Basel 😄
Hot take metal cooler aged better than all the other lrs from last years wwc
All of them got crept pretty hard. Metal cooler is only usable because he can afford to die once. He brings nothing else to the table in hard RZ fights
@@topiastuomisto revive is basically one of the strongest abilities. Moreover he heals and in the new hardest fight he has a 70% chance to nullify the hardest hitting boss.
He is actually better than ever.
@@user-qt6vd8ry1p right I forgot the nullify... Doesnt he take like 500k a normal though? I think you need some pretty insane rng to not lose his revive before phase 2 zamasu
@@topiastuomisto he doesn’t he takes like 100k+ pre build up (mine is only 69%) from int zamasu aoe normals. He can comfortably tank all the normals once fully build up and he will also not die to supers from int mz. Phy mz normals before the sa is around 700k damage which he also can tank fine post super. He isn’t really as bad as people making him out to be.
SUPER BUU AND OMEGA ARE THE BEST RELEASES OF THE YEAR LESSSSS GOOOOO... 😢😢😢😢
So we have piccolo and zamasu(teq fused and agl) and then the rest suck
Jfc villains are so terrible 😭. It's so sad because if villains always got the Ginyu Force or Cooler treatment, they be in a much better spot, but unfortunately Dokkan seems to enjoy going out of the their way in making them restrictive or just ass. It's very rare we get busted villains.
At this point we gotta stop defending Future gohan, wtf we're they thinking not releasing a villain
Its extreme class. It's bound to get shafted
LR Str Final Form Cooler is way too high on that List. That Guy is just pure RNG and mostly you lose runs because of him.
He is the typical one Ultra Super ->normal ->normal ->normal ->normal attack, then gets one shotted.
I would put him next to LR PHY Metal Cooler.
Not single Brolly unit in top 10 shows how Dokkan is treating Extreme units
I'm suprised they didn't event put cheelai on the list likw wth
bro according to the wiki anyone with 400k defense is "a great tank"
on the topic of VB and CMZ's Actives having the same conditions, the problem isnt conditions, its the teams, VB's team can survive pretty much every normal in the game, outside of Majunior and CMZ themselves, CMZ's Team takes DRASTIC dmg from normals, even agl zamasu on his first turn takes quite a bit from even INT MZ's AoE Normal, you are more likely to hit the 70% Condition due to These problems, Whereas AGL VB's team can virtually only take damage from an AoE normal or a Super.
It's definitely the conditions
@@JACQUEZJOHNSON23 the conditions are fine, the problem is the team
@@diabolicespurr like I said the condition is bad like truth said
@@JACQUEZJOHNSON23 ignoring the fact that the reason the condition "sucks" is because the team's Best units dont take dmg from normals, Whereas CMZ's best units take dmg from normals on their first couple turns
@@diabolicespurr the condition bad simple take it how it is I said what i said
Str super 17 isn’t that bad. They’re tripping. Of course they’re bad against Zamasu, they wanna fight super enemies when there aren’t that many. If they fight super enemies they’re gonna have half chance of dodge every turn if you give ‘em AA and then super 17 is actually eating hits too once he’s out there, turn 7 just takes too long so I don’t bring ‘em in any newer events
It wouldn't bee an problem, but there are almost no fights against super class that matters aside of the ones we just got, so ranking them as that condition being garbage matters in this context to determine they have been fumbled
@@anstornerI get your point but they body super class enemies it’s better than “gokus family” or being forced to ran on a horrid team like omega. They’re not even one of the 5 biggest fumbles this year lol
As much as I like slandering the unit, they're solid, just badly designed especially for a villain unit
@@itapproaches3484 they should of just had guard chance stacking instead of dodge cuz they get shredded by normals in these new events 💀 I love them tho they’re the first tur I summoned for (I’m lowkey new)
@@coopdothemost yeah, they're usable but that isn't enough when they will just keep getting powercrept, and holy moly what were they thinking with super 17 needing to be hit as much as he does?
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Free my girl Kale, she ain't do nothin wrong 🙏