Retconning Thor to be the son on The Phoenix was total BS. Being the son Of Gaia has EVERYTHING to do with Thor’s everyday doings. It ties him to the Earth and its people and the lore is EPIC. Ecstatic that Marvel has decided to return and revisit this storyline.
@IStevenSeagal Why bring up sides to begin with? Comic books dabble in politics left and right (no pun intended), but this isn't really one of those times...Lighten up a bit.
All you have to do is create your own little Comics and see how far they go. someone might want to narrate them. But at the end of the day you're doing nothing but listening to somebody so listen.
Not gonna lie but Atum/Demogorge seems like the first Sentry/Void. At least in my opinion. It’s about time marvel started doing more with their old gods 😌
Marvel didnt invent that, but their level of knowledge on all thing mythology is astonishing. I still say comics are the epitome of mythology, the stories are so much deeper than surface level!
I would actually love to if they retconned Sentrys origin to have been originated(atleast his powers) from Atum or an aspect of him unknowingly extracted from the scientists who created the Sentry formula. (I think it may have already been hinted at that he created the formula using a mixture of super soldier serum and high/concentrated exposure to radiation from the sun.) A.k.a.... an aspect of Atum.
@@mr.bandicoot2139 Hell, the aspect of the Sentry and the Void could probably be tied back over to Lifebringer One and the Anti-All along with Atum/Demogorge.
Al Ewing, the writer of this story hinted in his defenders series Sentry and the Void are aspects or just the Lifebringer-one(the first Sentry) and Anti-all(the primordial void). It may be that Atum and Demigorge are aspects of Lifebringer-one and Anti-all.
I think it does matter that Gaia is Thor's mother. It kinda explains why he's always been attracted to Earth. He feels connected to it. So, I have to disagree with you.
I think it doesn’t matter because everyone is the child, grandchild ect. Of gaia all of the Gods after her are direct offspring from Norse to Greek to Egypt Gods. To humans or whatever other beings are her offspring. Her and Uranus gave life to everything so bring her child is insignificant. Humans are all her great grandchildren. The only thing that lived before her is chaos which is just everything
@@xavierholden3443 If we think that way, then nothing matters. It doesn't matter if Peter Parker and MJ are not together anymore, for instance. They're all Gaia's children anyway.
The phoenix is also attracted to earth.. hence why it’s chooses a telepath hosts. This also doesn’t align with mythology which if you want that go read actual mythology. This is fiction as it was meant to be.
@oluwadamilola6233 I mean, we had Galactus as "God", then we had the Beyonder, then the living Tribunal, and then it kept going on and on and on, so I would wait before talking about Marvel gods beings straight up unbeatable omni-present God because everytime there is one, another shows up and is "more powerful"
Thor visits Gaea, Gaea states humans suck because we're haughty, destroying the Earth, and think the Earth was made for us (which isn't too much different than us being made for the Earth, but whatever, comics), Captain Planet appears, Ted Turner appears, a bunch of hippies chain themselves to a tree, the Italian Native American from the commercials in the 70s appears, Greenpeace appears, Mr.Beast and Team Trees appears- Rob: This is when you realize the whole story is actually an environmentalist story.
When you consider that humans are animals, creatures created by nature, and thus are an extension of nature's laws, then you realize that human activity is part of nature's "plan" all along. Yes we either realize we fooled around and found out some stuff is bad for us and it was best to stop. But even if we went full tilt balls to the wall and destroyed the current ecosystem, it is as part of that same ecosystem, as a force of nature, what nature made us. This sort of preaching in media is so freaking tiresome and obviates the human animal fact. Nihilistic BS.
And the answer to Gaia is "If you wanted us to be less ravenous then stop making beings that would literaly do this given the chance and quit it with the moral bs when you have none. Humans know this and the smart ones are trying to make sustainable systems."
I'm pretty sure that the Thor "relaunch" is running in parity with Immortal as a "Roxxon produced" story. Also Gaea being Thor's mom has always mattered lol
slight miscalculation Thor is still the direct child of Odin and Gaea and Thors Father and Brothers created the All force which the Asgardian king inherits all of the previous power of the last king. SO Thor really isn't half of anything Thor went blow for blow with Bor and he was holding back his power.
It is canon that Thor was created to protect Earth. He is like a living contract between Odin and Gaea. Due to the Asgardians craving worship from humans. But the Celestials limited all Pantheons of gods having contacts with humans. So Odin found a flaw in the decree by fathering Thor with Gaea who infused her essence with the planet Earth. So Gaea,Cthon and Set are technically siblings. Therefore they are Thor's uncles?
most powerful until marvel is like “that was only a manifestation of the pinky finger of the weakests of 4 brother beings actually and now we need these mcguffins to survive”
@@KingDues maybe but my pathetic mortal body requires sleep at the worst of times... That's why i appreciate being woken up not to miss the things that really count^^
Thor has actually fought Atum in the core of the sun before and actually hurt him by infusing his lightning with the essence of Atum and angered him enough to transform into the demorgorge.
3:00 They took that conversation straight out of the 38th Chapter of JOB. Job 38:4 "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding." Nothing new under the sun -> Ecc 1:9
This conversation also takes place in Immortal Hulk. They actually use that quote word for word as it’s written in Job, unlike here, where it’s paraphrased.
Most of what Gaea said was true from the early Dr Strange and the old suspense books but that was Thor's attachment to Earth, Rob's right this time, he's the strongest
Even with the Generational "miscegenation" of power: 1. The Odin force is the power of 3 gods from the generation preceding Thor's 2. Thor is half first generation god. King Thor should be plenty powerful enough to at least put up a fight against the elder gods.
Not at all, the elder gods in their true forms predate creation, Gaia for example of her name pre creation was cleito alongside Adam kondman which is another name for eternity, they took physical form on earth which marked the heart of eternity, elder gods don't only symobize aspects of nature but fundamental aspects of Existence, Life, Evil, Change, Destruction, Creation... Cthon is feared by cosmic abstracts, Thor or any other godhead in the second generation of gods don't stand a chance against the elder gods
I thought the All Father power was a power multiplied by the powers of past All Fathers and Thor's Family Line. Is that not the case? Also is there no way that Thor couldn't access the Ruin King status?
Writers and Comic Book Characters like Superboy-Prime that can leave the white pages of the comics. The one above all can not leave the comic and neither can the Presence in DC. This was explained in Lucifer. SBP and others with writers abilities are above these comic gods.
It was set. In the 'atlantis attacks' series in the late 80's, they had back up stories that went over the creation of the earth, celestial, eternals, etc. Set and chthon were originally divine God beings who devolved into Major demons after they started eating their fellow elders and absorbing their powers. Set was the first murderer. Eventually Gaia banged Demiurge and birthed Atum, a sun god, who took on all the fallen elder gods, absorbing them and turning into the Demogorge. A being so powerful that Set and Cthon sh!t their pants and fled the 616 dimension. Demogorge managed to revert to Autum by 'purging' the evils and demonic energy he absorbed but this may have resulted in the creation of Mephisto and other major demonic beings. It would explain why mephisto focuses so much time on earth.
In actual Norse myth, Tiwaz was another name for Tyr, God of justice and law. Idk if Marvel changed that around, but I've never heard Buri referred to as Tiwaz. Just being pedantic.
@Tecnofanb0y I readily admit that I haven't read enough Thor. Which seems strange given my fascination with Norse myth. I appreciate the knowledge tho, thank you.
Meanwhile over in X-Men: Unlimited not even a full year ago, Gaea abandoned Nature Girl as one of her children because Nature Girl had decided to raze humanity to the ground to save flora and fauna. Gotta love the lack of editorial communication at Marvel.
she tells Thor he's her mercy to humanity so maybe nature girl was supposed to be like that instead of a genocidal maniac. Meaning only gaea can decide when to end life
I always thought Marvel could have just squared the circle around Gaea and the Phoenix, and made them the same person for the sake of Thor's origin. Both are canonically avatars of Life, so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say Gaea has an innate connection to the Phoenix, fueling her own powers. And the Host of the Phoenix force who was depicted as Thor's mother happened to be a projection of Gaea she created from her exile to enter Midgard, who through that connection was predisposed to channel that power. It's about as plausible as anything else around that whole topic and solves that problem by keeping both versions as true.
why would gaea need the phoenix force? it has nothing to offer her. and they're not the same concept, gaea is the embodiment of life while the phoenix embodies death and rebirth. and pls thor simply does not have any connections with that burnt pigeon keep it very far away from him.
@@Tecnofanb0y That's not at all what I'm suggesting. I'm saying to give them a thematic connection, similar to how Hel acts as an aspect of Mistress Death in her function as the keeper of an afterlife.
Oh, Robs talking about Thors parentage... I'll wager any amount of money he's going to mention Phoenix was hinted to be his mother and how he prefers that route
Hunh. Gaia's questioning of Thor sounds a lot like it got it's inspiration, or at least a good chunk of it, from God's questioning of Job, in that self-titled book from The Bible.
given the aspects thing from what we saw with loki, and since you noted he summoned her, i feel is possible that this is just an avatar of her's a physical form she manifests as to interact
Yeah no,he used all the power cosmic within him or at least most of it to create a super powered god blast to kill Galactus and black winter, since then he's gotten the totality of the Odin force which is nice
Isn't this the same basic idea of when the mutants fought the Eternals and then the Celestial decided Earth wasn't worth saving... that was not that long ago.
I'm really curious about how the celestials and the elder gods see each other. Like, does Gaea have tea time with Mistress Death on occasion since death is a part of life? Has Gaea ever slapped the crap out of Galactus for trying to eat her? There are so many cosmic level interactions that they could do, that they should do, that they won't do.
I just remembered, when Thor pulled Storm away from the battle of Arakko he said that he would paybher pack in kind and fight any war on her behalf when called. Couldn't Thor be used in this manner in the upcoming Mutant Human Machine war? Especially since he is the protector of Midgard & Midgard is looking to be unalived in the next few stories it might make a interesting twist. Also Ironman is still out their, Cap & Fisk (not sure what he do), also if this is a Mutant-Human-Machine War then where does the rest of the Marvel earth bound heroes and villians play into this? Or will they keep this a x-men thing minus the characters we have already seen (the 3 mentioned, Deadpool, Nova if he is alive,and others)?
No but scarlet witches is sort of, he was created by the demiurge and scarlet witches son is destined to be the next demiurge, she also gained her chaos magic abilities from cthon but she's since surpassed his level of power
I like Thor realized this was getting outside his pay grade, his mom won't have it, big bro is out there and all out god still might happen. Where is Thor to do beat up Dario, if I am not mistaken was the fall guy for Hulk to resolve some issue Roxxon was at fault for with an original Hulk type character by splitting Dario's head open.
You can tell Rob hasn’t even read this Thor run or paid attention to solicits cause that is not all what happens at the end or what is happening in the series.
Well Done as usual. I don't like the new Marvel order. The Living Tribunal now being on levels equal to Oblivion. Galactus now always being a beat up toy. I miss the old days
So did they just forget about Thor and Atum's fight in Thor 705 or is that just non-canon now? Atum is absolutely more powerful but they've absolutely fought before.
Hmm. I could swear that Thor DID meet Atum one time and fought him back in Atlantic Attacks. Also according to the Marvel Wiki Atum goes by the name Amon Ra these days (Yeah, Ra leader of the Egyptian deities). So Marvel must be playing games with stuff (big surprise). sm
@@Tecnofanb0y are you arguing with marvel? Coz it has been like that since he was introduced. Atum, current alias amon_ra, represented by the sun. Go and tell them to change it, if you don't like it
"Marvel's most powerful god"....until the next issue where some other, human looking god who can wipe out the multiverse with a thought but gets killed by a dude who throws a metal disk, appears as the most powerful god.
Please tell me you're just talking about the "Roxxon Presents: Thor" issue that's coming out next month? They'd be insane to boot Ewing from Thor, he's one of the best writers they have.
Idk Rob, we see in the chaos king that Atum got killed by the skrull queen goddess or whatever she called herself. Been forever since I read that. Guess this is just a retcon for this story
Gaia "The children of Earth are self destructive unruly and can never find peace with themselves." Thor "How many times has the children of Earth saved Eternity?" Gaia "Twice?" Thor "higher" Gaia "Four?" Thor "higher and lets not forget they stopped Galactic from eating everyone, including you."
Last we saw of Mintaur, he was brutally fucked up by The Leader, so I'm hoping this does not follow that continuity, or he's at least mostly healed. But I'm worried his receptionist said "he REALLY doesn't take meetings without an appointment" because he'll still be super fucked up, hooked up to 20 machines barely keeping him alive.
And yet, Cosmic King Thor shit on a fully-fed Galactus (a cosmic entity). Not to mention, Rune King Thor becoming a cosmic entity. Perhaps in this comic run, Atum is all-powerful, but not in the scope of comics, especially Thor.
wait, attend, ちょっと待ってください ! you're telling us that we'll never have any next chapter for this story ?????? it was so good pls marvel finish the story pls
I thought the Void was the strongest? I thought Enigma was stronger than the One Above All, because The One Above All was the weakest in the line of “Above All Gods” entities?
No, Enigma is nowhere near TOAA, TOAA is the writer and readers, literally stated by Al Ewing, who created the Enigma. People just misinterpreted what TOAA was saying, he finds his creation interesting, he calls his Creations motives and thoughts mysteries.
@@noahgelfarb3867 So Deadpool is stronger, cause he killed the writers? I thought enigma was the Crown, in that story where Loki and Ultimates visit the The One Above All?
@@primordialious6945 Deadpool killed writer stand-ins nothing impressive,. Enigma is the crown, but if you notice he is a threat to Eternity, not TOAA.
Blue Marvel claimed that The One Above All is just the highest being that people like him can reach, and logically there should be beings higher still (though I'm not sure what the logic behind that statement was, since it doesn't make any sense to me), possibly without end. On a meta level, there are beings more powerful than the avatar of the writers (if that's what The One Above All is), such as the writers themselves, or other people in our world who can influence the writers, and any real-world god/gods that exist, and someone in a fictional reality is certainly not going to know how far that goes. Ignoring the meta angle, though, there is absolutely no reason to believe that Blue Marvel is correct, and even if he is, Enigma is not more powerful than The One Above All (at least not yet; in theory, he could maybe reach that point if he's not stopped, which he will be).
I love the old “Jack Kirby, as the one above all.” Also Meeting Peter and talking to him.
Retconning Thor to be the son on The Phoenix was total BS. Being the son Of Gaia has EVERYTHING to do with Thor’s everyday doings. It ties him to the Earth and its people and the lore is EPIC. Ecstatic that Marvel has decided to return and revisit this storyline.
@IStevenSeagalwhat does politics have to do with this??
@IStevenSeagal Why bring up sides to begin with? Comic books dabble in politics left and right (no pun intended), but this isn't really one of those times...Lighten up a bit.
@IStevenSeagalthen why watch his stuff?
@IStevenSeagal you obviously do if you’re here responding to a negative comment on his channel.
Loser@IStevenSeagal
Most powerful god until next week. Not to be confused with the monthly relaunch of whatever title #1.
They have so many
Lack of creativity
Lets direct that comment to dc rebooting itself every week @johnlopez9014
Marvel: here’s the most powerful god
Marvel: but this mf right here’s even more powerful!
Marvel: y’all don’t know about this god tho
All you have to do is create your own little Comics and see how far they go. someone might want to narrate them. But at the end of the day you're doing nothing but listening to somebody so listen.
Thor really said: "Ah, Dario Agger. We meet for the first time for the last time."
I love this
I don't know why I found this story so captivating, more than others. This is the 7th time I came back to listen to it. Thank you.
7 times in one hour on a 17 minute video is sorcery
@@ComptonCrypto Hahahahaha!
@@ComptonCrypto I think it's the Mandela Effect...😆
I just realized im talking about sorcery with Dr Doom as my avatar hhahahaha@@muscratlove618
@@ComptonCrypto Videos can be sped up and parts, skipped. Haha
Comics Explained again after 1 month. “Marvel’s most powerful God” 😂
😂 and the month after.
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lol oh blame Marvel.
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Not gonna lie but Atum/Demogorge seems like the first Sentry/Void. At least in my opinion. It’s about time marvel started doing more with their old gods 😌
Marvel didnt invent that, but their level of knowledge on all thing mythology is astonishing. I still say comics are the epitome of mythology, the stories are so much deeper than surface level!
I would actually love to if they retconned Sentrys origin to have been originated(atleast his powers) from Atum or an aspect of him unknowingly extracted from the scientists who created the Sentry formula.
(I think it may have already been hinted at that he created the formula using a mixture of super soldier serum and high/concentrated exposure to radiation from the sun.) A.k.a.... an aspect of Atum.
@@mr.bandicoot2139 Hell, the aspect of the Sentry and the Void could probably be tied back over to Lifebringer One and the Anti-All along with Atum/Demogorge.
Atum is miles above Void
Al Ewing, the writer of this story hinted in his defenders series Sentry and the Void are aspects or just the Lifebringer-one(the first Sentry) and Anti-all(the primordial void). It may be that Atum and Demigorge are aspects of Lifebringer-one and Anti-all.
I think it does matter that Gaia is Thor's mother. It kinda explains why he's always been attracted to Earth. He feels connected to it. So, I have to disagree with you.
I think it doesn’t matter because everyone is the child, grandchild ect. Of gaia all of the Gods after her are direct offspring from Norse to Greek to Egypt Gods. To humans or whatever other beings are her offspring. Her and Uranus gave life to everything so bring her child is insignificant. Humans are all her great grandchildren. The only thing that lived before her is chaos which is just everything
@@xavierholden3443 If we think that way, then nothing matters. It doesn't matter if Peter Parker and MJ are not together anymore, for instance. They're all Gaia's children anyway.
The phoenix is also attracted to earth.. hence why it’s chooses a telepath hosts. This also doesn’t align with mythology which if you want that go read actual mythology. This is fiction as it was meant to be.
2:42 - imo, Thor being the son of Gaea is important. As it helps explain his want to protect the Earth realm.
Amen 💯
Marvel’s most powerful god so far*
A new one will probably pop up in a week (after beating Galactus to show how strong he is).
Galactus is kind of the Yardstick, 😂
He actually meant God not Abstract but God atum is the sky father of Egypt
@oluwadamilola6233 I mean, we had Galactus as "God", then we had the Beyonder, then the living Tribunal, and then it kept going on and on and on, so I would wait before talking about Marvel gods beings straight up unbeatable omni-present God because everytime there is one, another shows up and is "more powerful"
@@loselot6044 I forgot how many Gods are in Marvel because of this lol
Thor visits Gaea, Gaea states humans suck because we're haughty, destroying the Earth, and think the Earth was made for us (which isn't too much different than us being made for the Earth, but whatever, comics), Captain Planet appears, Ted Turner appears, a bunch of hippies chain themselves to a tree, the Italian Native American from the commercials in the 70s appears, Greenpeace appears, Mr.Beast and Team Trees appears-
Rob: This is when you realize the whole story is actually an environmentalist story.
That's one of most amazing comments I have ever read 😂
Well Spoken.
When you consider that humans are animals, creatures created by nature, and thus are an extension of nature's laws, then you realize that human activity is part of nature's "plan" all along. Yes we either realize we fooled around and found out some stuff is bad for us and it was best to stop. But even if we went full tilt balls to the wall and destroyed the current ecosystem, it is as part of that same ecosystem, as a force of nature, what nature made us. This sort of preaching in media is so freaking tiresome and obviates the human animal fact. Nihilistic BS.
And the answer to Gaia is "If you wanted us to be less ravenous then stop making beings that would literaly do this given the chance and quit it with the moral bs when you have none. Humans know this and the smart ones are trying to make sustainable systems."
The deity situation in Marvel changes so fast and so often that it is so hard to keep up with.
I'm pretty sure that the Thor "relaunch" is running in parity with Immortal as a "Roxxon produced" story. Also Gaea being Thor's mom has always mattered lol
slight miscalculation Thor is still the direct child of Odin and Gaea and Thors Father and Brothers created the All force which the Asgardian king inherits all of the previous power of the last king. SO Thor really isn't half of anything Thor went blow for blow with Bor and he was holding back his power.
It is canon that Thor was created to protect Earth.
He is like a living contract between Odin and Gaea.
Due to the Asgardians craving worship from humans.
But the Celestials limited all Pantheons of gods having contacts with humans.
So Odin found a flaw in the decree by fathering Thor with Gaea who infused her essence with the planet Earth.
So Gaea,Cthon and Set are technically siblings.
Therefore they are Thor's uncles?
most powerful until marvel is like “that was only a manifestation of the pinky finger of the weakests of 4 brother beings actually and now we need these mcguffins to survive”
You m0fo$ do nothing but cry and complain
Yep
Pretty much, marvel has a pantheon remade all the time while DC has a hero can do that all the time... It is annoying at some point.
I was expecting The One Above All
But Atum is also a pretty scary God.
Baby, wake up, new Comics Explained just dropped.
Thanks, Jeff. Wouldn't wanna miss it for the world
As a fan they would know when Master Rob has dropped he's video 😂😂😂 jkjk
I’m going back to sleep
@@KingDues maybe but my pathetic mortal body requires sleep at the worst of times... That's why i appreciate being woken up not to miss the things that really count^^
Thor has actually fought Atum in the core of the sun before and actually hurt him by infusing his lightning with the essence of Atum and angered him enough to transform into the demorgorge.
8:19 Atum "Thou shall tasteith the power of the sun!"
Didn't see you mention Roxxon is basically just a dig at Exxon, least subtle callout ever in a comic but I'm here for it ;)
I came here to say all of this lol. Great minds
Roxxon has been around since the 1970’s.
@@omarscarborough4274Yeah since 1974, with Exxon getting its name in 72, so it makes it even funnier they did that just two years later.
It is since all the mess they got into in the 70s
That was very well put. I grew up in a very multicultural area myself(Vallejo CA) and Couldn't have said it better myself.
This is a great story so far I’m really excited for the new issue!
These reviews are the only ones I watch anymore. Everything is relatable… and the energy…. Son, son, son….
This will always be my favorite comic book channel
3:00 They took that conversation straight out of the 38th Chapter of JOB.
Job 38:4 "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding."
Nothing new under the sun -> Ecc 1:9
This conversation also takes place in Immortal Hulk. They actually use that quote word for word as it’s written in Job, unlike here, where it’s paraphrased.
The Thor Corp also gave Utgard Thor a Conscious
Right so ultimately he'll probably have a change or heart.
Most of what Gaea said was true from the early Dr Strange and the old suspense books but that was Thor's attachment to Earth, Rob's right this time, he's the strongest
I love how Marvel goes back to it's old lore and further improving it!
Even with the Generational "miscegenation" of power:
1. The Odin force is the power of 3 gods from the generation preceding Thor's
2. Thor is half first generation god.
King Thor should be plenty powerful enough to at least put up a fight against the elder gods.
Not at all, the elder gods in their true forms predate creation, Gaia for example of her name pre creation was cleito alongside Adam kondman which is another name for eternity, they took physical form on earth which marked the heart of eternity, elder gods don't only symobize aspects of nature but fundamental aspects of Existence, Life, Evil, Change, Destruction, Creation... Cthon is feared by cosmic abstracts, Thor or any other godhead in the second generation of gods don't stand a chance against the elder gods
I thought the All Father power was a power multiplied by the powers of past All Fathers and Thor's Family Line. Is that not the case? Also is there no way that Thor couldn't access the Ruin King status?
The life energy of Odin’s two brothers added to his plus wisdom from well of mimir, and hanging himself on the World Tree.
@@omarscarborough4274 I thought the Odin Force was the life energy of their entire family line. Oh... So its just the three of them.
No one beats
"The One Above All'.
End. Of. Discussion.
Pre ret con beyonder
There was an stupid story about thanos who managed to absorb it. He isn't thst strong and he fears the crown
Writers and Comic Book Characters like Superboy-Prime that can leave the white pages of the comics. The one above all can not leave the comic and neither can the Presence in DC. This was explained in Lucifer.
SBP and others with writers abilities are above these comic gods.
@@tron1007rno they aren't shut the hell up
@@mkhanman12345no the living tribunal was going to take his power and judged Jim pre retcon one above all slams
Man, I gotta read the Thor comics through the Epic Collections.. including J. Michael Strazynski's run on Thor.
The Immortal Thor run have been awesome so far🔥🔥🔥
It was set. In the 'atlantis attacks' series in the late 80's, they had back up stories that went over the creation of the earth, celestial, eternals, etc. Set and chthon were originally divine God beings who devolved into Major demons after they started eating their fellow elders and absorbing their powers. Set was the first murderer. Eventually Gaia banged Demiurge and birthed Atum, a sun god, who took on all the fallen elder gods, absorbing them and turning into the Demogorge. A being so powerful that Set and Cthon sh!t their pants and fled the 616 dimension. Demogorge managed to revert to Autum by 'purging' the evils and demonic energy he absorbed but this may have resulted in the creation of Mephisto and other major demonic beings. It would explain why mephisto focuses so much time on earth.
That goes against the principle that energy never dies just takes different forms. To say every generation of Thor diminishes power by half
In actual Norse myth, Tiwaz was another name for Tyr, God of justice and law. Idk if Marvel changed that around, but I've never heard Buri referred to as Tiwaz. Just being pedantic.
u haven't read enough thor comics pal that's why. he has been called that name many many times.
@Tecnofanb0y I readily admit that I haven't read enough Thor. Which seems strange given my fascination with Norse myth. I appreciate the knowledge tho, thank you.
Utgard Loki and everyone he mentions are probally "The ones who sit above in shadow"
This is crazy. I just read those old stories last week for no reason in particular.
Happy Monday everyone have a blessed week ahead much love from South Africa 💯
0:43, the craziest “hear me out”
Ngl, I kinda mess with this look
Nice, the weekly most powerful video.
Thor should've spoken to his his step mother phoenix and asked her to "Step" in 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wish we could get animated stories like this
Meanwhile over in X-Men: Unlimited not even a full year ago, Gaea abandoned Nature Girl as one of her children because Nature Girl had decided to raze humanity to the ground to save flora and fauna. Gotta love the lack of editorial communication at Marvel.
Yep i remberd that same thing.
she tells Thor he's her mercy to humanity so maybe nature girl was supposed to be like that instead of a genocidal maniac. Meaning only gaea can decide when to end life
@@droskie5 The problem is this is problobly like a year appart. Also Gaia was more sencable there. She may be the utgard vertion of gaia
Itz probably Nature Girl back on her "nature walk" again, wearing a Gaia suit! 😎
What makes me more upset is the gaia in that story was ageist this exact thing.
It's obvious he's going to recruit the Minotaur, who would also be destroyed by the Utgart forces.
I always thought Marvel could have just squared the circle around Gaea and the Phoenix, and made them the same person for the sake of Thor's origin. Both are canonically avatars of Life, so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say Gaea has an innate connection to the Phoenix, fueling her own powers. And the Host of the Phoenix force who was depicted as Thor's mother happened to be a projection of Gaea she created from her exile to enter Midgard, who through that connection was predisposed to channel that power.
It's about as plausible as anything else around that whole topic and solves that problem by keeping both versions as true.
why would gaea need the phoenix force? it has nothing to offer her. and they're not the same concept, gaea is the embodiment of life while the phoenix embodies death and rebirth. and pls thor simply does not have any connections with that burnt pigeon keep it very far away from him.
@@Tecnofanb0y That's not at all what I'm suggesting. I'm saying to give them a thematic connection, similar to how Hel acts as an aspect of Mistress Death in her function as the keeper of an afterlife.
Rob makes a jaded salt pillar.. And it's amazing.
Oh, Robs talking about Thors parentage...
I'll wager any amount of money he's going to mention Phoenix was hinted to be his mother and how he prefers that route
So basically, when he's in that golden form, he looks like Amazo from Justice League/Unlimited but muscled up
Happy Monday!
0:30 man i love Thor comics.
Love this story & it’s tie-in’s.
I feel like the more powerful things get and how much power is spread around, the less impressive it is to witness.
True. There's less and less frame of reference for it anymore
Awesome video man 😎
Hunh. Gaia's questioning of Thor sounds a lot like it got it's inspiration, or at least a good chunk of it, from God's questioning of Job, in that self-titled book from The Bible.
You should cover Black Radiant and Nemisis! They’re both indie comics but amazing!! I think you’d like them
Always a pleasure to Dario Agger whenever he pops up
Just ask Tony Stark to build a laser made out of new mysterious energy to one shot him.
given the aspects thing from what we saw with loki, and since you noted he summoned her, i feel is possible that this is just an avatar of her's a physical form she manifests as to interact
Yeah, Gaia has avatars.
Rob dont forget Thor also has the totality of the Power Cosmic inside him as well, after he killed Galactus and Big G has yet to respawn
Yeah no,he used all the power cosmic within him or at least most of it to create a super powered god blast to kill Galactus and black winter, since then he's gotten the totality of the Odin force which is nice
He doesn't. He used all of it up killing Galactus and the black winter
I always love when cosmic beings get sick of humans and their antics 😂
Isn't this the same basic idea of when the mutants fought the Eternals and then the Celestial decided Earth wasn't worth saving... that was not that long ago.
this looks so damn SICK!!!! love the art
Please redo the Marvel top 20 most powerful characters hierarchy, and finally do the DC hierarchy!!
I first read about Atum/Demegorge was way back in Atlantis Attacks in 1989.
1 million bc Phoenix retconned to be thor's life savior as a baby. Essentially "giving him life", gaia's still the biological.
so stupid from Jason Aaron. how can a son of the very aspect of life herself require a burnt pigeon to save her child.
I'm really curious about how the celestials and the elder gods see each other.
Like, does Gaea have tea time with Mistress Death on occasion since death is a part of life?
Has Gaea ever slapped the crap out of Galactus for trying to eat her?
There are so many cosmic level interactions that they could do, that they should do, that they won't do.
Galactus doesn't mess with mistress death like that. Last I saw, they had a kind of sibling relationship
I just remembered, when Thor pulled Storm away from the battle of Arakko he said that he would paybher pack in kind and fight any war on her behalf when called.
Couldn't Thor be used in this manner in the upcoming Mutant Human Machine war?
Especially since he is the protector of Midgard & Midgard is looking to be unalived in the next few stories it might make a interesting twist.
Also Ironman is still out their, Cap & Fisk (not sure what he do), also if this is a Mutant-Human-Machine War then where does the rest of the Marvel earth bound heroes and villians play into this?
Or will they keep this a x-men thing minus the characters we have already seen (the 3 mentioned, Deadpool, Nova if he is alive,and others)?
Gaea not being important??? Rob says the silliest things sometimes.🤣
She is an integral part of Thor’s story.
Wonder if sentry’s powers is connected to this guy 🤔
No but scarlet witches is sort of, he was created by the demiurge and scarlet witches son is destined to be the next demiurge, she also gained her chaos magic abilities from cthon but she's since surpassed his level of power
Every week, a new most powerful. REALLY.
I like Thor realized this was getting outside his pay grade, his mom won't have it, big bro is out there and all out god still might happen. Where is Thor to do beat up Dario, if I am not mistaken was the fall guy for Hulk to resolve some issue Roxxon was at fault for with an original Hulk type character by splitting Dario's head open.
You can tell Rob hasn’t even read this Thor run or paid attention to solicits cause that is not all what happens at the end or what is happening in the series.
Well Done as usual.
I don't like the new Marvel order.
The Living Tribunal now being on levels equal to Oblivion. Galactus now always being a beat up toy. I miss the old days
Thanks for answering me 😊😊 thor is a dope comic love it 😊😊
0:42 Odin: *"would smash"*
Nothing wrong with Rob's titles. True fan I love listening to him so it doesn't bother me .. assuming your right haha.....
I don't think they're ending this series, the new #1 is going to be a companion series to this one
It would be interesting if Marvel ever had a story with the Elder gods of Earth battling the Elder gods outside of Earth like the Octessence.
So did they just forget about Thor and Atum's fight in Thor 705 or is that just non-canon now? Atum is absolutely more powerful but they've absolutely fought before.
Please make a video explaining Utgard thor vs Thor
Hmm. I could swear that Thor DID meet Atum one time and fought him back in Atlantic Attacks. Also according to the Marvel Wiki Atum goes by the name Amon Ra these days (Yeah, Ra leader of the Egyptian deities). So Marvel must be playing games with stuff (big surprise). sm
Amun _ra is not Atum, and has never been
@@Tecnofanb0yyes, Atum is Amon_Ra. Son of Nun (Demiurge) and father of Bast and Sekhmet
@@droskie5 LMFAO, that's an entirely different being altogether. but you're free to believe what you want.
@@Tecnofanb0y are you arguing with marvel? Coz it has been like that since he was introduced. Atum, current alias amon_ra, represented by the sun. Go and tell them to change it, if you don't like it
"Marvel's most powerful god"....until the next issue where some other, human looking god who can wipe out the multiverse with a thought but gets killed by a dude who throws a metal disk, appears as the most powerful god.
Please tell me you're just talking about the "Roxxon Presents: Thor" issue that's coming out next month? They'd be insane to boot Ewing from Thor, he's one of the best writers they have.
Yet another number 1😊
Idk Rob, we see in the chaos king that Atum got killed by the skrull queen goddess or whatever she called herself. Been forever since I read that. Guess this is just a retcon for this story
Amazing
There's a video like this every month haha. Way too many powerhouses.
odin smashed that swamp thang
Odin: Mmm, is that Chanel no.5?
Gaea: I think it's the corpse rotting and stuck in my craw, now let's get dirty.
Gaia "The children of Earth are self destructive unruly and can never find peace with themselves."
Thor "How many times has the children of Earth saved Eternity?"
Gaia "Twice?"
Thor "higher"
Gaia "Four?"
Thor "higher and lets not forget they stopped Galactic from eating everyone, including you."
Hey Rob… cover Godslap please! It looks interesting and wanna know if it’s worth buys
Last we saw of Mintaur, he was brutally fucked up by The Leader, so I'm hoping this does not follow that continuity, or he's at least mostly healed. But I'm worried his receptionist said "he REALLY doesn't take meetings without an appointment" because he'll still be super fucked up, hooked up to 20 machines barely keeping him alive.
And yet, Cosmic King Thor shit on a fully-fed Galactus (a cosmic entity). Not to mention, Rune King Thor becoming a cosmic entity. Perhaps in this comic run, Atum is all-powerful, but not in the scope of comics, especially Thor.
wait, attend, ちょっと待ってください ! you're telling us that we'll never have any next chapter for this story ?????? it was so good pls marvel finish the story pls
History of marvel is Robs best videos
Odin really looked a gaia and said "would"
I thought the Void was the strongest? I thought Enigma was stronger than the One Above All, because The One Above All was the weakest in the line of “Above All Gods” entities?
No, Enigma is nowhere near TOAA, TOAA is the writer and readers, literally stated by Al Ewing, who created the Enigma. People just misinterpreted what TOAA was saying, he finds his creation interesting, he calls his Creations motives and thoughts mysteries.
@@noahgelfarb3867 So Deadpool is stronger, cause he killed the writers?
I thought enigma was the Crown, in that story where Loki and Ultimates visit the The One Above All?
@@primordialious6945 Deadpool killed writer stand-ins nothing impressive,. Enigma is the crown, but if you notice he is a threat to Eternity, not TOAA.
Blue Marvel claimed that The One Above All is just the highest being that people like him can reach, and logically there should be beings higher still (though I'm not sure what the logic behind that statement was, since it doesn't make any sense to me), possibly without end. On a meta level, there are beings more powerful than the avatar of the writers (if that's what The One Above All is), such as the writers themselves, or other people in our world who can influence the writers, and any real-world god/gods that exist, and someone in a fictional reality is certainly not going to know how far that goes. Ignoring the meta angle, though, there is absolutely no reason to believe that Blue Marvel is correct, and even if he is, Enigma is not more powerful than The One Above All (at least not yet; in theory, he could maybe reach that point if he's not stopped, which he will be).
If a god or alien came down and said No More Humanity... We all gone. We just won't band together fast enough to talk them down
Thats like asking ants to unify