Very difficult to say but for me, 3 players stand out and that is Adrian Mateos, Dan Smith, and upcoming Mario Mosbock ♠3 players that I would hate to have at the table would be Phil Ivey, Stephen Chidwick and probably Michael Addamo
I really like how you start the video right in the action. No intro no nothing, poker as soon as we start. I think it’s really humble and puts the viewer first.
The odd thing about this hand is that the types of hands that are best changed frequently throughout the hand. It's hard to think of a lot of hands that would want to go 3 streets. I'm no expert though; I'm quite sure Ponakovs has a better idea than I do.
I know this is old but here is my thoughts. Not a lot of 2 pairs or sets that take this line. The value range is heavily weighted towards Jx here, which means you just get snap called when its value since any J is the nuts. The bet is so polarizing he is almost never behind bluffs, since many better hands would either not choose to bluff river, or check back turn (Kx would check turn a lot and Ax would check river a lot). Therefor there is no merit to a raise, since better almost always is calling, and your almost always beating worse. Its definitely call or fold here.
Long story short, his best calls will block his most likely value like J9, the main reasons he found the call were aleks’ near pot sizings which are basically just bad because he no longer reps sets or 2 pairs and he makes his value super thin whilst his bluffs can be infinite because he may still have a 40% iso ranges trash pure in his range
Something about Ponakov's bet sizing and/or timing must have tipped him off. Or maybe this was the nth time he raised on the BB. History and observation counts. The player I fear most is the one who notes these things well, not a GTO robot.
He raised preflop and then bet half pot on the flop. Doesn't make sense on the flop with a jack. An ace may make since but why so heavy on the flop with no ace and river with a straight draw apparent? Perhaps a king? A king would've slowed down on the ace and river. His bet sizing on different rounds was sketchy.
The age of the Tell. Is a load of hollywood nonsense. Its about the cards the position and the action. I would have found him with enough jacks to fold but it makes sense when you break it down
That mind state will prove to be -EV, body language happens at the subconscious level and has proven to be very profitable for me. Had he studied the opponent he would have seen he was not comfortable at all with obvious pacifying behavior. @@Leinsterken
@@Leinsterken If anything then timing tells can be highly relevant, not reading sth into somebody's body language. However: At those stakes people tend to be able to control themselves in that regard.
Well, he's realistically representing only AJ and maybe JT. However, the sizing on the river is a bit suspicious, cause if you've got the jack, would you bet 75% if you want to get value from a pair? Plus, Addamo might be thinking that there are a lot of combos of low to mid pocket pairs which could turn themselves into a bluff. He had a comfortable stack as well. Considering that the opponent is representing a very narrow range and can have a number of hands without showdown value turning them into a bluff, and when making the call wont put your tournament life in danger, that's a pretty logical call. The main question is, is this particular opponent capable of going for a bluff against Addamo? If the answer is yes, this is a pretty justified call.
One thing I'm thinking, the masseuse really has a potential advantage to see hands close to him, and signal via massage if someone is bluffing. Not saying that happened here, but people should be weary of masseuses.
If naming on the spot, two of my most feared would possibly be in the frame when you asked. Addamo, Chidwick, and of course Phil Ivey. Might replace Addamo with Antonius if Inhad more time to think!
Mostly because of how the board changed and ponakovs didn't react. There aren't many hands that would want to bet the flop, turn, and river. On the flop an overpair, draw, or a king are probably what want to bet. Then the turn is an offsuit ace, so now most kings slow down. Only things betting the turn and flop are probably Ak, AQ, flush draws, and maybe some other miscellaneous but not strong hands. Then when the river is an offsuit 10, the draw misses and now a jack makes the straight and beats all of those aces and kings. So basically the flop, turn, and river all significantly changed which hands should be betting, so when the guy bets all 3 streets it doesn't really tell the story of a strong hand
facing a line up like this would be most fear inducing for me. if you hsve someone like Ivey at the table, sure, he is scary, but also only one guy, if he folds, he's out. if you have Chidwick, Addamo and Koon on the table, thats just beyond brutal.
@user-ib9xq9uj7s Mike *Matisow, old school player, used to be on high stakes poker back in the day with Dwan, Ivey, brunson, Elezra, Negreanu etc. he was one of the weaker players for sure
I honestly dont think ponakovs line makes a lot of sense, he only reps AJ JT for value, as most A high arent betting flop, and KJ/QJ isnt barreling huge on turn. No hand wants to go three streets except JT AJ
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Why would you isolate yourself to only a Jack on the river? Thats actually why adamo called cause there arent that many Jx which tripple barreling having an Jack.
This hand is so annoying to me. Where do you draw the line on labelling it a world class call versus labelling him a calling station? If someone made this call down in your weekly sunday major tournament most people would be like "wtf is this clown doing?" But because its in a 200k buy in it become impressive? The more I play poker the more i've found that every hand is a friggin coinflip and the actual hole cards are irrelevant. You're either going to win or lose.
Just a bad runout for his situation, hard for him to have many jacks here except specifically ace jack...he can't bet two pairs, sets etc as adamo has plenty of jacks in his flop and turn calling range, QJ, JT etc Feels bad tho to give up river though and check and lose to third or 4th pair
What is hilarious about hands like this is it’s completely unnecessary. Jus bet bet bet with nothing for no reason. Not every hand has to be played like this.
This is my thought, Alex is pushing a Kx hand on the flop. But he keeps betting after the A hits. It's almost like he's determined to sell a bluff when maybe he should have pulled back with the A or if he had an A, not bet on the flop. It's like his betting is too consistent with a lot of change on the board. Like he's selling a bluff.
Am I the only one who absolutely don't find Adamo's play impressive ? It just seems logical facing two size bets that doesn't make sense turn and river
My 3 players I fear. Is. "ME, MYSELF & I " 😮😢😅 All kidding aside. I don't fear playing anyone of course I never sat with the best. Stu Unger phil Ivey and Doyle Brunson
Not sure if it's insane reads or "best player" stuff, but rather he is lucky at this point in time because he's running good with his guesses. The best seems to be the best rarely year after year
I was about to say! I had multiple cycles: 1) Michael Addamo, apparently! (He's just clearly an actual shark.) 2) Phil Ivey, ( even more than Addamo, truly should be 1) and 3) Maria Ho? But then I thought, no. Because Fedor Holz exists. So yeah, those three would be crazy.
Ponakovs does not understand how weak his range is here relative to Addamo’s. At no point in this hand should he be barreling pure air. Addamo’s call here makes total sense if Ponakovs is punting this hard by egregiously overbluffing all his air like this.
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Very difficult to say but for me, 3 players stand out and that is Adrian Mateos, Dan Smith, and upcoming Mario Mosbock ♠3 players that I would hate to have at the table would be Phil Ivey, Stephen Chidwick and probably Michael Addamo
I’d go with the current poker go cup champion
Rampage
how is this video 6 hours old but you posted this 12 days ago? smh
@@blastmemer 😂😂
I really like how you start the video right in the action. No intro no nothing, poker as soon as we start. I think it’s really humble and puts the viewer first.
Jonathan Little, Jonathan Big and Jonathan Huge
You missed Jonathan medium
@@김성근-t2r Jonathan medium is just middle of the road, just couldn't properly polarize his bets enough to be feared.
I fear me myself and I, only person to ever talk me out of the right call or fold.
I love how on the river Addamo is looking over at Ponakovs, and Chidwick is staring down Addamo lol
The odd thing about this hand is that the types of hands that are best changed frequently throughout the hand. It's hard to think of a lot of hands that would want to go 3 streets. I'm no expert though; I'm quite sure Ponakovs has a better idea than I do.
Addamo gets all the fear equity for sure
1. Phil Ivey 2. Ivey, Phil 3. Phillip Ivey
he was the best when poker field was 10 x weaekr. no longer in goat conversation
What about the option to raise with the Q9 hand on the river??? targeting two paris, sets to fold.
Call is much more brave!)
I know this is old but here is my thoughts. Not a lot of 2 pairs or sets that take this line. The value range is heavily weighted towards Jx here, which means you just get snap called when its value since any J is the nuts. The bet is so polarizing he is almost never behind bluffs, since many better hands would either not choose to bluff river, or check back turn (Kx would check turn a lot and Ax would check river a lot). Therefor there is no merit to a raise, since better almost always is calling, and your almost always beating worse. Its definitely call or fold here.
The masseuse could see Ponakovs cards and told Michael through touch.
Long story short, his best calls will block his most likely value like J9, the main reasons he found the call were aleks’ near pot sizings which are basically just bad because he no longer reps sets or 2 pairs and he makes his value super thin whilst his bluffs can be infinite because he may still have a 40% iso ranges trash pure in his range
Excellent. Except J9 is out of the question since he's unlikely to bet it, especially bet it big on the turn
Something about Ponakov's bet sizing and/or timing must have tipped him off. Or maybe this was the nth time he raised on the BB. History and observation counts. The player I fear most is the one who notes these things well, not a GTO robot.
He raised preflop and then bet half pot on the flop. Doesn't make sense on the flop with a jack. An ace may make since but why so heavy on the flop with no ace and river with a straight draw apparent? Perhaps a king? A king would've slowed down on the ace and river. His bet sizing on different rounds was sketchy.
What gets me with this hand , is that Addamo never once looks at his opponent for a read ? Massage must’ve been too good
The age of the Tell. Is a load of hollywood nonsense.
Its about the cards the position and the action. I would have found him with enough jacks to fold but it makes sense when you break it down
That mind state will prove to be -EV, body language happens at the subconscious level and has proven to be very profitable for me.
Had he studied the opponent he would have seen he was not comfortable at all with obvious pacifying behavior.
@@Leinsterken
@@Leinsterken If anything then timing tells can be highly relevant, not reading sth into somebody's body language. However: At those stakes people tend to be able to control themselves in that regard.
@@Leinsterken well live reads still work against amateur players. just not against players of this caliber.
@@lordhuebi Thts a great irrelevant point.
Well, he's realistically representing only AJ and maybe JT. However, the sizing on the river is a bit suspicious, cause if you've got the jack, would you bet 75% if you want to get value from a pair? Plus, Addamo might be thinking that there are a lot of combos of low to mid pocket pairs which could turn themselves into a bluff. He had a comfortable stack as well. Considering that the opponent is representing a very narrow range and can have a number of hands without showdown value turning them into a bluff, and when making the call wont put your tournament life in danger, that's a pretty logical call. The main question is, is this particular opponent capable of going for a bluff against Addamo? If the answer is yes, this is a pretty justified call.
One thing I'm thinking, the masseuse really has a potential advantage to see hands close to him, and signal via massage if someone is bluffing. Not saying that happened here, but people should be weary of masseuses.
If naming on the spot, two of my most feared would possibly be in the frame when you asked. Addamo, Chidwick, and of course Phil Ivey. Might replace Addamo with Antonius if Inhad more time to think!
Johnathan Little (theorist, GTO on legs)
Durrrr (his cojones)
Tony G (his annoying table banter would tilt me)
i don't really get the tell why it's more probabel that he's bluffing..timing? body tells?? previous hands?
Mostly because of how the board changed and ponakovs didn't react. There aren't many hands that would want to bet the flop, turn, and river. On the flop an overpair, draw, or a king are probably what want to bet. Then the turn is an offsuit ace, so now most kings slow down. Only things betting the turn and flop are probably Ak, AQ, flush draws, and maybe some other miscellaneous but not strong hands. Then when the river is an offsuit 10, the draw misses and now a jack makes the straight and beats all of those aces and kings. So basically the flop, turn, and river all significantly changed which hands should be betting, so when the guy bets all 3 streets it doesn't really tell the story of a strong hand
Bc realistically only jack king of spades would play this way
Timothy Adams, Justin Bonomo and Michael Addamo.
"Now thats deeeep work being put on the traps there"
facing a line up like this would be most fear inducing for me. if you hsve someone like Ivey at the table, sure, he is scary, but also only one guy, if he folds, he's out. if you have Chidwick, Addamo and Koon on the table, thats just beyond brutal.
Addamo is going to study Rogaine Theory Optimal earlier than I expected.
I fear Myself doing something stupid.
The glance & smirk after the hand said it all
The play style and stone cold face of Garrett adelstein is what gets me shaking in my boots
@user-ib9xq9uj7s Ok Robbie
@user-ib9xq9uj7sOk Robbie.
6:24 for a second I thought that was the dealer eating and thought it was hilarious.
That's brutal! In online poker if the board is paired you would face a sequence against a full house or even quads if I may
4:01 “It’s VERY meaty!” A lot of unbridled giddiness.
Phil Ivey, Adrian Mateos
The classics Neagranu Areh and Ivey- they are ALWAYS dangerous in any game, any scenario
That massage therapist is the balls, her deep tissue technique is strongest play here
Not sure if he pots riv with less then jx
stop replaying it bruh either give commentary while paused or whiles its running
Nick Shulman, Tom Dwan and Mike Matisow. Top three poker players I fear! 😳
Mike Matisow? this has to be a joke, the guy was terrible at poker lmfao
@user-ib9xq9uj7s Mike *Matisow, old school player, used to be on high stakes poker back in the day with Dwan, Ivey, brunson, Elezra, Negreanu etc. he was one of the weaker players for sure
Matt Damon, Edward Norton, and John “The KGB” Malkovich
I honestly dont think ponakovs line makes a lot of sense, he only reps AJ JT for value, as most A high arent betting flop, and KJ/QJ isnt barreling huge on turn. No hand wants to go three streets except JT AJ
Anton Wigg. Guy has the stare of death
I think Stephen Chidwick has to be in anyone's top five. I would fear facing Chidwick, Phil I've, and Eric Seidel...and many others too!!😊
That's Phil Ivey of course...cursed auto correct!!
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I would be afraid to play against Jason Koon, Charlie carrieh, and Michael soyza
Alex's reaction is priceless.
Imagine Michael Addamo running well lmao
The masseuse is getting all up in there like swimwear
Why would you isolate yourself to only a Jack on the river? Thats actually why adamo called cause there arent that many Jx which tripple barreling having an Jack.
Only a jack bets in bvb situation? I think any two pair can barreling
This hand is so annoying to me. Where do you draw the line on labelling it a world class call versus labelling him a calling station? If someone made this call down in your weekly sunday major tournament most people would be like "wtf is this clown doing?" But because its in a 200k buy in it become impressive? The more I play poker the more i've found that every hand is a friggin coinflip and the actual hole cards are irrelevant. You're either going to win or lose.
Well the only hand that makes sense to call is missed spades
He received universe wisdom from the neck massage
Just a bad runout for his situation, hard for him to have many jacks here except specifically ace jack...he can't bet two pairs, sets etc as adamo has plenty of jacks in his flop and turn calling range, QJ, JT etc Feels bad tho to give up river though and check and lose to third or 4th pair
I'd fear Rampage - he never bluffs, especially on the river!
Not a hero call at all. He bets on QK, then again on an Ace, and then AGAIN on a one liner. There is no hand that does this for value.
J 10 would take this line.
Jx of spades and KJ could also
@@Frank7489 both would go larger on the river after getting called twice.
Addamo is always getting a massage.
Fear: Adrian Mateos I believe would be tuff to have to my left, to my right for that matter
Do you smell something rabbit?
"Fear" - rabbit
Addamo, Ivey, Holz
Ivey Ivey Ivey
Bet was way too small considering how thin he was repping
Jason Koon, Isaac Haxton
What is hilarious about hands like this is it’s completely unnecessary. Jus bet bet bet with nothing for no reason. Not every hand has to be played like this.
Whoes the say he didn't see the opponents cards I don't think it was a read he went with his gut and luck
Adrian Mateos, Steve O'Dwyer, and Isaax Haxton
Ivey ivey and Phil ivey
This is my thought, Alex is pushing a Kx hand on the flop. But he keeps betting after the A hits. It's almost like he's determined to sell a bluff when maybe he should have pulled back with the A or if he had an A, not bet on the flop.
It's like his betting is too consistent with a lot of change on the board. Like he's selling a bluff.
Ivey and Dwan scares the s*** out of me
IVEY, FEDOR, ADDAMO
I strongly agree, but i would definitely argue Antoninus could fit in there.
Insane call.
Phil Ivey
Addamo has changed. He lost big part of his aggression. Maybe he became a father? 😅
I wouldn't be scared of him, I'd look to take him to value town
Am I the only one who absolutely don't find Adamo's play impressive ? It just seems logical facing two size bets that doesn't make sense turn and river
My 3 players I fear. Is. "ME, MYSELF & I " 😮😢😅
All kidding aside. I don't fear playing anyone of course I never sat with the best. Stu Unger phil Ivey and Doyle Brunson
What people dont see are the other 9 from 10 calls like this where he is wrong. So dont act like he is something special
Good vid!!! Me, me, me!!!!!
Fedor
Antonius
Ivey
Imagine a high stakes duel with Daniel Cates yikes
Jonathan Little and his two sons!
Can you add some value please
Why is there a massage therapist at the table
Stress and tension
Not sure if it's insane reads or "best player" stuff, but rather he is lucky at this point in time because he's running good with his guesses. The best seems to be the best rarely year after year
Maria Ho, Jason Koon and Fedor.
I was about to say! I had multiple cycles:
1) Michael Addamo, apparently! (He's just clearly an actual shark.) 2) Phil Ivey, ( even more than Addamo, truly should be 1) and 3) Maria Ho? But then I thought, no. Because Fedor Holz exists. So yeah, those three would be crazy.
Ivey, Hansen, Persson
Answering player I would most fear, not who is best tourney player.
Fearless
Randy just doesn’t have a clue does he
Ivy, Adamo, Negreanu
I fear J Little the most
Nice
Too good
I would fear playing against the massage girl 😢
Ivey , antonius and chidwick 100%
Addamo, Foxen, Ivey.
Nobody. I'd enjoy the challenge
Me myself and I ohhhh lol
I kid.. not sure there's so many feel players
Ozzie esp
Ponakovs does not understand how weak his range is here relative to Addamo’s. At no point in this hand should he be barreling pure air. Addamo’s call here makes total sense if Ponakovs is punting this hard by egregiously overbluffing all his air like this.
It’s not bonomo… it’s adamo lol
@@bryanreyes2865 lmfao thanks fixing that now.
Phil Ivey, Daniel Negraneu, and Nick Vertucci
Hell no with Nick Vertucci, worst player ever .
I would not fear Daniel, I would sit on the table, have a nice chat and pleasantly let him take all my chips away...
J little the goat
Q9 Baby!!!!!
Nothing but a guess
I could beat him he looks kinda scrawny.
Wait you mean in poker? Uh .... Never mind lol
TJ Clouthier
Easy read. Addamo “blocks” AQ, KQ, and QJ.
That is not how you use blockers
You will lose a lot of money doing that. Please stop