The Balinese Tradition of Filing Teeth

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 3 чер 2019
  • For teens in Bali, adulthood bites different. Balinese teens come of age with a traditional ceremony that involves grinding down their upper canine teeth-a metaphorical and physical break from their animal instincts and ancestral roots. This ceremony is seen as the final responsibility a parent has to their child.
    VICE Indonesia follows Gek Sri as she undergoes her own “defanging” ceremony to see how Bali’s youngest generation of adults is taking on a tradition with deep roots on the island and ask whether a new set of teeth is “adulting” or actually adulthood.
    Click here to subscribe to VICE: bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE
    About VICE:
    The Definitive Guide To Enlightening Information. From every corner of the planet, our immersive, caustic, ground-breaking and often bizarre stories have changed the way people think about culture, crime, art, parties, fashion, protest, the internet and other subjects that don't even have names yet. Browse the growing library and discover corners of the world you never knew existed. Welcome to VICE.
    Connect with VICE:
    Check out our full video catalog: bit.ly/VICE-Videos
    Videos, daily editorial and more: vice.com
    More videos from the VICE network: www. vicevideo
    Click here to get the best of VICE daily: bit.ly/1SquZ6v
    Like VICE on Facebook: vice
    Follow VICE on Twitter: / vice
    Follow us on Instagram: / vice
    The VICE UA-cam Network:
    VICE: / vice
    MUNCHIES: / munchies
    VICE News: / vicenews
    VICELAND: / vicelandtv
    Broadly: / broadly
    Noisey: / noisey
    Motherboard: / motherboardtv
    VICE Sports: / noc
    i-D: / idmagazine
    Waypoint: / waypointvice
  • Розваги

КОМЕНТАРІ • 860

  • @D0ubleSwipe
    @D0ubleSwipe 5 років тому +1585

    Enamel Has left the chat.

  • @sajjeel123
    @sajjeel123 5 років тому +869

    I demand this level of treatment everytime I have to go to the dentist

    • @hellsfury666
      @hellsfury666 5 років тому +15

      Lmfao I know right????

    • @1985bjaycat
      @1985bjaycat 5 років тому +14

      I want the headdress!

    • @Emmy4ShortStack
      @Emmy4ShortStack 5 років тому +23

      Well my parents practically have to carry me in so 🤷🏼‍♀️😂 sorta counts, they never offer up a buffet at my dentist though 😒

    • @1985bjaycat
      @1985bjaycat 5 років тому +3

      @@Emmy4ShortStack no fair!! 😂

    • @hellsfury666
      @hellsfury666 5 років тому +1

      Emmy97xox omg your funny 😂

  • @spoon-6914
    @spoon-6914 5 років тому +804

    When the dentist hits my nerve with the drill I jump in pain, I can’t even imagine this

    • @user-pv4qq6ud9j
      @user-pv4qq6ud9j 5 років тому +39

      That’s the worst pain in the world dude

    • @cashen7384
      @cashen7384 5 років тому +2

      @@user-pv4qq6ud9j agree

    • @agungkrishna7000
      @agungkrishna7000 5 років тому +49

      Lol im balinese and i have done this. Suprisingly i does not hurt AT ALL

    • @spoon-6914
      @spoon-6914 5 років тому +44

      J L yup then they spray cold water in there just because to make it 10000 times worse

    • @1985bjaycat
      @1985bjaycat 5 років тому +3

      @@agungkrishna7000 wow it seems like it would!!

  • @avuhhh
    @avuhhh 5 років тому +799

    it’s so interesting to hear gek talk about nikes and brands and “haters” and being a virgo and a millennial while about to undergo this ceremony. she seems to be aware of its complications, too. very strange how the internet culture that she seems to be a part of doesn’t exactly clash with her own.

    • @hisyam9271
      @hisyam9271 5 років тому +70

      cultural identity > internet/online identity i guess

    • @cashen7384
      @cashen7384 5 років тому

      @Hytham Hammer he meant her not gek

    • @SHUJINCELL
      @SHUJINCELL 5 років тому +1

      Crazy

    • @otterhaus
      @otterhaus 5 років тому +9

      @@cashen7384 Gek is her name.
      Edit: I was wrong, according to the comment under mine, gek is a way of saying "girl"

    • @madearjuna4793
      @madearjuna4793 5 років тому +21

      "Gek" is like common ways to say "girl" here in Bali

  • @holodoctor1
    @holodoctor1 5 років тому +325

    "They say not to smile except in the mirror or else you'll be cursed!" *huge smile* lol

    • @jtpf87
      @jtpf87 3 роки тому

      She's cursed with a terrible accent!

    • @cris07876
      @cris07876 2 роки тому

      @@jtpf87 wdym

  • @xobile.123
    @xobile.123 5 років тому +285

    F in the chat for the bird.

  • @maryylenn
    @maryylenn 5 років тому +110

    my teeth hurt the whole time watching this video

  • @asentana
    @asentana 5 років тому +58

    "You have to watch out for the haters while you're shining"

  • @marshmallowpies1761
    @marshmallowpies1761 5 років тому +48

    As... as someone with EXTREMELY sensitive teeth... I was in pain watching this whole video.

  • @lovelilly4428
    @lovelilly4428 5 років тому +106

    She is using the roller ball mascara!!
    She is really gorgeous too

  • @saintbenedict3214
    @saintbenedict3214 5 років тому +72

    7:30 rip birdy 😖

  • @retiredtidepodeater3339
    @retiredtidepodeater3339 5 років тому +458

    Superstition is a mother*cker. 😂

    • @MoreSand12
      @MoreSand12 5 років тому +38

      @Electric Sheep guess you missed the part about receiving bad luck if you smile before seeing your reflection

    • @MoreSand12
      @MoreSand12 5 років тому +3

      @Electric Sheep it's all "weird" in its own way. I'm sure there's things that we do now that our grandchildren will think is nonsensical. Even now, she said they ditched the tradition of the parents carrying the child and opting for socks instead. I know a few people who have even let their future husband give them a second opinion on their wedding dress. I work in a restaurant and have noticed most people don't bother with candles anymore. Traditions change all the time. Mainly because they feel some parts are unnecessary to get the message across. We can agree to disagree though

    • @retiredtidepodeater3339
      @retiredtidepodeater3339 5 років тому +2

      @Electric Sheep This is literally the THIRD thread you've followed me too... Didn't I banish you to the shadow realm over an hour ago? 😂😂... Go away weirdo.

    • @Powertuber1000
      @Powertuber1000 5 років тому +2

      Western Cultural Marxism is a PC M-F-er.

    • @KillahManjaro
      @KillahManjaro 5 років тому +5

      @Anthony Okafor Religions aren't stupid. What's stupid is fallowing religions that's not indigenous to you and your people like Christianity, Jewdaism and Islam.

  • @chemonation1562
    @chemonation1562 5 років тому +331

    Side eyeing the re-upload Vice!!!...I watch a lot of your vids

    • @canbot1
      @canbot1 5 років тому +5

      Oh right it's the first episode and yet it is also a recent upload

    • @arrenregretsnothing5776
      @arrenregretsnothing5776 5 років тому +1

      yeah i was just like “didn’t they already post this??”

  • @alexivanovs
    @alexivanovs 5 років тому +8

    Nice one, Vice. I've been fortunate enough to attend a closing ceremony for a similar ritual and it's a lot of fun!

  • @torylanezbaldspot6350
    @torylanezbaldspot6350 5 років тому +125

    Shes cute as hell… her whole family has beautiful women…

    • @jtpf87
      @jtpf87 3 роки тому +1

      There's a LOT of makeup mate.

    • @willbedford8381
      @willbedford8381 3 роки тому

      Yeah she is. On a scale of 1 to 10, I would.

    • @xs6702
      @xs6702 3 роки тому

      @@jtpf87 that bali make up, real tone bali people its same like all indonesian

  • @MegumiHayashida
    @MegumiHayashida 5 років тому +104

    *everyone:* wtf VICE, a reupload??!
    *me, a grateful subscriber:* Thanks VICE!

  • @turtletots6648
    @turtletots6648 5 років тому +26

    This was a beautiful short! Such a lush green place! Her and her sisters and her mother all looked so good, like royalty! I love the head dresses they are immaculate. Such a wonderful ceremony, this is a amazing and beautiful tradition😊

  • @bluecats6238
    @bluecats6238 4 роки тому +28

    Nice to see cultural traditions kept alive

    • @buddhikathambugala3472
      @buddhikathambugala3472 2 роки тому +1

      At the expense of health

    • @EternalShadow1667
      @EternalShadow1667 Рік тому

      Yes, but even this seems quite westernised to my opinion. Reading an old anthropological account of Bali and its traditions by Geertz and this is quite jarring as a result.

  • @nevaehadkins4217
    @nevaehadkins4217 5 років тому +34

    at 7:23 i wanted to cry that poor bird

  • @sukiBambina
    @sukiBambina 3 роки тому +21

    Their national costume is beautiful!!!! I really respect that hair!!!!!!!!!!! I never got my canine filed down, am I full of evil energy?

  • @jonathanwoods9843
    @jonathanwoods9843 4 роки тому +15

    I was drawn to this video by first reading about the ceremony in a 1969 issue of National Geographic. In the magazine it appears that they are really filing quite a bit from the teeth, but in this video, it appears that the filing is fairly light. Is there a difference between then and now? Is there really an intention to alter the teeth, or is this really much more ceremonial? It seems to me to be the latter.

    • @ibha-xh6nn
      @ibha-xh6nn 3 роки тому +13

      Yes, the old way was more physically and mentally demanding. Back then, Person who about to undergo the process need to learn the basic of meditation to calm their nerve during the process. Today the ceremony is a lot more relax. In fact, more and more traditional ceremonies are more relax and following the modern health and safety guidelines.

  • @hondakubo9399
    @hondakubo9399 5 років тому +11

    Such a wonderful tradition and they all looks so gorgeous 🌾🌺🥰

  • @KillahManjaro
    @KillahManjaro 5 років тому +43

    Nice. Keep your culture and don't let outsiders sway you away from it.

  • @NSbergthor
    @NSbergthor 5 років тому +5

    Love balinese traditional dresses

  • @Maria-qm9cg
    @Maria-qm9cg 3 роки тому +5

    interesting to learn about this culture, through this ritual, big thanks to the comments/perspective of the main girl in this video...about what this may represent in the bigger picture.

  • @PissMenn
    @PissMenn 5 років тому +12

    Greetings to all Balinese over there from Javanese here.

    • @richarddawkins4607
      @richarddawkins4607 2 роки тому

      Islam destroyed all indonesian culture, replaced by desert culture.

  • @2l2q36
    @2l2q36 5 років тому +10

    This is done in the US but as a dental procedure not a ritual. My daughter had to get her front teeth shaved down before she had her braces put on.

    • @jlopez665
      @jlopez665 3 роки тому +2

      I think your daughters procedure might be a bit different

    • @2l2q36
      @2l2q36 3 роки тому

      Jimena Lopez She was well buck toothed. My girl looked like the Easter bunny 🐰🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @jlopez665
      @jlopez665 3 роки тому +1

      Samantha Sam .... not the exact same process. Maybe the same principle but definitely not the same procedure

  • @bhismahayana
    @bhismahayana 5 років тому +12

    i suggest you to go to Bali, not to get drunk, but to see our culture 🙂

  • @CatchyUsername95
    @CatchyUsername95 5 років тому +3

    This video was first on VICE Indonesia, then VICE Asia, and no just on VICE international??

  • @nugnugs8689
    @nugnugs8689 5 років тому +4

    I love stay in bali 🤙🏿 too much tradition to do but i love it, and you should search about meajar - ajar tradition

  • @kriztrinidad4199
    @kriztrinidad4199 5 років тому +6

    "you have to watch out for your haters when your shining"

  • @jeep1027
    @jeep1027 5 років тому +17

    This was already uploaded right... im not going crazy right?!?

    • @haleybledsoe5632
      @haleybledsoe5632 5 років тому +2

      Jenna Perry yeah they reupload bc they’ve got no other content :/

    • @jeep1027
      @jeep1027 5 років тому

      @@haleybledsoe5632 aaah valid

  • @jm823
    @jm823 5 років тому +8

    Its ironic the way many cultures celebrate "the right of passage" into "fill in the blank" in this case adulthood, in Indonesian culture its the filing down of teeth which means the breaking away and becoming more "human" or "civilized", while in other cultures they enhance the canine appearance of their appearance in order to achieve a higher spiritual connection to their religious icons and a higher enlightenment.

  • @contactwide
    @contactwide 5 років тому +151

    She looked allot better with her old fangs

    • @sergiokaminotanjo
      @sergiokaminotanjo 5 років тому +19

      this is just another desfiguration ritual, but at least the jews do it in a "cut"

    • @error.418
      @error.418 5 років тому

      *a lot

    • @CoffeePoints
      @CoffeePoints 5 років тому +10

      The goal isn't to look good

  • @hayleepearson5829
    @hayleepearson5829 5 років тому +68

    why reupload dis?? im confused.. just keep it up?

    • @Flame11boyy
      @Flame11boyy 5 років тому +15

      Keeping it relevant. Cause they have no new content.

  • @lulalaxxxx5620
    @lulalaxxxx5620 5 років тому +4

    i'm in bali when this video came out... what a coincidence

  • @ambarnim466
    @ambarnim466 Рік тому

    Beautiful ceremonial😍

  • @Qwistie_
    @Qwistie_ 5 років тому +13

    They killed that little chick. I guess the photo obsession is same for Indonesians as it is for Indians. It's funny how we mix the traditional with the modern. Sometimes you just do things for traditions sake. I love how she addressed white gaze.

  • @proudcatowner004
    @proudcatowner004 5 років тому +3

    When p the mom said "to control ourselves" and the look she made was like..........yeah to control ourselfes

  • @ravenmonroe6180
    @ravenmonroe6180 5 років тому +119

    Sounds like she doesn't believe nor want to do this

    • @dayrinx33
      @dayrinx33 5 років тому +6

      Right ? Kinda annoying

    • @delilahbrown6746
      @delilahbrown6746 4 роки тому +29

      No I feel like she understood the root elements of the traditions and seemed to appreciate them. She is a millennial, so she is expressing it in a different way. She made little comments like wanting to wear them with Nike's but she still understood the tradition, just made light of it all

    • @bapsnatchedmywig
      @bapsnatchedmywig 4 роки тому +2

      @@delilahbrown6746 exactly!

    • @igedekusumaantara7620
      @igedekusumaantara7620 4 роки тому +1

      This is a must for all Balinese Hindus who get grown up whether they want or not.

    • @bloxyedits
      @bloxyedits 3 роки тому +11

      I didn't get that vibe at all. She actually seemed happy. She just seemed a little uncomfortable due to all the attention she was getting. She mentioned that she doesn't like attention.

  • @mushishi9684
    @mushishi9684 5 років тому +1

    8:23 minute....Love her, understand
    Kultura of a part in the world

  • @sk8punk318
    @sk8punk318 5 років тому +6

    Call me paranoid but I wouldn’t let that “dentist “ even look at teeth

  • @magnolia2
    @magnolia2 5 років тому

    Watching this while brushing my teeth, baffled.

  • @ca9ri498
    @ca9ri498 5 років тому +1

    Wasn’t this a video 7 months ago?

  • @Hokuto_Tongi
    @Hokuto_Tongi 5 років тому +18

    **sees video that I’m sure I’ve watched already**
    🤔🤔🤔

  • @matthewz633
    @matthewz633 5 років тому +8

    Braces: *Am I a joke to you*

  • @es0strefis
    @es0strefis 5 років тому +6

    * insert anime meme picture * "is it re-upload ?"

  • @cierahowell8653
    @cierahowell8653 3 роки тому +1

    She is so beautiful the filing thing terrifies me though. It just makes me teeth tingle

  • @ibrahims754
    @ibrahims754 4 роки тому +2

    I got tooth sensitivity just by watching it!!
    Sensodyne has entered the chat!!!

  • @samanthacarrion9179
    @samanthacarrion9179 5 років тому +2

    Such beautiful teeth why?!??!

  • @calebacquah292
    @calebacquah292 5 років тому +27

    Deja-vu they change something in the matrix lol

  • @ChiniBau
    @ChiniBau 3 роки тому

    Lol i thought that guy who came to say be ready in 15min was a chef🤣

  • @sanaa.2195
    @sanaa.2195 5 років тому +18

    why the re-upload?

  • @StarAgateHD
    @StarAgateHD 5 років тому +5

    Someone knows her facebook or instagram?

  • @sarahgerhardt4747
    @sarahgerhardt4747 5 років тому +7

    I did this myself in my sleep

  • @simrancecil8380
    @simrancecil8380 3 роки тому +2

    That complexion is one thing women even if they put layers of foundation still cannot achieve 😍😍😍😍

  • @jackysgalaxy8531
    @jackysgalaxy8531 3 роки тому

    Finally something I haven’t heard of yet :)

  • @kev4850
    @kev4850 5 років тому +65

    I've already seen this long ago wtf

    • @leanna7185
      @leanna7185 5 років тому +1

      Nope. Re upload.

    • @smartymcfly3957
      @smartymcfly3957 5 років тому +2

      It sucks that the world doesn’t revolve around you huh

  • @Sentient.A.I.
    @Sentient.A.I. 5 років тому +2

    I guess candy is out of the question after adulthood.

  • @Visionery1
    @Visionery1 5 років тому +3

    Not that bad, here they remove the perfectly healthy upper teeth between the 'fangs'. Some call it a 'passion gap'.

  • @dkjoses12
    @dkjoses12 5 років тому +57

    Wtf vice. Re-uploaded!!!!!

  • @VeganDefinition
    @VeganDefinition 5 років тому +2

    Anyone find that song catchy?

  • @siZeDcuBe
    @siZeDcuBe 3 роки тому +3

    "Getting married?"
    "No.. with you? ;)"
    "No thank you."

  • @Nicola2949
    @Nicola2949 5 років тому +17

    Oh my word she is beautiful 😍🌺

  • @12345themadguy
    @12345themadguy 3 роки тому +2

    What exactly do they file i didnt see any difference

  • @nonstar321
    @nonstar321 5 років тому +1

    If I got treated like this when I go to my dentist I would go more often

  • @wasimshaikh1665
    @wasimshaikh1665 5 років тому +2

    and I thought only my family is crazy...😂😂😂

  • @catlarios7981
    @catlarios7981 Рік тому

    Everyones makeup on point 👌 lol

  • @Mvjesty23
    @Mvjesty23 5 років тому

    This was already posted?

  • @stevenseagal4987
    @stevenseagal4987 4 роки тому +5

    Watch out for the haters while you’re shining

  • @travis1190
    @travis1190 5 років тому +2

    I could't even tell a difference afterwards...

  • @Burnstein209
    @Burnstein209 5 років тому +44

    She's very pretty though, and all the ladies are in the family!!

    • @jacobstaten2366
      @jacobstaten2366 5 років тому

      Tho is Vietnamese. This is something else.

    • @jaseanthony70
      @jaseanthony70 5 років тому +4

      Just wait till they take out their teeth. Then you see the real beauty... lol. Everything is detachable. The best thing about Balinese women lol

    • @Burnstein209
      @Burnstein209 5 років тому +2

      @@jacobstaten2366 happy now?

    • @Burnstein209
      @Burnstein209 5 років тому +4

      @@jaseanthony70 Well if you are gay, why is it the best thing you can detach things from these woman? What purpose does it suit you?

    • @jacobstaten2366
      @jacobstaten2366 5 років тому +1

      @@Burnstein209 I thought you meant "rabbit" but now that I see you meant "though" it completely changes the meaning of the sentence, and I totally agree with you.

  • @kylemcgrew6024
    @kylemcgrew6024 5 років тому +4

    "Uploaded 4 hours ago" my ass 😂 I watched this months ago TF

    • @railsloopdrown
      @railsloopdrown 5 років тому +1

      I once watch it in VICE Indonesia too. I feel strange tho

    • @kylemcgrew6024
      @kylemcgrew6024 5 років тому

      @@railsloopdrown that's what it was! I knew I wasn't crazy 😂😂👌🏼

  • @xoMissTaylorDivine
    @xoMissTaylorDivine 5 років тому +2

    I wish I could have teeth as beautiful as her pre tooth filing 😖

  • @woowoowoowoo916
    @woowoowoowoo916 5 років тому

    Must be painful ouch

  • @yotaiji012
    @yotaiji012 5 років тому

    Beautiful

  • @Robdee999
    @Robdee999 5 років тому +1

    I’ve seen this before and I said fuck this and I’m seeing it again and the feeling is still there.
    Fuck that. I would just move away.

  • @Baseball4Life-
    @Baseball4Life- 5 років тому +6

    Pronamel has entered the chat.

  • @billybobaggins8820
    @billybobaggins8820 5 років тому +9

    Sometimes I think I know what the hell theyre saying then I read the captions and no

  • @slimydick23
    @slimydick23 3 роки тому +3

    7:28 I didn't learn enough about the chick's head being cut off

    • @rakaanggajananuragacokorda3147
      @rakaanggajananuragacokorda3147 3 роки тому

      I'm a balinese hindu..., I remember when I was a kid sitting next to a priest / person who leads the prayer in the temple, and he just killed the chick just like in the video with bare hands, just in front of my eyes. I was so sad. I wish religious ceremony could have less and less violence / death. I know, they justified it with stories like "the soul of sacrificed animals will reincarnate as higher being (they mean human, maybe)". I just don't buy it. But well, who am I, just a tree hugger.

  • @polaricecaps10
    @polaricecaps10 5 років тому +8

    She's definitely Gen Z, not a millennial.

  • @lorrainedebeer2338
    @lorrainedebeer2338 Рік тому

    Great video, very poor editing on the captions.

  • @anicatt
    @anicatt 5 років тому +72

    This must be for the wealthy I don’t believe everyone can afford this ritual

    • @je6874
      @je6874 5 років тому +20

      A Nii definitely. It’s never mentioned in videos like these how you have to be wealthy and privileged to get this treatment.

    • @sexlordadelaide4638
      @sexlordadelaide4638 4 роки тому +20

      it’s so expensive. usually families have to wait for all their children to come of age to have this done. most, if not all, balinese people have this done!

    • @igedekusumaantara7620
      @igedekusumaantara7620 4 роки тому +20

      This ritual is for all Balinese Hindus wheter they're wealthy or poor. As same as other traditions in Bali it can be made simpler and cheaper than that is shown in the video.

    • @igedekusumaantara7620
      @igedekusumaantara7620 4 роки тому +5

      @@sexlordadelaide4638 actualy we can do this ritual together with our other family members (big family). Ex my cousin or my uncle get married and they do this ritual, I and my bro n sis can join it. No need to wait all the children has grown up we can do this seperately.

    • @wiraa.wibisana7777
      @wiraa.wibisana7777 3 роки тому +1

      Not really, my family is not rich; but we for some reason they can afford for this ceremony. Yes, even the clothes.

  • @215Daniel
    @215Daniel 5 років тому +6

    Addicted to social media, nikes, and haters.

  • @mrfunatparties6763
    @mrfunatparties6763 5 років тому +8

    I would like to grind all my teeth till they are pointy

  • @Mo-gc4xp
    @Mo-gc4xp 5 років тому +2

    Damn, I thought I had sensitive teeth. 😬

  • @commandroid9336
    @commandroid9336 5 років тому

    Dentist: Am I a joke to you?

  • @Busa1337
    @Busa1337 5 років тому

    a reupload?

  • @moonlightsweetener4309
    @moonlightsweetener4309 Рік тому +1

    Unless i were allowed to have some kind of anestesthia, I would be having a panic attack from the beggining

  • @DatNinja36
    @DatNinja36 4 роки тому +3

    This is like a Asian quince with a tooth cleaning 😂

  • @MG._.MG13
    @MG._.MG13 5 років тому

    You all uploaded this before

  • @zeldaz
    @zeldaz 5 років тому

    Her dad is a wise man

  • @Klau92
    @Klau92 5 років тому

    Why r they uploading this again?

  • @ncwest1984
    @ncwest1984 5 років тому +1

    I know i watched this already..

  • @tesslucas
    @tesslucas 5 років тому +2

    The headless duck on the ground though... didn't see that coming!

  • @MichaelTrevinoFan101
    @MichaelTrevinoFan101 3 роки тому

    If I get a filing it would be to make my canine teeth into fangs. I actually use it to break hard ass candy and it doesn't hurt like it would to others.

  • @Kio-uc9ho
    @Kio-uc9ho 2 роки тому

    Love india from bali

  • @ryushogun9890
    @ryushogun9890 2 роки тому +1

    Good to see not a lot of haters cause of the dead chick. I feel my soul clean.

  • @jashandeepkaur8203
    @jashandeepkaur8203 4 роки тому

    wow what a royal treatment

  • @biancalacey4155
    @biancalacey4155 5 років тому +2

    how interesting