For 10 years I worked with intellectually delayed individuals and they were even treated with more freedom, regardless of their incapacity to understand. Many of these people were given either court appointed guardians or their parents remain guardians, however forced sterilization, birth control, or anything of the like would gain a huge finding with APS and DDA and all parties involved with lose their licensing and their ability to be involved in that client's life as well as any vulnerable adults life. I'm wondering how this case is so brutal, or so special, as I've seen more freedom with someone who is nonverbal, in a wheelchair, with cerebral palsy, severe autism, severe down syndrome, or severe brain damage. The developmentally/intellectually individuals that I supported had complete and full freedom of what they wanted to do with their money, their life, and their medical decisions to the best of their personal abilities. If we had a client that was verbal and could speak up we were not allowed to do any medical procedure on them if they said that they did not want it even if their guardian said that they wanted to do it to the client. Even something as simple as a tooth extraction, the dentist would not extract a tooth if the client emphatically said no, and if they refuse to take their medications it was a simple as documenting their refusal. It was never anything forced on these individuals. I'm wondering how much of this is legal in Britney spears's case as far as forcing her to take medication and coursing her. If she is so incapacitated that she needs an executor and a conservator, then she would technically be considered a vulnerable adult am I correct? If that's the case then they are complacent and culpable and abuse of a vulnerable adult which would see jail time, heavy fines, and inability to work with people within the populace ever again
I was a full on nurse assistant and advocate for vulnerable adults, maybe California is just 100% screwed at this point...no hope I guess...they don't see humans as individuals just as a commodity....super sad
I simply can't comprehend how any of this was even legal, I used to be heavily involved with my mom's treatment at 16 because SHE didn't trust anyone else and she was right to do so, if it were up to my father, she'd still be in the hospital because he was angry at her schizophrenic outbursts. The doctors didnt listen to him even though ~legally~ my dad was the one to be calling the shots, because my mom could advocate for herself. The treatment >worked< because the doctors respected HER. I cant imagine how traumatizing it must be to live at the mercy of a person that doesnt care what you want and not even what you need.
If everything was on the up and up, these hearings would NOT BE SEALED. All Britney needs is a badass accountant who will put most of her money in a trust for her kids, invest the rest, give Brit an allowance, and fire all these freaking parasites attached to her.
I'm a little confused on this portion, was everything going to be open to the public but then after she testified the next day her attorney stated they should be sealed?
It took him long enough. For the past FOURTEEN YEARS Britney's dad has pretended his daughter is a drooling fool who can't be trusted to wipe her own butt, and now that the world is watching he's all of a sudden he is conserned with Britney's wants and needs
After reading the New Yorker article which contains quotes from people who were actually involved in setting the conservatorship up, I feel physically sick. This has never, ever been in Britney’s best interest. Her father has completely and utterly abused her. The verbal abuse mentioned in the article alone is harrowing, the rest is incredible. How this was allowed is beyond me.
Anyone remember when Britney went on Carpool Karaoke? It was a good few years ago, and at the time Britney mentioned that she wanted another child then, didn’t she sing “all that she wants is another baby”. Her dad would have been the conservator then…
I just watched that again 2 days ago...it was very interesting, given what we now know...I feel so very bad for Britney, She doesn’t deserve to be treated this way
All this stuff with Britney has taught me is that conservatorships should be much more difficult to obtain and should be more tightly controlled. And I think that there should always be an outside party to evaluate that isn't in any way affiliated with the conservator
Oh yes he does, he just can’t anymore. He’s trying to hang on to the estate and avoid a financial investigation and blame it all on the current conservator of the person. Ethically, I don’t know how he was awarded both to begin with as they both form a conflict of interest to fulfill those duties. His relationship with her from her speech should be enough to dismiss him for conflicts of interest. He shouldn’t be involved in any way at this point. This investigation hopefully opens the door to more in the future into his. The state of California is insane. The fact that this has been going on this long and she can’t chose her own attorney or know her rights to petition is so insane! The system failed her, she was their responsibility to look after. Her court appointed lawyer is a tool at best and more than likely a co conspirator of dad spears. Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if judges and lawyers made shady back room deals to begin with. I’m revolted by all of their abuse of power and trust.
This all needs to be scrapped and looked into by new lawyers, new financial managers, she needs to have all drugs withdrawn under oversight by new medical doctors and a reassessment by those new doctors, that IUD needs to be removed, forced sterilization is grotesque. Any one pulling "wages" from her estate should have said wages based on a regular 40 hr work week hourly rate or yearly salary depending on how said employment would be paid, no more, no less. Anyone getting money from her estate should not have a say in her conservatorship as they are not objective. And no one in her family except her children should be getting a dime otherwise.
Years ago Britney said she wants a baby girl because she wants a friend, which I found so sad (& not the best reason for having a child though she'd definitely love a baby & be a very caring, well intentioned mom, probably with help), to which my older cousin, a lawyer, immediately said "She's not allowed." It seems through the conservatorship or keeping Britney from knowing the facts, she was stopped for years from conceiving. There are many who weren't at all surprised by her comments about forced birth control. She was also getting less custody of her boys. My question is if she's allowed to visit her children when it's not her time to have them or if her ex-husband is allowed to bring them over to her when it's his time. I think it would have been nice for her. What's the reason she has so little custody? I understand from former years, but does that keep going? Is she assessed? Has she tried for more? Is she allowed? Does she know she's allowed to try?
I think her dad just puts it like this...if you dont do this you cant go here. If you dont take this medicine you cant do this. So on paper she has a lot more freedom than what she actually has as far as her dad goes.
Yes, apparently seeing her kids and her boyfriend are held over her all the time for just about anything and it seems like Daddy is in on it with Ingham and the others. They all meet to decide how to screw her over and keep her in this so they keep her money.
Right. The thing that he holds over her head are her CHILDREN. The love she has for them (because it's normal!) is the weapon he uses time and again to manipulate her. That's how he got her to sign off on it to begin with. Since she married k-Fed and had kids, he has been inching his way into total control. None of this happened overnight. It's just that nothing she gave her parents (millions!) was ever enough!
This has made me stop and think about the thousands of other voiceless, non famous people feeling like modem day slaves in their own conservatorships. We need to take a serious look at ALL individuals in these arrangements.
Yes, disability rights advocates (disabled themselves) have been talking about how this should be used as an case to stop abusive conservatorships. Unfortunately, I've seen many saying they did this to her because she is a woman and to a disabled woman.
I have no idea why conservatorships like this dont rise to the federal level as civil rights cases. States have the right to grant their citizens more rights than the constitution, not fewer.
This 100% I remember Emily answering someone's question about federal oversight and I clenched my teeth a little when she started her answer with something like, "well, it's states rights. I don't think the federal government should be telling states how to manage themselves," (I'm paraphrasing, it's in the Friday night live stream) and my top about popped at the slight defense of them not being federally regulated. No ma'am, stripping a person of their constitutional rights should 100% be _critically_ regulated by a federal authority for consistency and oversight. If this Britney conservatorship has made one thing abundantly clear, it's that states cannot be trusted to administer conservatorships (or similarly called things, depending on the state) in a fair, equal, and well monitored manner. I'm all for states rights; handle your taxes, legalize gambling or don't, legalize weed or don't etc, but when the most basic intrinsic personal freedoms are on the line, you don't leave that shit up to whatever the state thinks is a good way to do it. This whole shitshow brought an ignored, rotting, festering problem right into the spotlight, and it needs to change. I'm just sad that it took someone as big as Britney for anyone to listen, and that she's had to endure this, because nobody listened before.
@@Libra8410 Yes, its insanity. I honestly begin to believe that the states stand to make money in these types of arrangements to the point they turn a blind eye. The Stan Lee conservatorship was nearly as heartbreaking. Due to the successful reboot of the Marvel franchise he was just getting out from under his daughter and who ever it was that he referred to as "her goons" and then he died. The next day she had his collection up for auction.
The answer to this is in the NYT (Ronan Farrow) article. Britney also mentioned it in her testimony. Every time she got her own lawyer, one of which tried to get it federally acknowledged, was threatened and fired under the 'rules of the conservatorship' (it's been declared that she can not appoint her own because that would be a 'decision' that she has no right to). The second lawyer walked abruptly with a very strong statement, suggesting to me that he was threatened.
Yup and her father too because he specifically chose those lawyers who would gladly violate their oath and conspire to keep Britney under the conservatorship. Jamie outdoes himself.
Exactly. What's going on with her appointed lawyer? I don't believe he's interested in Britney's wishes at all. I cannot believe she's been denied access to choose her own lawyer. Is that not a basic basic basic part of our "justice" system, regardless of whether she is in a conservatorship or not, to be able to choose a lawyer?? (in fact, it seems even MORE important that she has someone advocating for her that she chooses BECAUSE she is under conservatorship)
@@BrainSturgeon Well it looks like her lawyer, Sam Ingaham had 10,000 new reasons *each week* to keep Britney under the conservatorship. Since January 2008. That’s roughly $7,000,000! Jamie Spears / the whole damn family might end up being the most evil Hollywood family ever.
How nice! Brittany gets to pay for the attorney that filed this. She gets to pay Jodie's lawyer for the response. She gets to pay her personal attorney Sam to respond. Conservatorships ARE AWESOME! $10,000.00 LATER
Remember how the public went after Britney for wasting tax money when she was taken to the hospital? As if it was her fault 95% of the first responders that showed up weren't needed. Certainly all these people she employs pay taxes on that income. No telling how much money she has generated for California.
What would be his income if he did nothing tied to his daughter? Idk but to me that’s an important thing to consider regarding why he is so adamant on keeping this up.
Why is there so little common sense applied to court decisions? From March to November 2009 Britney has been performing world wide, showing her competency in that she was able to practice, choreograph, and perform. At that time, at least, conservatorship of her person should have ended and a financial manager appointed to help protect her from money grubbing predators. No common sense applied in her case.
It all sounds like it’s going to be a long winded, frustrating and fully contested battle to me. I just hope Britney is allowed a decent lawyer and has the strength to see it all through. Give this woman her damn freedom, stuff the paperwork and legal battles it’s all just a money making scam the whole thing
If the Dad Spears is saying that he has been cut off from all communication with Brittany how can he effectually operate the estate in the way she would want to... how can she agree to contracts, tours, etc.? I'm also curious if Dad Spears is asking to do away with the conservatorship of the person why is he not asking to have the conservatorship of the estate evaluated? Is this a look over there Jodi is the bad guy not me?
Yes, he's trying to blam Jodi for the medical things, however he is the one who is in charge of the money paying for it. So he is still controlling everything in a way just not on paper.
@@SandfordSmythe for the extreme stuff ya he can't, but for things like the IUD, her meds, drs, treatment centers, etc he can. That's also why she can't pick her own attorney, she already has tried in the past. I read somewhere that Jodi has sent paperwork to the court talking about it.
She doesn’t have the right to make the decisions about the business he makes all of those without her input. There was a filing a while back when Ingham objected to the new business manager. Dad Spears response was essentially - she doesn’t have the right to know or give input on her business manager….it’s wild.
@@TheEmilyDBaker it really is wild. The thing that got me the most was when Watt(I think that's his name) was asking for a raise and in his statement said and I'm paraphrasing "Britney's progress and income makes for a lucrative business" or something along those lines. He gets the ok then he bails out because he didn't want to get debarred. I believe this was after her being sent into treatment for those 4 months after she canceled her 2nd vegas residency.
Britney needs to be her own person. Even if she is messed up. That is the only way she will get better, or worse, but her only chance at getting better.
This whole thing feels like damage control - they hoped no one would really notice all the questionable and dodgy shit going on. They did the 'look shes unwell and doing crazy stuff' excuse. i'd do crazy shit too if I'd been worked to exhaustion for years to pay for everyone elses lifestyles.....
I feel like even though he legally has no control over her person, that doesn’t mean he isn’t behind the scenes threatening her (my opinion) while still being in control of her money.
Am I the only one that found it strange that the dude she was engaged to was appointed co-conservitor at the time. Her dad was cool with them getting married and cool with this dude also having control over her? Maybe I'm just making own conspiracy theory over here but I just found that to be veeeery sketchy
@@jerijenee no, like her dad really liked him, maybe their interests (money, etc) were aligned so Jamie was cool with him marrying Britney. Maybe the guy she's with now doesn't get along with Jamie or Jamie doesn't like him so he's stopping her from getting married. Does that make sense? I just got off work, my brain is tired lol
Yep, that fact is truly outrageous to me that a court would allow a boyfriend to be a co-conservator of his girlfriend for any length of time. It screams conflict of interest and it reinforces to me that conservatorship in general is unbelievably vulnerable to abuse, especially when the person is wealthy.
I am wondering if there's talking and negotiations going on behind the scenes? 🤔 By the way @Emily D Baker, apparently Britney called the police the day before the hearing to report abuse. There's also a lengthy New Yorker article that's pretty bad sounding.
That'd be great except she's been declared "unstable". Unfortunately, depending on the judge, the collective "everyone" could say, " That's one of her irrational episodes when everyone is against her" or "She has this whole 6/23 grandstanding event plotted out. Come on, Your Honor, I'm sure the Court sees through such a child-like plan." (Manipulating the Ct to respond saying "yes" or be saying, "I don't see anything childish.") I wonder if she's done this before (made a 911 call).
Emily, I have a question - in the case of James Spears death, because he has the control of the estate/finances, what would happen to Britney’s money? Is Britney allowed to see her own finances? Would she know how much money is, say in her primary bank account? Also, because Britney has shown her ability to work, put on a Vegas residency and have the ability to memorize choreography, execute many intricate moves, give hundreds of performances, record music, being on tv shows, and arguably make millions of dollars - would those circumstances add to her argument to show she’s a capable person? I’m not sure who would use those circumstances in her favor. - I’m curious as You can replace James with any other conservator and Britney with any other conservatee.
5:06 There is a typo in this. They forgot to add the word money to the end of this sentence. It should read "However, he is concerned about the management and care of his daughter's money." He doesn't give a damn about anything that happens to Britney as long as he has his talons in the money she rakes in.
Being disabled when you have a controlling, abusive family member is a constant battle for autonomy. I’m not even mentally vulnerable, my disability is entirely physical but the system makes it so easy for me to lose all my rights. I’m so sorry and angry for Britney, this shouldn’t ever have happened to her, but I’m glad it’s bringing attention to these laws. I am noticing that people seem to be seeing this as a one off, but it’s not - this is what it is to be disabled. The law should protect us but it does the opposite.
@Lexie I met a girl who was paralized in early 20s. So I researched what is life like. Omg I never had a clue about daily elimination issues. What a hell. Noone talks publicly what its like to depend on family and/or paid care helpers to deal everyday with these private, intimate needs. One must need great internal emotional strength to maintain dignity and self respect to accept this dependence on others. I dunno what your personal situation requires..but whatever it is..wishing you lots of good days and happiness. Hugs.
@@raffila Thank you so much for your kindness. You don’t know how good it is just to hear someone say they stopped to think and to research about what life is like for people like me. Wow. The vast majority just shut their eyes and stick their fingers in their ears until we go away. I’ve got a hundred and one elimination and personal hygiene stories that could make your hair curl! I try to see the comedy in these things publicly, but tbh inside I’m screaming. To not be able to care for yourself and do simple, private tasks at the age of 37 and to have to employ people to help and just to go from one useless person to another who takes advantage, to another who walks out and leaves you in danger, to another who steals your oxycodone…. I could go on. It’s mortifying. Dignity is the first thing to go, the very hardest thing to retain. All while having a family member filing false police reports and trying to legally take control of your care and act as your representative against your wishes so they can force everything you wish to avoid and refuse to happen… it’s just relentless. I don’t know what happened to the woman I was, I don’t recognise anything about the person who is left behind. I wish their was a way of guaranteeing people in my situation some proper legal representation, medical advocacy and support. A lot of us desperately need it.
@@Grimalkins Sadly I know what its like to "lose yourself" and to fight battles for understanding by community. 40 yrs of it. If I went into details, same story of crying on inside, cheerful jokes on outside. Even those who truly want to help, to make change get conflucting advice from experts. If you goto IEP meets, the annual school meet for teachers, special ed educator and parents..omg..the crazy mix of sensible solutions and ignorance/stupidity. I try not to be cynical but one year I was at my own school, not as parent but as community outreach advocate person...I listened to parents of regular kids praise themselves for how they welcomed 20 wheelchair kids. Integrated them. They patted selves on back so hard, I finally lost it and said.."raise your hand if you invited 1 of the special needs kids to your child's birthday party." Total silence, zero hands raised. 25 yrs ago. Today, if I went to a school where they held a similiar end of year assessment with 25 school parents in room, I truly believe I would get zero hands on same question. Even the kindest people talk a good game but don't live it. As my mom always said..actions speak louder than words. I know you still are "you" ..that special unique "lexie" gal, so while you look for youself, know that others hear your voice and hug you close, even if you cant see us, we hear you! 😘
In my interactions with "the Law/Government" they always deny the first request for everything. They want ppl to go away, or prove they are sincere by filing Multiple times. Haven't you found this to be true?, in California at least I have.
That’s such a good point on this. The whole thing stinks of “let’s wait for the PR storm to calm down”...without them seemingly having any consideration for how giant this conversation has become. The rats are jumping ship, as the saying goes. Or at least trying to.
I was reading an article that was saying the net worth of different celebrities and Britney was on that list. It said that she was worth 215 million dollars but then this court stuff says her net worth is 60 million so which is true and where is all her money especially when her Circus tour supposedly made 131million
In addition to the PR, but ALSO didn't Brittney say that she was considering suing her family.... So this might also be trying to get ahead of that both in court of public opinion but also documented statements of denial. 🤷🏼♀️
Britney doesn't need a co-ship, she's a fully developed Adult. Whole thing is heinous. And sexist ay eff. This doesn't happen to men worth between 100 - 600 million USD.
Have you read Ronan Farrow’s latest deep dive into the conservatorship? It alleges at least during the beginning part of the conservatorship that Ingham reported on his client’s meetings to Mr. Spears. Curious about your take on that (I know it’s outside of the legal documents you normally break down).
I just read it great article, very thorough. It was heart breaking reading how britney had to smuggle and hide phones, and couldn't afford basic expenses with her measly allowance.
I read the whole thing and it will probably give me nightmares tonight. :( It seems that almost everyone she close to her (perhaps excluding her crew members and housekeepers) were just looking for a way to use and utilize her.
She should play them at their own game. "You are right I am unwell, it's best I never perform again". That would give her bargaining power. UK news is saying Jodie Montgomery has resigned though?
UK has no independent mainstream media - everything printed is Rupert Murduch's own personal opinion. He's an Ozzy billionaire who has his own country at heart and seeks to destroy ours. Feelsbadman.
Give her her whole life back she’s a grown lady and she’s working hard for herself and kids my heart go’s out to her couldn’t imagine going through that
As I know there is a kind of behavior, when a guilty person actually starts the investigation by attracting Police or other related forces - to act like they have no bad intentions... I would suggest, that evidents of Britney's bad being become reach the court soon, so the Dad's lawyer might be aware. Then Dad can try to act hard attracting everybody's attention, asking for investigation, involving other specialists - do everything in his power to make it seems like it isn't his fault.
Very important question: since Britney is under a conservatorship and unable to make legal/medical/financial decisions for herself would she automatically loose custody/decision making control over any future children she had while under the conservatorship? Her ex has full custody of her other children and that decision seems to have been based off, in part, the conservatorship. Would the father automatically have the sole decision making power over the child, or would the conservatorship also have to be involved in the care decisions for the child?
THANK YOU for all your explaining all since Brintey's court statement! NOW it all makes mucg more sense as to what is going on legally. I have questions (teehee) about the "Investigation." What will that look like (typically) AND more importantly, Britney WILL be involved in this process, correct? Please tell me this is so, otherwise...........really how valid will an "investigation" be without her getting to speak her mind and share EVERYTHING she wants to share? Like she did in her last statement. THANK YOU again! ~~ Fellow Law Nerd.~~
This all comes down to money. Would they go this far if she never made it big and became a never ending source of income for them.? Probably not. They didn’t lock Jamie Lynn up and take over her life, take custody of her daughter and put her on forced birth control after getting pregnant at age 16. I guess that Zoe 101 money wasn’t good enough.
And for grabbing a knife behind the counter at a sandwich shop to go after someone with. Look up the video footage on UA-cam from the store surveillance
I always look forward to your professional opinion to be posted 😉 sensible and logical people are a rarity on the good ole tube sometimes 😘😘 Thanks Emily ❤️
Please find the Orders. As a lawyer I’m horrified by this entire thing. My 11 year old autistic daughter seems to have more autonomy than this woman does. I’m not understanding why her lawyer didn’t advise her to bring a motion. I’m not understanding why her Order was not taken to be issued in a timely manner given its importance. How can you force a person who has been declared incompetent to work and to sign binding contracts?
It’s kind of giving , since Dad Spears isn’t going to be in the driver seat living high off the hog he wants to send the whole PERSONAL conservatorship up in flames.
I agree the court system moves at snails pace, and all parties are incentivised to keep this thing going so that they can keep invoicing. I just hope that the public scrutiny has some effect, Jamie is elderly and in poor health. There needs to be a long term plan to unwind this.
What a POS! He’s trying to hang on to the estate and avoid a financial investigation and blame it all on the current conservator of the person. Ethically, I don’t know how he was awarded both to begin with as they both form a conflict of interest to fulfill those duties. His relationship with her from her speech should be enough to dismiss him for conflicts of interest. He shouldn’t be involved in any way at this point. This investigation hopefully opens the door to more in the future into his. The state of California is insane. The fact that this has been going on this long and she can’t chose her own attorney or know her rights to petition is so insane! The system failed her, she was their responsibility to look after. Her court appointed lawyer is a tool at best and more than likely a co conspirator of dad spears. Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if judges and lawyers made shady back room deals to begin with. I’m revolted by all of their abuse of power and trust.
All these lawyers, reacting to Britney's conservatorship, profiting on it and not doing anything to help her is the reason why such abuse in the legal system exists.
Have you all read the New Yorker article, Britney Spears's Conservatorship Nightmare? Wow. Just wow. It really seems this all started because her babies were taken - when she was still nursing one - and it caused such suffering and pain, to which she then wanted control, was put in a 5150 and a judge put her under the conservatorship and appointed Sam as the lawyer, over a small incident when she was understandably struggling in her mid twenties...it set he off, she kept being controlled, she kept trying different types of freedom, all used against her, and now she's almost forty years old, furious, angry, traumatized, a prisoner. She's going to get out of this. It's going to help people.
"The thing" with all these hearings, postponements, rescheduling, etc. etc. is that it allows a person like Brittany to remain virtually a slave for far too long. The delay, delay, delay, tactics allowed in our courts is a travesty.
I want all judges and lawyers involved investigated because no one in their right mind would give a person with alcohol dependency that level of control over another.
I never once liked him. I saw an old documentary about Britney Spears Dating 10 years ago I think, and she was as much unhappy there as she is now, plus i saw through her Dad even just a few glimpse in the video, plus there are evidence from both Britney's Exes that her Dad is controlling and manipulative. So IF this should go into a trial which it should these people better come in and testify otherwise it's not going to be beneficial for Britney she needs more people coming in to help her. And of course her entire family are useless clearly only interested in her money.
I told my husband that if I were ever forced to have an IUD and I wanted it out, you better believe I'd hand him a flashlight and some needle-nose pliers... I am so perplexed how this is legal to do to anyone. There would be rioting if they ever forced, say, Kanye to have a vasectomy or chemical castration.
Seems like Jamie is requesting investigation as quickly as he can so he can (as you said) escape the blame/press AND be the first to choose (hire) the investigators. Even IF the courts appoint an investigative team the odds that they won't be on the conservators payroll will be slim. That's how this system works and how it's gotten this far, no? If Jamie is the first to file for investigation I think in his mind, he thinks he will have control over their conclusions just like he controls the evaluations.
Exactly what I was thinking too. I mean, what could they do if she decided to call it quits on everything? No more singing, concerts, Vegas, records, videos... frankly, if I was her I would just tell everyone you have bled me dry for the last time. You get nothing more bk I will do nothing more.
There is no minimum dollar amount for a conservatorship over finances. The conservatorship just recognizes that someone needs to help the person financially and/or to make medical decisions because they have proven they are unable to do those things for themselves. Most conservatorships are for the elderly, disabled or minors and the only income involved is social security, disability, or small support payments. This case gives conservators a bad name. Most of the time, conservators have a lot of responsibility and make nothing. I am inclined to believe there is more to this case than we will ever know. Judges require a lot of documentation to support a conservatorship. I find it hard to believe that a judge would approve of a conservatorship without any cause. Also, Britney’s dad has no authority over her reproductive decisions. That really is Montgomery’s responsibility and not his. The fact that Montgomery is trying to blame him makes me VERY suspicious of her. I have been a conservator and we were instructed to let the individual make as many decisions for themselves that they can reasonably make. Nobody really knows Britney’s medical diagnosis, nor what financial decisions she has made in the past that support the conservatorship. I think her dad is trying to preserve her wealth so she doesn’t sign contracts that aren’t in her best interest and could possibly cause legal problems for her. He doesn’t want people to take advantage of her and leave her without anything. Court oversight with a conservatorship is a very safe way for her to be protected. If anyone is trying to take advantage of her financially, that would be seen in the annual financial accounting and a judge could order that any questionable disbursement of funds would have to be returned to her.
Yes, you hit the nail on the head!!!!! A lot of PR shit thing!!!!!! The most important thing is "there is NO medical diagnosis that should restrict a person's constitutional right " so, she is entitled to equal rights under the law.
Someone had questioned why Brittney was not allowed to remove her IUD to get pregnant and as a Certified Pharmacy Technician Lithium is dangerous to take while pregnant for the baby and it is difficult to manage Bi Polar Diagnosis while pregnant because of the fluctuations of hormones. Women diagnosed with Bi Polar do however get pregnant and manage off medication or find other safer meds to help manage their symptoms while pregnant and even sometimes their symptoms can stabilize while pregnant. I just thought I’d throw that out there since we now know she was pulled off her medications she’d been stable on for 5 years and put on lithium pretty much overnight. Also you can’t stop any Psych meds cold turkey without a slow taper off while tapering up on a new medication. I worked in a pharmacy that saw many psych patients be treated and I saw this taper down and taper up often and in fact some psych meds actually have packets that are sold in the taper up regimine so the physician did not have to figure out how to do the taper up themselves. Lamictal for example you start with a low dose once a day for a week, then take the low dose twice a day for a week and then up to the full dose after that.
She should have a new judge. I think this court is afraid of having their pants sued off for doing this in the first place. This is so way overboard it just insane! You can fix this Emily!! Lol!!
IUD's can last from 3-7years. Some even make you gain some weight. She would have at least 2 by now since her last pregnancy. You can take it out anytime. Her dad should be held accountable no doubt.
For 10 years I worked with intellectually delayed individuals and they were even treated with more freedom, regardless of their incapacity to understand. Many of these people were given either court appointed guardians or their parents remain guardians, however forced sterilization, birth control, or anything of the like would gain a huge finding with APS and DDA and all parties involved with lose their licensing and their ability to be involved in that client's life as well as any vulnerable adults life. I'm wondering how this case is so brutal, or so special, as I've seen more freedom with someone who is nonverbal, in a wheelchair, with cerebral palsy, severe autism, severe down syndrome, or severe brain damage. The developmentally/intellectually individuals that I supported had complete and full freedom of what they wanted to do with their money, their life, and their medical decisions to the best of their personal abilities. If we had a client that was verbal and could speak up we were not allowed to do any medical procedure on them if they said that they did not want it even if their guardian said that they wanted to do it to the client. Even something as simple as a tooth extraction, the dentist would not extract a tooth if the client emphatically said no, and if they refuse to take their medications it was a simple as documenting their refusal. It was never anything forced on these individuals. I'm wondering how much of this is legal in Britney spears's case as far as forcing her to take medication and coursing her. If she is so incapacitated that she needs an executor and a conservator, then she would technically be considered a vulnerable adult am I correct? If that's the case then they are complacent and culpable and abuse of a vulnerable adult which would see jail time, heavy fines, and inability to work with people within the populace ever again
Allll of this!!!
I was a full on nurse assistant and advocate for vulnerable adults, maybe California is just 100% screwed at this point...no hope I guess...they don't see humans as individuals just as a commodity....super sad
it is all about her 600 million usd
I simply can't comprehend how any of this was even legal, I used to be heavily involved with my mom's treatment at 16 because SHE didn't trust anyone else and she was right to do so, if it were up to my father, she'd still be in the hospital because he was angry at her schizophrenic outbursts. The doctors didnt listen to him even though ~legally~ my dad was the one to be calling the shots, because my mom could advocate for herself. The treatment >worked< because the doctors respected HER.
I cant imagine how traumatizing it must be to live at the mercy of a person that doesnt care what you want and not even what you need.
A lot of it has been done in the dark, I think the money has dazzled anyone her father has waved it at.
If everything was on the up and up, these hearings would NOT BE SEALED. All Britney needs is a badass accountant who will put most of her money in a trust for her kids, invest the rest, give Brit an allowance, and fire all these freaking parasites attached to her.
Exactly this!!!
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I'm a little confused on this portion, was everything going to be open to the public but then after she testified the next day her attorney stated they should be sealed?
Yes!!!!! That’s all she needs
It took him long enough. For the past FOURTEEN YEARS Britney's dad has pretended his daughter is a drooling fool who can't be trusted to wipe her own butt, and now that the world is watching he's all of a sudden he is conserned with Britney's wants and needs
he cares more about the money than he ever did his daughter and thats the problem
Follow the money….always.
@@TheEmilyDBaker yup
From day one 2008 after her 72 hour hold he took control and it’s said he repeatedly yelled at her and said “I’m Britney Spears not you”
@@sandraalves8971 yup and because he has alcohol issues he shouldnt be involved
There should be investigations about everything, including financial.
I want the money followed. This is more of the issue than anything. As I've continued to say, this is at the very least financial abuse.
After reading the New Yorker article which contains quotes from people who were actually involved in setting the conservatorship up, I feel physically sick. This has never, ever been in Britney’s best interest.
Her father has completely and utterly abused her. The verbal abuse mentioned in the article alone is harrowing, the rest is incredible. How this was allowed is beyond me.
She was a modern day slave. In every possible way down to her uterus being controlled by her father. It's beyond terrifying.
Am I alone in wanting to offer Brittney a way to escape?
@@lindamonroe8 no. Seriously, since we don’t have the reach, I’m
Hoping someone powerful comes to her aid.
Anyone remember when Britney went on Carpool Karaoke? It was a good few years ago, and at the time Britney mentioned that she wanted another child then, didn’t she sing “all that she wants is another baby”. Her dad would have been the conservator then…
Totally forgot about that!
I just watched that again 2 days ago...it was very interesting, given what we now know...I feel so very bad for Britney, She doesn’t deserve to be treated this way
It was 4 years ago, so dad was most definitely the conservator of the person at that point!
Have been thinking about that for days...thank you.
All this stuff with Britney has taught me is that conservatorships should be much more difficult to obtain and should be more tightly controlled. And I think that there should always be an outside party to evaluate that isn't in any way affiliated with the conservator
i wish you could be britneys attorney. she needs and desrves someone like you.
Shoutout to Emily and Mods pulling some insane hours these last couple weeks!! All my love and gratitude! ✨💜
Have you noticed that when Emily says on Coffee and Cursey Words that its going to be a light week... things pop off in several cases at once?
@@kcollins706 I mean that happens to me very often in my life. Where I think "it's going to be a light week" then the roof just drops🤣.
Yes!!! Ty mods and Emily for keeping us informed with all the fuckery this week!!
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@@kcollins706 I’m never going to say that again. Every time I do shit pops off….
I think daddy dearest is just trying to save his paycheck. But yeah, an investigation is a good thing either way.
I don't think he really cares about being a conservator over her but only of her money
He needs control over her to make her work and get $$
i disagree...Jamie Spears is one sick fuck. he controls even how many soda's she has a day and what/how much she eats.
Oh yes he does, he just can’t anymore. He’s trying to hang on to the estate and avoid a financial investigation and blame it all on the current conservator of the person. Ethically, I don’t know how he was awarded both to begin with as they both form a conflict of interest to fulfill those duties. His relationship with her from her speech should be enough to dismiss him for conflicts of interest. He shouldn’t be involved in any way at this point. This investigation hopefully opens the door to more in the future into his. The state of California is insane. The fact that this has been going on this long and she can’t chose her own attorney or know her rights to petition is so insane! The system failed her, she was their responsibility to look after. Her court appointed lawyer is a tool at best and more than likely a co conspirator of dad spears. Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if judges and lawyers made shady back room deals to begin with. I’m revolted by all of their abuse of power and trust.
This all needs to be scrapped and looked into by new lawyers, new financial managers, she needs to have all drugs withdrawn under oversight by new medical doctors and a reassessment by those new doctors, that IUD needs to be removed, forced sterilization is grotesque. Any one pulling "wages" from her estate should have said wages based on a regular 40 hr work week hourly rate or yearly salary depending on how said employment would be paid, no more, no less. Anyone getting money from her estate should not have a say in her conservatorship as they are not objective. And no one in her family except her children should be getting a dime otherwise.
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Years ago Britney said she wants a baby girl because she wants a friend, which I found so sad (& not the best reason for having a child though she'd definitely love a baby & be a very caring, well intentioned mom, probably with help), to which my older cousin, a lawyer, immediately said "She's not allowed." It seems through the conservatorship or keeping Britney from knowing the facts, she was stopped for years from conceiving. There are many who weren't at all surprised by her comments about forced birth control.
She was also getting less custody of her boys.
My question is if she's allowed to visit her children when it's not her time to have them or if her ex-husband is allowed to bring them over to her when it's his time. I think it would have been nice for her.
What's the reason she has so little custody? I understand from former years, but does that keep going? Is she assessed? Has she tried for more? Is she allowed? Does she know she's allowed to try?
I think her dad just puts it like this...if you dont do this you cant go here. If you dont take this medicine you cant do this. So on paper she has a lot more freedom than what she actually has as far as her dad goes.
All of this. I greatly feel she has been misled for many years. "Don't wanna tour? Fine- don't get to see your kids"
"go against us, you'll never see your babies ever again"
Yes, apparently seeing her kids and her boyfriend are held over her all the time for just about anything and it seems like Daddy is in on it with Ingham and the others. They all meet to decide how to screw her over and keep her in this so they keep her money.
Right. The thing that he holds over her head are her CHILDREN. The love she has for them (because it's normal!) is the weapon he uses time and again to manipulate her. That's how he got her to sign off on it to begin with. Since she married k-Fed and had kids, he has been inching his way into total control. None of this happened overnight. It's just that nothing she gave her parents (millions!) was ever enough!
This has made me stop and think about the thousands of other voiceless, non famous people feeling like modem day slaves in their own conservatorships. We need to take a serious look at ALL individuals in these arrangements.
Yes, disability rights advocates (disabled themselves) have been talking about how this should be used as an case to stop abusive conservatorships. Unfortunately, I've seen many saying they did this to her because she is a woman and to a disabled woman.
I'm honestly tired of hearing James Spears wasting the courts time and effort and Britneys money on contestant court hearings.
and the nasty rhetoric from James Spears attorneys in filings
@@melissaroe3639 Indeed.
Thank you for helping me understand all of this. So much BS on the interwebs! Your input is extremely helpful 💛
She is the best!
I have no idea why conservatorships like this dont rise to the federal level as civil rights cases. States have the right to grant their citizens more rights than the constitution, not fewer.
That's what I was thinking. A higher court needs to intervene
This 100% I remember Emily answering someone's question about federal oversight and I clenched my teeth a little when she started her answer with something like, "well, it's states rights. I don't think the federal government should be telling states how to manage themselves," (I'm paraphrasing, it's in the Friday night live stream) and my top about popped at the slight defense of them not being federally regulated. No ma'am, stripping a person of their constitutional rights should 100% be _critically_ regulated by a federal authority for consistency and oversight. If this Britney conservatorship has made one thing abundantly clear, it's that states cannot be trusted to administer conservatorships (or similarly called things, depending on the state) in a fair, equal, and well monitored manner. I'm all for states rights; handle your taxes, legalize gambling or don't, legalize weed or don't etc, but when the most basic intrinsic personal freedoms are on the line, you don't leave that shit up to whatever the state thinks is a good way to do it. This whole shitshow brought an ignored, rotting, festering problem right into the spotlight, and it needs to change. I'm just sad that it took someone as big as Britney for anyone to listen, and that she's had to endure this, because nobody listened before.
@@Amarianee AMEN!
@@Libra8410 Yes, its insanity. I honestly begin to believe that the states stand to make money in these types of arrangements to the point they turn a blind eye. The Stan Lee conservatorship was nearly as heartbreaking. Due to the successful reboot of the Marvel franchise he was just getting out from under his daughter and who ever it was that he referred to as "her goons" and then he died. The next day she had his collection up for auction.
The answer to this is in the NYT (Ronan Farrow) article. Britney also mentioned it in her testimony. Every time she got her own lawyer, one of which tried to get it federally acknowledged, was threatened and fired under the 'rules of the conservatorship' (it's been declared that she can not appoint her own because that would be a 'decision' that she has no right to). The second lawyer walked abruptly with a very strong statement, suggesting to me that he was threatened.
The five dislikes are from Jamie Spears and lawyers.
Doesn't the fact that in her statement she said she didn't know she could petition to end the conservertorship says enough about her lawyer? ...
Yup and her father too because he specifically chose those lawyers who would gladly violate their oath and conspire to keep Britney under the conservatorship. Jamie outdoes himself.
@@ellemarr7234 I remember watching a old documentary where she had to borrow people’s phones to call and see if she could end it.
Exactly. What's going on with her appointed lawyer? I don't believe he's interested in Britney's wishes at all. I cannot believe she's been denied access to choose her own lawyer. Is that not a basic basic basic part of our "justice" system, regardless of whether she is in a conservatorship or not, to be able to choose a lawyer?? (in fact, it seems even MORE important that she has someone advocating for her that she chooses BECAUSE she is under conservatorship)
@@BrainSturgeon Well it looks like her lawyer, Sam Ingaham had 10,000 new reasons *each week* to keep Britney under the conservatorship. Since January 2008. That’s roughly $7,000,000! Jamie Spears / the whole damn family might end up being the most evil Hollywood family ever.
How nice! Brittany gets to pay for the attorney that filed this. She gets to pay Jodie's lawyer for the response. She gets to pay her personal attorney Sam to respond. Conservatorships ARE AWESOME! $10,000.00 LATER
Remember how the public went after Britney for wasting tax money when she was taken to the hospital? As if it was her fault 95% of the first responders that showed up weren't needed.
Certainly all these people she employs pay taxes on that income.
No telling how much money she has generated for California.
What would be his income if he did nothing tied to his daughter? Idk but to me that’s an important thing to consider regarding why he is so adamant on keeping this up.
Oh follow the money for sure. I would guess he has made enough off Britney to live off the interest of his investments.
Why is there so little common sense applied to court decisions? From March to November 2009 Britney has been performing world wide, showing her competency in that she was able to practice, choreograph, and perform. At that time, at least, conservatorship of her person should have ended and a financial manager appointed to help protect her from money grubbing predators. No common sense applied in her case.
Rich people don't pay their water bills. They hire people to go and do all that. So yup this should have NEVER gone this far.
It all sounds like it’s going to be a long winded, frustrating and fully contested battle to me. I just hope Britney is allowed a decent lawyer and has the strength to see it all through. Give this woman her damn freedom, stuff the paperwork and legal battles it’s all just a money making scam the whole thing
By the time they are done Brittany won't have any money her dad will say "Ok you can take care of yourself now!".
If the Dad Spears is saying that he has been cut off from all communication with Brittany how can he effectually operate the estate in the way she would want to... how can she agree to contracts, tours, etc.? I'm also curious if Dad Spears is asking to do away with the conservatorship of the person why is he not asking to have the conservatorship of the estate evaluated? Is this a look over there Jodi is the bad guy not me?
Yes, he's trying to blam Jodi for the medical things, however he is the one who is in charge of the money paying for it. So he is still controlling everything in a way just not on paper.
@@brittneyshane6756 If she needs medical care, he really can't say "no" without problems for him.
@@SandfordSmythe for the extreme stuff ya he can't, but for things like the IUD, her meds, drs, treatment centers, etc he can. That's also why she can't pick her own attorney, she already has tried in the past. I read somewhere that Jodi has sent paperwork to the court talking about it.
She doesn’t have the right to make the decisions about the business he makes all of those without her input. There was a filing a while back when Ingham objected to the new business manager. Dad Spears response was essentially - she doesn’t have the right to know or give input on her business manager….it’s wild.
@@TheEmilyDBaker it really is wild. The thing that got me the most was when Watt(I think that's his name) was asking for a raise and in his statement said and I'm paraphrasing "Britney's progress and income makes for a lucrative business" or something along those lines. He gets the ok then he bails out because he didn't want to get debarred. I believe this was after her being sent into treatment for those 4 months after she canceled her 2nd vegas residency.
Britney needs to be her own person. Even if she is messed up. That is the only way she will get better, or worse, but her only chance at getting better.
This whole thing feels like damage control - they hoped no one would really notice all the questionable and dodgy shit going on. They did the 'look shes unwell and doing crazy stuff' excuse. i'd do crazy shit too if I'd been worked to exhaustion for years to pay for everyone elses lifestyles.....
It feels like Jamie has realized he’s put himself in a position where he can’t dodge the bullet but he can redirect it to his foot.
I feel like even though he legally has no control over her person, that doesn’t mean he isn’t behind the scenes threatening her (my opinion) while still being in control of her money.
Am I the only one that found it strange that the dude she was engaged to was appointed co-conservitor at the time. Her dad was cool with them getting married and cool with this dude also having control over her? Maybe I'm just making own conspiracy theory over here but I just found that to be veeeery sketchy
Like she was that dude's property and could do what he wanted to her.
@@jerijenee no, like her dad really liked him, maybe their interests (money, etc) were aligned so Jamie was cool with him marrying Britney. Maybe the guy she's with now doesn't get along with Jamie or Jamie doesn't like him so he's stopping her from getting married. Does that make sense? I just got off work, my brain is tired lol
Yep, that fact is truly outrageous to me that a court would allow a boyfriend to be a co-conservator of his girlfriend for any length of time. It screams conflict of interest and it reinforces to me that conservatorship in general is unbelievably vulnerable to abuse, especially when the person is wealthy.
@@BrainSturgeon 100% agree
@@Sabrina_116 agree
Thank you for keeping your thumbnail classy regarding this. It's bugging me that others do not.
I am wondering if there's talking and negotiations going on behind the scenes? 🤔 By the way @Emily D Baker, apparently Britney called the police the day before the hearing to report abuse. There's also a lengthy New Yorker article that's pretty bad sounding.
Physical abuse? By whom?
Do you have a link?
That'd be great except she's been declared "unstable". Unfortunately, depending on the judge, the collective "everyone" could say, " That's one of her irrational episodes when everyone is against her" or "She has this whole 6/23 grandstanding event plotted out. Come on, Your Honor, I'm sure the Court sees through such a child-like plan." (Manipulating the Ct to respond saying "yes" or be saying, "I don't see anything childish.")
I wonder if she's done this before (made a 911 call).
@@stephanieburgess8217 the conservatorship abuse, everything she spoke of during court.
Emily, I have a question - in the case of James Spears death, because he has the control of the estate/finances, what would happen to Britney’s money? Is Britney allowed to see her own finances? Would she know how much money is, say in her primary bank account? Also, because Britney has shown her ability to work, put on a Vegas residency and have the ability to memorize choreography, execute many intricate moves, give hundreds of performances, record music, being on tv shows, and arguably make millions of dollars - would those circumstances add to her argument to show she’s a capable person? I’m not sure who would use those circumstances in her favor.
- I’m curious as You can replace James with any other conservator and Britney with any other conservatee.
This!!!!! I was also thinking the same things.
Jamie Lynn was named the beneficiary to control her Money when he dies
@@bethanychristensen200 disgusting
5:06 There is a typo in this. They forgot to add the word money to the end of this sentence. It should read "However, he is concerned about the management and care of his daughter's money." He doesn't give a damn about anything that happens to Britney as long as he has his talons in the money she rakes in.
Britney needs a high profile feminist lawyer like Gloria Alred to step in and represent her- this is a human rights violation.
She does but they won’t allow it .
@@zoeblaster if the lawyer works pro bono, how can they stop it?
Being disabled when you have a controlling, abusive family member is a constant battle for autonomy. I’m not even mentally vulnerable, my disability is entirely physical but the system makes it so easy for me to lose all my rights. I’m so sorry and angry for Britney, this shouldn’t ever have happened to her, but I’m glad it’s bringing attention to these laws. I am noticing that people seem to be seeing this as a one off, but it’s not - this is what it is to be disabled. The law should protect us but it does the opposite.
@Lexie I met a girl who was paralized in early 20s. So I researched what is life like. Omg I never had a clue about daily elimination issues. What a hell. Noone talks publicly what its like to depend on family and/or paid care helpers to deal everyday with these private, intimate needs. One must need great internal emotional strength to maintain dignity and self respect to accept this dependence on others. I dunno what your personal situation requires..but whatever it is..wishing you lots of good days and happiness. Hugs.
@@raffila Thank you so much for your kindness. You don’t know how good it is just to hear someone say they stopped to think and to research about what life is like for people like me. Wow. The vast majority just shut their eyes and stick their fingers in their ears until we go away.
I’ve got a hundred and one elimination and personal hygiene stories that could make your hair curl! I try to see the comedy in these things publicly, but tbh inside I’m screaming. To not be able to care for yourself and do simple, private tasks at the age of 37 and to have to employ people to help and just to go from one useless person to another who takes advantage, to another who walks out and leaves you in danger, to another who steals your oxycodone…. I could go on. It’s mortifying. Dignity is the first thing to go, the very hardest thing to retain. All while having a family member filing false police reports and trying to legally take control of your care and act as your representative against your wishes so they can force everything you wish to avoid and refuse to happen… it’s just relentless. I don’t know what happened to the woman I was, I don’t recognise anything about the person who is left behind. I wish their was a way of guaranteeing people in my situation some proper legal representation, medical advocacy and support. A lot of us desperately need it.
@@Grimalkins Sadly I know what its like to "lose yourself" and to fight battles for understanding by community. 40 yrs of it. If I went into details, same story of crying on inside, cheerful jokes on outside. Even those who truly want to help, to make change get conflucting advice from experts. If you goto IEP meets, the annual school meet for teachers, special ed educator and parents..omg..the crazy mix of sensible solutions and ignorance/stupidity. I try not to be cynical but one year I was at my own school, not as parent but as community outreach advocate person...I listened to parents of regular kids praise themselves for how they welcomed 20 wheelchair kids. Integrated them. They patted selves on back so hard, I finally lost it and said.."raise your hand if you invited 1 of the special needs kids to your child's birthday party." Total silence, zero hands raised. 25 yrs ago. Today, if I went to a school where they held a similiar end of year assessment with 25 school parents in room, I truly believe I would get zero hands on same question. Even the kindest people talk a good game but don't live it. As my mom always said..actions speak louder than words. I know you still are "you" ..that special unique "lexie" gal, so while you look for youself, know that others hear your voice and hug you close, even if you cant see us, we hear you! 😘
Jamie, you need better lessons from Shaggy to deny things. This "wasn't me", isn't it.
Loooooool
Thank you for your content. I'm sick with stomach flu and needed something interesting to listen while trying not to puke.
I hope you feel better soon! Chamomile or ginger tea with lemon and honey will be your bestie while recovering.
Aw feel better soon, take care
Hi, just question - as Sam Ingham is not filing the petition, won't this be against his judicial duty? Won't he face any consequence for this?
Thanks for being a reliable source♥️
In my interactions with "the Law/Government" they always deny the first request for everything. They want ppl to go away, or prove they are sincere by filing Multiple times. Haven't you found this to be true?, in California at least I have.
That’s such a good point on this. The whole thing stinks of “let’s wait for the PR storm to calm down”...without them seemingly having any consideration for how giant this conversation has become.
The rats are jumping ship, as the saying goes. Or at least trying to.
To keep it civil im just going to say I don't like Dad Spears. I love that they are doing an investigation and I am happy he filed for that though.
I’m just worried that the investigation will be somehow corrupt as well… paid off by someone.
I was reading an article that was saying the net worth of different celebrities and Britney was on that list. It said that she was worth 215 million dollars but then this court stuff says her net worth is 60 million so which is true and where is all her money especially when her Circus tour supposedly made 131million
In addition to the PR, but ALSO didn't Brittney say that she was considering suing her family.... So this might also be trying to get ahead of that both in court of public opinion but also documented statements of denial. 🤷🏼♀️
Britney doesn't need a co-ship, she's a fully developed Adult. Whole thing is heinous. And sexist ay eff. This doesn't happen to men worth between 100 - 600 million USD.
I sure have never heard of a semi-permanent rubber being attached to none of their goobs just so they couldn’t accidentally impregnate chicks 🤦🏼♀️
Have you read Ronan Farrow’s latest deep dive into the conservatorship? It alleges at least during the beginning part of the conservatorship that Ingham reported on his client’s meetings to Mr. Spears. Curious about your take on that (I know it’s outside of the legal documents you normally break down).
I just read it great article, very thorough. It was heart breaking reading how britney had to smuggle and hide phones, and couldn't afford basic expenses with her measly allowance.
I hope Ronan Farrow investigates and speaks out more! Watch out family leaches, Ronan is a good person to have advocating for Britney!
I read the whole thing and it will probably give me nightmares tonight. :( It seems that almost everyone she close to her (perhaps excluding her crew members and housekeepers) were just looking for a way to use and utilize her.
She should play them at their own game. "You are right I am unwell, it's best I never perform again". That would give her bargaining power. UK news is saying Jodie Montgomery has resigned though?
UK has no independent mainstream media - everything printed is Rupert Murduch's own personal opinion. He's an Ozzy billionaire who has his own country at heart and seeks to destroy ours. Feelsbadman.
Thank you for the time stamp! So hard to keep track of when things are happening especially with TMZ reporting late. :/ smh
Give her her whole life back she’s a grown lady and she’s working hard for herself and kids my heart go’s out to her couldn’t imagine going through that
Thanks for sharing the update! We are all ready to free Brittany!
Britney ..and Yeah, the girl needs her freedom and some sort of normal life at long last.
Thank you Emily Baker without you I could not keep up with this case. I hope your channel grows enormously.🪄🪄
As I know there is a kind of behavior, when a guilty person actually starts the investigation by attracting Police or other related forces - to act like they have no bad intentions... I would suggest, that evidents of Britney's bad being become reach the court soon, so the Dad's lawyer might be aware. Then Dad can try to act hard attracting everybody's attention, asking for investigation, involving other specialists - do everything in his power to make it seems like it isn't his fault.
Very important question: since Britney is under a conservatorship and unable to make legal/medical/financial decisions for herself would she automatically loose custody/decision making control over any future children she had while under the conservatorship? Her ex has full custody of her other children and that decision seems to have been based off, in part, the conservatorship. Would the father automatically have the sole decision making power over the child, or would the conservatorship also have to be involved in the care decisions for the child?
I'm pretty sure custody would go the new child's dad
Thanks Emily for the information
Hi... small fyi..you keep saying june 14th 2021. Think you mean July?
I had the same question. But the document at 3:48 does write July 14, 2021 as the hearing date, so I think she did mean July.
THANK YOU for all your explaining all since Brintey's court statement! NOW it all makes mucg more sense as to what is going on legally. I have questions (teehee) about the "Investigation." What will that look like (typically) AND more importantly, Britney WILL be involved in this process, correct? Please tell me this is so, otherwise...........really how valid will an "investigation" be without her getting to speak her mind and share EVERYTHING she wants to share? Like she did in her last statement. THANK YOU again! ~~ Fellow Law Nerd.~~
This all comes down to money. Would they go this far if she never made it big and became a never ending source of income for them.? Probably not. They didn’t lock Jamie Lynn up and take over her life, take custody of her daughter and put her on forced birth control after getting pregnant at age 16. I guess that Zoe 101 money wasn’t good enough.
And for grabbing a knife behind the counter at a sandwich shop to go after someone with. Look up the video footage on UA-cam from the store surveillance
I always look forward to your professional opinion to be posted 😉 sensible and logical people are a rarity on the good ole tube sometimes 😘😘 Thanks Emily ❤️
I feel like everyone who has been paid by the estate is sus.
same
Please find the Orders. As a lawyer I’m horrified by this entire thing. My 11 year old autistic daughter seems to have more autonomy than this woman does. I’m not understanding why her lawyer didn’t advise her to bring a motion. I’m not understanding why her Order was not taken to be issued in a timely manner given its importance. How can you force a person who has been declared incompetent to work and to sign binding contracts?
Because they are in on it. The only thing that makes sense. I know you know that.
It’s kind of giving , since Dad Spears isn’t going to be in the driver seat living high off the hog he wants to send the whole PERSONAL conservatorship up in flames.
Emily, I LOVE your glasses!! Where can I get them!!!! I check all your descriptions and search for mention of them in lots of places! 😫
Realistically, I wonder if this will ever end… I feel like at best, this is years away from a favorable outcome for Britney.
I agree the court system moves at snails pace, and all parties are incentivised to keep this thing going so that they can keep invoicing. I just hope that the public scrutiny has some effect, Jamie is elderly and in poor health. There needs to be a long term plan to unwind this.
He thinks they need to investigate Jodi, they need to investigate HIM TOO!
What a POS! He’s trying to hang on to the estate and avoid a financial investigation and blame it all on the current conservator of the person. Ethically, I don’t know how he was awarded both to begin with as they both form a conflict of interest to fulfill those duties. His relationship with her from her speech should be enough to dismiss him for conflicts of interest. He shouldn’t be involved in any way at this point. This investigation hopefully opens the door to more in the future into his. The state of California is insane. The fact that this has been going on this long and she can’t chose her own attorney or know her rights to petition is so insane! The system failed her, she was their responsibility to look after. Her court appointed lawyer is a tool at best and more than likely a co conspirator of dad spears. Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if judges and lawyers made shady back room deals to begin with. I’m revolted by all of their abuse of power and trust.
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All these lawyers, reacting to Britney's conservatorship, profiting on it and not doing anything to help her is the reason why such abuse in the legal system exists.
Nope! Not this time James....no turning to victim after accountability is required. Investigate him....especially NOW the children are involved.
Have you all read the New Yorker article, Britney Spears's Conservatorship Nightmare? Wow. Just wow. It really seems this all started because her babies were taken - when she was still nursing one - and it caused such suffering and pain, to which she then wanted control, was put in a 5150 and a judge put her under the conservatorship and appointed Sam as the lawyer, over a small incident when she was understandably struggling in her mid twenties...it set he off, she kept being controlled, she kept trying different types of freedom, all used against her, and now she's almost forty years old, furious, angry, traumatized, a prisoner. She's going to get out of this. It's going to help people.
"The thing" with all these hearings, postponements, rescheduling, etc. etc. is that it allows a person like Brittany to remain virtually a slave for far too long. The delay, delay, delay, tactics allowed in our courts is a travesty.
I’m happy there is an investigation into this.
Also the ACLU offered to help Britney with this. Curious as to your take on that.
I’m just praying she has evidence and witnesses lined up to testify against her dad and the company !!
I want all judges and lawyers involved investigated because no one in their right mind would give a person with alcohol dependency that level of control over another.
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I don’t trust Jamie Spears at all.
Me neither
I never once liked him. I saw an old documentary about Britney Spears Dating 10 years ago I think, and she was as much unhappy there as she is now, plus i saw through her Dad even just a few glimpse in the video, plus there are evidence from both Britney's Exes that her Dad is controlling and manipulative. So IF this should go into a trial which it should these people better come in and testify otherwise it's not going to be beneficial for Britney she needs more people coming in to help her. And of course her entire family are useless clearly only interested in her money.
I told my husband that if I were ever forced to have an IUD and I wanted it out, you better believe I'd hand him a flashlight and some needle-nose pliers... I am so perplexed how this is legal to do to anyone. There would be rioting if they ever forced, say, Kanye to have a vasectomy or chemical castration.
....Mr Spears is simply not involved in any decisions related to Britney's personal care or reproductive issues. Oh whoop there it is!"
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But he is involved with the money that pays for it...everything goes through him, yes he is involved
Seems like Jamie is requesting investigation as quickly as he can so he can (as you said) escape the blame/press AND be the first to choose (hire) the investigators. Even IF the courts appoint an investigative team the odds that they won't be on the conservators payroll will be slim. That's how this system works and how it's gotten this far, no? If Jamie is the first to file for investigation I think in his mind, he thinks he will have control over their conclusions just like he controls the evaluations.
Thank so much, Emily, for thorough covering!
Appreciate you and your content! Making all of this understandable is so helpful.
Maybe dad Spears could start wearing a T-Shir that says….. Don’t B Mad at Me for the IUD…..I just spend the money!
She deserves a better attorney
How much is needed in an estate to be in a conservatorship? Maybe Britney needs to go broke to be free and start over.
Exactly what I was thinking too. I mean, what could they do if she decided to call it quits on everything? No more singing, concerts, Vegas, records, videos... frankly, if I was her I would just tell everyone you have bled me dry for the last time. You get nothing more bk I will do nothing more.
The concervetership isn't about the money. Brittney could be dirt pour but her father would still have complete control of her as a person
There is no minimum dollar amount for a conservatorship over finances. The conservatorship just recognizes that someone needs to help the person financially and/or to make medical decisions because they have proven they are unable to do those things for themselves. Most conservatorships are for the elderly, disabled or minors and the only income involved is social security, disability, or small support payments. This case gives conservators a bad name. Most of the time, conservators have a lot of responsibility and make nothing. I am inclined to believe there is more to this case than we will ever know. Judges require a lot of documentation to support a conservatorship. I find it hard to believe that a judge would approve of a conservatorship without any cause. Also, Britney’s dad has no authority over her reproductive decisions. That really is Montgomery’s responsibility and not his. The fact that Montgomery is trying to blame him makes me VERY suspicious of her. I have been a conservator and we were instructed to let the individual make as many decisions for themselves that they can reasonably make. Nobody really knows Britney’s medical diagnosis, nor what financial decisions she has made in the past that support the conservatorship. I think her dad is trying to preserve her wealth so she doesn’t sign contracts that aren’t in her best interest and could possibly cause legal problems for her. He doesn’t want people to take advantage of her and leave her without anything. Court oversight with a conservatorship is a very safe way for her to be protected. If anyone is trying to take advantage of her financially, that would be seen in the annual financial accounting and a judge could order that any questionable disbursement of funds would have to be returned to her.
@@katiesnudden829 Her father no longer has control of any personal/medical decisions. That is Montgomery.
Thanks for fighting for Britney. You are so kind.
Bessemer has quit. This is a very nefarious situation and Britney needs released from the cship and granted restraining orders immediately.
Thanks for the very professional analysis.
Who will pay for this hearing? Is Britney paying for her father to oppose her wishes?
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Yes, you hit the nail on the head!!!!! A lot of PR shit thing!!!!!! The most important thing is "there is NO medical diagnosis that should restrict a person's constitutional right " so, she is entitled to equal rights under the law.
Jamie must feel pretty confident he will be vindicated which is scary.
I’m up that the recording of this may have stopped her from speaking to everyone..
Someone had questioned why Brittney was not allowed to remove her IUD to get pregnant and as a Certified Pharmacy Technician Lithium is dangerous to take while pregnant for the baby and it is difficult to manage Bi Polar Diagnosis while pregnant because of the fluctuations of hormones. Women diagnosed with Bi Polar do however get pregnant and manage off medication or find other safer meds to help manage their symptoms while pregnant and even sometimes their symptoms can stabilize while pregnant. I just thought I’d throw that out there since we now know she was pulled off her medications she’d been stable on for 5 years and put on lithium pretty much overnight. Also you can’t stop any Psych meds cold turkey without a slow taper off while tapering up on a new medication. I worked in a pharmacy that saw many psych patients be treated and I saw this taper down and taper up often and in fact some psych meds actually have packets that are sold in the taper up regimine so the physician did not have to figure out how to do the taper up themselves. Lamictal for example you start with a low dose once a day for a week, then take the low dose twice a day for a week and then up to the full dose after that.
She should have a new judge. I think this court is afraid of having their pants sued off for doing this in the first place. This is so way overboard it just insane! You can fix this Emily!! Lol!!
Love the way you break these issues down!
I'm so happy people really know about this now. Britney fans have wanted her free from this for years. I hope she can:/
IUD's can last from 3-7years. Some even make you gain some weight. She would have at least 2 by now since her last pregnancy. You can take it out anytime. Her dad should be held accountable no doubt.
Revisionist History is a helluva drug, saying that as a historian.
Britany should sue these people that are steeling her money through blackmail,
Co coercion,forcing her to sexually
Trafficked and enslaved,