@@untouchable360xpayout is a prestige? The one that you have to beat the best of the best.. wsop deluted its brand with 1000 bracelets I dont think dealers or women only bracelet is more prestigious than triton.
Small field tournaments where everyone is chasing super small edges don’t do much for me as a fan of poker: I think Triton specifically represents a bubble where all the best and therefore richest players have sealed themselves out of the rest of the poker economy. Do you need more skill in these than a tournament where you have to play at 20 different tables with 200 different opponents and develop strategies to counter their specific tendencies or to play GTO knowing the other 100 players are as well because you’ve played so many hands against them specifically and letting random variance decide the outcome because your edge on the field is something absurdly narrow.
I would’ve thought A is a bad card to bluff since Brian shouldn’t be double barreling AX with polarizing turn bet. So for value we are looking at AK,Kx, weak spades…. there’s not many of those. Of course I believe Randy & JL when they say As is a good bluff card. Maybe GTO said so, but it feels so weird. Great call nonetheless.
Same thought here! 👍 - Imo, Kim should indeed have nearly as little Ax in his range as Jaffe (even more true after his polarizing 700k bet! ) ; - it comes mostly down how aggressive Jaffe would be with his draws OOP. Then again: Part of the reason why we barrel the Turn is that we can get folds from said draws, that we Jaffe expect to have, on the River on a blank. 🤔 Sounds to me like some leveling is going on.
Also Ax of spades is impossible since it is on the board. Does Kx suited limp much on the BTN preflop? Still hard to hero call here with only 3rd pair.
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I think the As being such a good bluff card actually worked against Kim in a way and probably part of why Jaffe called so quick. Even if you are beat this time, it's just too likely players at this level will bluff those "good cards to bluff". It's almost a cooler on the river with both players doing the correct play.
As is one if the best river cards to barrel: Kim is Flush heavy and jaffee’s range is relatively weak. Neither should have much Ax or Ahi diamond flush draw.
Crazy river call - he deserves the title for that alone! Also can we please get a bomb pot video at some point please? I see a lot of people whining about the increase in variance they bring, but they attract poor players to the table and encourage them to act poorly in huge pots.
@@alvaroramiro8364 if u have the flush there u would value bet… u would bet an amount that u think ur opponent would call not scare them away with a shove
If he rules out K and A from his range, opponent really only has flushes left. He has the stack to call, still chipleading if he looses and winning if he's right. Ballsy call, seeing as a flush probably plays the same way. Maybe he feels he has a skill advantage to go with it, so that losing the pot isnt the end of the world? Dunno, but a great call either way :)
All I can say was my answer was so bad I had to delete it. I don’t know GTO other than you have to three bet shove 1010 for 40 bbs effective in a squeeze spot but no other hands play this way on the chart which I find interesting. Doesnt that mean it’s exploitable as hell?
I love when someone teaches you a new concept and you think to yourself, "That makes so much sense! How come I didn't think of that?" That's how I felt about the explanation of why limping preflop in the SB heads up is a good move. That's a sign of a great teacher, Mr. Little!
The river is a great bluff card. Jaffe has effectively no Aces in his range, while Kim has many low Aces. The spade completes the upfront draw, which would very logically be a draw Kim was betting the whole way. Kim's limping range contains every combination of 2 suited cards. It's also very unlikely Jaffe has a King; he would have raised pre-flop. He doesn't have a pair of 7's or higher, for the same reason. So if Jaffe doesn't himself have a flush (which he is never folding) what hand can he have that's been calling? If Jaffe had 54 and had hit his straight on the turn, he probably would have raised the turn given two flush draws being present. My analysis based on the play is that Jaffe has a 6 or had a diamond flush draw with over cards to the 6 on the turn, and in either case a large bet should get him to fold.
I think the reason for the snap call is very simple. It's like that logic puzzle of men with dots on their forehead, trying to figure out if they have dots too. It's reverse logic. If Kim has rags, what is he most likely to do in a big pot like this? Go all in. If he has a flush, he likely make a small bet or check to entice Jaffe to go all in and not risk a fold. But Kim has no showdown value, so the only thing he has is a big bluff or he loses a big pot .
@@JeffZuccMusk Again, instead of thinking what he has, what would he do if he had NOTHING? All In. What are the odds he has a flush compared to nothing? More likely he has nothing. Does he go all in with 2s or 3s or 6s? All in is a desperation move. If he checks or bets small, you assume he has something. Because obviously he's ready to call YOUR all in.
@@YTSparty With the pot size and stack size his only options are to all in or check, regardless of his hand. With the size of his remaining stack the value bet would either be too small to be meaningful, or he would have so few chips left in his stack that he would be forced into calling an all in to realize whatever equity he might still have left.
Logically it's should be opposite, Jeff found its a good card to bluff, so he identified it's a bluff. If it was a horrible card to bluff, there is no bluff
So instead of mucking in the SB and losing $200k he decides to play 10 4 os, tell a half hearted story and eventually go All In... 🤔 Strange play. Jaffe chip leader would still have chips if he lost, so yes he would of course call. Still a top read. Kim didn't look confident.
The turn bet by Kim was the one that didn't make complete sense in the context of what he was repping. Nice job by Jaffe to recognize that he was near top of his range and Kim had enough bluffs to make it worthy of a call, particularly when he would still have a had a healthy # of chips. Playing heads up and having a 2.5:1 chip lead, Jaffe should be basically playing this like a cash game, which is exactly what he did.
It's a complete guessing game. Kim could have had two pair, a set, a straight, or rivered a small flush. He limped pre - which he is supposed to do with every hand
The kind of read that sets Jaffe apart from the rest of us. I would be afraid of the Ks at least, but like you said, a K-high hand would most likely be raised pre. Once you get there, Kim's range is 67x or 65x? Great example, Jonathan! Thank you!
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Which do YOU think has more prestige? A Triton Title or a WSOP Bracelet? 🏆
Depends on the payout.
@@untouchable360xpayout is a prestige?
The one that you have to beat the best of the best.. wsop deluted its brand with 1000 bracelets
I dont think dealers or women only bracelet is more prestigious than triton.
Triton for sure
Triton if the field is over 100 players
Small field tournaments where everyone is chasing super small edges don’t do much for me as a fan of poker: I think Triton specifically represents a bubble where all the best and therefore richest players have sealed themselves out of the rest of the poker economy. Do you need more skill in these than a tournament where you have to play at 20 different tables with 200 different opponents and develop strategies to counter their specific tendencies or to play GTO knowing the other 100 players are as well because you’ve played so many hands against them specifically and letting random variance decide the outcome because your edge on the field is something absurdly narrow.
thats an insane read in the moment. congrats jaffe
Almost snapped. Barely gave the commentators time to say why it was a believable bluff.
Jaffe is one of the best coaches at Pokercoaching. He is awesome. Glad to see him take this down.
Why don't 4,5 combos come into the conversation seems like a reasonable part of Kim's range that make it
I would’ve thought A is a bad card to bluff since Brian shouldn’t be double barreling AX with polarizing turn bet. So for value we are looking at
AK,Kx, weak spades…. there’s not many of those.
Of course I believe Randy & JL when they say As is a good bluff card. Maybe GTO said so, but it feels so weird.
Great call nonetheless.
Same thought here! 👍 - Imo, Kim should indeed have nearly as little Ax in his range as Jaffe (even more true after his polarizing 700k bet! ) ; - it comes mostly down how aggressive Jaffe would be with his draws OOP. Then again: Part of the reason why we barrel the Turn is that we can get folds from said draws, that we Jaffe expect to have, on the River on a blank. 🤔 Sounds to me like some leveling is going on.
I agree! A6 maybe? But I do think he has plenty of flushes, so i don't think it's a terrible bet. Also 45.
Also Ax of spades is impossible since it is on the board. Does Kx suited limp much on the BTN preflop? Still hard to hero call here with only 3rd pair.
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Props to Kim he has a back door straight on the flop 😂
Your boy Saliba seems to be doing very well this Triton series.
Good luck to him and hope he binks one.
Limp range on btn is also not strong. Did jaffe rng this?
I think the As being such a good bluff card actually worked against Kim in a way and probably part of why Jaffe called so quick. Even if you are beat this time, it's just too likely players at this level will bluff those "good cards to bluff". It's almost a cooler on the river with both players doing the correct play.
All of the above. A 3 street half pot bet is hard to call with middle pair.
As is one if the best river cards to barrel: Kim is Flush heavy and jaffee’s range is relatively weak. Neither should have much Ax or Ahi diamond flush draw.
Crazy river call - he deserves the title for that alone!
Also can we please get a bomb pot video at some point please? I see a lot of people whining about the increase in variance they bring, but they attract poor players to the table and encourage them to act poorly in huge pots.
When you have the nuts flush there is no reason to go all in! But sometimes you have maniacs rhey go all in with nuts flush
What are you taking about, going all in with the nut flush is the correct move.
@@alvaroramiro8364 if u have the flush there u would value bet… u would bet an amount that u think ur opponent would call not scare them away with a shove
Because it’s less likely jaffe is holding a hand like Ax and it’s a key card to spades making the flush less likely.
I keep forgetting (as a cash player) that 15 or so bb is "no man's land" for preflop raise/limp decisions bc a raise makes it so that villain can jam.
If he rules out K and A from his range, opponent really only has flushes left. He has the stack to call, still chipleading if he looses and winning if he's right. Ballsy call, seeing as a flush probably plays the same way. Maybe he feels he has a skill advantage to go with it, so that losing the pot isnt the end of the world? Dunno, but a great call either way :)
6:06 range advantage, including stumbling into a flush.
All I can say was my answer was so bad I had to delete it. I don’t know GTO other than you have to three bet shove 1010 for 40 bbs effective in a squeeze spot but no other hands play this way on the chart which I find interesting. Doesnt that mean it’s exploitable as hell?
I pair in heads up is great
I would think flush draw on the turn. Possibly two pair.
I love when someone teaches you a new concept and you think to yourself, "That makes so much sense! How come I didn't think of that?" That's how I felt about the explanation of why limping preflop in the SB heads up is a good move. That's a sign of a great teacher, Mr. Little!
Aaaand I just crushed a sit and go with that trick. Thanks again Jonathan!
Fantastic that you're applying what you learn immediately! Keep at it
Ahh I'm starstruck now! Thanks again Jonathan! Good luck at the Series!
The river is a great bluff card. Jaffe has effectively no Aces in his range, while Kim has many low Aces. The spade completes the upfront draw, which would very logically be a draw Kim was betting the whole way. Kim's limping range contains every combination of 2 suited cards. It's also very unlikely Jaffe has a King; he would have raised pre-flop. He doesn't have a pair of 7's or higher, for the same reason.
So if Jaffe doesn't himself have a flush (which he is never folding) what hand can he have that's been calling? If Jaffe had 54 and had hit his straight on the turn, he probably would have raised the turn given two flush draws being present. My analysis based on the play is that Jaffe has a 6 or had a diamond flush draw with over cards to the 6 on the turn, and in either case a large bet should get him to fold.
I see Jaffe, I click
I’m not sure most people are limping pre-flop heads up with an ace in their hand. In fact, I would say almost never.
I think the reason for the snap call is very simple. It's like that logic puzzle of men with dots on their forehead, trying to figure out if they have dots too. It's reverse logic.
If Kim has rags, what is he most likely to do in a big pot like this? Go all in. If he has a flush, he likely make a small bet or check to entice Jaffe to go all in and not risk a fold.
But Kim has no showdown value, so the only thing he has is a big bluff or he loses a big pot .
Fish mindset. Brian Kim will not bet small with strong value like a flush and big as a bluff. He will mostly go all in or check.
@@JeffZuccMusk Again, instead of thinking what he has, what would he do if he had NOTHING? All In. What are the odds he has a flush compared to nothing? More likely he has nothing. Does he go all in with 2s or 3s or 6s?
All in is a desperation move. If he checks or bets small, you assume he has something. Because obviously he's ready to call YOUR all in.
@@YTSparty With the pot size and stack size his only options are to all in or check, regardless of his hand. With the size of his remaining stack the value bet would either be too small to be meaningful, or he would have so few chips left in his stack that he would be forced into calling an all in to realize whatever equity he might still have left.
He can't check the river to entice Jaffe lol, dude was in position
Big bet = bluff. Cant argue with that logic. You should buy in to the next 50k so you can run through everyone and finish 1st.
Imagine if he could train dolphins that good
I find that a horrible card to bluff, which Jaffe correctly identifies.
yep he was basically just representing the Ace of diamonds and not much else
@@Brian_R82A flush?
The video gave 3 reasons why it is good card to bluff, am I missing something?
Logically it's should be opposite, Jeff found its a good card to bluff, so he identified it's a bluff.
If it was a horrible card to bluff, there is no bluff
And why is that? Explain
So instead of mucking in the SB and losing $200k he decides to play 10 4 os, tell a half hearted story and eventually go All In... 🤔 Strange play. Jaffe chip leader would still have chips if he lost, so yes he would of course call. Still a top read. Kim didn't look confident.
This is what happens when you take lessons from Rampage instead of JLittle
Real answer is jaffe wanted to go home lol
The turn bet by Kim was the one that didn't make complete sense in the context of what he was repping. Nice job by Jaffe to recognize that he was near top of his range and Kim had enough bluffs to make it worthy of a call, particularly when he would still have a had a healthy # of chips. Playing heads up and having a 2.5:1 chip lead, Jaffe should be basically playing this like a cash game, which is exactly what he did.
It's a complete guessing game. Kim could have had two pair, a set, a straight, or rivered a small flush. He limped pre - which he is supposed to do with every hand
The kind of read that sets Jaffe apart from the rest of us.
I would be afraid of the Ks at least, but like you said, a K-high hand would most likely be raised pre. Once you get there, Kim's range is 67x or 65x?
Great example, Jonathan! Thank you!
Bunch of poker pros in the comments