I hear that they're actually making that 'Heroes of Azaroth' game, good to see them embracing a new direction for the Warcraft world. (Before anybody gets snippy I actually have the original versions of Warcraft 3 and it's expansion sitting on my self, it's just one of my favourite April Fools jokes from them)
Even funnier, back in the days of Diablo 1 and 2, Blizz were twice considering make a Diablo game for Game Boy, but didn't think it was financially viable lol.
jim sterling a right wing fanatic!?!?! ha! HA! i say!... no thats ridiculas!... he is clearly a spy sent by the reploid neo-nazi american alliance to moniter the progress of project M.A.G.A so far championed as the slogan make america great again, but is in reality an acronim for their true! plan... merged audience global assimilation wake up people! WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TO LATE WE'V GOTTA STOP EM!!!!!!!
@@romanplays1 :D i dont like ether side of politics i dont trust fanatic pack mentality in politics, you should reavaluate your self, and why you chose to make your political views a relegion... or not etherway im done with you ^^
Blizzcon 2013: 'You don't want WoW Classic. You think you want it, but you don't.' Blizzcon 2018: 'Here's D3 Mobile! You don't think you want it, but you do.'
@Metadragon142 If classic really is that bad, then I guess I'm not touching WoW, period, because I absolutely hate the changes since Cata... really, the only thing I'd miss is the Pandarean race.
This phenomena should already be called as "Nokia syndrome" as this kind of thinking was exactly what eventually destroyed Nokia in mobile phone industry and it will certainly also destroy Activision Blizzard if they do not go back to customer oriented business models as you can't tell your customers what they should like in your opinion versus what they actually want.
@@schregen Don't do it, they'll probably just release the base game without microtransactions for like the first month then flip on the switch like they did with call of duty.
not just that ... they also let an 'inexperienced' developer do the reveal. I think the reaction could have been better (or at least less negative) if one of their big guns had annnounced it. But then they probably saw it coming and found a reason not to be the poor sob who had to do it.
@@yuesu2325 Agreed. I remember going from D2 to D3 and thinking "damn, everything looks so small now. Can't see the cool details on my character anymore". I can't imagine (let alone SEE) how I could play a Diablo 3 spinoff with my thumbs taking up 25-30% of the screen space on a smartphone, plus how much it would kill my battery life and data limits since "always on-line".
"you're entitled" is the latest corporate scam - a way to make you feel ashamed for speaking out against low quality products. The reality is, ESPECIALLY when you purchase a product, you ARE LEGIT entitled to it working well and having basic features and expectations met without it being crap.
@Madam Meouff Well, that would be just as stupid, albeit very very funny. They should just all go back to being neutral, this way they aren't pissing off half of the player base.
@@Morten_Storvik Entitled means that you are entitled to get something. As in, for example you own a title of a land. Then you are entitled to use that land. The whole corelation between entitled and spoiled is just bullshit propaganda to writeoff people who are demanding what is rightfully theirs.
The "alt" stands for "alternative". I suppose you could, sort of, qualify "left" as "alternative right", in the same way that a zombie is "alternatively alive"
@@johnmarks9994 No they aren't. They only claim to be so when conservatives get banned from twitter or when corporations like Blizzard appease China. They don't give a shit about: crunch, worker's rights, living wage, etc.
In their eyes, they are defending their pals, the workers in the games industry when they defend an Activision-Blizzard or an EA or their microtransactions or whatever.
I honeslty don't know what the hell is going. One second the right-wingers are complaining that Jim is too SJW, and now there's apparently people thinking he's right wing? I guess it's true what they say, to these people, if you don't align completely with them, you must be on the complete opposite side of the spectrum lol.
Nobody actually knows what the parties stand for any more. Left and right have become nearly meaningless perjoratives used by people who believe they're on the opposite side. The authoritarians are winning, we've gotten so radically it's become impossible for us to cooperate, so now candidates only have to swing tiny populations to gain power, undermining the Democratic process. Both sides are doing this equally fervently.
@@doubtfulguest5450 No, I have a better analogy. Porsche announces that they are developing a new 9/11 model car. But that model will be a budget mini coupe.
We know a developers are fishing for "whales". What if the tapered the rewards for whales? I the first purchase was an excellent, let's say lvl 1 item and when the whale reaches final level it takes 10 purchases to "by chance win" a useful item... How greedy are developers that put loot boxes in their games? Would as JS mentioned with C.O.D. patch them in later?
To those not understanding the April fools joke thing... a few years back blizzard announced a new diablo mobile game around april 1st and it ended up being an April fools joke... until now I suppose?
@s p l a y e r c: it's not an april fool's joke now... someone stood up and asked if it was an April's fools joke. The origin of this is that blizzard "leaked" diablo mobile game years before this was announced as a joke because at the time they thought it would be a joke to do something like this
@@soloplayzz3553 but can we be sure he was referencing that older joke? i mean, asking "if this is a out of season april fools joke" isn't really an indicator for that... could be just as well coincidence... only the guy who spoke the words knows the truth
Don’t forget: During a follow-up panel, Blizzard did say that their top developers would be working on Mobile entries for ALL of their IPs Yes, they didn’t just double-downed; they triple-downed on being completely out of touch
Karmas Camera they think we’re out of touch, bc everyone has a phone. Aaaaand they are bad for gaming. Like, how do you micro? How’s the framerate, why not also have it on pc?
@@Bananahammock681 They also said that they stop playing Pc games and play mostly on the phone. With other words: The make the game for themselves and not their fans.
well immortal means not mortal and mortal means capable of dying, dead things cant die and so if before it exists it is already dead then at no point of its existence it is capable of dying, it is therefore not mortal and so is in fact immortal.
FHJGKFHDGKJLH Jim Streling is literally the most socially progressive worker protecting lefty on gaming youtube and people are calling him a right wing reactionary? I'm crying
What in the god damn fuck is with this left and right bullshit? Someone with certain opinions and views automatically gets lumped into a group with millions of other people? Yeah, what a great fucking way to look at people and how they work. Just give them some political labels, regardless if they actually give a flying fuck about politics, and problem solved.
it would just be a video of him laughing for fifteen minutes straight while footage of pink Darth Vader played in the background ...actually I'm down for that. I also vote for this Lord Jim
those of Activision Blizzard are down by something like 25% now as well, big corps are finally getting their asses handed to them it seems even by stockholders.
I remember when Activision bought Blizzard, and how they said that Activision would not interfere with Blizzard's business practices. I thought yeah, they won't interfere.... _at first_ ...sigh...
Sega said the same for Atlus but now they are slowly pulling it more under their name. Ebgames was good before GS ate them. None of these ever come out good.
@@Gamemaster-64 : ( the decline of Atlus has been the saddest thing, and you could see it right away. Pulled the personal blog entries, closed down the forums (admittedly, there wasn't that much traffic), and a slow crawl of shitty practices. RIP.
Activision-Blizzard sent Wyatt Cheng on a suicidal mission by putting the poor guy on stage. He was _not_ prepared in the slightest. Then again, the backlash was inevitable.
This here is why stage fright is such a common phenomenon. So many pairs of eyes focused on you, ready to turn on you at the slightest mistake. But what Activision-Blizzard sent Wyatt Cheng to tell them wasn't so much a mistake as it was a pratfall straight into a Bond villain's piranha tank.
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage I think if you see it in context you'll get it. The movie has some insane gore/practical effects/mindfuck type of stuff going on in other scenes.
Honestly, this weird desire that people seem to have to defend any shitty corporation against any backlash, and somehow labeling that backlash as "right-wing" is revolting. i've seen that a lot, and it's concerning as hell, to somehow try to associate left and corporations, it's just backwards.
I think its because instead of a constant stream of criticism with the corporation "gamers" stay passive until a minor thing sets them off and all of a sudden it's GG 2.0. Like compare how much complaining there is for this game as compared to DRD2 and their controversy over forced work hours. Add to that actual right-wing shit stirrers like "the quartering" placing themselves at the center of the outrage as "pro-consumer" and it's a really bad look.
What you guys call "the left" pretty much is center right, which is pretty pro corporations. Non of your shitty democrat politicians would fall on the left side of the political spectrum. Not even bernie sanders.
@@Pawg_Alf Yeah, I think a lot of games journalists still have shell shock from the absolute shit show of the 2014 harassment/misogyny campaign. They automatically assume any "gamer" backlash is in the same category as GG and so they have to treat it as such, even when, as in this case, it clearly isn't. And as you mention the right-wing trolls will take any opportunity to try to fan the flames to "red pill" (indoctrinate) a few more disaffected young men to their side. The legacy of GG continues to poison the discourse and I don't see any signs of it getting better.
What do these journalists even mean by "entitlement"? We are the source of their revenue as a company, it's only normal that they should seek to satisfy us if they want to stay in business. There's no need to sugarcoat this, feel bad for their feely feels, because all of this is pure business. AAA games have forgone the art piece title and their artistic integrity a long time ago to become pure objects of business, and I refuse to ever give credit to a AAA company's "artistic vision", because there is none. They make a product to satisfy their client. They do a bad job? The client speaks up. That's not to say that people working for these companies don't put passion in their work, in fact I feel bad for the development team on D:I who must've been excited to show what they were working on only to get boo'd to fuck, but I'm fairly certain that they don't take it personnaly, because it's a BUSINESS.
'Entitlement' is a buzzword today currently used in the game company/game 'journalism' circles to shame people who complain about crappy products or expect an actual project with a complete experience given to them for their expense, like they used to get years ago. The big companies funnel $$ into journalist companies to attack the people attacking them to make them look bad. It's propaganda more or less, and the word 'entitled' is used to describe a lot of people today who are upset about the way things are run by their corporate overlords. You hear it a lot. 'Entitled Gamers', 'Entitled Millenials' and so on and so forth. Not only is it a bogus way of deflecting the anger at the people who genuinely deserve to be angry at the bullshit, it's usually used incorrectly in the first place.
It's like when A Hat in Time was marketed as a casual game & one of the kickstarter rewards was "completely free" DLC chapters but then the DLC came out, was only free for a day (unless you were a backer), & was one of the most hardcore, unfair, unfinished, buggy, trial-&-error, out of place things to ever come out of the gaming industry & people who criticized it were called entitled crybabies by other customers even though the store page tells a mix of misleading info & actual lies & even though the DLC openly contradicts every bit of design philosophy ever described by its lead dev so you can't even say he tried to make it good unless you're a liar.
Toxicity has been on the forefront of a lot of people's minds lately thanks to extreme examples such as Waluigi fans harassing Sakurai on social media, so I think the idea is to try and discourage that sort of entitled behavior. The issue is that not all harsh and hyperbolic criticism is toxic behavior. Toxic behavior is targeted at harming or devaluing individuals, hence Jim reinforcing the idea to not harass people with names despite his strong criticisms. By contrast, claiming that an announcement is an April Fools' joke isn't harmful or devaluing any individuals, it's just mocking the decision itself. And I think Blizzcon attendees have the right to harshly criticize this kind of thing after paying hundreds of dollars to attend Blizzcon, especially if they didn't get much else that they were anticipating when they spent that money. Unfortunately toxic mentalities as a whole are currently so far in the forefront of our minds that it's easier to make the mistake of overgeneralizing the definition of toxic behavior and lumping the term with behaviors that aren't actually toxic. Entitlement IS a problem we need to do something about, this Blizzcon reaction just has absolutely nothing to do with that problem.
Totally agree. I don't understand how you call a customer base "entitled" because they aren't getting what they want. This industry's entire existence is based on giving people the entertainment they want. The games industry is getting flat out told by its fans what kind of games they are interested in, but instead they are shoveling out predatory shite with no actual content because it makes them more money. THERE is your entitlement, game publishers. You call your customers entitled when things don't sell well enough and when things aren't received the way you want them to be. YOUR fucking source of revenue. Well, YOU are not "entitled" to people's money, fuck heads.
Cameron Barenbrugge well said. I really never understood this basic principal and how it gets distorted into this ideology of disingenuousness. We all know a company starts out by totally focusing on what the consumer wants. They get bigger and continues to get feedback so they can stay relevant to the consumer base. Then they reach the level where shareholders come in to play to make decisions that are not representative of the consumer base and naturally the consumer reject to this. But then the script changes and people call the consumer entitled when they are the ones paying the money to keep the company going it’s asinine but so prevalent. Thanks
Bethesda just shoved a flamethrower in their mouth, mistaking it for a beer. The fact that they then fumbled with the TRIGGER on their beer/flamethrower is a manuever of such utter stupidity, that it could be mistaken as thinly veiled, premeditated suicide...
Honestly, i'm more upset about Blizzard getting in bed with those snakes over at NetEase. It's like watching your washed up childhood hero getting in bed with an *Ugly Bastard.*
You shouldn't. Why in the world would you EVER care for a company? They sell things, you buy things. The relationship should never go any further than that.
We should care for them because they said so. That's our purpose as consumers - to jizz money into their offshore bank accounts and thank them for the opportunity.
-Diablo Immortal announced as a mobile game. -Activision not satisfied with cod blops 4 "only" making $500 million in it's first three days. -Activision deciding that instead of making Destiny 2 a more appealing game, the way to fix it's failure is to stuff more monetization into it. -Activision sneaking microtransactions into cod blops 4. -Blizzard press conference revealing that all of it's best devs have been shifted to mobile projects. What we're seeing here, ladies and gentlemen, is the beginning phase of CraptiBlehzurd deciding to go full Konami.
My big question for ActiBliz: If you're (obviously) making a game to take advantage of the gambling-addicted, phone-obsessed Chinese market, why are you hosting Blizzcon here and not in China? You made the game for them, not for us. Go announce it there. Shoo.
This is why Diablo Immortal is most likely going to succeed. Blizzcon made a clear show of PC gamers hating it. That isn't going to stop hundreds of millions of players in China eating it up.
Differently Abled Muslim Jewish Lesbian of Colour No, I’d say that shareholders are quite aware that the mobile gaming market is huge in China and Japan and that’s why Immortal was made. As for announcing it at Blizzcon in the USA where mobile gaming isn’t very big...who the hell knows what happened.
This is a beautiful but 100% true comment. Asian markets will EAT this game up. All the negative press aside, these guys will make millions off this enterprise. And the biggest spenders will be people who never even touched a Diablo title. Mobile MMO games, though, are a SICK TWISTED mindfuck of epic proportions. As a victim of the addiction, seriously don't go there. Its all going to be pay 2 win of the most vicious kind.
The over-monetization of games these days reminds me of the old arcade machines - where the games, rather than being designed to be fun and engaging, were instead made punishing in order to milk more quarters out of you. Funny how once technology improved and they moved away from that, the games industry became more profitable than anyone dared dream. After more than two decades, how is it that we're suddenly going backwards?
At least most arcade games only charged you a quarter, and they had gameplay mechanics more engaging and enjoyable then touching a screen and waiting hours for timers to run out. Arcade games definitely amped up the difficulty and control so people would be forced to pay more to play more. But that was still no where near as bad as today where gambling and no spending limits can drive people into bankruptcy. Unless you spend weeks at an arcade playing 24/7, that can’t happen. Comparing arcade games to current day mobile and loot box games is just insulting to the former.
When arcade games got popular owners sometimes literally rewired the machines to make them harder and get more quarters out of people, so the comparison seems apt.
@@zacharyheine4177 They didn't rewire shit. You're obviously under the age of 18. Arcade machines have something called dip switches. In essence a game would just have it's difficulty turned up. You young ones make shit up out of thin air and run with it as long as you can, before someone pulls you up on it, and then you have the temerity to act indignant when confronted with your own imbecility. Re wired....
Find an ex girlfriend that looked at you the way Piranha Plant looks at Jim, and I'll tell you the tale of a man that fell for that shit. Twice! I think the Piranah Plant is very aptly named. Either that or have a enemy called the venus fly twa*!
Hilarious though it may be, I feel Jim's painting with an EXTREMELY broad brush. Most of his complaints seem to focus on three companies (EA, Activision and Ubi).
I feel sorry for the audience at Blizzcon. Spending all this money to sit there, being presented with a PoS mobile game and then be asked: "Do you guys not have phones"? They might as well have shown them a board game: "Do you guys not have tables"? Coming to think of it, that would have been awesome.
@@toaster9922 but even then, he's closer to the SJW side of the spectrum, you can see where that comes from. saying he's a right wing troll is like claiming he's a martian with a straight face.
The "No, you don't. You think you do, but you don't" comment of 2018 by Blizzard. They've been out of touch with their gamer-base since the original comment went out in response of them canning a private server that wasn't even making personal money because there was a certain amount of players who LOVED vanilla WoW. That last thing any PC gamer at a PC-mostly event that they paid for wanted was an announcement of a MOBILE game. Jim nails it again in this video.
He was an ass, but he hasn't been proven wrong yet. We won't know if people really do want Classic until after it is out for a while. Personally, I'm predicting that it will be about as niche as the private servers after a couple of months once the initial hype dies down just due to the shear time commitment of the game which today's gaming demographic, or better yet, even the mmo demographic, just doesn't have time for. Which seeing as how the guy said things generally, it will mean he is right since in general people did not actually want to play Vanilla.
It really all boils down to this: People don't like playing games on their phones all that much. Well, okay, let me qualify that. People don't like playing games with mid-to-high levels of complexity on their phones all that much. Phones are absolutely smashing when you're playing puzzle games, or games that require no more than a couple of taps on the screen at a time. The phone isn't the correct device to play anything more complex than that because your hands and your eyes are at unbreakable odds with each other. Your fingers need to touch the screen, your eyes need to see the screen, it creates an intensely frustrating game experience!
yeah they reuploaded it like three times and eventually nuked the dislikes down... so Id say it would be in the running for most disliked video on youtube had they not done any of that.
Activision and Blizzard *merged* in 2007. They completed the merger in early 2008, a decade ago. That was before Starcraft 2 or Wrath of the Lich King. Not only that, but Blizzard retained full creative control when it came to the development and monetization and everything of their games. Activision doesn't dictate to Blizzard when it comes to what is in their games. Activision is a shit company in their own right (as Jim mentioned multiple times in his video), but don't push the blame off onto Activision just so you can protect your fanboy-ism for Blizzard's brand. They're the ones that made these decisions.
Well maybe our phones are so smart that they refuse to download any piece of s@### game that tries to make the user addicted to their phone ,because the phone doesn't want a wrecked battery. just kidding but seriously Blizzards fall from grace is both sad and funny. one day they are going to wake up and wonder where all there customers went.
If he hadn't taken some very stupid stances on some very straightforward issues in the past I'm sure he would. He's needlessly alienated a lot of his audience.
Who cares if he has a million subscribers? He gets Patreon support from his fans and his show is already viewed and appreciated by us that are already here. Not to mention at least 60% of one's subscribers don't watch your videos anyway these days.
It’s more the principal of the matter. Not for monetization. He’s been on fire lately pointing out the flaws with the industry and it’s a message more people need to be hearing. And yes I despised him for a long time up until about four months ago. So I understand the point about him alienating people early on.
@@Terkzorr I can vouch for the diminishing interest in video games. I've spent more time watching people complain about the industry than playing actual games this year. In fact I haven't booted a single one in over two weeks, although I've have other motives for neglecting my favorite hobby of all time. (Just being busy with other stuff really)
They want a loyal fanbase, they want a fanbase that is eager and excited. Then they want those in the fanbase to be basically sheep that can be channeled to whatever the hell they want to pull next, because, well, they arent really your audience, right? They are just the natural resource the company exploits to present a chart to the real audience - investors - and say "hey, our crap is selling like crazy and there is no amount of bullshit we cant cram down the throats of those suckers". And then they find out that hey... maybe that doesnt work as expected
Anyone who thinks Gamers are entitled; and that is 'bad', necessarily believes that these companies are entitled to our money, and our time. Just because you're making a game, does not mean you're 'entitled' to good sales. Owning a phone; does not mean I have to like your shitty game.
Well sometimes gamers can, like any other segment of the society, have a false sense of entitlement. For example when acts of threatening and terrorizing developers or critics occur over something some gamers do not agree with. However, here entitlement is not even a thing. Blizzard as a company is built on the foundation of hardcore pc gamers. We the lovers - and die-hard lovers - of Warcraft, Starcraft, WoW, HoTS, Diablo and even older classics such as The Lost Vikings, are pc gamers. We kept diablo as a series alive when over a decade all we had to work with was Diablo 2 and its expansion! Now first they water down Diablo 3 and take it to heights of corporate douchebaggery, and then they expect us to be excited about a mobile game? All those years - not hours, days or months, but years - of pc rts and rpg gaming, and they expect us to shift all that over to mobile phones for one lousy mobile game? If nothing else, this is a huge entitlement on the part of Blizzard. It's like having you set up a family in NY and then on a whim expecting you to move to a studio apartment in Wisconsin just because!
I've seen people say that not only Diablo Immortal but any criticism of any games as "entitlment", including the Mass Effect ending backlash and it's. fucking wild. Like criticizing a product isn't entitlement, especially criticizing a narrative product like a game, which is meant to have emotional and mental resonance.
Sometimes I feel the gaming press writes their articles for the developers and publishers, and not for the consumers.. It's like Jim said in the previous Jimquisition: Gaming media are a branch of game publishers' PR departments.
@@SidheKnight Oh yeah and the 'respected' ones like that Jason Shrier guy have now actively started defending microtransactions and calling anybody who criticizes microtransactions toxic. He's a fucking shill and so are most of them.
That all started with the L4D2 backlash to the backlash. So much failure to understand fundamentals there. Just people endlessly reacting to other people instead of the facts.
To people who pay for bells and whistles like microtransactions and defend it by saying it's your choice that's not hurting anyone; YOU did this. You taught them through your actions that they would be rewarded for shitting all over the video gaming industry. You fueled them into ruining gaming for everyone while we're already well on our way through a downward spiral into the next gaming crash. Petty as it may be, I'm glad to know that I'll be playing Disgaea 2, Fatal Frame and Resident Evil 4 while you have to find a new hobby because you can't handle not being able to keep trading cash for instant gratification in shiny new turds. I'm sure you can pick up a TCG so you can pay out the nose for rare, overpowered cards every time the rules change and new cards come out.
It's all about timing. Had they released this ALONGSIDE Diablo 4 or had a Diablo 4 teaser post Diablo Immortal, the backlash would not have as severe. Then add insult to injury by claiming they've put their BEST developers on mobile.. how pathetic.
or just not put it on a huge stage and just announce it on the schedule as "new mobile game" at the very least somewhere near the end of the event when everyone is packing their bags anyhow. But I'd have just not announced it at all.
They should have just announced it as the first or second thing to be buried with the rest, and had the Warcraft 3 remaster be the end cap, and this would have been a very different story. It's the obvious focus and pushing of this thing rather than the "here's this thing that we made because we like phone games" sentiment Bethesda took with Fallout Shelter and ES Blades. Or kept everything else, then capped off with a black screen and a burning "4" at the end, Nintendo style. So basically ANYTHING BUT THIS!
You will just have to pay 70 dollars to have the same result. Siiigh, i know some people are addicted beyong belief but at some point we ought to change. Then again Diablo 3 is more than likely enough to keep fans from spending money on that, as for casuals or new to this i doubt it is smth that you can play casualy in phone.
@@projectOMA Except for some bizarre reason that video is sitting at a shockingly good 2:1 dislike/like ratio. Probably because nobody gives a damn about MovieBob.
@@RubbeRxD - yeah. He bashed the entire gamer community calling them babies. He's pissed off his fans as well as those who heard about it from Quartering. Its pretty funny. I guess he's still angering those on twitter as well. So while Escapist is probably just a corporate shill, Pat has grown out of touch by attacking the same group that made him "famous"
Mobile games is something you play for 15 minutes while waiting for your bus, appointment or interview. It's not something you spend hours everyday playing, there's PC and Consoles for that. A 6 inch phone screen is NOT a gaming platform.
Or a dedicated portable device which you only do is gaming Rather than playing a battery killer game on a mobile when emergency strikes you're out of juice lol
I didn't realize that Exiled Kingdoms sucks. Or that Wayward Souls sucks. Or that Death Road 2 Canada sucks. Or that Dungeon Maker sucks. Huh. You know what? You're right. All of those games are trash and I'm just as trashy for putting well over 60 hrs into each of them. Because those games are only good enough to play for 15 minutes while I'm on the loo.
They do, people just don't get that their audience is no longer their loyal fans, but schmucks in china with phones that think microtransactions are cool, that's their audience, and they get their audience quite well, that's why they are doubling down on the mobile market. Now, is that smart?, no, because that has cost them around 3.4 billion dollars and a drop of their stocks of 50%, so... Regardless, they are as dumb as a bag of hammers.
Things to understand about most Diablo 3 players: 1. The majority of them don't have high end systems and as such they certainly don't have high end phones. 2. Diablo 3 wasn't created to be as challenging as World of Warcraft, which feulled their salt as being the try hard child of Blizzards titles. 3. PC players bash those that play Diablo 3 on consoles to make them feel like only truly skilled and hard-core players play the PC version. 4. Due to how elitest they portray themselves they often bash players that ask questions in the forums claiming they know the answer but instead flood you with insults. 5. With all things cobsidered the next instalment of Diablo content being on mobile is the ultimate insult, as a World of Warcraft player that puts a smile on my face, yes I've played Diablo 3, yes I cleared a season and played on the highest difficulty and cleared all the set dungeons on Wizard, it took literally 3 weeks to do that playing casually, the game isn't hard and those pretending to be elitest on it are laughable.
@@murciadoxial8056 Looks better now, good job. Just so you know the "schmucks in china" with phones have never been Blizzards audience until recently. Blizzard has always been a PC first company. Something has changed and it was not with the fanbase. It was Blizzard who changed...
I particularly agree with "Hate the company, not the individual". Attack Activision Blizzard by all means when it is justified. But don't pile on devs. Devs don't define the strategy of a company. They don't decide how the games will go.
Kamil Drews Oh that doesn't surprise me, coming from them. But people should know better than attacking devs, it's like attacking workers in a car factory because the price of the cars built there went up.
@@Grandleon Still, he really was surprised and confused on why the public reacted that way, so, he's also disconected from the fan base, therefore he's a part of the poblem.
I say that games monetisation as a whole should be regulated. There should be hard limits on what they're allowed to monetise, how much they're allowed to charge for it, and how much of it they're allowed to charge for. Because heck with it, the industry has lost all rights to set it's own rules, as they've shown themselves completely unwilling to conduct business in a manner that is fair and ethical.
I've got to say Jim, when I saw this was the topic of this week's Jimquisition I was a little bit scared. So many influential people in games who I've generally agreed with / have seemed to care about consumers took Activision Blizzard's side in this that it has been very depressing. Thankfully though you didn't side with the massive corporation so you could mock fans of a game being disappointed they're being set up to be ripped off. This genuinely seems to have been the motivation of so many people who up to now have acted as if they care about consumers are even anti-capitalist. I absolutely agree with everything you say. I honestly don't expect Diablo IV to be much better, if it is in development, so I wasn't expecting much from the Blizzcon reveal regardless but claiming people being upset were "toxic" and even on the extreme end were sexist/racist for not liking how shitty mobile games are was depressing as hell and directly playing into the hands of sexists/racists by tarnishing genuine campaigners for equality with cynical pro-corporate bullshit. Thank God for you Jim.
"So many influential people in games...took Activision Blizzard's side..." Names or it didn't happen. These ones deserve shaming too. The mobile market in general is indefensible at this point.
Ever since the merger, it's been ActiBlizz for me - but Blizzvision works too. YOU ARE NOW VIEWING IN..... BLIZZVISION - (which looks like a tiny phone screen with asset flipped NetEase properties incorporated into Diablo, yaaay)
Don't yoU guys have phone? Don't you guys have phone with unlimited data plan ? Don't you guys have pocket full of cash ? If not then stay away from Blizzard !
I have all three and I still stay away from blizzard! Post wrath of the lich king, right about when I discovered what the fight against Arthas boiled down to, (tank n spank), and realized that blizzard had run out of "juice" they will never, ever, have an original idea again. They went corporate, and that kills. Mostly consumers, but the corp will not give a shit. No humans inside the corp give a shit.
@@Jinisinsane Blizzard has to have PCs to make the game. So yes, but making games for multiple platforms would take WORK! And work is HARD! [I'm being sarcastic.]
Oh they learn, it's just all the wrong lessons. Todd thinks Skyrim succeeded because it gutted the complexity of the RPG, for example, even though the first mods out of the gate (besides the obligatory bug fixes and nude textures) were mods which tried to duct-tape the complexity back on
They will never learn anything tho Unless people making this practices profitable are called upon These companies are just mosquitos to where the blood is
Not really poor man's version, the game is introducing raids and dungeon instances things Diablo gamers have been begging for so they can say their fav game is more difficult than Warcraft.
My phone is the absolute last thing I turn to if I want to play a game. Its the red headed step child of gaming, the freak in the attic. The loser on the playground.
I'll never, no matter how hard I try, understand why people defend these companies. I'm not even against the idea of corporations trying to make as much money as possible, it's what they're _supposed_ to do, but I'm not going to go to bat for them. I'm not their damn mother lol. They waste more money in a day than I'll ever see in my entire life so there's no way in hell I'm going to white knight for them.
Because people invest too much of their self-worth in clinging to something. This is why when everyone decides to hate something, those who dare to say they like it are rewarded with death threats. People are just being fuckwits.
Defending these companies is no less absurd than the "console wars" that constantly inhabit the comment sections of gaming channels on UA-cam. Everyday people viciously going to bat for multinational, billion-dollar corporations who couldn't possibly care less about them and to whom they are nothing more than a dollar sign is the height of human stupidity.
I am against corperations making as much money as they can. There is only one direction to go to get the most money possible in the shortest time. And that's fraud. System is broken. But then, many people are broken.
It would be nice if ActiBlizz recognised the fans' opinion of this - if they wanted to they could turn it around by saying 'we're really lucky to have fans so passionate and have listened to your views'. 609k dislikes on that trailer video is 609k fans who are eager to purchase a PC Diablo game - and make no mistake having that number of passionate customers is good news for any company. Their silence is worrying however.
PeteyPianoHands Protesting loudly enough can work, like Hi-Rez rolling back the shitshow that was Paladins’ “Cards Unbound” update. Too bad they went right back to being Hi-Rez immediately afterwards, but still, it worked. What worries me the most is that society’s big fish, from corporations to politicians and every bugger in between, have learned that they can just ignore protest and go about their business unaffected. I don’t know about you, but I think that’s not okay...
What gets me is the apparent disconnect between the fanbase and the people on stage. They had genuine disbelief to the audience's reaction and it eventually turned into (tone deaf) self defense mode with "you guys don't have phones?" Comment. For the most part pc players have fairly expensive rigs for the sole purpose to have better experience than you would with console. Yet they dedicate their resources to something viewed as worse than consoles, a money grabbing p.o.s mobile game? Wtf do you think would happen.
It didn't come off as disbelief to me. I'm pretty sure the people who had to actually speak on stage knew exactly how it would be received, but what are you gonna do? You can't turn around and say "yeah, I've no idea what these shitheads were thinking", because those shitheads can get you fired.
@@anotherfacelessuser Doubtful, when you showcase a game to pitch to a live audience you never trot out one guy never mind three if you think it will receive a bad or even a lukewarm reception. It makes your game and company look worse then just playing a trailer than looking at dumbfounded presenters. I grantee they thought it would be like Bethesda when they announced a mobile game two years in a row. The just made a terrible miscalculation, Bethesda didn't replace FO4 or Elder Scrolls next successors with only a mobile game.
Consumer revolts are not in any way entitled. If anything, it's entitled for a company to believe it can walk-out anything it feels like and expect a positive reception. Diablo only exists as a series because of the devotion of its loyal fans. Blizzcon wouldn't even be conceivable without the outright love some people hold for the company and its IP's. To call it entitled for those fans to ask for something they actually want to buy is, well... that's what entitlement looks like, innit? Also, Jim, as a "right-wing fucknut evil person," I'mma say this: it is utterly inconceivable to me that anyone would think you're right-wing, but I don't disbelieve that you've been called as such. You're, at furthest right, a left-wing populist. But then, when we're talking about accusations of the sort, these are people who think anyone right of Chairman Mao is basically Nathan Bedford Forrest. Saying "The Holodomor happened" is... well, you get about the same reaction you would from telling Nazis that the Holocaust was real-you get accused of being a sheeple or propagandist for the _______ conspiracy. Extremist fucknuts have this odd tendency to attack anyone who isn't an also an extremist as "part of the problem."
In all of them, this is capitalism remember? If you have money you can just pay people to change the laws. And the only person who was even remotely considering a change to that system was a democrat, who naturally failed to get it through congress.
@Hollywood Purgatory Good luck keeping up that mindset. Video games have been a political issue (and a political target) since the 1980s. Likewise monetization and the influence corporations are allowed to have has been a political issue in America since the 1700s. If you'd like to keep deluding yourself, expect surprises like this to keep happening.
If you ask me, Activision is worse than EA when it comes to greed and predatory/manipulative monetization schemes. But EVERYONE was all focused on EA. Activision has been pulling this same, if not worse, monetization bullcrap than EA and they just slide under the radar. That pisses me off the most. No one remembers the Loot Boxes in CoD: AW that gave you variants of weapons that gave you an advantage of other players who did not have that variant. That was back in February 2015 and no can recall that.
It was because Blizzard shielded Activision's reputation for a long time now ever since they were purchased in the early 2010's. But the grace period could only last so long for the long time fans of Blizzard. I saw the demise after playing Destiny 2 and the cash grab called "eververst" was implemented to pay wall players who purchased the full game of Destiny 2. I usually gave Blizzard the benefit of the doubt, since I've been with them ever since 1995, but its almost completely gone. EA on the other hand, does not have, or never had this shield or loyalty from their player, which made people call out their blatant push for microtransaction easier. But I think most of the hardcore fans of Blizzard is beginning to wake up after this mockery, and hopefully we all become wiser game consumers, buying/purchasing things that add value or entertainment at a fair price. Otherwise, there won't be any point in gaming anymore, it'll just be a beautiful form of gambling, which most mobile games are.
Yes Jim, thank you. Your voice is so important. The numbers for these micro transactions are really just insane. Everyone should know that the actual developers, the texture artists, the generalists, don't get any significant portion of the micro transaction sales. Just take customization items for example. Activision pays a General 3D artist $20/hr(if they're lucky) or a salary(which would be even worse) to make a customizable item. Being generous lets say it takes 10hrs to complete a customizable skin for DLC. The skin costs $4.99 for the customer. The artist takes home $200 for their work. How much does the CEO take from this? Well the company sees that the skin over it's lifetime was purchased by 5,000 players. Or $24,950. I would wager that the higher ups take most of that for their bonuses. I left the games and visual effects industry because of numbers like these. Young, innocent people are being brainwashed into forking over their labor for a fraction of its value. I was one of them until I woke up to this fact. There are many like me and there will be more. $200 in labor cost for $25,000 in revenue. Still not enough for Activision shareholders.
God I felt SO BAD for the guy who had to do that reveal. It was so clear he was uncomfortable, it was so clear that he didn't deserve all of this, but he got shafted with probably one of the worst jobs he could have gotten for that conference. If I had been there all I would have wanted to do is just curl up and go away.
I felt bad for him, too. At least until the "Do you guys not have phones" line, which was just about the most disgusting, arrogant thing I've ever heard anyone say in regards to gaming and gets more and more despicable the more you think about it.
@@PhilosoraptorXJ Agreed, I've been in similar situations, though pointedly for an audience I had next to no information on beforehand, and it takes a lot to remember you're the "professional" and a humorous little crack back to you could be blown *way* out of proportion by the audience. Imagine that response in a small group of friends, it'd be a right lark for most of you and you'd move on. But at an audience, especially a customer base... Yeah, it's not great.
@@Force2reckonVods For real. I have to present meetings at my work and it is a nightmare trying to present to zombies or people who don't want to listen to you. I can't even imagine having to go in front of an audience like this.
Surprised that Jim didn't talk about the deleted dislikes. There are ways to track likes and dislikes on videos. As of the writing of this comment, the actual numbers of dislikes is 830,592.
That's more than likely, UA-cam, not Activ-Bliz. UA-cam has always been a little... unstable, with so many issues on peoples videos, this is likely just one more thing YT has fked up on. However, it's also likely that angry fans have purchased, or have used botting to spam the dislike button. In that case, YT has already got a track record of deleting those statistics and bot accounts. Personally, I think the latter is the cause, not Activ-Bliz directly, especially considering how... moronic, fanbases can be.
As mentioned in another comment on this thread, there's debate about whether the dislikes thing was actually Blizzard being malicious or just UA-cam being UA-cam. (SidAlpha made a great video on the topic which I would recommend watching) Given how zealous Jim can be, I'd imagine he didn't want to undermine his point with something that may not have been ActiBlizz's fault.
Meanwhile with Todd Howard fanning the flames of Fallout 76, as he sits on hundreds of millions of mobile game money Oh boy we got away from that trashfire, amirite Fallout shelter?
I'm disappointed that "Diablo Immobile" hasn't caught on as a nickname
Cause its been called "Diablo:Immoral"
hey leave Ciro alone
I'm disappointed my attempts to get it called "Diablo Go" failed.
Ooh... that's a new one I haven't heard yet... I like the sound of that.
I was using Diablo Immoral. But yours sounds better.
The funniest part is that in 2014 blizzard announced a Diablo mobile game called "Happy Reaper" as an April fool's joke.
And it's not the first time Blizz has made April Fools jokes become real. Hell, they made an entire WoW expansion off of one!
I hear that they're actually making that 'Heroes of Azaroth' game, good to see them embracing a new direction for the Warcraft world.
(Before anybody gets snippy I actually have the original versions of Warcraft 3 and it's expansion sitting on my self, it's just one of my favourite April Fools jokes from them)
Even funnier, back in the days of Diablo 1 and 2, Blizz were twice considering make a Diablo game for Game Boy, but didn't think it was financially viable lol.
Its not the funniest part, It just show that you have no understanding in how much the industry has changed in those four years.
the Irony is stunning, fuck blizzard and fuck activision
*Do you guys not have money for loot boxes?*
Do you guys not love getting nickle and dimed to death?
I spend my money on hookers and beer...
You can steal moms credit card too
Clap clap clap
do you guys not have enthusiasm for a vigorous reaming?
Do your moms not have credit cards?
This is the best comment I've seen on this entire issue yet
MUM buy me V-bucks.
jim sterling a right wing fanatic!?!?! ha! HA! i say!... no thats ridiculas!... he is clearly a spy sent by the reploid neo-nazi american alliance to moniter the progress of project M.A.G.A so far championed as the slogan make america great again, but is in reality an acronim for their true! plan... merged audience global assimilation wake up people! WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TO LATE WE'V GOTTA STOP EM!!!!!!!
@@shardinhand1243 you sound like a left wing making a fool out of themself by trying too hard to be right wing.
@@romanplays1 :D i dont like ether side of politics i dont trust fanatic pack mentality in politics, you should reavaluate your self, and why you chose to make your political views a relegion... or not etherway im done with you ^^
Blizzcon 2013: 'You don't want WoW Classic. You think you want it, but you don't.'
Blizzcon 2018: 'Here's D3 Mobile! You don't think you want it, but you do.'
I was actually going to give the upcoming WoW Classic servers a go. But now... Eh, fuck it...
That was 5 years ago?! Damn.
Well, no one really wants classic wow... Those servers will be dead 2 months after launch.
@Metadragon142 If classic really is that bad, then I guess I'm not touching WoW, period, because I absolutely hate the changes since Cata... really, the only thing I'd miss is the Pandarean race.
This phenomena should already be called as "Nokia syndrome" as this kind of thinking was exactly what eventually destroyed Nokia in mobile phone industry and it will certainly also destroy Activision Blizzard if they do not go back to customer oriented business models as you can't tell your customers what they should like in your opinion versus what they actually want.
I have a phone. I also have a wallet. Neither will open for Diablo Immortal.
I will give them money, if the game doesn't have micro transactions! That chance is about 0.00001% 🍄
You still use a flip phone, brudda?
@@schregen Don't do it, they'll probably just release the base game without microtransactions for like the first month then flip on the switch like they did with call of duty.
amen, its just shitty reskin of shitty mobile rip offs of diablo, the company makes them are just pure shit
Im not opening my phone because i will probably not be able to reassemble it, but im also not playing diablo immortal.
*don't you guys have a sense of pride and accomplishment?*
Jm 115
Don’t you have a phone?
@Kamil Drews HA!
@Josue Cabrera you're better off just tying it onto a stick and using it as a high-level bludgeoning weapon.
Don’t you have gay?
After news of not just ActiBlizz but also EA stocks dropping like a rock, oh most definitely.
Its like announcing an xbox exclusive in front of ps4 hardcore gamers in a sony convention...
and then raping their childhood on stage...
thank you
not just that ... they also let an 'inexperienced' developer do the reveal.
I think the reaction could have been better (or at least less negative) if one of their big guns had annnounced it.
But then they probably saw it coming and found a reason not to be the poor sob who had to do it.
It is like announcing the next xbox exclusive at a sony convention and it is the next God of War Game.
@@baronsengir187 That would be acually better than this pile of shit
Funny how a diablo mobile game was a joke to blizzard only 4 years ago.
A diablo flappy-bird-like mobile game*
@@Kolvarg Actually would rather play that, at least the touchscreen works for simple games like that, fuck touchscreen with action games.
@@yuesu2325 Agreed. I remember going from D2 to D3 and thinking "damn, everything looks so small now. Can't see the cool details on my character anymore". I can't imagine (let alone SEE) how I could play a Diablo 3 spinoff with my thumbs taking up 25-30% of the screen space on a smartphone, plus how much it would kill my battery life and data limits since "always on-line".
Activision happened
I instantly thought of this in response.
Funny how a diablo mobile game was a joke to blizzard only 4 years ago , Now Blizzard is the joke!
"you're entitled" is the latest corporate scam - a way to make you feel ashamed for speaking out against low quality products. The reality is, ESPECIALLY when you purchase a product, you ARE LEGIT entitled to it working well and having basic features and expectations met without it being crap.
Being entitled is not a negative thing.
Gamedevs who complain about "entitlement" are themselves entitled, believing they deserve clients. If the clients don't want your shit, that's it.
@Madam Meouff Well, that would be just as stupid, albeit very very funny.
They should just all go back to being neutral, this way they aren't pissing off half of the player base.
@@StrazdasLT Depends. "Entitled" as in being spoilt is not a good thing.
@@Morten_Storvik Entitled means that you are entitled to get something. As in, for example you own a title of a land. Then you are entitled to use that land. The whole corelation between entitled and spoiled is just bullshit propaganda to writeoff people who are demanding what is rightfully theirs.
"Hey. Let's turn Command and Conquer into a horrible mobile game." - EA
*"Hey. Let's turn Diablo into a horrible mobile game." - Blizzard*
Activision Blizzard*
FUCK BLIZZARD the last Good game they ever made was Diablo 2 on pc.......fuck people who say what about WOW fuck you, guild wars 2 beats you.
*Giant backlash*
"Hey. Let's turn ALL our IP's into horrible mobile games." - Also Blizzard
Activision Jizzard.
AB: Hey Let's shoot ourselves in the foot!
People have genuinely called Jim alt-right? That's adorable.
The "alt" stands for "alternative". I suppose you could, sort of, qualify "left" as "alternative right", in the same way that a zombie is "alternatively alive"
Yea, it's genuinely hilarious. Jim is an anti-corporate leftist. People clearly don't know what words mean.
@@lilylopnco also true
@@amberblackwell7687 The alt right is also anti corporate.
@@johnmarks9994 No they aren't. They only claim to be so when conservatives get banned from twitter or when corporations like Blizzard appease China. They don't give a shit about: crunch, worker's rights, living wage, etc.
People think you're *right* wing for not defending multibillionaires? Political illiteracy on that level is weird.
In their eyes, they are defending their pals, the workers in the games industry when they defend an Activision-Blizzard or an EA or their microtransactions or whatever.
@@NatrajChaturvedi Come on now.... At least half of them are Blizzard shills....
I honeslty don't know what the hell is going. One second the right-wingers are complaining that Jim is too SJW, and now there's apparently people thinking he's right wing? I guess it's true what they say, to these people, if you don't align completely with them, you must be on the complete opposite side of the spectrum lol.
Nobody actually knows what the parties stand for any more. Left and right have become nearly meaningless perjoratives used by people who believe they're on the opposite side.
The authoritarians are winning, we've gotten so radically it's become impossible for us to cooperate, so now candidates only have to swing tiny populations to gain power, undermining the Democratic process. Both sides are doing this equally fervently.
@@KotsarisGR Of course that as well
*Toyota reveals new shoes*
Car show audience: Boooooo!
Toyota: Don't you guys have feet?
*guy without legs*:No!
@@differentlyabledmuslimjewi4475 this is a username I can get behind
@@Tittilover But is he non binary though...
Shoes are not to cars, what mobile games are to PC games.
@@doubtfulguest5450 No, I have a better analogy. Porsche announces that they are developing a new 9/11 model car. But that model will be a budget mini coupe.
*Do you guys not have $600 more dollars 💵 to spend on microtransactions in a $60 game?*
its more like $6,000
Lol a lot more than 600 if we're talkin fifa money lol
We know a developers are fishing for "whales". What if the tapered the rewards for whales? I the first purchase was an excellent, let's say lvl 1 item and when the whale reaches final level it takes 10 purchases to "by chance win" a useful item...
How greedy are developers that put loot boxes in their games? Would as JS mentioned with C.O.D. patch them in later?
shut up... this PHONE GAME is gonna cost 60 quid?!
Do you guys not have wallets?
To those not understanding the April fools joke thing... a few years back blizzard announced a new diablo mobile game around april 1st and it ended up being an April fools joke... until now I suppose?
It's now twice more hilarious when putting it on an actual context! 😂
OH MY GOD... 😂
@s p l a y e r c: it's not an april fool's joke now... someone stood up and asked if it was an April's fools joke. The origin of this is that blizzard "leaked" diablo mobile game years before this was announced as a joke because at the time they thought it would be a joke to do something like this
@@soloplayzz3553 but can we be sure he was referencing that older joke? i mean, asking "if this is a out of season april fools joke" isn't really an indicator for that... could be just as well coincidence... only the guy who spoke the words knows the truth
Don’t forget: During a follow-up panel, Blizzard did say that their top developers would be working on Mobile entries for ALL of their IPs
Yes, they didn’t just double-downed; they triple-downed on being completely out of touch
Karmas Camera they think we’re out of touch, bc everyone has a phone. Aaaaand they are bad for gaming. Like, how do you micro? How’s the framerate, why not also have it on pc?
Oh fuck that was real? I thought that was a fucking nightmare I had. Holy shit. Activision-Blizzard really is a dead company to me...
@@Bananahammock681 They also said that they stop playing Pc games and play mostly on the phone.
With other words: The make the game for themselves and not their fans.
This needs to be pinned. WE MUST ALERT THE MEDIA!
overwatch on watch... insider info. don't spread it too much. need to short some socks.
dO yOu GuYs NoT hAvE pHoNeS?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?
Not one that can play your mobile garbage activision blizzard
@@undead9736 yeah me to
This broke me. I had to pause to stop laughing! :)
Best. Save. Ever.
"You don't need phone's where you're going"
The irony of "Immortal" dying before it even exists....
waht is dead can never die.
Meh, the Chinese market will make them their money.
@@penaxor Oh for sure, like i bet that's the only reason they made the game, tbh the main stupid idea was to show it off at a western event
well immortal means not mortal and mortal means capable of dying, dead things cant die and so if before it exists it is already dead then at no point of its existence it is capable of dying, it is therefore not mortal and so is in fact immortal.
Diablo Immortal didn’t just die. It never lived at all!
FHJGKFHDGKJLH Jim Streling is literally the most socially progressive worker protecting lefty on gaming youtube and people are calling him a right wing reactionary? I'm crying
@Broken Gamerthat would be most republican's dream. Then the free market would truly be able to decide what is best
Broken Gamer and communism in theory is good for the common folk. But both these things in practice don't work out that way
What in the god damn fuck is with this left and right bullshit? Someone with certain opinions and views automatically gets lumped into a group with millions of other people? Yeah, what a great fucking way to look at people and how they work. Just give them some political labels, regardless if they actually give a flying fuck about politics, and problem solved.
Looks like trolling
EA's shares Down almost 40%. Please do that next.
it would just be a video of him laughing for fifteen minutes straight while footage of pink Darth Vader played in the background
...actually I'm down for that. I also vote for this Lord Jim
Wait, really?!
You're shitting me!
Which has very little to do with BlizzCon. Stop believing every stupid lie, clickbait video you watch.
@@warriorcrab1319 October 17 the price of each share was 108.79 and november 9 was is 88.89.
those of Activision Blizzard are down by something like 25% now as well, big corps are finally getting their asses handed to them it seems even by stockholders.
Some idiot: "But Jim, Activision Blizzard doesn't make enough money so they had to move Diablo to mobile."
Ah, so that's why they're giving away a billion lootboxes with chips and junk food and branded cereal!
Some Idiot: I still give money to Activision
Correction: Activision Blizzard doesn't make ALL money...
That is the most stupid argument I have never understood how people make that argument the numbers speak for themselves
They might as well have announced a Pachinko machine.
People would have applauded pachinko
maybe if we joke about it enough, it will come true like diablo mobile did. Then I can really laugh.
Pull the lever!!!
P U L L T H E L E V E R
@@unimprezzedmclastname4220 ... So we can hang ourselves.
I remember when Activision bought Blizzard, and how they said that Activision would not interfere with Blizzard's business practices. I thought yeah, they won't interfere.... _at first_ ...sigh...
Sega said the same for Atlus but now they are slowly pulling it more under their name. Ebgames was good before GS ate them. None of these ever come out good.
@@Gamemaster-64 : ( the decline of Atlus has been the saddest thing, and you could see it right away. Pulled the personal blog entries, closed down the forums (admittedly, there wasn't that much traffic), and a slow crawl of shitty practices.
RIP.
We all wanted to believe. But deep down, we all knew.
Activision-Blizzard sent Wyatt Cheng on a suicidal mission by putting the poor guy on stage.
He was _not_ prepared in the slightest.
Then again, the backlash was inevitable.
Watt Chang was warned months ahead of time. Maybe a year. Everyone else heard illidan. He chose not to listen.
This here is why stage fright is such a common phenomenon. So many pairs of eyes focused on you, ready to turn on you at the slightest mistake. But what Activision-Blizzard sent Wyatt Cheng to tell them wasn't so much a mistake as it was a pratfall straight into a Bond villain's piranha tank.
They sent him on a Kamikaze mission.
For those wondering, the movie at the beginning is "Event Horizon". If you love horror and SF, it's quite good.
Cerberus Xt creepy as hell, one of the few movies which actually scared me :p
IDK that clip looked pretty dumb, could just be way out of context but gods....so lifeless
@@Asguard82 it could have been much worse. Look the set pieces removed from the final film on google, its fucking metal !
@@Asguard82 www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/event-horizon/265839/exploring-the-deleted-footage-from-event-horizon
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage
I think if you see it in context you'll get it. The movie has some insane gore/practical effects/mindfuck type of stuff going on in other scenes.
Honestly, this weird desire that people seem to have to defend any shitty corporation against any backlash, and somehow labeling that backlash as "right-wing" is revolting.
i've seen that a lot, and it's concerning as hell, to somehow try to associate left and corporations, it's just backwards.
I think its because instead of a constant stream of criticism with the corporation "gamers" stay passive until a minor thing sets them off and all of a sudden it's GG 2.0. Like compare how much complaining there is for this game as compared to DRD2 and their controversy over forced work hours. Add to that actual right-wing shit stirrers like "the quartering" placing themselves at the center of the outrage as "pro-consumer" and it's a really bad look.
What you guys call "the left" pretty much is center right, which is pretty pro corporations. Non of your shitty democrat politicians would fall on the left side of the political spectrum. Not even bernie sanders.
It's only more hilarious because of all the AAA publishers, Activision Blizzard donates the most to the Right.
Blood Machine These boot lickers are always going where the winds blow against the fans. These journalists or UA-camrs insulting the fans have no
@@Pawg_Alf Yeah, I think a lot of games journalists still have shell shock from the absolute shit show of the 2014 harassment/misogyny campaign. They automatically assume any "gamer" backlash is in the same category as GG and so they have to treat it as such, even when, as in this case, it clearly isn't. And as you mention the right-wing trolls will take any opportunity to try to fan the flames to "red pill" (indoctrinate) a few more disaffected young men to their side. The legacy of GG continues to poison the discourse and I don't see any signs of it getting better.
What do these journalists even mean by "entitlement"? We are the source of their revenue as a company, it's only normal that they should seek to satisfy us if they want to stay in business. There's no need to sugarcoat this, feel bad for their feely feels, because all of this is pure business. AAA games have forgone the art piece title and their artistic integrity a long time ago to become pure objects of business, and I refuse to ever give credit to a AAA company's "artistic vision", because there is none. They make a product to satisfy their client. They do a bad job? The client speaks up. That's not to say that people working for these companies don't put passion in their work, in fact I feel bad for the development team on D:I who must've been excited to show what they were working on only to get boo'd to fuck, but I'm fairly certain that they don't take it personnaly, because it's a BUSINESS.
'Entitlement' is a buzzword today currently used in the game company/game 'journalism' circles to shame people who complain about crappy products or expect an actual project with a complete experience given to them for their expense, like they used to get years ago. The big companies funnel $$ into journalist companies to attack the people attacking them to make them look bad. It's propaganda more or less, and the word 'entitled' is used to describe a lot of people today who are upset about the way things are run by their corporate overlords. You hear it a lot. 'Entitled Gamers', 'Entitled Millenials' and so on and so forth. Not only is it a bogus way of deflecting the anger at the people who genuinely deserve to be angry at the bullshit, it's usually used incorrectly in the first place.
It's like when A Hat in Time was marketed as a casual game & one of the kickstarter rewards was "completely free" DLC chapters but then the DLC came out, was only free for a day (unless you were a backer), & was one of the most hardcore, unfair, unfinished, buggy, trial-&-error, out of place things to ever come out of the gaming industry & people who criticized it were called entitled crybabies by other customers even though the store page tells a mix of misleading info & actual lies & even though the DLC openly contradicts every bit of design philosophy ever described by its lead dev so you can't even say he tried to make it good unless you're a liar.
Toxicity has been on the forefront of a lot of people's minds lately thanks to extreme examples such as Waluigi fans harassing Sakurai on social media, so I think the idea is to try and discourage that sort of entitled behavior. The issue is that not all harsh and hyperbolic criticism is toxic behavior. Toxic behavior is targeted at harming or devaluing individuals, hence Jim reinforcing the idea to not harass people with names despite his strong criticisms. By contrast, claiming that an announcement is an April Fools' joke isn't harmful or devaluing any individuals, it's just mocking the decision itself. And I think Blizzcon attendees have the right to harshly criticize this kind of thing after paying hundreds of dollars to attend Blizzcon, especially if they didn't get much else that they were anticipating when they spent that money. Unfortunately toxic mentalities as a whole are currently so far in the forefront of our minds that it's easier to make the mistake of overgeneralizing the definition of toxic behavior and lumping the term with behaviors that aren't actually toxic. Entitlement IS a problem we need to do something about, this Blizzcon reaction just has absolutely nothing to do with that problem.
Totally agree. I don't understand how you call a customer base "entitled" because they aren't getting what they want. This industry's entire existence is based on giving people the entertainment they want. The games industry is getting flat out told by its fans what kind of games they are interested in, but instead they are shoveling out predatory shite with no actual content because it makes them more money. THERE is your entitlement, game publishers. You call your customers entitled when things don't sell well enough and when things aren't received the way you want them to be. YOUR fucking source of revenue. Well, YOU are not "entitled" to people's money, fuck heads.
Cameron Barenbrugge well said. I really never understood this basic principal and how it gets distorted into this ideology of disingenuousness. We all know a company starts out by totally focusing on what the consumer wants. They get bigger and continues to get feedback so they can stay relevant to the consumer base. Then they reach the level where shareholders come in to play to make decisions that are not representative of the consumer base and naturally the consumer reject to this. But then the script changes and people call the consumer entitled when they are the ones paying the money to keep the company going it’s asinine but so prevalent. Thanks
If Jim Sterling can see everything; can he see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
It's more sugar than they get in other foods in an entire week, it doesn't need Jims help to suss that out.
Are you fucking crazy? Do you want to summon the Cinnamon Toast Homunculus?
@@AuspexAO The Cinnamon Toast Homunculus is the cousin of the Cornflake Homunculus
We are made men by the crunch. Undone by the crunch.
...Breakfast foods all over the shop... You'll be one of them, sooner or later...
EA : *shoots itself in the foot*
Blizzard : WATCH THIS *cuts whole leg off*
Bethesda is about to hand over their beer.
@@Amos-Timmy-Burton no. bethesda behead their own head in front of their audience
@@blackwood4734 .......the joke was "hold my beer" then doing something even stupider.... dumbass
Bethesda just shoved a flamethrower in their mouth, mistaking it for a beer.
The fact that they then fumbled with the TRIGGER on their beer/flamethrower is a manuever of such utter stupidity, that it could be mistaken as thinly veiled, premeditated suicide...
Limping billionaires...still making millions off the hundreds of thousands who have nothing better to spend their money on...apparently.
Wtf?
Honestly, i'm more upset about Blizzard getting in bed with those snakes over at NetEase.
It's like watching your washed up childhood hero getting in bed with an *Ugly Bastard.*
They have been working with NetEase sense 2008!
@@woodstock179 *Since.
Your childhood hero? Carlos, mate, have you been living under a rock? Auction House, Online DRM, Loot Boxes...
yeah like activision is good boi
Diinix dont say mean things like that
Just checking in during September 2019, the Diablo Immortal trailer currently has a like : dislike ratio of 29k : 751k
If they don't care about us, why should we care about them?
You shouldn't. Why in the world would you EVER care for a company? They sell things, you buy things. The relationship should never go any further than that.
We should care for them because they said so. That's our purpose as consumers - to jizz money into their offshore bank accounts and thank them for the opportunity.
We are addicts, and they have the drugs we want: games news, IP, and games themselves.
Sweet! Then shut-up and go find another company to worship who really "cares about you"!
Companies don't care about you. They might say nice things to look like they do, but in the end, they have to make money.
-Diablo Immortal announced as a mobile game.
-Activision not satisfied with cod blops 4 "only" making $500 million in it's first three days.
-Activision deciding that instead of making Destiny 2 a more appealing game, the way to fix it's failure is to stuff more monetization into it.
-Activision sneaking microtransactions into cod blops 4.
-Blizzard press conference revealing that all of it's best devs have been shifted to mobile projects.
What we're seeing here, ladies and gentlemen, is the beginning phase of CraptiBlehzurd deciding to go full Konami.
That would be a good outcome, really. At least they wouldn't take up a space on store shelves.
I thought everyone knew by now that you never go full Konami.
Soooo... when do we get Diablo Pachinko machines?
CraptiBlehzurd, nice name, gotta stick it to them!
@@RTheren I'd say six months...maybe a year, tops.
My big question for ActiBliz: If you're (obviously) making a game to take advantage of the gambling-addicted, phone-obsessed Chinese market, why are you hosting Blizzcon here and not in China? You made the game for them, not for us. Go announce it there. Shoo.
Because shareholders only know that those games make money, not the details like who is buying it.
This is why Diablo Immortal is most likely going to succeed. Blizzcon made a clear show of PC gamers hating it. That isn't going to stop hundreds of millions of players in China eating it up.
Differently Abled Muslim Jewish Lesbian of Colour No, I’d say that shareholders are quite aware that the mobile gaming market is huge in China and Japan and that’s why Immortal was made. As for announcing it at Blizzcon in the USA where mobile gaming isn’t very big...who the hell knows what happened.
I have to agree
This is a beautiful but 100% true comment. Asian markets will EAT this game up. All the negative press aside, these guys will make millions off this enterprise. And the biggest spenders will be people who never even touched a Diablo title.
Mobile MMO games, though, are a SICK TWISTED mindfuck of epic proportions. As a victim of the addiction, seriously don't go there. Its all going to be pay 2 win of the most vicious kind.
The over-monetization of games these days reminds me of the old arcade machines - where the games, rather than being designed to be fun and engaging, were instead made punishing in order to milk more quarters out of you. Funny how once technology improved and they moved away from that, the games industry became more profitable than anyone dared dream. After more than two decades, how is it that we're suddenly going backwards?
At least most arcade games only charged you a quarter, and they had gameplay mechanics more engaging and enjoyable then touching a screen and waiting hours for timers to run out.
Arcade games definitely amped up the difficulty and control so people would be forced to pay more to play more. But that was still no where near as bad as today where gambling and no spending limits can drive people into bankruptcy. Unless you spend weeks at an arcade playing 24/7, that can’t happen.
Comparing arcade games to current day mobile and loot box games is just insulting to the former.
When arcade games got popular owners sometimes literally rewired the machines to make them harder and get more quarters out of people, so the comparison seems apt.
@@zacharyheine4177 They didn't rewire shit.
You're obviously under the age of 18.
Arcade machines have something called dip switches.
In essence a game would just have it's difficulty turned up.
You young ones make shit up out of thin air and run with it as long as you can, before someone pulls you up on it, and then you have the temerity to act indignant when confronted with your own imbecility.
Re wired....
Capitalism ≠ Progress
Find a plant that looks at you the way Piranha Plant looks at Jim.
This is good memes.
Lol!
Find an ex girlfriend that looked at you the way Piranha Plant looks at Jim, and I'll tell you the tale of a man that fell for that shit. Twice!
I think the Piranah Plant is very aptly named. Either that or have a enemy called the venus fly twa*!
I have that puppet on laybuy
I'm here for Jim saying "Tripple AAAAAAAAA!!!!".
*ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
lol
Hilarious though it may be, I feel Jim's painting with an EXTREMELY broad brush. Most of his complaints seem to focus on three companies (EA, Activision and Ubi).
I only say it like that now
@@jesuszamora6949 they are the big three fuckups that have ruined games.
@@Bagheera2 Only if you buy from them mainly. Honestly, I buy so little from those three companies that I feel very little effect.
I feel sorry for the audience at Blizzcon. Spending all this money to sit there, being presented with a PoS mobile game and then be asked: "Do you guys not have phones"?
They might as well have shown them a board game: "Do you guys not have tables"?
Coming to think of it, that would have been awesome.
Abaris84 to be fair, now anyone who went can proudly boast about being present for the infamous Diablo Immortal reveal
I'd buy a Diablo board game...
Good god, that would have been awesome, Diablo TTRPG
I mean, hell, Diablo's pretty much an actiony tabletop
I´d play the board game or P&P system
...I've heard people call Jim an SJW nut, but never a right-wing conspiracy theorist. That's like, mirror universe levels of inaccurate.
he is neither.
@@toaster9922 but even then, he's closer to the SJW side of the spectrum, you can see where that comes from. saying he's a right wing troll is like claiming he's a martian with a straight face.
@@Yal_Rathol He is a British Martian.
Watching this all these years later is absolutely buck-fuckin-wild
The "No, you don't. You think you do, but you don't" comment of 2018 by Blizzard. They've been out of touch with their gamer-base since the original comment went out in response of them canning a private server that wasn't even making personal money because there was a certain amount of players who LOVED vanilla WoW. That last thing any PC gamer at a PC-mostly event that they paid for wanted was an announcement of a MOBILE game. Jim nails it again in this video.
“You want this. You think you don’t, but you do.”
They literally said that to someone who wanted an older version of WoW? What a buncha pricks.
He was an ass, but he hasn't been proven wrong yet. We won't know if people really do want Classic until after it is out for a while. Personally, I'm predicting that it will be about as niche as the private servers after a couple of months once the initial hype dies down just due to the shear time commitment of the game which today's gaming demographic, or better yet, even the mmo demographic, just doesn't have time for. Which seeing as how the guy said things generally, it will mean he is right since in general people did not actually want to play Vanilla.
I would care about classic if Blizzard used it as an opportunity to FIX THE LORE. But, they're not going to do that.
@The reality you fear Read what I said again.
It really all boils down to this: People don't like playing games on their phones all that much.
Well, okay, let me qualify that. People don't like playing games with mid-to-high levels of complexity on their phones all that much. Phones are absolutely smashing when you're playing puzzle games, or games that require no more than a couple of taps on the screen at a time. The phone isn't the correct device to play anything more complex than that because your hands and your eyes are at unbreakable odds with each other. Your fingers need to touch the screen, your eyes need to see the screen, it creates an intensely frustrating game experience!
Not even close to the issue. Massively scaled back game that will likely be pay to win is the issue.
I don't understand why a game like this is on mobile. Mobile is for long trips or traffic jam, so you can pass the time. Not games like diablo.
@@ghoulishgam3r508 Both the issue
A single player only game has DRM.
Boo! 👎
*do you guys not have Internet?*
Aaron Pride that's still not as bad as "We have a console for people who don't have internet, it's called Xbox 360"
Do you guys not have Xbox Live?
I half expected the crowd to start throwing their phones on the stage followed by a lot of booing.
I kind of want to see a riot bust out at one of these things. Someone just needs to throw a chair.
They probably would have if smartphones weren't so expensive.
Yeah i imagine a tomato being thrown
Trying to hide dislikes - That's a paddling!
Broadside on to a battleship?
yeah they reuploaded it like three times and eventually nuked the dislikes down... so Id say it would be in the running for most disliked video on youtube had they not done any of that.
@@Shiirow
Activision shouldn't reupload the videos, they should double down and take pride in surpassing Infinite Warfare.
Asking people if they have phones - You better believe that's a paddling.
i am obligated to read that in jingles' voice
The name of the company is Activision Blizzard.
There's a reason the name Activision comes first.
Activision and Blizzard *merged* in 2007. They completed the merger in early 2008, a decade ago. That was before Starcraft 2 or Wrath of the Lich King. Not only that, but Blizzard retained full creative control when it came to the development and monetization and everything of their games. Activision doesn't dictate to Blizzard when it comes to what is in their games. Activision is a shit company in their own right (as Jim mentioned multiple times in his video), but don't push the blame off onto Activision just so you can protect your fanboy-ism for Blizzard's brand. They're the ones that made these decisions.
Blizzard did an April Fools joke like that before. The guy who said "is this an out of season April Fools joke?" was referring to that.
When / wat was the joke?
There was also an actual april fools joke some years ago, about a diablo mobile game. It was actually a joke like 4 years ago.
"Do you guys not have mobile phone"?
Nope. Sold mine for a *PC*
Stunned that the 'dont you guys have phones' quip didn't lighten the mood! 🤔😂🤑
I'm stunned it didn't light the whole place on fire.
Well maybe our phones are so smart that they refuse to download any piece of s@### game that tries to make the user addicted to their phone ,because the phone doesn't want a wrecked battery. just kidding but seriously Blizzards fall from grace is both sad and funny.
one day they are going to wake up and wonder where all there customers went.
I do have a phone, I also have a microwave, doesn't mean I want to play Diablo on the Mother #$%er.
It's like gamers can't take a joke. When it's on them.
@@Stevey2578 Yeah, fuckin' gamers right Stevey
The fact that Sterling does not have over a million subs at this point is criminal
If he hadn't taken some very stupid stances on some very straightforward issues in the past I'm sure he would. He's needlessly alienated a lot of his audience.
Who cares if he has a million subscribers? He gets Patreon support from his fans and his show is already viewed and appreciated by us that are already here. Not to mention at least 60% of one's subscribers don't watch your videos anyway these days.
It’s more the principal of the matter. Not for monetization. He’s been on fire lately pointing out the flaws with the industry and it’s a message more people need to be hearing. And yes I despised him for a long time up until about four months ago. So I understand the point about him alienating people early on.
@@Terkzorr I can vouch for the diminishing interest in video games. I've spent more time watching people complain about the industry than playing actual games this year. In fact I haven't booted a single one in over two weeks, although I've have other motives for neglecting my favorite hobby of all time. (Just being busy with other stuff really)
They want a loyal fanbase, they want a fanbase that is eager and excited.
Then they want those in the fanbase to be basically sheep that can be channeled to whatever the hell they want to pull next, because, well, they arent really your audience, right? They are just the natural resource the company exploits to present a chart to the real audience - investors - and say "hey, our crap is selling like crazy and there is no amount of bullshit we cant cram down the throats of those suckers".
And then they find out that hey... maybe that doesnt work as expected
Anyone who thinks Gamers are entitled; and that is 'bad', necessarily believes that these companies are entitled to our money, and our time.
Just because you're making a game, does not mean you're 'entitled' to good sales.
Owning a phone; does not mean I have to like your shitty game.
Teryel gamers can and are very frequently entitled and childish. Just not in this case
Well sometimes gamers can, like any other segment of the society, have a false sense of entitlement. For example when acts of threatening and terrorizing developers or critics occur over something some gamers do not agree with. However, here entitlement is not even a thing. Blizzard as a company is built on the foundation of hardcore pc gamers. We the lovers - and die-hard lovers - of Warcraft, Starcraft, WoW, HoTS, Diablo and even older classics such as The Lost Vikings, are pc gamers. We kept diablo as a series alive when over a decade all we had to work with was Diablo 2 and its expansion! Now first they water down Diablo 3 and take it to heights of corporate douchebaggery, and then they expect us to be excited about a mobile game? All those years - not hours, days or months, but years - of pc rts and rpg gaming, and they expect us to shift all that over to mobile phones for one lousy mobile game? If nothing else, this is a huge entitlement on the part of Blizzard. It's like having you set up a family in NY and then on a whim expecting you to move to a studio apartment in Wisconsin just because!
Do you guys not have endless amount of disposable money to throw at us?
Wrong people to ask tho they should've ask Chinese/Koreans that question lol
Oh shit. It's officially Monday!
It’s more Monday than Monday
This is the kind of quote id wear as a shirt
I've seen people say that not only Diablo Immortal but any criticism of any games as "entitlment", including the Mass Effect ending backlash and it's. fucking wild. Like criticizing a product isn't entitlement, especially criticizing a narrative product like a game, which is meant to have emotional and mental resonance.
It is if you are a media outlet getting bags of money on the side to ignore any flaw on the products.
Sometimes I feel the gaming press writes their articles for the developers and publishers, and not for the consumers..
It's like Jim said in the previous Jimquisition: Gaming media are a branch of game publishers' PR departments.
@@SidheKnight Oh yeah and the 'respected' ones like that Jason Shrier guy have now actively started defending microtransactions and calling anybody who criticizes microtransactions toxic. He's a fucking shill and so are most of them.
That all started with the L4D2 backlash to the backlash.
So much failure to understand fundamentals there.
Just people endlessly reacting to other people instead of the facts.
Except the product isn't being criticized. The product isn't out yet and probably isn't even finished.
To people who pay for bells and whistles like microtransactions and defend it by saying it's your choice that's not hurting anyone; YOU did this. You taught them through your actions that they would be rewarded for shitting all over the video gaming industry. You fueled them into ruining gaming for everyone while we're already well on our way through a downward spiral into the next gaming crash. Petty as it may be, I'm glad to know that I'll be playing Disgaea 2, Fatal Frame and Resident Evil 4 while you have to find a new hobby because you can't handle not being able to keep trading cash for instant gratification in shiny new turds. I'm sure you can pick up a TCG so you can pay out the nose for rare, overpowered cards every time the rules change and new cards come out.
It's all about timing. Had they released this ALONGSIDE Diablo 4 or had a Diablo 4 teaser post Diablo Immortal, the backlash would not have as severe. Then add insult to injury by claiming they've put their BEST developers on mobile.. how pathetic.
Fallout shelter anyone?
Their best developers and project managers already left the company, some even years ago. So them saying that... means little.
or just not put it on a huge stage and just announce it on the schedule as "new mobile game" at the very least somewhere near the end of the event when everyone is packing their bags anyhow. But I'd have just not announced it at all.
They should have just announced it as the first or second thing to be buried with the rest, and had the Warcraft 3 remaster be the end cap, and this would have been a very different story. It's the obvious focus and pushing of this thing rather than the "here's this thing that we made because we like phone games" sentiment Bethesda took with Fallout Shelter and ES Blades. Or kept everything else, then capped off with a black screen and a burning "4" at the end, Nintendo style. So basically ANYTHING BUT THIS!
Or somekind of companion app to diablo 4 would have worked
*Don't you guys have time to grind 6 hours every day?*
on a phone with a 2hr battery life
You will just have to pay 70 dollars to have the same result. Siiigh, i know some people are addicted beyong belief but at some point we ought to change. Then again Diablo 3 is more than likely enough to keep fans from spending money on that, as for casuals or new to this i doubt it is smth that you can play casualy in phone.
Yeah but that's what Warframe Is for
No.... If only there was a way I could pay to skip it....
You must be new to the Diablo series, friend.
The Escapist just came out with a video today calling gamers entitled and not having a clue why gamers were so mad too.
Sounds like they want to compete with Blizzard and PatTheNESPunk for the most disliked video on YT.
@@projectOMA Except for some bizarre reason that video is sitting at a shockingly good 2:1 dislike/like ratio. Probably because nobody gives a damn about MovieBob.
@@projectOMA Pat the nes punk?
@@RubbeRxD - yeah. He bashed the entire gamer community calling them babies. He's pissed off his fans as well as those who heard about it from Quartering. Its pretty funny. I guess he's still angering those on twitter as well. So while Escapist is probably just a corporate shill, Pat has grown out of touch by attacking the same group that made him "famous"
@@ludwigziffer6895 - i see that. Guess Pat has him beat right now for the hate.
Mobile games is something you play for 15 minutes while waiting for your bus, appointment or interview. It's not something you spend hours everyday playing, there's PC and Consoles for that. A 6 inch phone screen is NOT a gaming platform.
This guy gets it
Or a dedicated portable device which you only do is gaming
Rather than playing a battery killer game on a mobile when emergency strikes you're out of juice lol
I didn't realize that Exiled Kingdoms sucks. Or that Wayward Souls sucks. Or that Death Road 2 Canada sucks. Or that Dungeon Maker sucks.
Huh. You know what? You're right. All of those games are trash and I'm just as trashy for putting well over 60 hrs into each of them. Because those games are only good enough to play for 15 minutes while I'm on the loo.
Kaynos people emulate games on their phones though...
How do I get my console or PC playable on the bus though?
I swear that "Do you guys not have phones?" would become an meme for late 2018.
It's like EA. _"The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment..."_
Dude it's already a meme, do you not have a phone?
"Do you developers not understand your own audience?"
They do, people just don't get that their audience is no longer their loyal fans, but schmucks in china with phones that think microtransactions are cool, that's their audience, and they get their audience quite well, that's why they are doubling down on the mobile market.
Now, is that smart?, no, because that has cost them around 3.4 billion dollars and a drop of their stocks of 50%, so... Regardless, they are as dumb as a bag of hammers.
Things to understand about most Diablo 3 players: 1. The majority of them don't have high end systems and as such they certainly don't have high end phones. 2. Diablo 3 wasn't created to be as challenging as World of Warcraft, which feulled their salt as being the try hard child of Blizzards titles. 3. PC players bash those that play Diablo 3 on consoles to make them feel like only truly skilled and hard-core players play the PC version. 4. Due to how elitest they portray themselves they often bash players that ask questions in the forums claiming they know the answer but instead flood you with insults. 5. With all things cobsidered the next instalment of Diablo content being on mobile is the ultimate insult, as a World of Warcraft player that puts a smile on my face, yes I've played Diablo 3, yes I cleared a season and played on the highest difficulty and cleared all the set dungeons on Wizard, it took literally 3 weeks to do that playing casually, the game isn't hard and those pretending to be elitest on it are laughable.
@@murciadoxial8056 Your poor use of the English language makes it impossible for me to take you seriously. "Stop it. get some help."
@@Tavicx Because I misspelled a word?...
@@murciadoxial8056 Looks better now, good job. Just so you know the "schmucks in china" with phones have never been Blizzards audience until recently. Blizzard has always been a PC first company. Something has changed and it was not with the fanbase. It was Blizzard who changed...
I particularly agree with "Hate the company, not the individual". Attack Activision Blizzard by all means when it is justified. But don't pile on devs. Devs don't define the strategy of a company. They don't decide how the games will go.
Kamil Drews Oh that doesn't surprise me, coming from them. But people should know better than attacking devs, it's like attacking workers in a car factory because the price of the cars built there went up.
Exatly spam @blizzard or @diablo_imortal all you want but leave individuals alone
Also I hope anyone getting angry at Wyatt Cheng just takes a moment to remember that he is a huge reason Diablo 3 was saved in the first place.
Wedge I feel sorry for all the backlash he's getting just because he was tasked with presenting the game.
@@Grandleon Still, he really was surprised and confused on why the public reacted that way, so, he's also disconected from the fan base, therefore he's a part of the poblem.
Criticizing the criticism of the criticism? Dammit Blizzard.
I say that games monetisation as a whole should be regulated. There should be hard limits on what they're allowed to monetise, how much they're allowed to charge for it, and how much of it they're allowed to charge for. Because heck with it, the industry has lost all rights to set it's own rules, as they've shown themselves completely unwilling to conduct business in a manner that is fair and ethical.
that intro with event horizon really made me crack up.
Thank you for existing, Jim.
Thank god for him :)
Jim doesn't exist, Jim is a social construct, that is why he can guess the future, for he is withing the mind of everyone.
I've got to say Jim, when I saw this was the topic of this week's Jimquisition I was a little bit scared. So many influential people in games who I've generally agreed with / have seemed to care about consumers took Activision Blizzard's side in this that it has been very depressing.
Thankfully though you didn't side with the massive corporation so you could mock fans of a game being disappointed they're being set up to be ripped off. This genuinely seems to have been the motivation of so many people who up to now have acted as if they care about consumers are even anti-capitalist.
I absolutely agree with everything you say. I honestly don't expect Diablo IV to be much better, if it is in development, so I wasn't expecting much from the Blizzcon reveal regardless but claiming people being upset were "toxic" and even on the extreme end were sexist/racist for not liking how shitty mobile games are was depressing as hell and directly playing into the hands of sexists/racists by tarnishing genuine campaigners for equality with cynical pro-corporate bullshit.
Thank God for you Jim.
They're likely going to throw a slapdash Diablo IV together just to quell the outrage.
It won't work.
Dude when has jim ever sided with these scummy companies
Thank you for putting that into something nice and succinct for me. I was still gibbering with rage about this.
"So many influential people in games...took Activision Blizzard's side..." Names or it didn't happen. These ones deserve shaming too. The mobile market in general is indefensible at this point.
@@whyme777x kinda funny games podcast, they pretty much lost me as a listener
Acti-Blizz? Not bad. Personally, I prefer Blizzivision, myself.
Ever since the merger, it's been ActiBlizz for me - but Blizzvision works too. YOU ARE NOW VIEWING IN..... BLIZZVISION - (which looks like a tiny phone screen with asset flipped NetEase properties incorporated into Diablo, yaaay)
When the movie Warcraft came I call them Blizzard China it's only a matter of time before it became official lol
Activsion-Blizzard, or Actard for short
Sounds like you're trying to reference Intellivision and Colecovision too, builds on gaming history. I dig it.
Hmm, "blizz-vision". Sounds short-sighted, terribly unclear and probably formed in circumstances that could charitably called "unwise". I like it...
Don't yoU guys have phone?
Don't you guys have phone with unlimited data plan ?
Don't you guys have pocket full of cash ?
If not then stay away from Blizzard !
I have all three and I still stay away from blizzard! Post wrath of the lich king, right about when I discovered what the fight against Arthas boiled down to, (tank n spank), and realized that blizzard had run out of "juice" they will never, ever, have an original idea again.
They went corporate, and that kills. Mostly consumers, but the corp will not give a shit. No humans inside the corp give a shit.
"if not, then stay away from blizzard!"
k
Dont you guys have pcs?
@@Jinisinsane Blizzard has to have PCs to make the game.
So yes, but making games for multiple platforms would take WORK!
And work is HARD!
[I'm being sarcastic.]
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become Diablo.
This comment deserves all the upvotes.
Activision-Blizzard would probably have been a better fit than Diablo, but both work.
*konami
"Where we're going, we don't need...phones..."
Blizzard: "Don't you guys have phones?!"
Me: "Better, we have enough sense to not buy crap."
Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything, tehehe
Oh they learn, it's just all the wrong lessons. Todd thinks Skyrim succeeded because it gutted the complexity of the RPG, for example, even though the first mods out of the gate (besides the obligatory bug fixes and nude textures) were mods which tried to duct-tape the complexity back on
They will never learn anything tho
Unless people making this practices profitable are called upon
These companies are just mosquitos to where the blood is
Oh, Yahtzee, you SCAMP, you.
Don’t you guys love playing poor man versions of hit games on a four inch screen?
Don’t you fools like micro transactions?
I don't know. I don't have a phone😢.
4 inch? Haha more like SIX FULL INCHES, yeah baby, you heard right. Impressed? 🍄
@@schregen Compensating for something?
Not really poor man's version, the game is introducing raids and dungeon instances things Diablo gamers have been begging for so they can say their fav game is more difficult than Warcraft.
My phone is the absolute last thing I turn to if I want to play a game. Its the red headed step child of gaming, the freak in the attic. The loser on the playground.
you telling people to to hate the company not the people, is exactly the reason I think "thank god for jim sterling" isnt just hyperbole.
Nick MaGrick It’s “Jim Fucking Sterling Son”
Whenever I see AAA batteries in a store or at home, I hear Jim's voice saying "Triple A"
It's got me not wanting to use them anymore :/
Jim Sterling is where I come to get my Alt-Right Conspiracy Gamer News.
You can tell the two apart by who sells dodgy supplements like SUPER MALE VITALITY and who just sells T-shirts
Waters making the demons gay
I'll never, no matter how hard I try, understand why people defend these companies. I'm not even against the idea of corporations trying to make as much money as possible, it's what they're _supposed_ to do, but I'm not going to go to bat for them. I'm not their damn mother lol. They waste more money in a day than I'll ever see in my entire life so there's no way in hell I'm going to white knight for them.
Because people invest too much of their self-worth in clinging to something. This is why when everyone decides to hate something, those who dare to say they like it are rewarded with death threats. People are just being fuckwits.
Sentimentalism and not wanting to admit they're wrong. And the occasional paid reviewer.
Defending these companies is no less absurd than the "console wars" that constantly inhabit the comment sections of gaming channels on UA-cam.
Everyday people viciously going to bat for multinational, billion-dollar corporations who couldn't possibly care less about them and to whom they are nothing more than a dollar sign is the height of human stupidity.
I am against corperations making as much money as they can.
There is only one direction to go to get the most money possible in the shortest time. And that's fraud.
System is broken.
But then, many people are broken.
People support these companies the same way racists support Government that kill black people.. it pays the bills with ignorance.
I WANT THAT PIRANHA PLANT HAND PUPPET
Clearly whats really needed is a Jim Sterling hand puppet!
@@robikkupegasus7039 admit it, all you really want to do is. Being able to say that you had your hand up Jim Sterling's arse. :)
@@theblackbaron4119 Trust me, the Romero Brothers will do worse with that hand puppet...
www.thinkgeek.com/product/jpip/ There you go. ;-)
In retrospect, I maybe should have picked one up when they were selling them by the bucketload at a local convention.
It would be nice if ActiBlizz recognised the fans' opinion of this - if they wanted to they could turn it around by saying 'we're really lucky to have fans so passionate and have listened to your views'. 609k dislikes on that trailer video is 609k fans who are eager to purchase a PC Diablo game - and make no mistake having that number of passionate customers is good news for any company. Their silence is worrying however.
PeteyPianoHands
Protesting loudly enough can work, like Hi-Rez rolling back the shitshow that was Paladins’ “Cards Unbound” update. Too bad they went right back to being Hi-Rez immediately afterwards, but still, it worked.
What worries me the most is that society’s big fish, from corporations to politicians and every bugger in between, have learned that they can just ignore protest and go about their business unaffected. I don’t know about you, but I think that’s not okay...
Do you guys not have Gods, to thank for Jim ??
I'd thank Jim if he could cajole Bitmap Brothers into re-releasing Gods.
No, I'm too poor to have gods. They require too much money.
Some of us prefer to thank for real things and not for badly written fairy tale beings.
Be careful, you might cut yourself with that edge.
Jim called Piranha Plant. How can I thank God for Jim, when Jim seems to be a god himself?
Mobile, where good game series’ go to die.
Pretty much. It's an effective way to ensure fans stop asking for a sequel you don't wanna do.
Does that mean that Breath of Fire is AS DEAD AS Command And Conquer?
fuck me if it does
@@SamuelWellsZahn RIP Valkyrie Profile too =(
The literal only mobile game ill defend is bloons TD 5 lol
Except RuneScape
What gets me is the apparent disconnect between the fanbase and the people on stage. They had genuine disbelief to the audience's reaction and it eventually turned into (tone deaf) self defense mode with "you guys don't have phones?" Comment. For the most part pc players have fairly expensive rigs for the sole purpose to have better experience than you would with console. Yet they dedicate their resources to something viewed as worse than consoles, a money grabbing p.o.s mobile game? Wtf do you think would happen.
It didn't come off as disbelief to me. I'm pretty sure the people who had to actually speak on stage knew exactly how it would be received, but what are you gonna do? You can't turn around and say "yeah, I've no idea what these shitheads were thinking", because those shitheads can get you fired.
@@anotherfacelessuser Doubtful, when you showcase a game to pitch to a live audience you never trot out one guy never mind three if you think it will receive a bad or even a lukewarm reception. It makes your game and company look worse then just playing a trailer than looking at dumbfounded presenters. I grantee they thought it would be like Bethesda when they announced a mobile game two years in a row. The just made a terrible miscalculation, Bethesda didn't replace FO4 or Elder Scrolls next successors with only a mobile game.
Consumer revolts are not in any way entitled. If anything, it's entitled for a company to believe it can walk-out anything it feels like and expect a positive reception. Diablo only exists as a series because of the devotion of its loyal fans. Blizzcon wouldn't even be conceivable without the outright love some people hold for the company and its IP's. To call it entitled for those fans to ask for something they actually want to buy is, well... that's what entitlement looks like, innit?
Also, Jim, as a "right-wing fucknut evil person," I'mma say this: it is utterly inconceivable to me that anyone would think you're right-wing, but I don't disbelieve that you've been called as such. You're, at furthest right, a left-wing populist. But then, when we're talking about accusations of the sort, these are people who think anyone right of Chairman Mao is basically Nathan Bedford Forrest. Saying "The Holodomor happened" is... well, you get about the same reaction you would from telling Nazis that the Holocaust was real-you get accused of being a sheeple or propagandist for the _______ conspiracy. Extremist fucknuts have this odd tendency to attack anyone who isn't an also an extremist as "part of the problem."
You're too clever for this industry, Jim.
Yep.^^ Jim Augent Sterling Son could make Jimquisitions about anything and they'd be great.
A can of paint is to clever for the industry.
Well, of course. He was born clever, born knowledgeable.
He's Said what other critical you tubers say too
There’s no defense of how gamers were attacked over this
In all of them, this is capitalism remember? If you have money you can just pay people to change the laws. And the only person who was even remotely considering a change to that system was a democrat, who naturally failed to get it through congress.
@@animorph17 To me, this isn't even a political issue. Yet lesser minds have turned it into one.
@Hollywood Purgatory Good luck keeping up that mindset. Video games have been a political issue (and a political target) since the 1980s. Likewise monetization and the influence corporations are allowed to have has been a political issue in America since the 1700s. If you'd like to keep deluding yourself, expect surprises like this to keep happening.
@@animorph17 Not even what I'm talking about.
If you ask me, Activision is worse than EA when it comes to greed and predatory/manipulative monetization schemes. But EVERYONE was all focused on EA. Activision has been pulling this same, if not worse, monetization bullcrap than EA and they just slide under the radar. That pisses me off the most. No one remembers the Loot Boxes in CoD: AW that gave you variants of weapons that gave you an advantage of other players who did not have that variant. That was back in February 2015 and no can recall that.
It was because Blizzard shielded Activision's reputation for a long time now ever since they were purchased in the early 2010's. But the grace period could only last so long for the long time fans of Blizzard. I saw the demise after playing Destiny 2 and the cash grab called "eververst" was implemented to pay wall players who purchased the full game of Destiny 2. I usually gave Blizzard the benefit of the doubt, since I've been with them ever since 1995, but its almost completely gone. EA on the other hand, does not have, or never had this shield or loyalty from their player, which made people call out their blatant push for microtransaction easier. But I think most of the hardcore fans of Blizzard is beginning to wake up after this mockery, and hopefully we all become wiser game consumers, buying/purchasing things that add value or entertainment at a fair price. Otherwise, there won't be any point in gaming anymore, it'll just be a beautiful form of gambling, which most mobile games are.
Don't forget about the "peacekeeper" gun in Black Ops 2 that was a DLC WEAPON and was extremely overpowered...
Nobody is worse than EA
@@You0nlyLiveonce Well Activision is pretty damn close.
@@You0nlyLiveonce Still stuck in the circle jerk, huh?
12:19 "Hate the company, not the individual."
YES. YES. THIS ALL THE WAY, *THANK YOU* JIM!
Best intro ever!
Event Horizon
Ine of the best horror movie ever seen.I
Jim fking sterling son not the garme jurnalist we deserve but the one we need.
Oh, Jim. You know I'm a sucker for event horizon references.
IKR? Underrated movie.
Captian Nemo criminally underrated. But then again; fuck Paul W. Anderson for what he did to Resident Evil, The Three Musketeers among others.
Yes Jim, thank you. Your voice is so important. The numbers for these micro transactions are really just insane. Everyone should know that the actual developers, the texture artists, the generalists, don't get any significant portion of the micro transaction sales. Just take customization items for example. Activision pays a General 3D artist $20/hr(if they're lucky) or a salary(which would be even worse) to make a customizable item. Being generous lets say it takes 10hrs to complete a customizable skin for DLC. The skin costs $4.99 for the customer. The artist takes home $200 for their work. How much does the CEO take from this? Well the company sees that the skin over it's lifetime was purchased by 5,000 players. Or $24,950. I would wager that the higher ups take most of that for their bonuses. I left the games and visual effects industry because of numbers like these. Young, innocent people are being brainwashed into forking over their labor for a fraction of its value. I was one of them until I woke up to this fact. There are many like me and there will be more. $200 in labor cost for $25,000 in revenue. Still not enough for Activision shareholders.
Please predict a HD remaster of the Timesplitters series at your earliest convenience.
... and a new F-Zero game would be nice, too. RIP Timesplitters... you are sorely missed.
@@SeriousMcnegative [monkey's paw] F-Zero... with limited boosts that you can pay to increase!
Legacy of Kain remake
Legacy of Kain remake
Don't forget to also wish that it's not altered in shit ways upon release. Such as locking original game mechanics behind ridiculous pay walls.
God I'm hard just thinking about a Timesplitters re-MAKE.
Didn’t Blizzard actually do an April Fools Joke about a Diablo mobile game tho?
Yeah i honestly don’t know the details other than they teased diablo on mobile.
God I felt SO BAD for the guy who had to do that reveal. It was so clear he was uncomfortable, it was so clear that he didn't deserve all of this, but he got shafted with probably one of the worst jobs he could have gotten for that conference. If I had been there all I would have wanted to do is just curl up and go away.
I felt bad for him, too. At least until the "Do you guys not have phones" line, which was just about the most disgusting, arrogant thing I've ever heard anyone say in regards to gaming and gets more and more despicable the more you think about it.
@@ludwigziffer6895
I feel you, but I think the poor dude was just trying to be funny.
@@PhilosoraptorXJ Agreed, I've been in similar situations, though pointedly for an audience I had next to no information on beforehand, and it takes a lot to remember you're the "professional" and a humorous little crack back to you could be blown *way* out of proportion by the audience. Imagine that response in a small group of friends, it'd be a right lark for most of you and you'd move on.
But at an audience, especially a customer base... Yeah, it's not great.
@@Force2reckonVods
For real. I have to present meetings at my work and it is a nightmare trying to present to zombies or people who don't want to listen to you. I can't even imagine having to go in front of an audience like this.
Hahaha how innocent we were, not realizing just how aggressive the monetization systems would be.
Surprised that Jim didn't talk about the deleted dislikes. There are ways to track likes and dislikes on videos.
As of the writing of this comment, the actual numbers of dislikes is 830,592.
@@bree320 just the new one. You enter any video's URL, and it will tell you the current number of likes, and dislikes.
That's more than likely, UA-cam, not Activ-Bliz. UA-cam has always been a little... unstable, with so many issues on peoples videos, this is likely just one more thing YT has fked up on. However, it's also likely that angry fans have purchased, or have used botting to spam the dislike button. In that case, YT has already got a track record of deleting those statistics and bot accounts. Personally, I think the latter is the cause, not Activ-Bliz directly, especially considering how... moronic, fanbases can be.
As mentioned in another comment on this thread, there's debate about whether the dislikes thing was actually Blizzard being malicious or just UA-cam being UA-cam. (SidAlpha made a great video on the topic which I would recommend watching) Given how zealous Jim can be, I'd imagine he didn't want to undermine his point with something that may not have been ActiBlizz's fault.
Nice
Mobile. Where franchises go to die. Rip Breath of Fire.
yoooo don't remind me of that wound.... I was hoping for a breath of fire rep in mvci... nope...
Why must you hurt me in this way?
Damn man, right where it hurts
Thanks for reminding me breath of fire was a thing now if you excuse i'm going to cry myself into sleep
Ooof.
God DAMN.
diablo immortal will be the new dungeon keepr mobile
Meanwhile with Todd Howard fanning the flames of Fallout 76, as he sits on hundreds of millions of mobile game money
Oh boy we got away from that trashfire, amirite Fallout shelter?