A year later and there's still the LR Loserhan talk. He's only talked about because it's Gohan, if Piccolo and Gohan's kit was swapped no one would even whisper about Piccolo
@@mungolius2262he’s not that bad but the absolute dicksuck vs the absolute hate creates a paradox of a character he’s admittedly just good he’s a good LR you say he sells but just about any character can sell you I do hate the talk tho it’s annoying
At this point, LR Ultimate Gohan stans gotta have a humiliation kink or something... they like to get shamed. You cannot convinced me that these people actually think he's top 5
@@ssjyubelHe’s good in one stage in dismal future redzone, the normal redzone zamasu stage gets to second phase before he builds up and he gets smacked by normals. And the goku black redzone makes him look like a screaming toddler
"AGL SS4 Vegito isn't a top 5 TUR" I've beaten every single red zone stage with no items using a full DB Heroes team with double Limit Breaker Vegito leads. And if his team is the weakness, that only helps his case for being top 5 because of his absurd carry potential.
All this thread showed was the biggest Super Heroes fanboy in Dokkan history…likely loved DBS more than the average person 🤣 Hey UI Goku and Vegito Blue are cool, but Majin Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan, Goku going Super Saiyan for the first time? DBS floored by DBZ. New Dragonball fans are gross…
@@Nakina_DokkanOne thing with the hero’s team is that you definitely need at least most of the characters rainbowed or with lots of dupes in order to actually have some go to fight the bosses
Gohan doesn't struggle for ki: "gets 1ki per orb and support from orange" Gt duo struggles for ki: "gets TWO.... I repeat, TWO ki per orb" I dont wanna here this blasphemy
1 bad hit and the team is gone what are you on about, plenty of units there get insta popped by a super. Earth Bred Fighters and Super Heroes are the easiest, not only do they have higher total damage they have multiple safety tools and multiple Vegito level units on the team. Also because their team is full of TURs with low stats they dont have nearly the same amount of HP as other top tier teams.
My theory is since everyone clowned and hated on "Beast" Gohan for no transformation some people went against the crowd and dickrode him and now just use him to start arguments
24:36 Whenever one of these bozos gets on twitter and starts talking about modern units being more dominant than STR Gogeta I tune out, because they clearly were not playing back in Y1 pre Super Vegito You did not have an account back in the day if you did not have STR Gogeta, straight up, You were better off resetting during the Anniversary and the banner he came back on because he straight up owned the game. Gogeta gapped everyone else in ways that Orange Piccolo can only *dream* of, let’s be real.
Even 4 months ago, Orange Piccolo wasnt a Must. You could clear everything w Futur/Super Heroes/Earth-Bred. He could get caught too. Heck he can even now w the arguably most broken team ever
I like how he basically mentions zamasu isnt the only fight ppl should rate units but proceeds to have every say eza future gohan, gt duo, and etc suck cuz of zamasu without mentioning the other fights he listed lmfao
8:42, Truth this opinion is 100% because you are a whale and I don’t even say this to be rude. Chain battle for normal players that do not have the new Dokkan fest rainbowed and their ssr rainbowed along with a friends list that has these same characters is hell. I don’t know if other casual players feel the same way as I do, but besides the skill orbs it just feels like a wasted grind. Thank god they removed it
I think that Gohan is a character that has been lobed by many since DBZ, and now he has a new form which is pretty cool and people lose their minds if you touch their character. I love Orange Piccolo but i wasn't crying on Twitter when he was released on Legends and wasn't that good, also i understand his flaws and just use hin anyway because i love him
38:56 I mean the teq androids let me cheese a turn on lvl10 of the lr androids eza stage, but do you know who killed the boss quick enough for that to matter? ssj4lb Vegito.
I would agree with him on the Phy SSJ3 Rose take if he had BBB. When he transforms he is amazing but if he had BBB he actually would have been a monster.
Bros second take was "Red Zone Zamasu isnt the only fight that matters" then goes on about how units are bad because theyre not great in that option. Like bro listen to yourself
All these “hot take” dokkan tweeters all just try to act different and make stuff up to get interactions and quote tweets. Vector was trying to say gamma 1 is garbage and useless now and that beerus is the best tur like come on bro you are just baiting
There really isn’t much else to a hot take than that. It’s an opinion that is disagreeable by many and it’s meant to garner lots of attention whether it’s bait or not.
I actually despise Ultimate Gohan the more people talk about him. He has got to be the most overrated character. I still remember Alan talking about this character all the time for MONTHS ON TWITTER. HE PROBABLY STILL IS OBSESSED WITH HIM
People just trash heroes because most players probably have them low dupe, and most of them suck at 55% (except for LBSSJ4 Vegito). I think at 100% though Vegito and the heroes team is very strong.
15:48 shit take, damage dealing units are not overrated and the sooner people realize this the better. What makes LB ssj4 vegito a god? I'd say his ability to melt any stage you take him on, doing up to 80 mil plus with crits. Killing your enemy before they can kill you is not overrated and has always been a legitimate strat in dokkan- until the og redzones came around- and 98-99% of all units were make completely useless. Now its a legitimate strat again because of units like lbssj4 vegito, ssj trio, the buu and gt duo, O.P. and others.
@@alaaaguil3076Doesn't really matter if he doesn't do enough damage to end the fight before turn 6 lol. Defense glazers are delusional. Offense is just as important.
Fights are based around the amount of items you can bring, therefore no item runs are not doing what the developers intended you to do, making every single no item run a cheated/skipped run, the only exceptions being when the developers want to challenge you with missions into not using items (or simply stripping you from items all together like in Extreme Z Battles), meaning that the boss has been checked and confirmed to also be playable without items.
If that was the case then no item runs should be impossible since they weren’t tested to be completed without items. No item runs show how good a character is individually
Besides, as powercreep is a natural thing in this game, every stage will become no-itemable after a while. Doesn’t mean they designed it to be that way. Personally I’m of the opinion that NIRs are a good test of unit quality, but you’d be dead wrong if you thought these fights were actually designed around not using items
i've found gamma 1's defensive ability not up to par an advantage in some situations. in the goku black/zamasu fight, hp ends up at around 10% when gamma 1 gets super'ed and int lr cell is waiting next rotation on 21's team. sure it takes a lot of rng for that specific situation, but it's the most consistant i've ever been with his transformation condition.
38:18 - 38:24 This is literally 90% of Dokkan's "hot takes," awful tier lists, etc., whether it comes from "infamous" individuals or random members. I'm surprised more people aren't aware of this. *Most* of these people don't believe what they're saying, they just enjoy starting drama and arguments because they're addicted to negativity.
The game isn’t designed around no item runs, no item runs ain’t important, using items is how the game is meant to be played, runs aren’t negated because you use items
35:40 brother you shouldnt have to make an argument for a character being good if youre saying theyre top 5 LMAO. You dont have to explain why op, bulma or gt duo are good its just obvious. Yeast gohan is top 20 lr, top 40 overall yikes
Ive cleared almost every hard stage on global with the heroes team because of limit breaker vegito. The team isn't the strongest but it still puts in work.
We don't have Omega yet on Global but I would call the SSJ LR and their team the best for fusion zamasu, they kill the boss in 3 or 4 turns no item it's insane. When you go in with 800k hp plus a revive and x2 the strongest active skill turn in the game, it's a challenge to even lose. I do factor in using the new support memory ofc, because those are not items.
I love ultimate Gohan, he’s super fun and a lot of the time he’s works pretty well, HOWEVER, u don’t need to cope for your favorite character, I like him, but he has flaws out the wazoo 😭
We need to stop evaluating units based on "best TUR" "best LR" "best LR EZA" "best DFE" and etc. There's no real reason to do this. The rarity of a unit doesn't make them notably different from units in other rarities. Usually, units within the same category will be closer together in power level, but especially recently, this hasn't been the case. It's much more helpful to just rank units in general. The LR PHY Androids and INT Rose may be the best 2 yellow coin LR EZAs, but that doesn't really tell me anything about how good they are overall, with the Androids being a lower top 10 contender, Rose being in the 15 - 20 range, and everyone below them probably being found at 30+. There's a huge disparity between them that you can't show on their ranking. Doing it this way just generally makes it more confusing to follow people's opinions. Since LR is the highest rarity, most of the best units in the game are LRs, obviously. But then the top LRs list becomes misleading, because while the start of the list may be referenced as a "best of ALL units list", the point where the best TURs make their interjection is unclear. And if someone is trying to build a team or decide who to summon for, the tier lists being split doesn't actually help them compare the choices they have available.
Heroes units strongly relies on dupes to be good, it's a well known fact. and agl ssj4 Vegito with 200k def and 60% dr can't eat SA before attacking. That's why your at rainbow can and perform quite differently. Same goes with the 8th anni duos, it's that simple.
I'd recommend recording a video of "ranking every character in dokkan until we get to beast gohan" but I don't think I'll have spare 2 hours to watch it.
19:22 dealing with those ideas won’t necessarily change those ideas tho this video is not gonna magically change the perception of anyone watching it lol, people are still gonna have the same perception they always had because some people do it to SPITE others even if they don’t necessarily believe it they’ll spout what they want to spout online because they know it gets a view from you or someone, and hot takes is what fuels entertainment. At the end of the day people are still gonna hate FZ and people are still gonna suck off OP and it’s how it goes.
Possibly a hot take: Full dodge on picc jr is viable and actually really good for tedzone fights I wanna try this out but i ain’t spending dragon stones to change his HiPo
I have Piccolo Jr on full Dodge/additional build and from my test runs and all the red zones that I've completed with this unit, I can definitely say full dodge is the way to go on this character he is just outstanding and amazing and I don't understand why some people are downplaying him to be honest I think he's number 1 until hirudegarn has an actual team that he can be ran on
his takes almost feel like he doesn't play the game and just plays vicariously through datruth's videos. it feels like he was trying to spite datruth but also have original takes at the same time lmfao
18:00. This is literally true tho they're constantly taking supers for 400k+ turn 1 unless they quad super. They're an amazing unit but they're not very good turn 1 and thats simply a fact
LB ssj4 Vegito kit alone is insane but the team that you have to run him on is very restrictive and also some of these units can get one shot in these events,if fusion zamasu supers a unit that didn't attack yet and they do not dodge they will instantly die, I've done it a few times in that fight also don't forget ssj3 rosé helps out alot too that hp recovery is a blessing to have when he transforms into full power, but ssj4 physical vegito he can get easily one shot if he doesn't attack before fusion Zamasu supers. Imo LB vegito is number 1 Tur
Hot take: dodge can hurt units who need to get hit and can costs you a win. There are units like 23 goku who can get away with it but someone like FPSSJ4 cant. Not gettig tbose 5 hits quick enough can kill you 💀 which is why i do dodge very situationally. Lr blue duo/vegito i run dodge additinal it helps, ssj3ku dodge additinal helps, 23 goku dodge additionals, ftp dodge, phy andriods dodge additional, fp vegito dodge additinal. But buu duo additional crit (dodge would help but i do crit for SB additional for def build up i get to 1.6 mil def at turn), Vegito blue teq additional crit, Fuzed Zamasu Crit additional, orange piccolo crit additional, gt duo additional crit (needs 4 hits to get revive i need that early).
Shitting on SSJ Goku and Vegeta and Trunks, GT duo literally killed all my suspension of doubt, Pol4rity is just glazing over every unit that has Gohan in it.
I bet his top LR was Ribrihane you don’t have to hide it 😏 But nah Picollo Jr. was the best villain of the year and personally my fav design unit, that’s how you make a villain. Overrated??? What villain is better? The STR 17s?????? Private server players think diff than us man, can’t wait for that shit to banned
1 the gt duo give you full heal plus damage on enemy which is better than gohan and piccolo 2 it is literally 99% chance to be under 50% against fused zamasu most of the time
@@alaaaguil3076 he said they did everything better, their condition is much worse he was glazing. And if you are a whale it is not easy to get to below 50% especially with no scouter and the leader of the team nullifies the super. 70% is actually easy, i mostly get to 60% HP
@@honeymain4552 The GT Duo gives you the choice to revive when you need to while GP oftentimes forces you to revive when you may not want to, automatically losing all defensive capabilities when they fall under 70%. 70% is high enough to where you may not want to revive. But with GP, you don't get a choice. However, with the GT Duo, you do since it's an active skill, allowing you to almost always use it when needed. I haven't used them for myself so I can't accurately claim which is better, but I think this is the reasoning Truth is going for.
1:54 Which is so odd. I'm like this close to say that Gohan sucks on super heroes. Int Pan is dodge or die, and when you get his full ki and he absolutely sells it makes my blood boil. He gets ki easier and stats easier earth bred fighters. Lastly using piccolo's giant from in defense of Gohan can also be a critique in of itself. He's by that logic very unflexable/unrunnable on other categories.
Ngl I stopped taking him seriously and giving the benefit of the doubts after the gt duo & gohan and piccolo comparison. Gohan and piccolo are an obvious physically visible nerfed version of the gt duo.
This is hilarious. I saw his tweet “I will get Truth to follow me one day”
Truth’s title: THE MOST DOGSHIT THREAD ON TWITTER
At this point I’m sure he’s writing this stuff just to fuck with DaTruth
lmao dream on
Honestly, that would be an honor for me, having truth dedicate a 45 minute video is WAAAAAY cooler than just getting a follow 😭
A year later and there's still the LR Loserhan talk. He's only talked about because it's Gohan, if Piccolo and Gohan's kit was swapped no one would even whisper about Piccolo
EXACTLY YOURE 10000000% CORRECT
You are on the money. Using LR Fraudhan is like the dokkan version of the phrase "Don't meet your heroes."
@@mungolius2262he’s not that bad but the absolute dicksuck vs the absolute hate creates a paradox of a character he’s admittedly just good he’s a good LR you say he sells but just about any character can sell you I do hate the talk tho it’s annoying
If he had more defense he'd be soooo goood
DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER, I love Gohan, but at some point u have to admit he’s decent at best
Bro asked for a truth follow and instead got a whole video of him getting blasted😭
I’m ready for a hot take that calls lb vegito overrated. I can practically smell it
Edit: woah this Justin guy really hates heroes units
4:40 if you want to see
Andddd ur spot on😭
He had to be talking about 55% vegito😂
Lmfao
Literally on the start of the video 😂😂😂
At this point, LR Ultimate Gohan stans gotta have a humiliation kink or something... they like to get shamed.
You cannot convinced me that these people actually think he's top 5
I take him over orange piccolo any day and night. I simply have a huge hate boner for that green useless piece of crap.
@@stryperwolf1723well you need to go get your eyes checked my boy 😂
@@masterofmasters7936 nah, thats just my experience with that green fker.
He’s one of my favorite units, but not because he has a good kit that’s for sure
@@ssjyubelHe’s good in one stage in dismal future redzone, the normal redzone zamasu stage gets to second phase before he builds up and he gets smacked by normals. And the goku black redzone makes him look like a screaming toddler
"AGL SS4 Vegito isn't a top 5 TUR"
I've beaten every single red zone stage with no items using a full DB Heroes team with double Limit Breaker Vegito leads. And if his team is the weakness, that only helps his case for being top 5 because of his absurd carry potential.
That guy said 8th anniversary struggles for ki but gohan doesn’t lol
50 MINUTES OF NONSTOP HORRENDOUS TAKES 🔥🔥🔥
He had some fine ones tho it was like 70% bad 30% good
All this thread showed was the biggest Super Heroes fanboy in Dokkan history…likely loved DBS more than the average person 🤣
Hey UI Goku and Vegito Blue are cool, but Majin Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan, Goku going Super Saiyan for the first time? DBS floored by DBZ. New Dragonball fans are gross…
THESE TAKES ARE FIRE🔥🔥🔥 THEY BURN THEMSELVES DOWN
Thank you truth for giving me videos to watch while im slaving away at world tournament 🗣🔥❗
bro paid to comment
@@starboy5653nah he just wants to support a great ytber nothing wrong with that kid
@@FrostByte_06you can support for free by watching. Truth purposefully makes his video longer just to get over 10 for more money. No need to glaze
Okay🗣🔥❗️
So many people are still stuck in the mentality that heroes units suck when we literally got the most solid heroes units ever this year
Solid is a heavy understatement.
@@Nakina_Dokkanthey meh
@@ultraboost489 that same Heroes team can no item all stages of the game.
@@Nakina_DokkanOne thing with the hero’s team is that you definitely need at least most of the characters rainbowed or with lots of dupes in order to actually have some go to fight the bosses
@@DCDokkan That isn't hard due to the banners being GSSR.
The reason he said using lr ultimate gohan on the team you did was disingenuous was because you didn’t bring orange piccolo to mask his flaws lmao.
Gohan doesn't struggle for ki: "gets 1ki per orb and support from orange"
Gt duo struggles for ki: "gets TWO.... I repeat, TWO ki per orb"
I dont wanna here this blasphemy
The heroes team downplay is crazy. It's literally the easiest team to no item fusion Zamasu with.
Exactly. These doubters will be in shambles soon, do not worry
Heroes is juiced
1 bad hit and the team is gone what are you on about, plenty of units there get insta popped by a super.
Earth Bred Fighters and Super Heroes are the easiest, not only do they have higher total damage they have multiple safety tools and multiple Vegito level units on the team.
Also because their team is full of TURs with low stats they dont have nearly the same amount of HP as other top tier teams.
What are you smoking? The heroes team get destroyed against fusion Zamasu
@@WTFJhinZhaothis is factually false.
My theory is since everyone clowned and hated on "Beast" Gohan for no transformation some people went against the crowd and dickrode him and now just use him to start arguments
24:36 Whenever one of these bozos gets on twitter and starts talking about modern units being more dominant than STR Gogeta I tune out, because they clearly were not playing back in Y1 pre Super Vegito
You did not have an account back in the day if you did not have STR Gogeta, straight up, You were better off resetting during the Anniversary and the banner he came back on because he straight up owned the game. Gogeta gapped everyone else in ways that Orange Piccolo can only *dream* of, let’s be real.
Your account was literally worthless without him.
Even 4 months ago, Orange Piccolo wasnt a Must. You could clear everything w Futur/Super Heroes/Earth-Bred. He could get caught too. Heck he can even now w the arguably most broken team ever
"Ranking every LR in the game until we get to Ultimate Gohan" when?
Wouldn’t be that long
Vid wouldnt be thaaat long
@@kbthegoatw he makes top 10 videos. Gohan isn't in the top 10. It would be longer than his other ranking videos.
@@mohamadou4695 actually think
@@idontcare789 yeah no shit it would be longer, just not as long as you think it would be
Vector and Alan got a new contender to beat for worst takes 🔥🔥🔥
Alan and Vector were dodgy, now we have a new guy on the block.
Okay🔥🔥🔥
I like how he basically mentions zamasu isnt the only fight ppl should rate units but proceeds to have every say eza future gohan, gt duo, and etc suck cuz of zamasu without mentioning the other fights he listed lmfao
We officially need a "I'm ranking every unit until we get to Phy Beast Gohan" stream
it’d definitely be a way shorter video
kinda crazy that truth says that some dokkan people go on agendas when he's constantly pushing dodge lol
8:42, Truth this opinion is 100% because you are a whale and I don’t even say this to be rude. Chain battle for normal players that do not have the new Dokkan fest rainbowed and their ssr rainbowed along with a friends list that has these same characters is hell. I don’t know if other casual players feel the same way as I do, but besides the skill orbs it just feels like a wasted grind. Thank god they removed it
I think that Gohan is a character that has been lobed by many since DBZ, and now he has a new form which is pretty cool and people lose their minds if you touch their character. I love Orange Piccolo but i wasn't crying on Twitter when he was released on Legends and wasn't that good, also i understand his flaws and just use hin anyway because i love him
based OP enjoyer
38:56
I mean the teq androids let me cheese a turn on lvl10 of the lr androids eza stage, but do you know who killed the boss quick enough for that to matter? ssj4lb Vegito.
30:01 "I hope we are getting to the end hear man"
*still 20 minutes left on the video.
Here*
I would agree with him on the Phy SSJ3 Rose take if he had BBB. When he transforms he is amazing but if he had BBB he actually would have been a monster.
Yeah the way Dokkan handles BBB link is truly baffling lol.
It sucks, cause it reminds me that Black wasn't the main villain of that little arc 😭
agree in what way? thats he better than lb vegito? if he had bbb hes still not better than lb vegito its not even close
@@ebby3215 lets relax on the slurping
huh? its literally just facts @@yamete1729
Bros second take was "Red Zone Zamasu isnt the only fight that matters" then goes on about how units are bad because theyre not great in that option. Like bro listen to yourself
All these “hot take” dokkan tweeters all just try to act different and make stuff up to get interactions and quote tweets. Vector was trying to say gamma 1 is garbage and useless now and that beerus is the best tur like come on bro you are just baiting
There really isn’t much else to a hot take than that. It’s an opinion that is disagreeable by many and it’s meant to garner lots of attention whether it’s bait or not.
Datruth asked him to make the thread lil bro
On the damage thing I really don’t care about winning unless it’s for a mission I wanna see characters do big funny numbers
I wouldn’t have even thought I’d hear “Ultimate Gohan guys” and “SethTheProgrammer” in the same sentence - 38:06
I’ve no items almost every hard stage in the game with the Heroes team. Bro is tweaking 😂
Lesson learned for everyone. If you wanna get Truths attention make up nonsense or say the stupidest things ever
I lost it at "I think this is buffoonery". 😂
LB Vegito isn't a top 5 TUR, he's a top 5 unit 💀💀💀
Delusional
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 no??? LB Vegito is by far one of the strongest units in the game. Not a single TUR comes close. He's LR level for sure.
@@heleno6917Not sure if he's got the versatility to give him top 5, but he sure got the POWER.
@@heleno6917if he was LR level then they should’ve made him an LR huh? If only his base stats were better…
@@codered1132 because heroes doesn't get LRs, because if they did he sure as hell would be one.
I actually despise Ultimate Gohan the more people talk about him. He has got to be the most overrated character. I still remember Alan talking about this character all the time for MONTHS ON TWITTER. HE PROBABLY STILL IS OBSESSED WITH HIM
I guarantee this guy is living lavish with super heroes right now
dude really said Teq Mz finishes him off OBVIOUSLY has bro never heard of type disadvantage and the Extreme class > super class multiplier
I like how Chris Jericho was trending when Truth was recording and I just got a notification about it. Great timing
A top 10 team tier list would be very interesting ngl
I’ve never wanted to close a vid so fast lmao that heroes slander is absurd.
People just trash heroes because most players probably have them low dupe, and most of them suck at 55% (except for LBSSJ4 Vegito). I think at 100% though Vegito and the heroes team is very strong.
No vegito sucks at 55% he takes too much damage
Agreed vegito was pretty good for me even at 55 percent before I pull extra 2 dupes
Alan and Vector have a new disciple
15:48
shit take, damage dealing units are not overrated and the sooner people realize this the better.
What makes LB ssj4 vegito a god?
I'd say his ability to melt any stage you take him on, doing up to 80 mil plus with crits.
Killing your enemy before they can kill you is not overrated and has always been a legitimate strat in dokkan- until the og redzones came around- and 98-99% of all units were make completely useless. Now its a legitimate strat again because of units like lbssj4 vegito, ssj trio, the buu and gt duo, O.P. and others.
Lb ssj4 vegito is good because of his ability to tank bosses super
That's his biggest value and what's make him good
@@alaaaguil3076 Assuming the boss survived his 80 mil attack Stat
@@Velanestar yeah that's too
@@alaaaguil3076Doesn't really matter if he doesn't do enough damage to end the fight before turn 6 lol.
Defense glazers are delusional. Offense is just as important.
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 defense is a must on units but offense is not useless or dead
29:56 I burst out laughing, how delusional can people get 😭😭
Fights are based around the amount of items you can bring, therefore no item runs are not doing what the developers intended you to do, making every single no item run a cheated/skipped run, the only exceptions being when the developers want to challenge you with missions into not using items (or simply stripping you from items all together like in Extreme Z Battles), meaning that the boss has been checked and confirmed to also be playable without items.
If that was the case then no item runs should be impossible since they weren’t tested to be completed without items. No item runs show how good a character is individually
@@gumjaydenball1547No item runs being possible =/= Devs tested them to be possible
Besides, as powercreep is a natural thing in this game, every stage will become no-itemable after a while. Doesn’t mean they designed it to be that way.
Personally I’m of the opinion that NIRs are a good test of unit quality, but you’d be dead wrong if you thought these fights were actually designed around not using items
@@marshoul2717 actually yeah that’s fair
using items is fine but if u evaluate units with items thats moronic
On a 2 hour roadtrip needed this 🙏
Okay🙏
Okay🙏
The biggest problem is that his points all contradict each other. There is no consistency with his opinions.
i've found gamma 1's defensive ability not up to par an advantage in some situations. in the goku black/zamasu fight, hp ends up at around 10% when gamma 1 gets super'ed and int lr cell is waiting next rotation on 21's team. sure it takes a lot of rng for that specific situation, but it's the most consistant i've ever been with his transformation condition.
Ss4 limit breaker Vegito was the reason I beat fusion zamasu fight
Remember how you did a video ranking ALL characters until LR Int Namek SSJ Goku? You need to do another one for Beast Gohan.
38:18 - 38:24 This is literally 90% of Dokkan's "hot takes," awful tier lists, etc., whether it comes from "infamous" individuals or random members. I'm surprised more people aren't aware of this. *Most* of these people don't believe what they're saying, they just enjoy starting drama and arguments because they're addicted to negativity.
Chain battle is definitely better than world tournament.
World tournament is wayyyyy more annoying
Oh my 50 minutes of truth's reaction on hot takes is something that i needed in my life
The game isn’t designed around no item runs, no item runs ain’t important, using items is how the game is meant to be played, runs aren’t negated because you use items
The instant I saw this thread I knew Truth was going to be making a video on it, this is gonna be GOOD
Got scared for a second
Piccolo Jr has always been that guy, outperforms most of my box even at 55%. Him and Godku are some of my favorite Turs ever performance wise
eyyo truth that best lr list is straight up disrespectful to my homie int ssj4 he should be right below gt duo there is no way he is worse than that
Him saying something bad about KALE IS WHERE YOU GOT ME, KALE HAS NOT FAILED ME
dudes a perfect example of a broken clock is right twice a day
Truth peeking at smaller youtubers on Dokkan content? W 👀
So much "not to be rude" "not to be disrespectful" and then just basically calls every take stupid lol
35:40 brother you shouldnt have to make an argument for a character being good if youre saying theyre top 5 LMAO. You dont have to explain why op, bulma or gt duo are good its just obvious. Yeast gohan is top 20 lr, top 40 overall yikes
Ive cleared almost every hard stage on global with the heroes team because of limit breaker vegito. The team isn't the strongest but it still puts in work.
We don't have Omega yet on Global but I would call the SSJ LR and their team the best for fusion zamasu, they kill the boss in 3 or 4 turns no item it's insane. When you go in with 800k hp plus a revive and x2 the strongest active skill turn in the game, it's a challenge to even lose. I do factor in using the new support memory ofc, because those are not items.
Mr.Truth you gotta make a top 20 units in the game tier list,PRETTY PLEASE cough*cough*(DO YOUR JOB OLD MAN)
Cringe
@@urboi0313 ik it is but I was bold enough to do it,so I do get points for that don't I??
I just looked at this thread 5 mins ago n said "This looks like a free Truth vid" low and behold 💀
16:50 hmmm sounds a lot like str kaioken blue goku that truth was meatriding forever
Vector and Alan are shaking
I love ultimate Gohan, he’s super fun and a lot of the time he’s works pretty well, HOWEVER, u don’t need to cope for your favorite character, I like him, but he has flaws out the wazoo 😭
We need to stop evaluating units based on "best TUR" "best LR" "best LR EZA" "best DFE" and etc. There's no real reason to do this. The rarity of a unit doesn't make them notably different from units in other rarities. Usually, units within the same category will be closer together in power level, but especially recently, this hasn't been the case. It's much more helpful to just rank units in general. The LR PHY Androids and INT Rose may be the best 2 yellow coin LR EZAs, but that doesn't really tell me anything about how good they are overall, with the Androids being a lower top 10 contender, Rose being in the 15 - 20 range, and everyone below them probably being found at 30+. There's a huge disparity between them that you can't show on their ranking. Doing it this way just generally makes it more confusing to follow people's opinions. Since LR is the highest rarity, most of the best units in the game are LRs, obviously. But then the top LRs list becomes misleading, because while the start of the list may be referenced as a "best of ALL units list", the point where the best TURs make their interjection is unclear. And if someone is trying to build a team or decide who to summon for, the tier lists being split doesn't actually help them compare the choices they have available.
God i can't take this talks about Lr Gohan anymore. Just bury this fella already
Heroes units strongly relies on dupes to be good, it's a well known fact. and agl ssj4 Vegito with 200k def and 60% dr can't eat SA before attacking. That's why your at rainbow can and perform quite differently. Same goes with the 8th anni duos, it's that simple.
Getting the 70% HP condition for VB is definitely not as easy
I'd recommend recording a video of "ranking every character in dokkan until we get to beast gohan" but I don't think I'll have spare 2 hours to watch it.
19:22 dealing with those ideas won’t necessarily change those ideas tho this video is not gonna magically change the perception of anyone watching it lol, people are still gonna have the same perception they always had because some people do it to SPITE others even if they don’t necessarily believe it they’ll spout what they want to spout online because they know it gets a view from you or someone, and hot takes is what fuels entertainment. At the end of the day people are still gonna hate FZ and people are still gonna suck off OP and it’s how it goes.
Possibly a hot take: Full dodge on picc jr is viable and actually really good for tedzone fights
I wanna try this out but i ain’t spending dragon stones to change his HiPo
It is but I think he’s perfectly fine by himself with full additional
any build is fine but dodge is only if you run him against aoes which you shouldn't in the first place
I remember truth saying this but he put full damage for world tournament
@@Trigenoi did the same lol. What sucks is that even though it’s an offense build, my stuff never procs in a tough fight
I have Piccolo Jr on full Dodge/additional build and from my test runs and all the red zones that I've completed with this unit, I can definitely say full dodge is the way to go on this character he is just outstanding and amazing and I don't understand why some people are downplaying him to be honest I think he's number 1 until hirudegarn has an actual team that he can be ran on
It's crazy how piccolo jr fucking died, and he was amazing 7 months ago
his takes almost feel like he doesn't play the game and just plays vicariously through datruth's videos. it feels like he was trying to spite datruth but also have original takes at the same time lmfao
18:00. This is literally true tho they're constantly taking supers for 400k+ turn 1 unless they quad super. They're an amazing unit but they're not very good turn 1 and thats simply a fact
Omega on gt bosses team is criminal not enough killers in that team tbh
LB ssj4 Vegito kit alone is insane but the team that you have to run him on is very restrictive and also some of these units can get one shot in these events,if fusion zamasu supers a unit that didn't attack yet and they do not dodge they will instantly die, I've done it a few times in that fight also don't forget ssj3 rosé helps out alot too that hp recovery is a blessing to have when he transforms into full power, but ssj4 physical vegito he can get easily one shot if he doesn't attack before fusion Zamasu supers.
Imo LB vegito is number 1 Tur
I no itemed redzone MZ without Rosé
who would put phy vegito slot 1 doe
Hot take: dodge can hurt units who need to get hit and can costs you a win.
There are units like 23 goku who can get away with it but someone like FPSSJ4 cant. Not gettig tbose 5 hits quick enough can kill you 💀 which is why i do dodge very situationally. Lr blue duo/vegito i run dodge additinal it helps, ssj3ku dodge additinal helps, 23 goku dodge additionals, ftp dodge, phy andriods dodge additional, fp vegito dodge additinal. But buu duo additional crit (dodge would help but i do crit for SB additional for def build up i get to 1.6 mil def at turn), Vegito blue teq additional crit, Fuzed Zamasu Crit additional, orange piccolo crit additional, gt duo additional crit (needs 4 hits to get revive i need that early).
I'm convinced that the dokkan Twitter community is baiting so truth will make a video on them 😂
23WT Goku builds up by surviving getting hit.
Truth out here doing gods work, and probably just got this guy a ton of subs. Merry Christmas?
Pol4rity is crazy😅
Defense might be better but I enjoy seeing big ongabunga numbers more
Shitting on SSJ Goku and Vegeta and Trunks, GT duo literally killed all my suspension of doubt, Pol4rity is just glazing over every unit that has Gohan in it.
I bet his top LR was Ribrihane you don’t have to hide it 😏
But nah Picollo Jr. was the best villain of the year and personally my fav design unit, that’s how you make a villain. Overrated??? What villain is better? The STR 17s?????? Private server players think diff than us man, can’t wait for that shit to banned
Lbssj4 vegito needs to return due to how good he is 😂
I agree with you 99% except Broly doesn’t hit like a feather of you are f2p and don’t have rainbowed units
The GT Duo has 50% Condition DaTruthDT and Piccolo and Gohan has 70% which is easier to get
1 the gt duo give you full heal plus damage on enemy which is better than gohan and piccolo
2 it is literally 99% chance to be under 50% against fused zamasu most of the time
@@alaaaguil3076 he said they did everything better, their condition is much worse he was glazing. And if you are a whale it is not easy to get to below 50% especially with no scouter and the leader of the team nullifies the super. 70% is actually easy, i mostly get to 60% HP
@@alaaaguil3076 facts, idk what people are smoking to believe they are worse than gohan and piccolo
@@masterofmasters7936 simply agenda
@@honeymain4552 The GT Duo gives you the choice to revive when you need to while GP oftentimes forces you to revive when you may not want to, automatically losing all defensive capabilities when they fall under 70%. 70% is high enough to where you may not want to revive. But with GP, you don't get a choice. However, with the GT Duo, you do since it's an active skill, allowing you to almost always use it when needed. I haven't used them for myself so I can't accurately claim which is better, but I think this is the reasoning Truth is going for.
A possible hot take but 2023 is the worst year for dokkan releases
10:10 WTF I thought I was having a Hot Take when I said WT Goku and Godku are better than INT WT Piccolo... Bro really thought he was cooking.
They made that thread with wrong takes just to make engagement
1:54 Which is so odd.
I'm like this close to say that Gohan sucks on super heroes. Int Pan is dodge or die, and when you get his full ki and he absolutely sells it makes my blood boil.
He gets ki easier and stats easier earth bred fighters.
Lastly using piccolo's giant from in defense of Gohan can also be a critique in of itself. He's by that logic very unflexable/unrunnable on other categories.
Ngl I stopped taking him seriously and giving the benefit of the doubts after the gt duo & gohan and piccolo comparison. Gohan and piccolo are an obvious physically visible nerfed version of the gt duo.
The 8 year anniversary cards should’ve had guard turn 1
You know its pretty easy to have hot takes like these without video evidence
Not only is Vegito a top 5 tur, but I would say he’s a top 5 unit on the account of funny record pace boss beating.
His not even close too top 5 in the game over the fact other characters do better then him while being on other teams 🤡