You mentioned on the pod about Addamo's precise sizing in these situations. Addamo got into actuarial studies in Australia straight out of school. That requires, elite, and I mean fraction of percent elite vs population maths ability in high school. In terms of the pure maths of his decision making and bet sizing he would probably be better than anyone else in these high rollers. This is probably a factor, among a number of factors, that make him stand out even among these crushers.
It feels like the only better hands Brewer has here are KK no spade and AA maybe occasionally he 3bets T9s-ATs and plays it this way but man oh man is it a tough spot
All cool... and now take the obviously harsh/excessive night that Brewer had before into consideration which shows on his face... maybe it's not too complicated to put the pieces together
The problem here is brewer is likely raising adamos flop raise not enough and also raising his turn bet not enough which means addamo can both raise his bet on the flop and bet turna lot wider than equilibrium. It is very difficult to find the right raise frequencies in those two spots.
Watching the turn pre-commentary, I was thinking the optimal choice from Brewer was to shove because there are way too many bad river cards that can come. I realize the downsides - you are never getting called by worse and unlikely to fold out anything that has you crushed; but it just feels like the best choice to me.
They started 200 BBS deep so calling flop with the intention of check jamming turn isn’t such a great idea. Addamo not only never calls with worse in that scenario, but he just gets to play perfectly (call with Tx and fives full, fold bluffs). QQ definitely has bad clarity across rivers here but doesn’t warrant a check jam on turn.
If Adammo has the ten then all the money is going in because Brewer really has to call, so going all in after Adammo bets 32k on turn is best option to deny equity. I know some will disagree but we all play different. peace.
Just because a bluff worked doesn’t really mean it’s a good one. Like what’s the *real* difference between this and a punt? Brewer has all the AK and AA here. Even a hand like AQss and A5ss. Addamo also has one of the worst hand to bluff given he blocks brewer from having A4-3, so all of brewers Ax are high. The bluff here just seems like a punt. It’s basically hoping brewer has KK-QQ-JJ. That’s it. Addamo is saying he has a Tx? But flopping trips is really hard. Clearly brewer didn’t think he had a Tx since he kept calling. So the Ace? What car does ADDAMO have? AK? AQss? And that’s it. If he had a lower ace, he shouldn’t be jamming since brewer can float on a AK on that board to the river.
Check showing the turn is okay-ish, but 3betting the flop is way better according to GTO. The way solvers construct ranges nowadays, there are many hands that raise on the flop for equity denial or as a bluff (like 87 of diamonds or 44-88) that we crush with our overpair. So while it might seem scary, 3betting QQ or KK on the flop is the preferred way to play by the solver. Knowing how wide Addamo is compared to more GTO players, that makes 3betting more profitable (and the fact that QQ block QTs that's in Addamo's range). But what's scary about this is that it still forces you to play huge pots early on against Addamo, which is not what anyone is looking for in these high stakes tournaments. Regarding the fold on the river: Addamo has just a massive range advantage by the river. Not only does he have a decent amount of Ts (one combo of TT, a couple of AT, KTs, QTs which we block two combos of, JTs, T9s) and other hands that beat us on the flop (AA, 55), he can also have turned a boat or hit an A wirh a nut flush draw) that he feels obligated to bet. That is a loooot of value, so ee cannot call too wide here, even against someone that we know can have a lot of bluffs. Plus we can have a lot of those hands ourselves, so we are really not that high in our distribution and we don't really have any relevant blocker/unblockers with the queens. We just have better hands to call with (I'd set my treshhold at any Ax of spades I get to the river with)
@@mikegoodwin5951 care to elaborate? And keep in mind I'm not pretending to be even near the level of play of those HR crushers, so of course everyone that's competent in these games would crush me. Is there a flaw in my argument or what did you mean with your comment?
@@mikegoodwin5951 "these people" are the best players in the world, so I suppose their decisions against Adamo can't be that far off, but I see what you mean
@@tomcads1604 Is that who hes crushing tho? Like whos his opponent in this hand? I never heard of him. Btw Addamo uses zero live reads which is interesting. Kinda hard to be the best live tournament player in the world without utilizing live reads. Im suspicious of Addamo actually being number 1.
Hello Poker Guys, what are your hendon stats? It seems odd to me that people are putting educational/ training videos (not just in poker, but in general) without any advertisement about what qualifies them to speak authoritatively on the subject. You guys have any bracelets? major tournament wins? HighstakesDB online profiles? It just feels very odd couple of guys with zero credibility just decided to make videos talking about poker blabbering some terms they heard / read without knowing what they mean.
What qualifies them is they took the time to put it together. If you think better is out there, create it. Or stop assuming you are the best, when you cant be bothered to prove it.. Yet another genius, in his own head...
@@kingsally2864 it doesn’t happen enough imo. I think you need to check value to him a bit more often and then just close your eyes and call down. In this hand I think you have to call on all non spade turn/rivers.
There's numerous online hands where they station him and run into it. Bencb has been involved in a lot of hands where he "had to call" and Ben was then busted as a result. Addamo is just ahead of the curve currently vs world's best. Great player and a lot of fun to watch, also a gentleman who reps poker really well.
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 no they've caught onto him which is why he's no longer dominating. People just started stationing him more and raising him more and he has been completely ineffective since the change.
Poker players like Addamo gets away? Because of stupid players, so happen just had the money. One of the reasons not a lot of Asians plays poker anymore? We can win big for the shortest time in Baccarat. Sitting down for hours in a tournament going back and fort for what?
You mentioned on the pod about Addamo's precise sizing in these situations. Addamo got into actuarial studies in Australia straight out of school. That requires, elite, and I mean fraction of percent elite vs population maths ability in high school. In terms of the pure maths of his decision making and bet sizing he would probably be better than anyone else in these high rollers. This is probably a factor, among a number of factors, that make him stand out even among these crushers.
It feels like the only better hands Brewer has here are KK no spade and AA maybe occasionally he 3bets T9s-ATs and plays it this way but man oh man is it a tough spot
All cool... and now take the obviously harsh/excessive night that Brewer had before into consideration which shows on his face... maybe it's not too complicated to put the pieces together
Excellent Seinfeld references. When Adammo shoved on the river, it moved. Adammo was like, no realized equity for you! He stole that marble rye!
The problem here is brewer is likely raising adamos flop raise not enough and also raising his turn bet not enough which means addamo can both raise his bet on the flop and bet turna lot wider than equilibrium. It is very difficult to find the right raise frequencies in those two spots.
Watching the turn pre-commentary, I was thinking the optimal choice from Brewer was to shove because there are way too many bad river cards that can come. I realize the downsides - you are never getting called by worse and unlikely to fold out anything that has you crushed; but it just feels like the best choice to me.
They started 200 BBS deep so calling flop with the intention of check jamming turn isn’t such a great idea. Addamo not only never calls with worse in that scenario, but he just gets to play perfectly (call with Tx and fives full, fold bluffs). QQ definitely has bad clarity across rivers here but doesn’t warrant a check jam on turn.
Definitely the best choice, shove once Addamo bets 32k
If Adammo has the ten then all the money is going in because Brewer really has to call, so going all in after Adammo bets 32k on turn is best option to deny equity. I know some will disagree but we all play different. peace.
A live exploit would be betting the same size on the turn as in the flop is pretty weak.
then its a betting exploit not a live one ...
2008 poker is back!
Just because a bluff worked doesn’t really mean it’s a good one. Like what’s the *real* difference between this and a punt? Brewer has all the AK and AA here. Even a hand like AQss and A5ss. Addamo also has one of the worst hand to bluff given he blocks brewer from having A4-3, so all of brewers Ax are high.
The bluff here just seems like a punt. It’s basically hoping brewer has KK-QQ-JJ. That’s it. Addamo is saying he has a Tx? But flopping trips is really hard. Clearly brewer didn’t think he had a Tx since he kept calling.
So the Ace? What car does ADDAMO have? AK? AQss? And that’s it. If he had a lower ace, he shouldn’t be jamming since brewer can float on a AK on that board to the river.
Check showing the turn is okay-ish, but 3betting the flop is way better according to GTO.
The way solvers construct ranges nowadays, there are many hands that raise on the flop for equity denial or as a bluff (like 87 of diamonds or 44-88) that we crush with our overpair. So while it might seem scary, 3betting QQ or KK on the flop is the preferred way to play by the solver.
Knowing how wide Addamo is compared to more GTO players, that makes 3betting more profitable (and the fact that QQ block QTs that's in Addamo's range).
But what's scary about this is that it still forces you to play huge pots early on against Addamo, which is not what anyone is looking for in these high stakes tournaments.
Regarding the fold on the river:
Addamo has just a massive range advantage by the river. Not only does he have a decent amount of Ts (one combo of TT, a couple of AT, KTs, QTs which we block two combos of, JTs, T9s) and other hands that beat us on the flop (AA, 55), he can also have turned a boat or hit an A wirh a nut flush draw) that he feels obligated to bet.
That is a loooot of value, so ee cannot call too wide here, even against someone that we know can have a lot of bluffs.
Plus we can have a lot of those hands ourselves, so we are really not that high in our distribution and we don't really have any relevant blocker/unblockers with the queens. We just have better hands to call with (I'd set my treshhold at any Ax of spades I get to the river with)
And that analysis is exactly why Addamo crushes people like you.
@@mikegoodwin5951 care to elaborate?
And keep in mind I'm not pretending to be even near the level of play of those HR crushers, so of course everyone that's competent in these games would crush me.
Is there a flaw in my argument or what did you mean with your comment?
@@tomcads1604 Youre saying to overfold on the river against Addamo because he has "alot of value". Thats exactly why Addamo crushes these people.
@@mikegoodwin5951 "these people" are the best players in the world, so I suppose their decisions against Adamo can't be that far off, but I see what you mean
@@tomcads1604 Is that who hes crushing tho? Like whos his opponent in this hand? I never heard of him. Btw Addamo uses zero live reads which is interesting. Kinda hard to be the best live tournament player in the world without utilizing live reads. Im suspicious of Addamo actually being number 1.
Is the mullet still a thing? 😆🤣😂😹
Only amongst Joe Dirt fans.
It’s not worse to have queens with a spade since Adamo should give up qx of spades on the river since he blocks folds
What hes doing is not that complicated. But it takes a speciric skill set to pull it off that few people have.
Hello Poker Guys, what are your hendon stats? It seems odd to me that people are putting educational/ training videos (not just in poker, but in general) without any advertisement about what qualifies them to speak authoritatively on the subject. You guys have any bracelets? major tournament wins? HighstakesDB online profiles? It just feels very odd couple of guys with zero credibility just decided to make videos talking about poker blabbering some terms they heard / read without knowing what they mean.
100% agree, announce who you are, before you start talking about one of the most complicated subjects in poker and the very best players in the game.
What qualifies them is they took the time to put it together.
If you think better is out there, create it. Or stop assuming you are the best, when you cant be bothered to prove it..
Yet another genius, in his own head...
In high stakes, just station people
Nice video
Bad river fold.
Brewer make a mistake folding there.what he thinks adamo has?????
He’s the loud talker.
What are people going to start just stationing this guy?
you mean like when Dnegs did with AKo only to be drawn dead vs a flopped straight? you act like it doesn't already happen
@@kingsally2864 it doesn’t happen enough imo. I think you need to check value to him a bit more often and then just close your eyes and call down. In this hand I think you have to call on all non spade turn/rivers.
There's numerous online hands where they station him and run into it. Bencb has been involved in a lot of hands where he "had to call" and Ben was then busted as a result. Addamo is just ahead of the curve currently vs world's best. Great player and a lot of fun to watch, also a gentleman who reps poker really well.
He's exploiting peoples weaknesses. He is good at knowing who will and won't do that. And when.
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 no they've caught onto him which is why he's no longer dominating. People just started stationing him more and raising him more and he has been completely ineffective since the change.
What 10x ever raise in position here? This is a pure punt fold. Especially against Adamo. Feels like a fist pump snap call windmill
Without specifying ranges & bet sizes, solver analysis is useless…
Poker players like Addamo gets away? Because of stupid players, so happen just had the money. One of the reasons not a lot of Asians plays poker anymore? We can win big for the shortest time in Baccarat. Sitting down for hours in a tournament going back and fort for what?
If you are non-gendered, can you ever make a binary decision bet? I think no matter what you do, it will be a non-binary act.
Gender bender 😂
Amazing player.. absolutely fearless..