FYI, Canada was the US' 4th biggest importer (~$430 billion) with the EU, China and Mexico at 1-3 respectively. Japan was a distant 4th. Just to say that Canada's economy, ranked 10 by GDP in the world, exculding the EU, is not that small and is currently larger than Russia's. That being said, love the work and reporting that you do. Keep up the good work!
@@ccibinel No oil from Mexico or Canada is tracked. Mexico's industrial maquiladora region along all USA states where most automotive, electronic, and new battery plants are located are not reported on this site. But it is an interesting site.
Apteras patent application on the solar panel production method also calls for a heat stake performed to hold the cells in place while forming the panels. German company could also be providing this kind of equipment. More great research on your part!! Thanks for all you do to keep us informed.
This is data on total sea based shipments (individual shipments not dollars amounts). Canada and Mexico each make up 13% of US imports and China is only 19% (source: oec). Of US imports from canada only ~28% is petroleum products (about 19% is automotive). Economies are complex things and even categories like crude petroleum have both imports and exports to canada measured in 10s on billions of dollars.
You can look up those HS CODE numbers and find out just what was imported. I have imported for 3 decades and this is how you figure out what is shipped.
Shipping weights include item and container. Tires could weigh 25lbs each. 1000lbs of tires would probably be 30-36 tires. Aptera needed material for the alpha builds earlier. No shipping data on PI builds actually. Mildly disappointing.
It is important to realize a shipping crate can itself easily weight 500 lbs. I've had equipment shipped several times, and the packaging/protection often weighed 5x the product! (Edit: This is why custom Pelican cases can often be seen as a bargain.) This covers only freight by sea. Need to also check overland freight and airfreight. It is also possible to check US Customs for multimodal international freight, but that's a bit more complex.
News flash: In 2011, Aptera I.P was sold off to China. Aptera was renamed Zaptera here in America. So those two Aptera ev are the original Aptera 2e ev from the original Aptera Motors Inc. That came back home in 2021. Great question by the way.
A picture of the two Chery vehicles were just posted on Discord. Considering there’s no record of Gamma being shipped on that site, the assumption that PIs from CPC would show on there might be a stretch.
I had the same thought about their announcement of gamma returning from Italy. All of these shipments look like less than truckload.(LTL). Perhaps Gamma shipped in a container to a drayage entity who delivered the container from port to Aptera.
Steve, Sherlock Holmes was a sleuth but you have outdone him! Rather disappointing that those Bincs are not in transit yet. Hopefully 🤞 they will be soon! Validation process is a period of months, not weeks, and so the clock is still ticking.
They can easily put this on Public Block Chains to track their supply chains. Blockchains are immutable, safe and public. PS: the daily value of goods that is crossing over from Canada/US is about $1 billion every day. Not sure if that can be termed as a small transaction.
I thought it to be kind of strange for assembled bodies to be in transit without having seen any photos. But I guess we will be able to track them once they do ship. Expecting photos soon.
Very nice find. I had this in my bookmarks but had never considered tracking what Aptera was actually doing using this resource. Sadly I figure we are more than a month off from seeing anything ship out of Italy given how much is being done there. Remember during the webinar Steve stated besides bonding the pressed components that that has to be attached to the frame to hang the suspension components from. Plus closures which includes the doors, hood, and rear hatch, and then glass and seals. It will be very interesting to see the Aptera US CTNS announcement because doing batteries and drive train in Italy will give them opportunity to use RORO ships else its by container and that will not be an enjoyable logistical workload However they are shipping under other names - check the far right column and the receiving company will not always be Aptera
Once customer builds start, it would be nice if a customer could log into their website and see the status/location of all the parts, when they are expected to arrive at the assembly building, and what day they expect to build the finished car.
Honestly, as nice as that might be, actually doing so could be a real PR nightmare if/when some inevitable delay hits the process. Always better to use the "it's ready when it's ready" motto to both avoid stoking public ire at delays and/or forcing yourself into a timeframe that rushes production and strips you of the QC necessary to properly ensure customer satisfaction
Fascinating... Yes, probably (most assuredly) not the whole picture, but fascinating. Interesting that the info for the tire shipment shows the tire size (195/50R16H) and maybe the quantity ("50 pieces packed on 3 packages of tires"). Does this size match the known tire size for the Aptera? Curious that they ordered them from Indonesia rather that purchasing them domestically. The lag appears to be minimal. For example, searching on Costco as the Consignee shows mutiple entries dated yesterday.
"Mexico became the top U.S. trading partner at the beginning of 2023, with total bilateral trade between the two countries totaling $263 billion during the first four months of this year." ... So I'm guessing that website doesn't include ground transportation.
After living in Orange County CA, for decades I don't think it has a shipping trade port, just recreational. San Diego and San Francisco probably has more shipping trade than OC. Looks ng Beach/San Pedro (LA) is the biggest one in USA.
Shouldn't the PI bodies have been sent a long time ago? If they are going to produce 65000 vehicles, they would have to produce 30,000 per year they would have to produce 80 plus bodies per day. Have they shipped any quantity yet?
I think that the data shows up on the public tracker site after it's been delivered. So it's possible that it's on its way and it just hasn't shown up yet
Good Morning Steve, Google does not agree with you. China, Canada and then Mexico followed by Japan. This seems to be for 22 and 23. ??? For Mexico; Just think automobiles and food.
I think Steve memtioned that ImportInfo may only track sea vessels (e.g., container ships) and may not include land transport. If this is the case, this would certainly explain why the Mexico and Canada numbers are as low as they are.
@@skipondowntheroad5833 actually I do not know about that. I wish Aptera could offer some input regarding helmet requirements in countries they wish to sell vehicles.
Why not just get an account for them? Seems that when you do you can get more detailed information. Then we will know when and where the PI shipments are and then start a countdown clock to when they get to Aptera.
FYI, Canada was the US' 4th biggest importer (~$430 billion) with the EU, China and Mexico at 1-3 respectively. Japan was a distant 4th. Just to say that Canada's economy, ranked 10 by GDP in the world, exculding the EU, is not that small and is currently larger than Russia's. That being said, love the work and reporting that you do. Keep up the good work!
🌃 The More You Know 🌈⭐
@@ccibinel No oil from Mexico or Canada is tracked. Mexico's industrial maquiladora region along all USA states where most automotive, electronic, and new battery plants are located are not reported on this site. But it is an interesting site.
Apteras patent application on the solar panel production method also calls for a heat stake performed to hold the cells in place while forming the panels. German company could also be providing this kind of equipment. More great research on your part!! Thanks for all you do to keep us informed.
This is data on total sea based shipments (individual shipments not dollars amounts). Canada and Mexico each make up 13% of US imports and China is only 19% (source: oec). Of US imports from canada only ~28% is petroleum products (about 19% is automotive). Economies are complex things and even categories like crude petroleum have both imports and exports to canada measured in 10s on billions of dollars.
I've said it before and I'll probably say it again: Steve would make a great detective!! Some excellent digging into the details here, as always
I'll be looking forward to the PI builds being shipped!
You can look up those HS CODE numbers and find out just what was imported. I have imported for 3 decades and this is how you figure out what is shipped.
The wire bonder was probably for the solar panel assembly.
That’s my guess too. And we’ve seen that in action
Shipping weights include item and container. Tires could weigh 25lbs each. 1000lbs of tires would probably be 30-36 tires. Aptera needed material for the alpha builds earlier. No shipping data on PI builds actually. Mildly disappointing.
fun to think that in all of that data is my little car!
Great video, interesting and thanks again for sharing!
It is important to realize a shipping crate can itself easily weight 500 lbs. I've had equipment shipped several times, and the packaging/protection often weighed 5x the product! (Edit: This is why custom Pelican cases can often be seen as a bargain.)
This covers only freight by sea. Need to also check overland freight and airfreight. It is also possible to check US Customs for multimodal international freight, but that's a bit more complex.
It's not delivery, it's Livorno
News flash: In 2011, Aptera I.P was sold off to China. Aptera was renamed Zaptera here in America. So those two Aptera ev are the original Aptera 2e ev from the original Aptera Motors Inc. That came back home in 2021. Great question by the way.
Polycarbonate could be for light lenses/covers.
Very interesting stuff indeed. Thanks for sharing and thanks to the dude who alerted you on this.
Interesting that all this data is available Great job
Cherry send full EVs might be the small vehicles that carry the bodies around the plant in Carlsbad. I don't remember hearing the sourcing for those.
A picture of the two Chery vehicles were just posted on Discord. Considering there’s no record of Gamma being shipped on that site, the assumption that PIs from CPC would show on there might be a stretch.
Gamma was built in-house at Aptera.
@@romad357 it was shipped to/from Italy last year.
@@romad357I wonder if Gamma was built using parts of those Chery vehicles
I had the same thought about their announcement of gamma returning from Italy. All of these shipments look like less than truckload.(LTL). Perhaps Gamma shipped in a container to a drayage entity who delivered the container from port to Aptera.
Great info, Steve!! Thanks.
Another commercial on Alter, Samsung Channel that's 2 I've seen in the last week.🎉🎉🎉 Let's go APTERA
That's a deep dive!
Not a surprise to me. I expect PI built to be ready for shipping from CPC, several months away.
Steve, Sherlock Holmes was a sleuth but you have outdone him! Rather disappointing that those Bincs are not in transit yet. Hopefully 🤞 they will be soon! Validation process is a period of months, not weeks, and so the clock is still ticking.
Another slice of the bigger picture Steve, good stuff!
They can easily put this on Public Block Chains to track their supply chains. Blockchains are immutable, safe and public.
PS: the daily value of goods that is crossing over from Canada/US is about $1 billion every day. Not sure if that can be termed as a small transaction.
They needed to get the Alpha prototypes built somewhere. Maybe Chery automotive
Aptera's site currently says they've begun PI builds using parts from C.P.C.
Wow, great investigation Steve!
Excellent find. The two EVs could have been used to cannibalize and build the working test versions.
Or, with Aptera being the best thing ever, they bought up every other EV, disassembled them just to make sure the Aptera is better.
I thought it to be kind of strange for assembled bodies to be in transit without having seen any photos. But I guess we will be able to track them once they do ship. Expecting photos soon.
Very off topic: pressing and holding upper left corner if the video makes the video go 2x speed. It's a great UA-cam feature.
It also works on TikTok
On my iPhone it doesn’t have to be upper left corner, you can press and hold pretty much anywhere on the screen to get the 2X speed
Kinda interesting, mostly disappointing. Everyone is starved for substantial info, it's been very dry for two months.
I agree, its another season of no news, no happy yuppie-fornicate with a tree videos from Aptera staff-zip, zero.
Maybe it’s all hands on deck to get the 16 PI made. So they stopped making videos and giving updates.
Very nice find. I had this in my bookmarks but had never considered tracking what Aptera was actually doing using this resource. Sadly I figure we are more than a month off from seeing anything ship out of Italy given how much is being done there. Remember during the webinar Steve stated besides bonding the pressed components that that has to be attached to the frame to hang the suspension components from. Plus closures which includes the doors, hood, and rear hatch, and then glass and seals.
It will be very interesting to see the Aptera US CTNS announcement because doing batteries and drive train in Italy will give them opportunity to use RORO ships else its by container and that will not be an enjoyable logistical workload
However they are shipping under other names - check the far right column and the receiving company will not always be Aptera
Chery is a Chinese EV company
I am thinking they bought Chery vehicles to make Gamma.
FYI, Cherry New Energy is a Chinese electric car company
Once customer builds start, it would be nice if a customer could log into their website and see the status/location of all the parts, when they are expected to arrive at the assembly building, and what day they expect to build the finished car.
Honestly, as nice as that might be, actually doing so could be a real PR nightmare if/when some inevitable delay hits the process. Always better to use the "it's ready when it's ready" motto to both avoid stoking public ire at delays and/or forcing yourself into a timeframe that rushes production and strips you of the QC necessary to properly ensure customer satisfaction
[grumble]
I know I gotta wait.
I really would prefer to have AT LEAST A BEST GUESS at how long 😑
Fascinating... Yes, probably (most assuredly) not the whole picture, but fascinating. Interesting that the info for the tire shipment shows the tire size (195/50R16H) and maybe the quantity ("50 pieces packed on 3 packages of tires"). Does this size match the known tire size for the Aptera? Curious that they ordered them from Indonesia rather that purchasing them domestically.
The lag appears to be minimal. For example, searching on Costco as the Consignee shows mutiple entries dated yesterday.
Does the timing line up for the two Chery imports to have been chasses for gamma (sol and luna)?
Doesn't seem to
Great research
"Mexico became the top U.S. trading partner at the beginning of 2023, with total bilateral trade between the two countries totaling $263 billion during the first four months of this year." ... So I'm guessing that website doesn't include ground transportation.
After living in Orange County CA, for decades I don't think it has a shipping trade port, just recreational. San Diego and San Francisco probably has more shipping trade than OC. Looks ng Beach/San Pedro (LA) is the biggest one in USA.
Shouldn't the PI bodies have been sent a long time ago? If they are going to produce 65000 vehicles, they would have to produce 30,000 per year they would have to produce 80 plus bodies per day. Have they shipped any quantity yet?
so bottom line, the BinC with partial assembly from CPC haven't shipped yet. Thats disappointing
That is an assumption. Not fact.
I think that the data shows up on the public tracker site after it's been delivered. So it's possible that it's on its way and it just hasn't shown up yet
@@ApteraOwnersClubI am thinking Gamma is a Chery vehicle made over with their retrofit.
@@stevemontana1878- It could be they needed to make sure they fooled the Big 3 so they didn’t steal an Aptera.
Nice sleuthing!!!
Good Morning Steve, Google does not agree with you. China, Canada and then Mexico followed by Japan. This seems to be for 22 and 23. ???
For Mexico; Just think automobiles and food.
I think Steve memtioned that ImportInfo may only track sea vessels (e.g., container ships) and may not include land transport. If this is the case, this would certainly explain why the Mexico and Canada numbers are as low as they are.
Fer Shure. @@DrTeeHenry
In Canada we must wear a helmet to drive a three wheel vehicle. Does anyone know if Aptera would be an exception?
Are you sure the three wheel vehicle helmet requirement is for vehicles with an enclosed cabin, such as an Aptera?
@@skipondowntheroad5833 actually I do not know about that. I wish Aptera could offer some input regarding helmet requirements in countries they wish to sell vehicles.
Hmm, good question. I will call my insurance company to see what they have to say. Thanks for comment.
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Why not just get an account for them? Seems that when you do you can get more detailed information. Then we will know when and where the PI shipments are and then start a countdown clock to when they get to Aptera.
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Oddly absent, PI builds.
They haven't been assembled in Modena yet most likely.
I’m mid 300’s. I don’t expect to take delivery before February 2025.I haven’t even saved enough for the purchase.
@@dougbrittsan-yn9sl don't worry, as Zager & Evans used to sing ..in the year 2525 !