1988 Fiero electric conversion introduction
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- This a 1988 Fiero that wa converted to Electric in California 2012. I acquire the car recently, repaired a few parts and plan on making improvements. This is the introductory video.
Interested in converting your car from gasoline to Electric, I have a class available on January 19th in Northvale New Jersey.
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I have 2 fieros and I love them. Im also in New Jersey
What the travel range for the conversion!??? How much is cost!??? Please let me know...
What gauge monitor is that ? Can it measure motor temps? I’d like one for my golf cart.
I'm wondering if you started upgrading the power on this thing. I'm looking at maybe buying a Fiero right now (as in this weekend), and I REALLY want to do an EV conversion on it. With the mid-engin platform, and modern batteries, it seems like you could build a badass, fast car, with great range for maybe not much more than it'd cost me to drop the V8 in there I originally wanted to do.
EV swaps are super easy. MUCH easier than people think. Less work than swapping most combustion engine cars.
Now you could buy a 2nd gen leaf cradle. Mate it into the fiero cradle. Thunderstruck VCU. Lipo battery in front and rear of car. BMSs. More than enough to get it down the road.
@@chriswf well, I want it to go down the road AND be fun 😊
I did buy the Fiero, and I am contemplating the Ford crate EV motor
@@QMaverick1 it can be fast and fun. I'm all about 0-60, so they're really good at that. Lol. Depends on how much you want to spend.. but top end acceleration isn't usually that great.
@@QMaverick1 Hey how's the conversion going?
@@singletona082 sadly, I haven't had the time to work on it much. First order of business is restoring the frame and suspension, and I have a 5 and 3 year old. Hahaha...hard to make time
Thats cool.
I love it.
Have you seen the new Fieros?
They call them Corvette now.
We need an update and a price reveal
I was wondering what happened to that car, I repaired the electrical when Adam owned it, I am assuming you got it from n him. I also upgraded a 1964 Karman ghia from lead acid to lithium ion for him. Glad it went to a good owner. Glad it is still charging to I had to repair the charger once as well lol. Miss that car.
I have an 88 Formula back on the road lately, she'll need a new engine soon, any idea the overall cost for this conversion today and is there a "parts list". Thanks alot!
Great video and I know this was a while back, but how many miles on a charge did you get? Thanks Lenny
I'm sorry if I am a bit late, as this was made 3 years ago, but can someone explain to me how you can put a manual transmission in an electric car?
The stock manual transmission stays in place where it was when there was a gasoline engine. Then you take the gasoline engine out. Replace it with an adapter plate and an electric motor. In other words, the electric motor provides the horsepower twisting force to the transmission as if it was a gas engine and the use of an adapter plate which is basically the same bolt holes that fit where the bell housing was now will fit the electric motor to the transmission. The transmission does not know the difference between an electric motor and a gas engine.
Thank you
I never thought I'd hear the word "Fiero" again in my life.
I never thought I'd own a Fiero. If you look into the history, it's kind of a cool car. It was a special project with a dedicated team at GM. Is great videos online about it.
@@RonGrosinger ... and have the UA-cam algo feed me only Fiero videos for the next two months? No thank you sir. ;-) Cheers, keep the content coming.
I have a 86 gt 😁
A little surprised they didn't use the gas tank or the area where it is for additional battery capacity and range. You need to get in touch with Rich Rebuilds at the Electrified Garage and let him turn that Fiero into the Monster it should have always been.
Great idea, however I'm going to give it a try this summer. Probably upgrade the battery.
Any chance you can publish the knowledge from that book bro?
I want to start a project with a fiero and I need to gather as much information as I can about the car. Appreciate your content a lot, you should keep the car, it will surely go up in value specially if you put more love into it for upgrades. Best of wishes to you and your family, you have a nice a charisma!
It wouldn't take a lot of horsepower to get a Fiero moving, the stock 2.8 L V6 only put out 135 HP - which was underpowered. How realistic is 200 kW in a Fiero?
One weakness I think I see in the Fiero as a platform for electrification is space for batteries - the floor very low to the ground, but it would be nice to maintain the car's general weight distribution between the axels.
But the fiberglass body panels are a strength, the unibody frame is strong, and there are some nice big ashtrays in the center console ... wait, I wonder how much battery you can fit under that console where the fuel tank and transmission linkage normally are?
I’d love to have a parts list for this build 👏🏼
Me too, please.
Hi! I'm curious if you sold it. Also, do you still have the electric conversion classes? I'm in the Hudson Valley, and I have an 1989 Pontiac 6000 STE AWD I want to convert, using the parts from a 2014 Spark EV salvage title I also own. Thanks!
Hi, I still have the Pontiac Fiero Electric. Working on it to be able to publicly charge. Yes I'm planning an electric car conversion class. Send me an email to get you on the mailing list. Ron.grosinger@gmail.com
As for the Pontiac 6000, cool car, but for your first conversion do you need something simpler that has a 5-speed for a standard manual transmission. It simplifies the conversion. Feel free to get in touch to discuss your project.
Fiero's haven't seemed to hold much value but the batteries and electronics were probably costly. Sadly its hard to get the money invested out of a hobby project. Plus you made it sound like you got a deal so I'm guessing you paid less than 10K.
Well the whole Project's undervalued, it has an AC motor just like a tesla. Probably just needs upgraded batteries. This will be commonplace switching your classic car over to Electric drive.
And the car was in really good shape. Also undervalued. Sometimes great cars are undervalued until people see the value later on in the market.
In NJ, if you have QQ tags, which that car qualifies for, you only need to have one on the rear of the car.
Oh, that's cool. Okay, I think I'll do that. Thanks for the info.
Keep the paperwork that you get with the tags, the info is in there, prevents hassles from the lawman who may not know
Something i"ve always wondered about the fiero. 'Where the hell do you put anything? it has no trunk (front or rear.) Stock it has the spare, radiator and other things up front. With this More Batteries. There are no rear seats. It's 'two people sitting inside of an engine.' ther'es no capacity to carry anything.
My wife and I went Kent camping for 2 weeks in my fuel and had plenty of room for everything we needed. You just have to be creative and have a good mind for special relationships.
When the energy and power density of batteries gets much higher, there will be plenty of room for cargo.
The technology improvements in just a few years are very good. In a decade or 2, it will be phenomenal.
What a sweet ride!
Ron, looks like its been a year or more since an update. Anything new to report?
hmm, so YOU'RE the one that bought this car... I remember seeing this on Craigslist or eBay a few years back.
Yeah, I was looking for a conversion that somebody gave up on. Got it for a good price, put a little effort and money into it and she runs good. A little bit underpowered though. Planning a fix that this summer
@@RonGrosinger Did you ever end up getting more juice into/out of this lovely Fiero?
Honestly if you ever wanna sell this please put it up for auction I want a shot at it
I will make an announcement. First have to fix the charger and get it to charge publically. Probably September
Driver side deck lid louver is installed improperly
Cool car. I would buy one.
Looks nice but the bottom line is range. I would also miss the absence of A/C on 90* days. My preference is for horsepower but I appreciate the novelty of an electric Fiero.
Very cool
Hi there, looks really nice i was planning to do something like that, but how about the mileage And the power ? Top speed?
Okay currently it goes about 40 miles of range. But the batteries are now 8 years old and we're not very energy dense to begin with.
I can do about 70 or 80 on the highway. So I think it needs a little more range in a little more power. Thinking of doing an update. Stay tuned.
Can you scan the manual to look over? I would like to make the same kind of configuration and might prove very helpful to me... maybe others as well..
Sure Stan, I can give you some details. Send me your email. Ron.grosinger@gmail.com
Wow, that's super awesome. The Fiero is the absolute perfect EV conversion candidate due to it's underwhelming performance but most importantly it's awful dangerous reliability. I can't believe all of the gauges work. Would you mind posting what the total costs were for the original owner and what you paid for it? I'd love to own something like this someday (along with an EV Delorean of course).
Any progress on upgrading this thing? I'm actually buying an '86 Fiero this weekend, and am planning an EV conversion in the future
Nothing yet. Got a problem with the charger. Not charging. I will film the solution in the fall. Let me know if you need any the price for training. feel free to get in touch.
GM is selling an EV crate engine. Google it
I have seen it first-hand. Here's my video from Sima 2019. ua-cam.com/video/P_wLi_SW20E/v-deo.html
I was looking at that Fiero when it was listed. If I had a ton a free time and cash to blow I’d do a build myself.
Yeah it's amazing. I only paid 1800. But I have put another 250 into it and sometime. Plus now it needs some more work. So it's a labor of love.
@@RonGrosinger 1800?! I paid more than that for each of my Fieros in the late 90s. If you ever want to sell it, let me know :)
@@RonGrosingerwe met last year in San Diego. I was just thinking about this car again and wondered if you still have it and how it is holding up.
I sold it last February to the original owner in california. So he shipped it back across the country it's now somewhere in San francisco. I haven't checked in a while but I'll check on it soon for you
@@RonGrosingerVery cool. I love that the previous owner was missing it enough to buy it back.
this was the one on Ebay last fall? :) how does the heater do its magic?
That's right. Yeah wasn't bad. Heaters okay. Enough that you can feel it. Dc-to-dc charger was not working. That's the electronic alternator stepping the high voltage 120 ish down to 12 nominal. Basically a battery charger. I replace that. And upgraded the 12v battery.
If they ever get rid of gas powered vehicles this is my goal
can you do a convertion for my 86 feiro?
Is the car heavy with all those batteries?
Yes probably
Pretty cool. 👍
Thanks. It's a fun car.
I'll trade you 2 Fieros for this one.
First thing I saw in the underneath view…large electrical cable going through a hole in the metal…no rubber grommet, nothing to stop the cable from having the wire sheathing cut ….that’s just piss poor….👎
Agreed. Protecting all wires and cables from cuts and abrasion is very important.
Really cool....for sure :)
I want one
Ron, glad to see that you were able to get the old gal back up and running! I heard you say something about a clutch issue. I’m guessing the hydraulics are the problem? If that’s the case, the fix is easy. Go to Rodneydickman.com and purchase new master and slave cylinders. They are easy to install and will last a long time if properly installed. Don’t waste your time or money on regular parts store versions, as they are garbage.
Amazing thanks for the invite. So did you originally use the clutch? Cuz you're a directions in the last guy says that you could go clutchless. I would rather use the clutch. Are the clutch parts still in?
I’ll second the Rodney Dickman parts. I have probably 200,000 miles on my slave and master cylinders.
FYI, we started the electric conversion in my shop by pulling all the gasoline and coolant related parts out. I still have Marty’s engine and transmission, waiting to put into another Fiero.
Wow thanks for getting in touch. And thank you for the recommendation. I will definitely get some parts. So fun to connect with the people that did the original conversion.
Send me some photos if you have them of pulling the engine out.. I'm going to make a story video about repairing this car.
@@RonGrosinger ok, I'll have to dig around to see if I took any pictures. Marty might have.
@@airfiero4772 no problem, thanks for getting in touch anyway. I'll keep you posted on progress.
Great
Thanks
I wish i could win the JAG35 Ammo pack battery. I want to be a character on y'alls remake of the old 1980's TV show the A-Team but New as an A-team 2020 electric van type story Video series etc.. awesome show. ~JP
Now we just need to get you some solar panels!
Dude that would be awesome!
I don't know why they do not think about doing that? Putting solar panels on and in there EV. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. And I will do the same thing to a regular car too.
Sunlight conversion you are the third person to come up with that Idea. I thought about it when I was watching a car show and Volvo was going to go EV. so I said they should put solar panels on their EV Volvo vehicles. And I was watching a video on UA-cam about this guy who was drawing a new LAMBORGHINI Countach EV and he had solar panels on his cars. You should check it out. Just type in LAMBORGHINI Countach EV. Com. The cars are epic piece of art.
It would at least provide enough power to keep the cabin cool in strong sunlight by pulling in fresh outside air. And it could keep the batteries topped up.
$8750.00
I'm not do that to mine money on it will go down
This guy's need to go