Fam u can go back to every Kendrick or Drake title for 5 yrs. They been speaking on a possible beef and the winner was always Kendrick and Ish been mad
I agree with the take Joe. “If you’re reading this it’s too late” was great because he was the main character on the whole album. He probably won’t have an album where he’s the main act no features anymore because of the numbers game.
The album is more of what I like about Drake and some of what I hate and I'll take that more often than not. I dunno if he'll ever reach his peak of NWTS, but I'm cool if he never reaches that again 🤷🏿
@@chrismabhikwa254 well that just straight up isn’t true. Kanye changes his sound and style every single album, and experiments and innovates heavily, and Kendrick is always gonna say some new interesting shit. Drake just makes the same pop rap shit and follows trends.
@@mehdihadey3258 13 Grammy’s, Pulitzer Prize winner, GKMC is still on the billboard after 300+ weeks, I’m not even gonna get into the streaming records… “he ain’t do shit tho” 🤣
@@mehdihadey3258 drake ain’t do shit to Kenny. How in the hell has Kendrick been silent for 5yrs, & still being held in high regard with damn near everyone on the planet anticipating his next album? Lol he just released a IG post a month ago and was trending everywhere 🤣 “he ain’t do shit tho”
This is what people need to understand: Everyone is not a fan of Drake and if they are, Not all of his fans are die hard fans or stans so when people say its trash, wack, mid, ok then that's what it is(to them) regardless of how many albums he sold in a week, his popularity, his fame, etc.. You can still be considered trash and that can go for any artist
One of the most boring uninspired Albums I’ve heard in awhile. Drake didn’t even try this time around. But he’ll be rewarded just because of his brand.
Exactly I hadn't watch the jbp since he did mal and rory dirty but I couldn't even finish new rory and mal because they was sucking so much meat on that album I thought joe was gonna keep it real but this man dancing like he in stomp the yard or some shit
the dude sitting on the stool is literally the only one who isnt afraid to criticize the album or even talk about it. Horrible episode. Joe trying to rebrand as a Drake groupie is embarrassing. Comparing the album with Girls Like Girls and Too Sexy on it to elite athletic performances lol
I agree with Budden it's the same thing I been saying in my inner circle. The feats are nice but honestly weaken the album. His feats on any of his albums versus the songs with just him, there's a big difference. I never cared for feats unless they were big good names, rapper rappers like Rick Ross, Wayne, Jay z, Nicki, etc.
People were calling this album of the year and even some were calling it album of the decade when it came out 😭😭😭 You got to be the biggest drake fan to say some shit like that.
Pretty frustrating watching Joe and Ish gang up on Ice every episode. He has plenty of reasonable takes even though not all of them are correct. Ish was flat out wrong on the Simone Biles' analogy and Ice was clearly right.
Yeah that analogy was trash. They just bending the rules cuz it’s Drake. If this was any other artist who just doing a rinse and repeat with their music, we would kill them. But we’re supposed to give Drake a pass cuz it’s Drake?
Anything said against Drake, Diddy, Jay Z or any ROC Nation artist is continuously shut down or and minimalised by Joe, the cutting edge to the show has been sunk in quicksand sadly.
lol they sound dumb as fuck. Drake was busy so you should take that into account when judging the album? That's nonsense. In years to come when you forget "Drake was busy" before making this album your not going to listen to it with that in mind.
So Drake said he's been losing friends and gaining peace and Joe said that as someone who spent the last year losing as many friends as possible he felt that line. Another shot at Rory and Mal.
Calling it now. Kendrick is going to drop either after Keem drops this Friday or the end of the month. AND this might be a wild one, but Cole will be on the album either a feature or producing a beat
Joe seems desperate to get in the good graces of Drake that he’s really gonna cap, have the entire episode dedicated to Drake (compared to the attention he gave DONDA), and pretend it’s one of the best albums out there. I like Drake too but I’m not gonna start pretending his shit isn’t mid when it’s mid.. This take by Joe May be a signal of more to come from the JBP, which seems to be going down. He’s already treating his NEW cohosts like trash, unaware that they’re picking it up as they go along because he broke up the old crew. Stop the tension with Ice bro. It’s obvious and uncomfortable. Art is subjective in the end so everyone entitled to their own opinion. That said, I expected someone like Joe to be a bit more honest when it comes to rap. But he can’t afford to criticize Drake considering the instability of the Joe Budden Network at the moment. Sucks. I’m still rolling to give him chances to turn this around but man, just fucking sucks.
How was it mid tho..I’m not a big joe fan but I agreed with wat he said..an how was he on drakes 🍆 he was critical majority of the episode about the shit drake shouldn’t hve did..come on u being bias rn
Joe really acting like him and Drake are close friends and he’s in his circle. To think you know what someone is doing based on social media post is delusional..
Have u not heard joe before? Did u forget he dropped 8 min diss songs cuz drake said pump it up... joe budden is probably one of the biggest drake fans out
It’s a real phenomenon now days, it’s called a “Parasocial relationship”. Just funny that “celebrities” form these with other larger celebrities too lol
It's literally just a artistic thing anybody who's truly able to read code know what's coming..artist for the most part be speaking their life and feelings if you look at their lyrics you can read and even yes their post as well do play a factor. These two niggas been throwing shots for a long ass time. Even recently Kendrick def shooting at drake. He up to something .
@@patsnation8427 The thing about Drake is his fans like diff shit. I know Drake fans who hate take care and I think that's his best album. I dunno where to rank this alb yet I still think it's too early to call it mid or trash yet.
Drake joint sound hella formulaic. Seems like he's either bored or has run outta ish to say creatively. Dude used to set the bar and now he just seems to ride waves. Back to bumping that Cole til Kendrick saves the day.
Drake is at the level of his career where he does not need to try anymore and this album proves it. I’m thankful Ye still seems to care about being creative with his music
@@DesignzRUs So are you saying Drake shouldn't be creative? And also why do you think people hated when he was being creative with More Life and Views?
THe one thing I LOVE about JOe is the honestly the realism in the conversations. These are the same chats I’m having at home. CLB was not great period.
Drake is the biggest rapper. Probably has the biggest album budget. And gives you a samey, boring album. No risks, production doesn’t evolve. Yet it still does the numbers. It’s wild.
Idk if I care about risks but with Drake as my favorite rapper I’m kind of tired hearing about how some chick didn’t text back a multimillionaire or how she curved you before you made it big. I expected some maturity especially with having a child now but his content has been basically the same since I came across his music for the most part. This album is basically a cookie cutter take from his usual formula
@@lewis.9770 hov and nas you can argue have switched up their styles. Either way it was different back then. Drake don’t get that luxury especially when there’s Kanye and Kendrick consistently stepping the game up stylistically
Joe comparing Drake to Jordan in his final years is proof that he thinks this is mid but gives him the respect off of the strength of his previous works
I'm with Joe on the Drake take. CLB didn't have enough Drizzy on it. I think he was prioritizing numbers with this album. If I ever met Drake, I would tell him that his greatest record--his GOAT masterpiece--will drop when he stops caring about numbers.
Joe is so PC now and that's why his podcast is slowly fading to black, Drake album wasn't it and it doesn't have much replay value. Kanye sonically had the better album and he used his features better than Drake 🤷🏾♂️
You are right but most of Kanyes rap lyrics ar trash im not buying an album just for the sound ... so drake lyrically leads but production wise its kanye
Kanye album was trash why y’all hyping that dude he suck and stop calling him a genius he’s a good producer who knows how to sample the right records that’s it
I be wanting to hear Ice’s point but Joe be cutting him off! Sometimes we don’t want to hear the lyrical miracle break downs, Just tell us what you thought bruh!
Ice points be way off dude to old to be put here talm bout if it ain’t killing or trap like chief keep durk and lil baby he don’t care for it ish is not a music guy you can tell. Joe is the only one who know a lil sum sum he just to intricate with his breakdown to the point they lose meaning
@@Dioslux 100% would chart. Anything with Drake or Kanye will sell even if its a complete joke with them telling you it was a joke. They could shit in a fans mouth and the fan would thank them and release a review about how great it was.
The only comment that's on point man spoke about same shit he always does caring what others think worried about his legacy and ghost writing conspiracy nothing new💯
@Silver Surfer I know he uses ghost writers it's in his head trying to prove to everyone he's his own ghost writer 🤣😂 I been telling ppl Meek lost the battle with him and drake but won the war cause no real hip-hop fan is gonna credit drake as the best rapper maybe a well rounded artist but not master of his own craft 💯
Lol I know right. People are acting as if drake has set this crazy bar as far as is albums as if he’s Kendrick or Kanye. The album was average by any standard
I think Drake needs to take a break like Hov did when he retired around '03, at the peak of his powers and as the man and just focus on adding more context to his life and give ppl the break they clearly need from his music coz as Charlamane said there's really no next level to where he's at now and so he'll get judged for being experimental with his sound(Views and More Life) and also be judged for supposedly keeping the same formula
But Kendrick do it and everyone is upset. When Kendrick disappeared He WAS the man. He beat Drake in album sales and won a whole lot of accolades then whoosh. Disappeared.
If Joe thought Views was mid then I KNOW he thinks this album is trash but won’t say it cause he wants the Drizzy interview. Also, he reaching soooo hard for him and Kendrick. That ship been sailed.
It’s called bad media YALL actong like this is how conversations normally go with friends is weird . Joe being the nigga he is surprised more of his “friends” don’t snuff him he’s cocky loud and childish on all levels
CLB was a huge disappointment, the max score is a 4/10😬 1 brownie point added for the fact that he actually dropped it. The album was boring and I skipped about 17 songs 💀
Mostly every song on the album was trash I feel , but some songs might creep up and grow on me over time , drake songs have that effect but I don’t think none of these songs will do that , they were that trash
@@ronnysloft yeah , we gotta wait for the drake effect tho and see if it grow over time , it’s still very early , it’s not even a week old yet but yeah I have for low chances of that happening for this album, it’s literally garbage more than scorpion
Nah Nothing was the same was his best work! Everything came together on that record. I do agree that Drake verses were🔥🔥 on Take Care especially the song with Rozay
This is a non-review 🤣. But to me CLB just came across as shallow. Like read the room, bruh! We're all coming out of miserable lockdowns & most folks don't want to hear him rap about how much money & strippers he has, esp when he pushing 40 & has a son. Plus he calls his son a mistake, which is sad af. One reason Donda feels so powerful is its theme of loss is really relatable to most of us now
What was the line where he called his son a mistake? I HONESTLY couldn't get thru this album cuz of how BAD it was that I don't even know what song its on as well. Genuine question of mine though. Appreciate a response if you remember 🙏🏼
I like Way Too Sexy too. I like the album. I really didn't know what to expect with this album. I tried not to come to conclusions and know that Drake is always going to be Drake. Some people seem to want him to be more like other people. Why should he when he's on top being who he is. Some of these people are criticizing when they couldn't put an album together if someone had a gun to their head.
That mans retired bro, I was 27 when he last dropped I’ll be 32 in December. That song he dropped smoking on your top 5 was not worth no the wait and sounded like 2017
I love kdot but that album charted that long cos he ain’t releasing no music bro.. us as fans obvs gonna keep going back to that album hence why it charting so long.
@@trent0184 Kendrick is good no lie but drizzy is a nightmare in his dreams.when I signed my first deal,that shit came through a fax,that should let you know how long I been out here runnin’ laps.I been doin’ this a long time bait for Kendrick then you know what happens next ohh men not again.haha
It’s Ok Joe...Drake will still be your friend but this album wasn’t it. You can’t compare him to Jay Z and say CLB was “it” especially for drake to be 34
Turning 35 next month with a 4 year old son. Gotta song named after an HBCU where he's paying a stripper for head who dontbgiy a mom and dad in her life. Can't make this shit up
Facts!! Even tho it wasn’t bad tho.. it was like #09 Drake … he hasn’t progressed or taken chances or done anything different to show us anything different or GROWTH
@@lewis.9770 They really didn’t review it in the usual sense bur admitted to it basically being a mid Drake album but Joe not critiquing it like he would others.
This album is not good. Drake has nothing interesting to say. He says he has no friends but literally has every big name featured on this album. Like who doesn't like you? Lol
Here To Let Y'all Know Drake Evolved, CLB Ain't His Best Craft, BUT He Brings Out The Best Of Who He Is...Y'all Listen To Gimmicky Clones Hence You Hear Same Shit.. NOBODY Is Like Drake. He Has Found Ways To Engineer His Sound And Artistry.I Never Understand How People Have Opinions On Stories They Ain't Never Heard Of. Kendrick, Cole And Drake Are Amazing Goats In Their Own Lane, Stop Comparing
Same sis. It's one song where Drake calls his son a mistake too... The whole CLB album just comes across as shallow fboy type ish which is mad tone deaf when we're all just coming out of lockdowns. Like read the room, bruh. It's not a time when most folks want to hear him rap about how much money & strippers he got, especially when he pushing 40 & has a baby. Donda's theme of loss is one reason it's so powerful rn
Bro is right. He wanted an organic experience from this album & in hindsight that’s how everyone should go into those types of projects. I HARED the fact that I heard parts of Jail from DONDA before I even had it.
People are just desensitized to how good of an artist drake is. The production, bars and flow were all top quality on CLB, it's just that everyone expects each album to get better because of his run beginning with Scorpion. Hopefully all the ignorant hate Drake is getting on this album will push him to drop a black album type classic on his next one like Jay-Z did when everyone was trying to say he fell off
Seriously, these rappers are getting TOOOOO comfortable. What happened to making 3 songs a day type shit. Album was mid af and joe just wants that interview lol
how much time he had should be no concern to the listener. The album should drop when it's ready, if it is dropped before then the listener is within their rights to criticise it without "taking into account" how much time he had to make it.
I personally don't think Mal ready to be friends again can't blame him either for not wanting to be in the same circle again. I remember seeing Mal and Joe in the old vids before even the podcast back when they were broke lol polo shirt, yankee hat, rubberband on the wrist Mal they go back and knowing Joe he'll manipulate a situation like nobody else could. Joe violated and needs to just let it go they'll never be friends like before it wouldn't be genuine.
I am 100% with Joe on the point of Drake having very select features on his album and save those features/collabs for mixtapes and loosys or the other artist projects. Artists I wanna hear are new touches like Yabba (been a fan of her) and Sampha (in the past). People that would add to the art. The song with Cudi is still my favorite so far.
This whole conversation was about the charts, how much they like Drake, etc. Contrasting this with their review of Mr Morale is interesting. The ducking, diving and spin about this album is hilarious.
This conversation is crazy in 2024.
Fam u can go back to every Kendrick or Drake title for 5 yrs. They been speaking on a possible beef and the winner was always Kendrick and Ish been mad
the take is just wrong on joe and ish’s part…ice usually has strict takes but CLB def one of drakes worst
hearing joe say "i wish drake would lose more friends" after EVERYTHING was hilarious
@@malcolmpalmer2626nah. It’s aged very well. Out of 22 songs, too sexy is the only skip
@@malcolmpalmer2626Buggin, CLB IS aging great
Parks agrees with whoever is talking, even if it goes against a point he just made
LMAO!!!
He annoys me for some reason
Facts lol
he just a happy go lucky guy lol
CLOWN JUICE
I agree with the take Joe. “If you’re reading this it’s too late” was great because he was the main character on the whole album. He probably won’t have an album where he’s the main act no features anymore because of the numbers game.
That’s the only Drake album I like
And He had a ghostwriter giving his interpretation of what Drake is.... Also, Boi1da produced that album...he didn’t produce one record on here
Yeah but that’s the one with all the reference tracks, so yeah….
The album is more of what I like about Drake and some of what I hate and I'll take that more often than not.
I dunno if he'll ever reach his peak of NWTS, but I'm cool if he never reaches that again 🤷🏿
Quentin Miller gave Drake the character to act out but yes it was one of his better projects.
Drake releases are like iPhone releases. You know what you're getting, it barely changes, but people like it.
@@chrismabhikwa254 well that just straight up isn’t true. Kanye changes his sound and style every single album, and experiments and innovates heavily, and Kendrick is always gonna say some new interesting shit. Drake just makes the same pop rap shit and follows trends.
@Carl The One fact but it seems like for a lot of people, "evolving" is only meant for certain artists and if others do it, it's deemed as crap 🤔
Best comment here
Best take
OMG THE ACCURACY 🤣🤣🤣
A long time ago, Kendrick said: “y’all too infatuated with them fuckin numbers, which makes it easy for me to divide and conquer.”
He ain't do shit tho
@@mehdihadey3258 13 Grammy’s, Pulitzer Prize winner, GKMC is still on the billboard after 300+ weeks, I’m not even gonna get into the streaming records… “he ain’t do shit tho” 🤣
He ain't do shit to Drake 🤷🏻♂️ Drake is in a lane on his own.
@@mehdihadey3258 uh ok? Lol Kendrick is in own lane too. What’s your point?
@@mehdihadey3258 drake ain’t do shit to Kenny. How in the hell has Kendrick been silent for 5yrs, & still being held in high regard with damn near everyone on the planet anticipating his next album? Lol he just released a IG post a month ago and was trending everywhere 🤣 “he ain’t do shit tho”
This is what people need to understand: Everyone is not a fan of Drake and if they are, Not all of his fans are die hard fans or stans so when people say its trash, wack, mid, ok then that's what it is(to them) regardless of how many albums he sold in a week, his popularity, his fame, etc.. You can still be considered trash and that can go for any artist
Facts
@Gem Rose An informed and intelligent comment on UA-cam. 👏
@Gem Rose facts well said Common said this on 6th sense n it’s worth repeating “if I don’t like it I don’t like it doesn’t mean that I’m hating”
Clb is not trash bozo
Facts
It’s just not a very good album.
Joe calling himself a narcissist was the truest statement from him this entire episode.
He claimed being a narcissist and (if it fits his argument) not being a narcissist a whole lotta times lmao
@@athon317n l 19:46
These are some great episodes to come back to
One of the most boring uninspired Albums I’ve heard in awhile. Drake didn’t even try this time around. But he’ll be rewarded just because of his brand.
I was actually surprised at how bland and stale it was. I'm not a fan, but even I know he can do better.
Facts
Exactly that
Your music taste is premature
Yea it def doesn’t get much of a replay value
Joe giving crazy Drake takes wearing a Amiri hat? Mal somewhere clinching his fist like Arthur rn
😂 @clinching his fist like Arthur rn
😂😂
you mad cuz you can't afford one.
@@iRahz. you Joe's burner account?
😂😂😂
This beef will be remembered for generations
"Drake is my man" that said it all
20 mins in and nobody has said a word about the album 😂
BINGO!
Thanks I just skipped to after 20mims
Exactly I hadn't watch the jbp since he did mal and rory dirty but I couldn't even finish new rory and mal because they was sucking so much meat on that album I thought joe was gonna keep it real but this man dancing like he in stomp the yard or some shit
the dude sitting on the stool is literally the only one who isnt afraid to criticize the album or even talk about it. Horrible episode. Joe trying to rebrand as a Drake groupie is embarrassing. Comparing the album with Girls Like Girls and Too Sexy on it to elite athletic performances lol
COMPLETELY AGREE 100%
And the sports comparison is way off
His name is Ice.
horrible episode. joe playing it so safe- scared to give his own opinion
Agreed about the man on the stool, not sure of his name, I agree with his position on things.
10:37 well look at what we have here 😂 aged like fine wine
Tricky because he used 21 Savage as an example and Her Loss was well recieved.
I agree with Budden it's the same thing I been saying in my inner circle. The feats are nice but honestly weaken the album. His feats on any of his albums versus the songs with just him, there's a big difference. I never cared for feats unless they were big good names, rapper rappers like Rick Ross, Wayne, Jay z, Nicki, etc.
CLB is hella "ok."
That's it...
It's not trash. It's not bad. It's not great...Just ok.
20+ records, Only 4-5 records of replay value = Trash.
Nah. It's trash. 😐
@@iBankimusPrime 🤣
On another note....That Baby Keem album is definitely in steady rotation.
@@abstractrealitytim9672 nah plenty of stuff with replay value
People were calling this album of the year and even some were calling it album of the decade when it came out 😭😭😭 You got to be the biggest drake fan to say some shit like that.
Have to be a straight Drake 🐔 🚴♂️
I have heard the opposite actually .. I like it for what it is .. it sounds like people were expecting the second coming of Christ, in album form.
It’s a dope album but don’t know that it’s better then KD2…
Drake and Lebron got the most delusional stans
Joe and ish talking Jordan but ice can't talk dunk contest 😂😂😂
Pretty frustrating watching Joe and Ish gang up on Ice every episode. He has plenty of reasonable takes even though not all of them are correct. Ish was flat out wrong on the Simone Biles' analogy and Ice was clearly right.
What do you expect when your dealing with Drake stans
Yeah that analogy was trash. They just bending the rules cuz it’s Drake. If this was any other artist who just doing a rinse and repeat with their music, we would kill them. But we’re supposed to give Drake a pass cuz it’s Drake?
Dumbest analogy ever by Ish
Anything said against Drake, Diddy, Jay Z or any ROC Nation artist is continuously shut down or and minimalised by Joe, the cutting edge to the show has been sunk in quicksand sadly.
lol they sound dumb as fuck. Drake was busy so you should take that into account when judging the album? That's nonsense. In years to come when you forget "Drake was busy" before making this album your not going to listen to it with that in mind.
Kendrick gone come back and trash everybody’s album and it won’t even be hard this time lmao
💯
Kendrick last verse on keems shit was straight booboo
Stop hyping that dude he trash all that spitting n saying nothing
@@str8koptv901 u clearly don’t listen to Kendrick if u believe that 😭
He already did that with just a feature on baby keem song alone
So Drake said he's been losing friends and gaining peace and Joe said that as someone who spent the last year losing as many friends as possible he felt that line. Another shot at Rory and Mal.
Joe doin everything he can to get the Drake interview before Rory and Mal 😂😂😂
This album was generic, lazy, sleepy and below mid
Facts
Out of touch
@@thenoodledrop7926 the album was out of touch
I concur
@@thenoodledrop7926 the album? yes no growth since 2016
“Drizzy bout to drop the game is in disarray” explains the energy whenever he drops.
Joe calling his co-host a “loser” hits a little different since what happened with Rory and Mal.
Then STOP WATCHING, we don't need that simp energy messing up the vibe.
Lowkey man, the whole shitting on your cohosts “jokingly” feeling more off than funny now
@@urbannuance5151 stop it bro. You’re simping for another man on the internet. I don’t think Joe needs you to defend him.
@@urbannuance5151 Freddy, you don’t need to jump to joes aid like that. Not a good look for you man
He called himself a loser in the process
Calling it now. Kendrick is going to drop either after Keem drops this Friday or the end of the month. AND this might be a wild one, but Cole will be on the album either a feature or producing a beat
Maybe B4 the year ends. Not the month tho
He'll drop his album next Friday he's not going to step on Keem's album release. He might drop a single this Friday.
The Grammy cut off in October 👀
Kendrick dropping November or Xmas
New flows coming be patient brother...
I can't believe Drake gets praise off saying nothing for 5 straight years 🙄
Yo. Search
Shut up or kill me
By paid killa
& thank me later on
👍🏾💎
He also gets a lot of hate tho...
@@Oddplanet99 tru
Not 5 years but yeah it’s same of the drake stuff but it’s a good project
The album was trash
Joe seems desperate to get in the good graces of Drake that he’s really gonna cap, have the entire episode dedicated to Drake (compared to the attention he gave DONDA), and pretend it’s one of the best albums out there. I like Drake too but I’m not gonna start pretending his shit isn’t mid when it’s mid..
This take by Joe May be a signal of more to come from the JBP, which seems to be going down. He’s already treating his NEW cohosts like trash, unaware that they’re picking it up as they go along because he broke up the old crew. Stop the tension with Ice bro. It’s obvious and uncomfortable.
Art is subjective in the end so everyone entitled to their own opinion. That said, I expected someone like Joe to be a bit more honest when it comes to rap. But he can’t afford to criticize Drake considering the instability of the Joe Budden Network at the moment. Sucks. I’m still rolling to give him chances to turn this around but man, just fucking sucks.
cap u dont know what u talking about child
How was it mid tho..I’m not a big joe fan but I agreed with wat he said..an how was he on drakes 🍆 he was critical majority of the episode about the shit drake shouldn’t hve did..come on u being bias rn
Another entitled fan writing paragraphs acting like a critic 😂. Let it go bro ,its not that serious.
@@shylockchirau1980 what's the difference between a critic and a fan?
Tension with ice? 🤔
2 years later kendrick changed it.
10:29 real conversation starts here
MVP 🔥🔥💯
If your reading this its too late is still a fire album or mixtape though! 🔥🔥 it aged well
Joe really acting like him and Drake are close friends and he’s in his circle. To think you know what someone is doing based on social media post is delusional..
Have u not heard joe before? Did u forget he dropped 8 min diss songs cuz drake said pump it up... joe budden is probably one of the biggest drake fans out
@@flyinglow7218 Joe even look like if Drake was at a mediocre level of success and spent 20 years smoking Newports
@@millardfilmore1403 🤣🤣💀💀
It’s a real phenomenon now days, it’s called a “Parasocial relationship”. Just funny that “celebrities” form these with other larger celebrities too lol
It's literally just a artistic thing anybody who's truly able to read code know what's coming..artist for the most part be speaking their life and feelings if you look at their lyrics you can read and even yes their post as well do play a factor. These two niggas been throwing shots for a long ass time. Even recently Kendrick def shooting at drake. He up to something .
*This project isn't a Top 5 album this year imo. He got a few songs I like off it though.*
Give me top 5 this year. People forget view,ntwts and if you reading this it's too late were all mod at release but aged well.
@@LegendaryUchiha1990 NWTS was great imo. and Views is tied with Scorpion as Drake worst project imo.
@@patsnation8427 The thing about Drake is his fans like diff shit. I know Drake fans who hate take care and I think that's his best album. I dunno where to rank this alb yet I still think it's too early to call it mid or trash yet.
@@LegendaryUchiha1990 It's not bad it's just lite.
Who in their right mind would even put this album in that discussion of top 5?
Kendrick bout to wash these boys 🔥🙏🤞🔥
And Wale
Cap!
Called it 😂
Drake joint sound hella formulaic. Seems like he's either bored or has run outta ish to say creatively. Dude used to set the bar and now he just seems to ride waves. Back to bumping that Cole til Kendrick saves the day.
Drake is at the level of his career where he does not need to try anymore and this album proves it. I’m thankful Ye still seems to care about being creative with his music
Views? More life? Ppl just hate when he's being creative
Facts, but I'm sure he's got follow up with future , he plays chess well
@@DesignzRUs More Life was 4 an a half years ago, Views was 5.5 years ago. Drake definitely at a different point in his career now
@@Newtoschool my point is everyone hated those albums
@@DesignzRUs So are you saying Drake shouldn't be creative?
And also why do you think people hated when he was being creative with More Life and Views?
THe one thing I LOVE about JOe is the honestly the realism in the conversations. These are the same chats I’m having at home. CLB was not great period.
I’m a huge Drake fan this album isn’t it I can say Kanye West Donda album took you on an experience musically 💯
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Facts! Not only the experience but he's willing to do different shit, that's why I appreciate Ye more as an artist.
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If you want Broadway
Thank you! That's the realest review 💥
Joe's music-talk is unmatched. That's were my boi gets the roses.
Almost reminds me of ESPN 😂
Yeah right he don't listen to the albums unless its drake
Man his shit trash
@@mr.mannsstreetstv6886 okay Rurry
@@EndTimesRadioTV lmao
Drake is the biggest rapper. Probably has the biggest album budget. And gives you a samey, boring album. No risks, production doesn’t evolve. Yet it still does the numbers. It’s wild.
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Why does he need to give risks? He’s at the top and it seems to be working during similar things. Production was fire though come on
@@joec2104 even McDonalds will add a new item to the menu. It may be a failure or it may be a success it’s still a billion dollar company
@@rontaviussnipes3021 ooooo
Idk if I care about risks but with Drake as my favorite rapper I’m kind of tired hearing about how some chick didn’t text back a multimillionaire or how she curved you before you made it big. I expected some maturity especially with having a child now but his content has been basically the same since I came across his music for the most part. This album is basically a cookie cutter take from his usual formula
Drake played it safe, and it sucked there was nothing new here. The same Drake shit he's released his last few albums
Why change it if its not broken? Goats like Nas, Hov & Eminem have never switched their styles
Why will he change he has no fuckin reason
@@lewis.9770 its broken now
@@Ontheish according to you. No the millions of people who continue to listen to his music
@@lewis.9770 hov and nas you can argue have switched up their styles. Either way it was different back then. Drake don’t get that luxury especially when there’s Kanye and Kendrick consistently stepping the game up stylistically
Joe comparing Drake to Jordan in his final years is proof that he thinks this is mid but gives him the respect off of the strength of his previous works
Jordan only had one arguable trash year his stats everyone season was crazy compared to other players he was only in comparison to himself…. Wym
@@wethepeople4028 yea idk wtf boy talking about 🤣 jordan was giving buckets to a Ron artest and locking up a young vince Carter
Bruh yall boys seem in ya feelings cause joe liked the album
Bro don't speak on Chicago shit you sound dumb asf how was Jordan mid but won his 2nd 3peat before he retired.
@@blairburton4199 buddy claim down he’s talking about wizards jordan and we can speak on wat ever we want from Chicago when it comes to sports 🤣 relax
Joe been calling this beef. I even went back to when Rory and Mal was on the pod Joe was talking about the beef with Kendrick
Punch saying ‘you see something I don’t see’ was so clean but mean at the same time 🔥
I'm with Joe on the Drake take. CLB didn't have enough Drizzy on it. I think he was prioritizing numbers with this album. If I ever met Drake, I would tell him that his greatest record--his GOAT masterpiece--will drop when he stops caring about numbers.
U really think drake would give a flying fuck what u have to say? 😂🤣😂🤣
Thank you Ice for keeping it real. I’m a drake fan. But this wasn’t it. Joe talk about CLB. Not drakes history of greatness.
Joe is so PC now and that's why his podcast is slowly fading to black, Drake album wasn't it and it doesn't have much replay value. Kanye sonically had the better album and he used his features better than Drake 🤷🏾♂️
Fact
You are right but most of Kanyes rap lyrics ar trash im not buying an album just for the sound ... so drake lyrically leads but production wise its kanye
Kanye shit was all over the place especially with all the features he didn't clear. Drake album is fire. Must be a Kanye fan
That’s your opinion. And there are people who don’t agree. The end.
Kanye album was trash why y’all hyping that dude he suck and stop calling him a genius he’s a good producer who knows how to sample the right records that’s it
Nas album is the best rap album this year, hands down now come through Kendrick and shut it down!
Oldhead 🤣
I agree
You high
Meek mill dropping some heat this year
@jasmine Reynolds not its not no way better than styles p new album and J Cole the off season
I be wanting to hear Ice’s point but Joe be cutting him off! Sometimes we don’t want to hear the lyrical miracle break downs, Just tell us what you thought bruh!
Ice points be way off dude to old to be put here talm bout if it ain’t killing or trap like chief keep durk and lil baby he don’t care for it ish is not a music guy you can tell. Joe is the only one who know a lil sum sum he just to intricate with his breakdown to the point they lose meaning
Drake’s worst album by a super landslide and I didnt think it could get worse than Scorpion 😓
Cap
Scorpion is one of drakes best albums I swear
Fact
first half of scorpion is cool. I'll never get behind drakes singing though so the second half doesn't exist to me
@@Pikachuvs50Cent not even top 3 in his own catalog
Conversations like this is why this podcast has excelled
The album was straight up OK.
3/10 disappointed
fr. years/months of hype and he has EVERYONE on the album. no new sounds. no new bars. Certified Mid Boy
hating
Rubbish
@@musieadane5873 its trash deal with it
Drake made an album off the strength of his name.
That ain’t enuff
This his 3rd time now doing that...like bruh deadass must have lost it. Same shit nothing new. He should learned from kanye
He shoulda just dropped a "poopdiddi scoop" song. Would have been the ultimate troll and woulda been funny asf if it charted
@@Dioslux 100% would chart. Anything with Drake or Kanye will sell even if its a complete joke with them telling you it was a joke. They could shit in a fans mouth and the fan would thank them and release a review about how great it was.
CLB wasn’t bad but the context of drake’s lyrics & his production don’t seem to be evolving.
Exactly
@Silver Surfer lol fair enough
Facts
The only comment that's on point man spoke about same shit he always does caring what others think worried about his legacy and ghost writing conspiracy nothing new💯
@Silver Surfer I know he uses ghost writers it's in his head trying to prove to everyone he's his own ghost writer 🤣😂 I been telling ppl Meek lost the battle with him and drake but won the war cause no real hip-hop fan is gonna credit drake as the best rapper maybe a well rounded artist but not master of his own craft 💯
Ice too honest for this pod
Nobody’s holding Drake to a high standard, in terms of CLB, the album was not good
Lol I know right. People are acting as if drake has set this crazy bar as far as is albums as if he’s Kendrick or Kanye. The album was average by any standard
I got about 10 songs i like, its an ight project, he should've cut the album down to 15 songs
CLB was ok but Donda was better IMO
I think Drake needs to take a break like Hov did when he retired around '03, at the peak of his powers and as the man and just focus on adding more context to his life and give ppl the break they clearly need from his music coz as Charlamane said there's really no next level to where he's at now and so he'll get judged for being experimental with his sound(Views and More Life) and also be judged for supposedly keeping the same formula
But Kendrick do it and everyone is upset. When Kendrick disappeared He WAS the man. He beat Drake in album sales and won a whole lot of accolades then whoosh. Disappeared.
@@jordandavis3867 when did he beat drake????
@@ThinkFitEvolve the DAMN album bro
@@MiNoGanG drake ain’t release a studio album when damn was released my guy
Retiring nowadays just sounds corny though. It was different back then
If Joe thought Views was mid then I KNOW he thinks this album is trash but won’t say it cause he wants the Drizzy interview. Also, he reaching soooo hard for him and Kendrick. That ship been sailed.
This dude might as well host this pod himself, jeez. He has to have the final opinion and dominate every conversation smh.
I would on my podcast aswell
You must be new here, welcome to the JBP
He needs people to look "better" than though
It’s called bad media YALL actong like this is how conversations normally go with friends is weird . Joe being the nigga he is surprised more of his “friends” don’t snuff him he’s cocky loud and childish on all levels
CLB was a huge disappointment, the max score is a 4/10😬 1 brownie point added for the fact that he actually dropped it. The album was boring and I skipped about 17 songs 💀
Mostly every song on the album was trash I feel , but some songs might creep up and grow on me over time , drake songs have that effect but I don’t think none of these songs will do that , they were that trash
Super mid
after hearing the 1st track i knew i was in for a disappointment.
@@ronnysloft yeah , we gotta wait for the drake effect tho and see if it grow over time , it’s still very early , it’s not even a week old yet but yeah I have for low chances of that happening for this album, it’s literally garbage more than scorpion
you skipped 17 songs but you feel you’re somehow qualified to speak on how good it is?
Joe was out here shucking and jiving w Pusha and still thinks he’s getting a Drake interview. Delusion
It’s coming
He talks hip hop and gives unbiased opinions that's his job, you sound like a female.
Both albums were not as expected, Joe be in Aubreys ass sometimes though damn.
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@@donniebrascoe5400 no
Kanyes album was amazing
@@rmelo914 Lmaoooooo why u crush son spirits like that 🤣🤣🤣
Joe is a loser for wanting that drake interview 🤣🤣
Not Joe with the Amiri hat lol
Wearing an Amiri hat is craazzyy
Small azzz letters on it😂
Take Care still reigns supreme as drake's best album
Thats the weekends album 😂🤷🏾♂️
@@michaelsledge3904 😂😂😂😂 you thinking of house of balloons
It is. Ironically that album is heavy on The Weeknd influence with a Kendrick verse added
@@michaelsledge3904 facts
Nah Nothing was the same was his best work! Everything came together on that record. I do agree that Drake verses were🔥🔥 on Take Care especially the song with Rozay
This is a non-review 🤣. But to me CLB just came across as shallow. Like read the room, bruh! We're all coming out of miserable lockdowns & most folks don't want to hear him rap about how much money & strippers he has, esp when he pushing 40 & has a son. Plus he calls his son a mistake, which is sad af. One reason Donda feels so powerful is its theme of loss is really relatable to most of us now
What was the line where he called his son a mistake? I HONESTLY couldn't get thru this album cuz of how BAD it was that I don't even know what song its on as well. Genuine question of mine though. Appreciate a response if you remember 🙏🏼
Right when you said Donda I knew your opinion didn’t matter. 🤣🤦🏽♂️
@@ItachiUchiha90 bruh your name is papi. Every comment you make dont matter
Rappers been flexing for years through worse.... this take is garbage.
I like Way Too Sexy too. I like the album. I really didn't know what to expect with this album. I tried not to come to conclusions and know that Drake is always going to be Drake. Some people seem to want him to be more like other people. Why should he when he's on top being who he is. Some of these people are criticizing when they couldn't put an album together if someone had a gun to their head.
Kdot has "THE LONGEST CHARTING RAP ALBUM IN BILLBOARD HISTORY" lol bro cemented, he doesnt need to worry about the charts.
Absolutely… we’re talking since section 80 that boy hasn’t missed yet & probably won’t
Kdot “popped down” he ain’t it dawg
That mans retired bro, I was 27 when he last dropped I’ll be 32 in December. That song he dropped smoking on your top 5 was not worth no the wait and sounded like 2017
Not Eminem?
I love kdot but that album charted that long cos he ain’t releasing no music bro.. us as fans obvs gonna keep going back to that album hence why it charting so long.
This conversation is actually wild in 2024, post this beef - Budden was on the money AGAIN !!!!!!
Lemme say this, it's a Drake album so lets just be honest we're gonna have songs on repeat. BUTTTTT out of all Drakes projects it's easily the worst.
Views is way worse, and people forget about thank me later
Def not the worst drake album if we have what a time to be alive out there and also dark lane demo tapes
@@DannyHendrixxx dark lane demo tapes was not bad. You tweaking.
More life is by far his worst album
As a whole album, CLB > Scorpion for sure. Then you’ve got debatables - like is it better than Views, Dark Lane Demo Tapes, and More life?
I just know Kendrick album is gonna be fire
But will sell 200k then we about to laugh
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@@trent0184 Kendrick is good no lie but drizzy is a nightmare in his dreams.when I signed my first deal,that shit came through a fax,that should let you know how long I been out here runnin’ laps.I been doin’ this a long time bait for Kendrick then you know what happens next ohh men not again.haha
@@greekgaddafi4468 nah Kendrick a better rapper imo
@@trent0184 we’ll see soon I can see them squaring off then we’ll all know
This drake album was mediocre.
I listened to the album once never went back.
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Congrats
U should, there is some joints on there
The album is trash anybody saying it's not it's just a drake simp
Same
Dude on the left has some of the goofiest clothes I’ve ever seen lmao
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He tryna get in his "Mal bag" lol they even brought the high chair back
Lmaoooo
Polo Smurf collection
Ice is the only person that made sense in this whole thing.
It’s Ok Joe...Drake will still be your friend but this album wasn’t it. You can’t compare him to Jay Z and say CLB was “it” especially for drake to be 34
Turning 35 next month with a 4 year old son. Gotta song named after an HBCU where he's paying a stripper for head who dontbgiy a mom and dad in her life. Can't make this shit up
Facts!! Even tho it wasn’t bad tho.. it was like #09 Drake … he hasn’t progressed or taken chances or done anything different to show us anything different or GROWTH
Drake is better than Jay.
@@wildshark9248 for real? I seriously had no idea.
@@longlivelakers8778 🤣
This a 100% true. Drake albums age well but initial release be weak. He conditioned our minds to just rock with his music no matter what.
I went into clb thinkin i was gonna get take care,nothing was the same albums vibes and i didn't so i was disappointed
we never gettin nothing was the same and take care vibes again…that’s over wit dawg
@@koreyjackson8116 unfortunately you're right. ive been waiting for a strict rap album for 4 years
@@daboy380 it’s the same as us asking for Carter 2 Wayne back…it’s just not happening lol
Joe said he was “losing” friends. Cuh you ran them away for sure
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Them wasn't friends
Joe doesn't value Friendships .
Park and ice sit around and be scared to disagree sometime
I mean, Joe did say he doesn't have to respect his friends. That's not the sentiment of someone people are keen on staying around
@@ctredez2047 respect is earned ..
Drake has'nt progressed as an artist. He becoming very mediorcre 🤷🏾♂️ 2016 all over again smh
Not according to his numbers. 😃
@@lewis.9770 white people
@@amenx foolish comment
Why will he change he doesn’t even has competition
@@lewis.9770 No it’s true. Most black people aren’t fans of drake. His sales come ftom mostly white international girls.
Does Joe ever "toss it" to his co-host?
disappointed i this review
DRAKE gave us a boring album
joe this time wanted to impress Drake
Disappointed that someone likes an album that you don’t? Lmao what a clown
@@lewis.9770 They really didn’t review it in the usual sense bur admitted to it basically being a mid Drake album but Joe not critiquing it like he would others.
@@RealRap619 bro he likes it you didn't thats music.
You can tell Joe is trying to secure a drake interview, this album was boring. If ANYONE did the same thing Joe would be screaming it's trash.
This album is not good. Drake has nothing interesting to say. He says he has no friends but literally has every big name featured on this album. Like who doesn't like you? Lol
Thats buisness bro..u think just cuz he got ft..they are his friends?
Here To Let Y'all Know Drake Evolved, CLB Ain't His Best Craft, BUT He Brings Out The Best Of Who He Is...Y'all Listen To Gimmicky Clones Hence You Hear Same Shit..
NOBODY Is Like Drake. He Has Found Ways To Engineer His Sound And Artistry.I Never Understand How People Have Opinions On Stories They Ain't Never Heard Of. Kendrick, Cole And Drake Are Amazing Goats In Their Own Lane, Stop Comparing
Tap dancing and copping pleas..respect to Ice for being real and upfront
Funny hearing these guys cap for the Canadian rap actor like this ain't the real album..he coming back quick..dudes this is it.
I have found myself not being able to relisten to drakes album.. I keep trying to give it another chance but I find myself listening to Donda more…
Same sis. It's one song where Drake calls his son a mistake too... The whole CLB album just comes across as shallow fboy type ish which is mad tone deaf when we're all just coming out of lockdowns. Like read the room, bruh. It's not a time when most folks want to hear him rap about how much money & strippers he got, especially when he pushing 40 & has a baby. Donda's theme of loss is one reason it's so powerful rn
Same here.
I couldn’t even finish donda my ears started bleeding
@@scarlet8078 that's very true
I like when Joe breaks down albums he should do this at least twice a month
make it 4 times, ever friday plz
Bro is right. He wanted an organic experience from this album & in hindsight that’s how everyone should go into those types of projects. I HARED the fact that I heard parts of Jail from DONDA before I even had it.
Ice the only one keeping it real on this. They all know the album weak
Facts
Feels like Joe won't give a direct answer to what he thought of the CLB
People are just desensitized to how good of an artist drake is. The production, bars and flow were all top quality on CLB, it's just that everyone expects each album to get better because of his run beginning with Scorpion. Hopefully all the ignorant hate Drake is getting on this album will push him to drop a black album type classic on his next one like Jay-Z did when everyone was trying to say he fell off
Ish: Yo he had mad time.
Joe: Nah, he didn’t he was making candles.
Ish:
Me: Thats mad time for the album lmao
Seriously, these rappers are getting TOOOOO comfortable. What happened to making 3 songs a day type shit. Album was mid af and joe just wants that interview lol
how much time he had should be no concern to the listener. The album should drop when it's ready, if it is dropped before then the listener is within their rights to criticise it without "taking into account" how much time he had to make it.
CLB is actually a great album the more you listen.. you guys just hated off the first spin smh
The way this man finds a way to subliminally mention the other guys every episode is nuts... Just call them and apologize already.
How did he mention them ?
@@cesartijerino4239 Go back to the 10:15 mark.
I personally don't think Mal ready to be friends again can't blame him either for not wanting to be in the same circle again. I remember seeing Mal and Joe in the old vids before even the podcast back when they were broke lol polo shirt, yankee hat, rubberband on the wrist Mal they go back and knowing Joe he'll manipulate a situation like nobody else could. Joe violated and needs to just let it go they'll never be friends like before it wouldn't be genuine.
I wish y’all would stop watching joe if you’re gonna complain every episode jesus lol
@@Spazlites No
Drake’s album’s been MID after take care & NWTS😭🤣
I am 100% with Joe on the point of Drake having very select features on his album and save those features/collabs for mixtapes and loosys or the other artist projects. Artists I wanna hear are new touches like Yabba (been a fan of her) and Sampha (in the past). People that would add to the art. The song with Cudi is still my favorite so far.
This whole conversation was about the charts, how much they like Drake, etc. Contrasting this with their review of Mr Morale is interesting. The ducking, diving and spin about this album is hilarious.