The S&S would interest me for the right price. While every boat is a project the thing that stood out to me the most is that boat is actively for sale yet the owner could not be bothered to clean the dirt and mold off the decks and rigging. It makes me wonder what other maintenance items they could not be bothered to do? Perhaps it is a cultural thing from being across the pond but I cannot imagine wanting to sell a boat (or any item) without making it look the best it can for potential buyers. First impressions are valuable.
That same thought ripped through my head, when I used to rent my apartments all I ever did was walk outside and look inside there cars, if it was a filthy mess that’s exactly what the inside of there home will look like, go right to the next person
I understand where you want to go and don't disagree in principle, but the boat is class certificated. I think they have the same standard as here in Norway and there are strict technical requirements. If a boat has such a certification, you know that it is seaworthy. If the boat has been lived aboard then it is not unusual for the cosmetic to be a little shabby! Normally, they are good at maintaining what is important! S&S is built so solidly that the hull is not a concern. But I basically agree, dirty object maintenance accordingly!
usual sellerts trick,'its under offer',always remember buyer beware there's thousands of boats for sale out there,if you miss one another will pop up next week
I ALSO AGREE. THE MARKET IS DROPPING AND BOATS COST TO KEEP AND MAINTAIN. DONT BE RUSHED .!!!!! TAKE YOUR TIME . MAKE A LOW LOW OFFER. EVEN A DAMNED CHEEKY ONE. IF YOU LOSE THIS ONE OTHERS WILL POP UP. and while I agree it might well be worth going for something that does not need a lot of work there is no such thing as ready to go. A jobs list will develop for sure.
I've been trawling boat sites here in Australia, unfortunately you're correct. I'm looking at the same boats I saw in 2021 and they're still "under offer" lol
I’m so glad I found your channel. I too I’m boat hunting and picking up good tips from you. Looking forward to following your journey my friend. I’ve followed Thomas’s channel, what a lovely guy and so nice of him and Max to reach out with help. I used to live on a 60’ Dutch Barge (tchalk)had a huge marinised Daf engine, 2 generators. 2 bedrooms a bathroom with an actual bath!!! Even a washing machine and tumble dryer and dishwasher. Sheer luxury. 😂😂😂
I am pleased you are sticking to your principles and not rushing in to buying the first favourable offering, you are in a very good position, you have money in the bank, because of the world situation there will be lots of good value boats coming onto the market as people re-evaluate their outgoings, you will learn so much by having the luxury of no time pressures and being able to look round many boats, it also makes interesting viewing because we are all a bit nosy 😉
@@haydo8373 yeah there are some channels been running for years going round looking at boats for sale and the state of the market… i have found them very useful and informative.
@@aevoguitars2576 Boy, do I know that or what. I had £5000 cash to buy a new Transit van for work and for towing the caravan, but 6 weeks of 'time off' later I only had £1500 left. I am NOT good with money.
@@Tampo-tiger I hear you, I had 10.5k for a camping car..I looked around all summer for one..Nothing ,now winter has arrived lots of bargains and my 10 k is now 1k😭😄
Your chanel is probably one of the most interesting to watch at this time. Brilliantly fly on the wall and don't change the style or format. Good luck and keep well. ROD UK.
Really great to see these older boats. Following your story with interest and I think I am enjoying the boat yard stories more than the sailing episodes. Great work and good luck
Thanks for keeping the channel going have followed for a long long time and am loving the search for a new boat. Keep up the great work we are not worried about the shaky camera or any other glitches or oil changes that's why we love the channel. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I would continue the Bronski Beat theme with the S&S 42. It's a slow heavy old boat that looks like it needs a lot of work and money to bring it back to a seaworthy condition. Also I think you would find a pilot house uncomfortable if you are planning to go to warmer climes. If you are planning a single-handed voyage then my preference would be 36 - 38 ft with a cutter rig if possible. Good luck with the search.
Dear capnordest 👍👌👏 Exactly! You are absolutely right, Sir! Way to much work to do and too much money to invest. And that although the budget would already have to be stretched.just to buy this old boat. No shower and the overall condition is "very much used" and not very clean. The best thing may the Perkins engine be. Best regards, luck and health.
Do you know what a "current survey" is? Do you know what "coded" means? Seaworthy condition?? Some of the comments on this post not just this thread bewilder me . That boat is ready for blue water . Its Wales in winter , leave your deck for 2-3 weeks and algae is away to go , black mould appears in cabin condensation spots etc .
Mark if it feels right in your heart and your still happy after another inspection, go for it! I did like the full roof cockpit to keep out of the sun, and the canvas removable sides are a bonus to remove in warmer weather.
That looks like the perfect balance for a cheap boat. Not totaly a disaster. Just needing a lot of good care. Stilll a lot of work. But it should be easy to live aboard when you bring it back to mint condition. And the possibly for commercial use is a very nice option to have. And thanks for continuing to give us very good videos.
We have the sister ship of that S & S 42. Ours needs a bit of breeze to get moving but we did over 10 days of at least 150nm on the way to the Marquesan Islands and her best day ever was 200 miles in the South Atlantic. Our ketch is a Flamingo 42' (1979) built by Halstead International in Johannesburg, South Africa (not in Durban), but she launched in Durban. If you want more info contact us.
If you are thinking of sailing single-handed on anything over 40 ft you want to consider the position of the winches and sheets and how easy the running rigging is to handle.. Otherwise you will be dashing everywhere and don't forget the bigger the boat the bigger the mooring fees.
Make a complete and detailed list of the items you want to look at in your second inspection(just like a surveyor's list). Give the owner a copy and let him know you need to look at those items. That way he knows you are not just knocking around on his boat and he can assist you in locating items. If this upsets him then there is probably a reason he does not want someone looking that close at his boat.
Reall good idea, I would also add "and make sure you use your list". When I bought my last yacht I had a list based on previous surveys and then when I went for second look on the boat, owner and broker spoke not stop at me pointing out this, that and the other, getting out the photo album to show me how much Mary had enjoyed diving off the bowsprit, after an hour of this I'd completely forgotton about my list and just got swept along with the fever and now I'm paying for not being focused. As for professional surveys, I've only had bad experiences, and all there sureys are covered by the catch all "if it wasn't visible I'm not responsible". Aparently my surveyor was not responsibe for not noting that all the sea cocks were ceased and the compression post was badly corroded
Someone had gone to a lot of trouble replacing the old sagging headlining with quite a neat fixed and battened arrangement. But I'd have preferred the bilge keel version. It might be slower and less capable in a sea way, but a real boon for a drying mooring, ad-hoc beach inspection or boatyard maintenance...
Love that you’re bombing around in an old mini all winter. Best car in the world haha. I have had a couple. My first car was a Metro which I still own and drive daily. Always nice to see other people driving stuff like this :) Looking to move into a boat full time in 2024. I’ve hit subscribe!
I actually liked the 33, but both looked okay.. and I seriously doubt you will be single for long Mark! But that 33 is still a world cruiser.. and you will get fit your pup, and your new girl on her easily, i probably liked it because it appeared to be played with less, meaning your not having to undo other peoples work, you can just Concentrate on the mods you want to do.. i agree with you “you don’t have to buy the first boat you see, however if the right boat you see is right and so is the price? If you think you will regret not buying her? Do it Mate! Sincerely all the best.. and any young ladies out there? His single and you know how to contact him! 😊
If the important parts of the boat are in good shape I would negotiate to the best price possible and buy it! It would of course be fun to continue looking around and MAYBE find a boat that is better for you but I think you have found a sturdy one that suits you. It would be hard to find a boat with a better design and name than an S&S as they are extremely well known and tested sailing machines. In good condition, this boat would make for an amazing offshore cruiser.
She has nothing of a S&S design she is so top heavy. that deck is rotten so many cracks on it, has to be, tip toeing on it does not tell anything. At least 2 years work,that is &10000 in yard or morrage fees alone,then the real expenses start!
What was wrong with the Westerly 33 at £15k? Five channels i follow all use 32 to 38 ft boats. Length alone does not make a blue water boat… 38 is more than enough. And a late 80s early 90s designed 38 will have more living space and more comfortable space than a longer older boat. And a ketch in general is IMHO a headache… but solo!!! IMHO the S&S is still needlessly large and old.
Hello Mark I keep dropping bits of advice, basically because I've been there done that. The S&S I thought was a good if not a spectacular buy. Whatever you think of buying you might want to ask yourself one question, "Can I sail this boat on my own without crew?" And therein lies the question of choosing a suitable boat. You won't find the freedom you think you are looking for by buying a boat that needs a crew, or at best one that frightens you to death when you try to single hand the thing. Stay within your capabilities, move up when you have more experience. Some bloke previously from near Wrea Green.
I am so glad you are not falling in to problems boats. It was a fantastic boat and the owner seams to be a great persons too very helpful. This is so interesting can't wait for more.
Nice boat that Sparkman but there is always more work to do on old yachts like, for example, those through hulls, you did them on Minky and it gave you reassurance so you may appreciate replacing them on any new yacht you buy. There are 100’s for sale and new ones coming up all the time, spend time seeing lots of boats so that you get a solid appreciation of prices and quality, eventually you will discover quality at a good price.
Great to see you looking at boats. You have lots to choose from and you will find the perfect one that fits your requirements. I have that same book and I used it to inspect my current sailboat when I was searching for a project. Looking forward to the next video. Cheers! S/V Cork~Texas
Two nice solid boats. Mid Atlantic is the time you might appreciate solidity over out and out speed. I suppose not stretching your finances is wise because you are bound to have work to complete before a departure and even after of course. A shakedown always flags something that you missed.
Yea, I love the look of the 42, could be a great project to get it the way you want. But right not to rush if there are plenty boats there will be a better one around the corner.
Marc, on my first boat, which coincidentally was an S&S34 I asked to stay on board for a night. This gave me the opportunity to go into every locker, under every bed, check every leaky through-hull etc in my own time. It was magic. I didn't really know what I was looking for, but It created a huge l;iust of questions and ultimately helped mie negotiate the final price.
The 34 is a super boat with a beautiful traditional-looking deck design yet it's thoroughly modern below the waterline. A classic looking S&S design which I've always admired. I am rather astonished that the boat Mark reviewed is from the same hand.
I would struggle in your situation Mark, I'd likely buy one of the first yachts I viewed, I'm glad you're getting good advice for seasoned viewers. Think of it as a game where you are optimizing the quality of boat for a giving amout of money. You're searching for the BEST yacht available for x amount dollars. You're cashed up so you can be selective. As others have mentioned, the market is only going to get more competitive and we love this new style of content! Happy hunting!
I wouldn't get that for single handed sailing. Single handed motoring - perhaps, but not sailing. Never rush into a sale. I was so pleased when my patience paid off and now I sit next to the boat I nearly bought on impulse. Seeing it every day cements my belief you should never be rushed into a purchase.
Take your time, the right boat for you is out there, waiting for you. Don't buy the first one you see unless it screams at you "buy me". The ones you looked at this week were way more suitable than the stripped out one you saw first!
You are doing a great job looking at boats. Well done.. starting over again can be very difficult, you are doing awesome.. I love watching your videos because you are real, not putting on a show for the camera… blessings to you
Thumbs up for the algos. Hard when the market is so broad, but if a boat ticks all the boxes, you have to ask, "will i regret not buying"? There was a Fisher 31 for 15k in Sweden, thats a tough old boat for the money.
The Sparkman & Stevens is the boat I think UA-cam should go for if you can afford it. The budget must inkluderar costs for refurbising. But it is a very good choice. You can live on the boat and take some time to save money for refurbishing. During my more Than 40 years of sailing S&S boats have been one of my favorits because the are wellbuilt, strong and have a trick solid glassfiberhull. Don’t waste your time on other boats. Good Luck, from an 74 years old retired sailor from Sweden. I’m sailing a 36 foot Bacchant in summer.
Mark, it needs much more than a good cleaning and the cost is high for the year/condition. Move on, there’s plenty out there in better shape and ready to deploy.
Hope you enjoyed Cardiff Bay Yacht Club, we’re based there, when we were looking for our next yacht, Keith showed us several all different types so we could get a feel for what we wanted, very knowledgeable! Good luck in the search!
That Sparkman Stephens is a vessel that would be worth putting money into because she'll retain the value. The work and money you'd put into her would not be wasted and their are owners groups out there that can answer pretty much any question you may have. The fact she's registered as commercial is a huge plus as well even if all you want to do is take on crew that pays you for the privilege of being and working on board. There are also no shortage of them that have circumnavigated and as you mentioned they're built like tanks but also perform well. So far that's the best you've looked at for what you expect to use your new vessel for. If I wasn't in the states I'd be taking a very serious look at that Westerly as she's exactly the type of vessel I'm looking for and that was a good price that I bet could be made better. Really enjoying your videos of the hunt and like you said it's always fun to get to look at different vessels even if they're not what your looking for. Funny part is you can see things on boats that you have absolutely no interest in that may provide some ideas of things to add to what you are looking for. Anyway sorry for this book of a comment Mark and thanks again for taking us a long. Fair winds, following seas, safe travels and God Bless...
Boatie folks = Best folk....This one seems to have better bones than the last. Lots of wood to keep track of, but that also makes it relatively easy to fix. The only down side would seem to be the less than ideal set-up for solo sailing and lack of speed. I assume she is sort of a "slow and steady" kind of gal. As you say, don't rush into anything. Going to Wharram sounds amazing. Cheers from FL, USA.
Hi Mark! S&S is a great seaworthy boat and solid as a tank! BUT the mast i didnt like. I have never seen a mast split and pop together. In half, yes thats normal because of transport costs and has nothing to say about the mast's structural strength or performance. I cant find any reason to split it and i see a lot of potential problems. It can't be good because there aren't many of them! (now I speak as a professional rigger for many years and a long distance sailor, that wants you to be safe!) But i have never seen it before and have no experience, so try to find out more about it! Don't apologize for the filming, one of the reasons I like your channel is that it is authentic and not a channel that looks like a scripted and directed commercial vid like many other sailing channels have become.
I am living since 7 yrs on a (very roomy, 3 meters beam) 27 Footer. I lived half of the time 2 Persons + Dog on Board. I sailed with this ship Baltic sea, North sea in Novembre, and currently the Med Sea. All singlehanded, even if 2 Persons on Board. I would NEVER go for a huge ship like that if i am planning real long Distance an long time sailing. Handling of a smaller boat is much more easy, especially in difficult conditions and circumstances. Works and Maintenance are cheaper, faster done, and less effort. If you want to TRAVEL instead of WORKING ON A COOL BOAT (while dreaming of traveling), try to get smaller and better condition boat instead of a big and cheap one. i would recommend a good 27 - 34 ft Boat ... e.g. a 27 ft Hallberg Rassy. Same Budget, but a safe, seaworthy boat ready to go .... high Quality. Just my 5 Cents...
I would agree with you, the upkeep and running costs on the 42 will be significantly more than a 34-38 and an older 42 is much less suitable for single handed sailing than a modern boat. That S&S is a heavy old boat that is going to need a good breeze to get it moving too, the alternative is lengthy periods under engine, burning expensive diesel. Manoeuvring under power in small spaces single handed is going to be quite stressful too. Great boat for a retired couple with some money to run it and upgrade, perhaps less well suited for a young man on a tight budget, although I can see that it could be an excellent UA-cam project.
Completely agree. Far too big…unless Mark is going to start a family…and with someone with a good income. Sub 30’. Ideally twin keel, or long enough to take the ground with legs.
Your having fun making these videos there is no real rush mark,wish your father had time to travel with you you make a fab double act and not forgetting your adorable mum 😊
I’d keep looking … that 42 looks like a big lump of a boat - look at the size of the sails on any boat you consider and think how you’ll reef and handle in a blow - cutter rigs are easier to handle . I’d go smaller in boat size - easier to manage and easier to maintain in every aspect - happy hunting !
Mark, I've been excited to find that you're back on the hunt and while a bit surprised by your decision to get back to what you love ... I'm loving every minute of the video's. It had to be difficult to let go of Meinke, especially considering how much work you and your Dad did together on that engine. Honestly I've not noticed a single black dot, shaky camera... anything. I'm sure I speak for all your viewers when i say you could record, edit and post on a 70s camcorder and we wouldn't care. Keep doing what you love and we're going to love following along. I hope you find the perfect boat and your dad joins you to help get it up to speed/cleaned up. I really enjoyed the time you had with him. He's a solid ole school grease monkey! See ya next week.
Hi Mark. Been following your channel for years now, your enthusiasm is infectious! Good luck with the search and look foreword to your next adventures. If you return to Cardiff and need a place to crash let me know.
I didn't notice the video being shaky, Least classic cars are easy to work on unlike the newer cars. That boat looks so good, looks like a perfect home for long trips at sea.
You were at my club ! The S and S has been for sale for a long time so I don't think there's a rush there and a low ball offer would help to pay for the inevitable work. Building your own boat would give you a new boat, to your design and you'd know every inch/centimetre of it. There are plenty of videos out there of people who've done it...a French guy built one and it took him two years (with occasional help) then he sailed across the Atlantic back to Marseille...top speed of 18 kn ! Look forward to seeing what you think...
Hey mark , that’s 100% better than the last one, 42 footer, pilot house for protection, get some electric rollers , etc , etc , whatever boat you get ( for the price your looking at ) , your gonna have to spend, I can see you and yoshi with your pirate eye patches , shouting yo ho ho and a bottle of rum 😂😂😂, like you say , look at the next one , give it a week , if you still want it , go back and do a thorough check, if you still like it go for it mate , I can see you on it sailing the seven seas 😎
Hey man! I hope you are good today.. Take your time deciding... You will find the "perfect" boat. You are at the beginning of an amazing adventure! I am happy to be here with you. Rolf
I have been following you for a few years. In Denmark, there are many relatively many boats that meet your wishes. I think you can acquire good ships around, I would recommend that you search in Denmark, it is close to half the price of what you are checking right now, kind regards Peer
I am also loving the road trip with you and the ups and downs of the search plus yoshi along with the mini is now part of the family. Blog on your followers, love your exploits
I do think you are making the right decision to not rush in, like a lot of the other comments there are lots of other boats, so something else will pop up. The more you look the more you will know when you find the right one. But a boat in this type of condition is what you need to look for. You can live and sail it now and fix up as you go. Stretching your budget a bit up front will absolutely save you money down the road. I would focus more on something close to 36 foot. As single hand sailor it will be easier to sail, easier to maintain and docking fees will be less. Always temping to get something bigger but 36 feet is still huge inside. Good luck
Great videos...I was/am I an analogous position where I recently purchased a 48' CSK catamaran in So. Florida. Huge project, with intentions of returning to Oregon on sail. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and experiences - invaluable information to help me on this plight. Good luck with your decision and I'm anxiously awaiting to hear what happens with the Wharram in Costa Rica.
I used to own an S&S 42 like this, however, it was in much better condition. Solid GRP for sure but if you proceed further, do check every skin fitting above and below the waterline very carefully. I took on a lot of water in rough seas through the anchor locker drains that were badly designed. It was an easy boat to sail single-handed. Comfortable and no slamming with such a hull design. A good long term budget cruiser but inspect every detail of the assembly and equipment installation.
Great episode Mark. It’s very refreshing to have an honest, down to earth guy sharing his opinions and thoughts. I’ve been addicted to boats since I was a kid and never tire of looking for that diamond in the rough, my problem is, I always find that diamond in every boat I see😂. Keep up the good work and good luck with your search bud.
Take your time mate, 42 big to single hand it can be done but there could certain circumstances where it would be too much. It you are really going to be predominantly single handed then it would be better to drop down to the 38 footer range. I like ketch rigs give more options for sail rigs. The sparks looks okay needs a big clean up but has good design pedigree only issue would be it it not going to leave you with much if any cash so doing things will be delayed while you put together some money. But it certainly looks livable while waiting.
I'd definitely have a very good look over that Westerly 33, that will take you anywhere and perfect size for single handed, its even got its own shed (aft cabin), good luck with what you settle on but remember the bigger the boat the bigger the budget, Is 40ft really necessary to single hand? The S&S is a lovely boat and will keep you safe but it will also bring you alot more financial burdens, good luck mate, im sure whatever you do it will work out, your that sort of bloke 👍
Nothing more exciting than looking at boats Mark. Can't believe you were in my own boat club too CBYC in Cardiff. Looking forward to next week's video.
I owned Yacht Mabalel for a few years, (1980's era) giving her a complete, out of the water, overhaul, including building the wheelhouse. Fantastic boat in every way. She had her own artic-truck trailer, too.
Don't you hate it when you decide to purchase something like a new boat and immediately after you start looking, with a million other boats in the world, you run up on something so unusual and in such good shape that would suit you well, before you've even had a chance to get your feet wet in the search! I REALLY like the Sparkman and Stephens, especially the aft cabin. But, If it's meant for you to have it, it will still be there when you're ready to buy. I think you should look around more before you decide, but it IS really tempting!
If you are worried about looking closer, take a friend along and call them surveyor. I think it doesn't have to be that much less to be worth while if the hull looks good. Have your friend/surveyor ask if it can be dried out on a grid (much cheaper than a haul out) if there is one close by. I think if you can satisfy yourself the hull is sound, the rest is at least known. _Any_ boat you buy will have issues that require work. Better to be able to see those issues than not.
I still like the idea of building a Wharram Cat. It's the type of craft you want as opposed to settling for what is the cheapest of value. I built a 28' cutter and sailed 2/3 of the way around the world. The build process was very much part of the adventure.
Cheaper the boat the shorter or more work is needed due to age and lack of serious maintaining efforts. Cosmetics do not make the boat a good sailing vessel, so make sure the good sailing parts are perfect
S&S 42 ,,If you like this boat get it,, Big enough for open ocean,, full keel, protected rudder and prop... A good clean up and paint your be back on the water... 👍⛵👍
Nice boat, Awesome car. My first car was a mini 1968. Every time I went through a puddle it stopped running. Had to put a butter tub over something in the motor maybe (distributor) to keep it running 🤣🤣I had a little chrome bullbar, an awesome car. I wish I still had it.
Great video. Enjoying joining you on the search. The S&S is a nice looking boat 👍 Good on you for showing us around the other two boats you've got a good heart Mark. Bronski beat 😂😂 Umm the oil leaks on the Mini, my first car back in 1983 was a Triumph Dolomite Sprint, an awesome car to drive when it didn't overheat, bit of a Jekyl and Hyde car and Definite love hate relationship for me 😁 Cheers
Really looking forward to your next video about Wharrams. We met Ruth back in the early 80s at the London Boat Show. Take care & stay healthy. Give Yoshi a pet for me :)
As a retired US merchant sailor with 47 years in the business including maritime school, I have spent countless hours standing watch, repairing, cleaning, painting, mucking bilges, splicing lines, and polishing brass among other duties. Please give consideration to the owners of the S&S for the present condition of their vessel. They may not have the physical energy or financial resources to maintain the sailboat in yacht condition. In the US, the cost of maintaining a boat of this size at a marina would be beyond most middle class budgets.
Loving these boat searching videos, really appealing to those of us at the budget end who have dreams. Don't worry about making the vid titles too clickbaity, we want to see your options and thoughts anyway
The Westerly is a serious boat, they are well known for being world cruisers. I believe the sailboat in the movie / book the Perfect Storm was a Westerly 33 and survived the storm. The Sparkman is another well-known classic boat, however, is pretty old and will probably require a refit. If the Sparkman has all lines aft, it would be a plus. Single handling a boat that size could be a challenge but doable. With older boats always offer a lower price, there will be issues unforeseen.
Worth searching YT for Bob Shepton who has been taking his first and now second Westerly Discuss (33ft) to Greenland and the Arctic for many years. A real character 🙂
I like it. - enclosed pilot house. Good for cold and hot weather. Minus as far as I could tell there was no auto pilot ( a must) - Electric anchor winch :-). Perkins 408 a plus - Go back and go over it with a fine tooth comb and then make up your mind. Sell a share to your Pappa and Mamma they need more sea time under sail anyway. Good luck with what ever you decide.
The problem Mark, is where are you going to sleep? The aft cabin is perfect for your mom and dad, so? Check the steering under load, some have complaints about heavy steering. It has a heavy duty steering mechanism on S&S. I dont know if all but check it out!
The S&S looks like a decent boat for the money. It's a classic and pilot houses are convenient in wet or cold weather. Put little mini wood or diesel stove in it. It'd be cozy. As far as it appearing dirty and having green stuff growing, that's as much environmental as it is an owner not keeping after it. It's really damp in most of England. I live in a river valley next to both the river and a creek and Its like a rainforest here(USA). It doesn't take long for things to get out of hand. Keeping it covered with a dehumidifier going after a good cleaning before storing it would have been the best way to manage it. If it checks all your boxes, keep it in your yes column of boats you've seen
Hi not sure if u read the comments. S&S not cool in the med or carribian. Hard to manage with only 1 helm in DS. Taking Gybing u get nowhere fast if u need to because something goes wrong. and u know that happens esp with wind and waves. Super top heavy under storm conditions. Try kooking for a cutter rig with inner forstay with possbility for storm sail. My view of best multiple options.
The S&S would interest me for the right price. While every boat is a project the thing that stood out to me the most is that boat is actively for sale yet the owner could not be bothered to clean the dirt and mold off the decks and rigging. It makes me wonder what other maintenance items they could not be bothered to do? Perhaps it is a cultural thing from being across the pond but I cannot imagine wanting to sell a boat (or any item) without making it look the best it can for potential buyers. First impressions are valuable.
Spot on
My sentiments exactly. This owner has no pride in his boat. Makes me wonder what' else is wrong if the obvious stuff is not cared for. Walk away.
That same thought ripped through my head, when I used to rent my apartments all I ever did was walk outside and look inside there cars, if it was a filthy mess that’s exactly what the inside of there home will look like, go right to the next person
Correct spot on filthy and hiding bodged repairs
I understand where you want to go and don't disagree in principle, but the boat is class certificated. I think they have the same standard as here in Norway and there are strict technical requirements. If a boat has such a certification, you know that it is seaworthy. If the boat has been lived aboard then it is not unusual for the cosmetic to be a little shabby! Normally, they are good at maintaining what is important! S&S is built so solidly that the hull is not a concern.
But I basically agree, dirty object maintenance accordingly!
usual sellerts trick,'its under offer',always remember buyer beware there's thousands of boats for sale out there,if you miss one another will pop up next week
I agree lots of boats are always for sale! No hurry! Remember all boats are for sale ten minutes after purchase!
I ALSO AGREE. THE MARKET IS DROPPING AND BOATS COST TO KEEP AND MAINTAIN. DONT BE RUSHED .!!!!! TAKE YOUR TIME . MAKE A LOW LOW OFFER. EVEN A DAMNED CHEEKY ONE. IF YOU LOSE THIS ONE OTHERS WILL POP UP. and while I agree it might well be worth going for something that does not need a lot of work there is no such thing as ready to go. A jobs list will develop for sure.
I've been trawling boat sites here in Australia, unfortunately you're correct.
I'm looking at the same boats I saw in 2021 and they're still "under offer" lol
I’m so glad I found your channel. I too I’m boat hunting and picking up good tips from you. Looking forward to following your journey my friend.
I’ve followed Thomas’s channel, what a lovely guy and so nice of him and Max to reach out with help.
I used to live on a 60’ Dutch Barge (tchalk)had a huge marinised Daf engine, 2 generators. 2 bedrooms a bathroom with an actual bath!!! Even a washing machine and tumble dryer and dishwasher. Sheer luxury. 😂😂😂
I am pleased you are sticking to your principles and not rushing in to buying the first favourable offering, you are in a very good position, you have money in the bank, because of the world situation there will be lots of good value boats coming onto the market as people re-evaluate their outgoings, you will learn so much by having the luxury of no time pressures and being able to look round many boats, it also makes interesting viewing because we are all a bit nosy 😉
Absolutely, I love this content so boat hunting lends itself to weekly adventure blogs.
@@haydo8373 yeah there are some channels been running for years going round looking at boats for sale and the state of the market… i have found them very useful and informative.
Yep but sometimes you have to buy before the money dwindles
@@aevoguitars2576 Boy, do I know that or what. I had £5000 cash to buy a new Transit van for work and for towing the caravan, but 6 weeks of 'time off' later I only had £1500 left. I am NOT good with money.
@@Tampo-tiger I hear you, I had 10.5k for a camping car..I looked around all summer for one..Nothing ,now winter has arrived lots of bargains and my 10 k is now 1k😭😄
Your chanel is probably one of the most interesting to watch at this time. Brilliantly fly on the wall and don't change the style or format. Good luck and keep well. ROD UK.
Really great to see these older boats. Following your story with interest and I think I am enjoying the boat yard stories more than the sailing episodes. Great work and good luck
Thanks for keeping the channel going have followed for a long long time and am loving the search for a new boat. Keep up the great work we are not worried about the shaky camera or any other glitches or oil changes that's why we love the channel. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Cheers, John. Really nice to hear ✊
I would continue the Bronski Beat theme with the S&S 42. It's a slow heavy old boat that looks like it needs a lot of work and money to bring it back to a seaworthy condition. Also I think you would find a pilot house uncomfortable if you are planning to go to warmer climes. If you are planning a single-handed voyage then my preference would be 36 - 38 ft with a cutter rig if possible. Good luck with the search.
Dear capnordest
👍👌👏 Exactly! You are absolutely right, Sir! Way to much work to do and too much money to invest. And that although the budget would already have to be stretched.just to buy this old boat. No shower and the overall condition is "very much used" and not very clean. The best thing may the Perkins engine be.
Best regards, luck and health.
The arpeggiated bass is fading in…
Agree… Can’t beat a 38.
@@WildlingSailing good lad!
Do you know what a "current survey" is? Do you know what "coded" means? Seaworthy condition?? Some of the comments on this post not just this thread bewilder me . That boat is ready for blue water . Its Wales in winter , leave your deck for 2-3 weeks and algae is away to go , black mould appears in cabin condensation spots etc .
Mark if it feels right in your heart and your still happy after another inspection, go for it! I did like the full roof cockpit to keep out of the sun, and the canvas removable sides are a bonus to remove in warmer weather.
That looks like the perfect balance for a cheap boat. Not totaly a disaster. Just needing a lot of good care. Stilll a lot of work. But it should be easy to live aboard when you bring it back to mint condition. And the possibly for commercial use is a very nice option to have. And thanks for continuing to give us very good videos.
We have the sister ship of that S & S 42. Ours needs a bit of breeze to get moving but we did over 10 days of at least 150nm on the way to the Marquesan Islands and her best day ever was 200 miles in the South Atlantic. Our ketch is a Flamingo 42' (1979) built by Halstead International in Johannesburg, South Africa (not in Durban), but she launched in Durban. If you want more info contact us.
I sailed a 43 single handed. At times it was to much for me in certain conditions. I now have a 38 much happier. Good luck always fun looking at boats
If you are thinking of sailing single-handed on anything over 40 ft you want to consider the position of the winches and sheets and how easy the running rigging is to handle.. Otherwise you will be dashing everywhere and don't forget the bigger the boat the bigger the mooring fees.
Make a complete and detailed list of the items you want to look at in your second inspection(just like a surveyor's list). Give the owner a copy and let him know you need to look at those items. That way he knows you are not just knocking around on his boat and he can assist you in locating items. If this upsets him then there is probably a reason he does not want someone looking that close at his boat.
Totally agree, also suggest get a professional surveyor
Very worthwhile suggestion.
Reall good idea, I would also add "and make sure you use your list".
When I bought my last yacht I had a list based on previous surveys and then when I went for second look on the boat, owner and broker spoke not stop at me pointing out this, that and the other, getting out the photo album to show me how much Mary had enjoyed diving off the bowsprit, after an hour of this I'd completely forgotton about my list and just got swept along with the fever and now I'm paying for not being focused. As for professional surveys, I've only had bad experiences, and all there sureys are covered by the catch all "if it wasn't visible I'm not responsible". Aparently my surveyor was not responsibe for not noting that all the sea cocks were ceased and the compression post was badly corroded
Look sometimes it does happen that the first boat is the boat you buy.
I'd go for the W33. You just can't go wrong and it's a perfect size for you. They hold their value too.
Totally agree.
This is the right answer
Someone had gone to a lot of trouble replacing the old sagging headlining with quite a neat fixed and battened arrangement. But I'd have preferred the bilge keel version. It might be slower and less capable in a sea way, but a real boon for a drying mooring, ad-hoc beach inspection or boatyard maintenance...
Thanks
Love that you’re bombing around in an old mini all winter. Best car in the world haha. I have had a couple. My first car was a Metro which I still own and drive daily. Always nice to see other people driving stuff like this :)
Looking to move into a boat full time in 2024. I’ve hit subscribe!
I actually liked the 33, but both looked okay.. and I seriously doubt you will be single for long Mark!
But that 33 is still a world cruiser.. and you will get fit your pup, and your new girl on her easily, i probably liked it because it appeared to be played with less, meaning your not having to undo other peoples work, you can just Concentrate on the mods you want to do.. i agree with you “you don’t have to buy the first boat you see, however if the right boat you see is right and so is the price? If you think you will regret not buying her? Do it Mate! Sincerely all the best.. and any young ladies out there? His single and you know how to contact him! 😊
If the important parts of the boat are in good shape I would negotiate to the best price possible and buy it! It would of course be fun to continue looking around and MAYBE find a boat that is better for you but I think you have found a sturdy one that suits you. It would be hard to find a boat with a better design and name than an S&S as they are extremely well known and tested sailing machines. In good condition, this boat would make for an amazing offshore cruiser.
Ben i totally Agree with u there , Mark our words :) Good Luck Mate
She has nothing of a S&S design she is so top heavy.
that deck is rotten so many cracks on it, has to be, tip toeing on it does not tell anything.
At least 2 years work,that is &10000 in yard or morrage fees alone,then the real expenses start!
Video quality is fine.
Content is great.
Keep at it.
What was wrong with the Westerly 33 at £15k?
Five channels i follow all use 32 to 38 ft boats. Length alone does not make a blue water boat… 38 is more than enough. And a late 80s early 90s designed 38 will have more living space and more comfortable space than a longer older boat. And a ketch in general is IMHO a headache… but solo!!!
IMHO the S&S is still needlessly large and old.
Hello Mark
I keep dropping bits of advice, basically because I've been there done that. The S&S I thought was a good if not a spectacular buy.
Whatever you think of buying you might want to ask yourself one question, "Can I sail this boat on my own without crew?" And therein lies the question of choosing a suitable boat. You won't find the freedom you think you are looking for by buying a boat that needs a crew, or at best one that frightens you to death when you try to single hand the thing. Stay within your capabilities, move up when you have more experience.
Some bloke previously from near Wrea Green.
I am so glad you are not falling in to problems boats. It was a fantastic boat and the owner seams to be a great persons too very helpful. This is so interesting can't wait for more.
Nice boat that Sparkman but there is always more work to do on old yachts like, for example, those through hulls, you did them on Minky and it gave you reassurance so you may appreciate replacing them on any new yacht you buy. There are 100’s for sale and new ones coming up all the time, spend time seeing lots of boats so that you get a solid appreciation of prices and quality, eventually you will discover quality at a good price.
She has so much potential! S & S = built to last.
Thanks!
Great to see you looking at boats. You have lots to choose from and you will find the perfect one that fits your requirements.
I have that same book and I used it to inspect my current sailboat when I was searching for a project. Looking forward to the next video. Cheers! S/V Cork~Texas
Two nice solid boats. Mid Atlantic is the time you might appreciate solidity over out and out speed. I suppose not stretching your finances is wise because you are bound to have work to complete before a departure and even after of course. A shakedown always flags something that you missed.
Your looking happy mark. Good on you mate 😉
Yea, I love the look of the 42, could be a great project to get it the way you want. But right not to rush if there are plenty boats there will be a better one around the corner.
Marc, on my first boat, which coincidentally was an S&S34 I asked to stay on board for a night. This gave me the opportunity to go into every locker, under every bed, check every leaky through-hull etc in my own time. It was magic. I didn't really know what I was looking for, but It created a huge l;iust of questions and ultimately helped mie negotiate the final price.
The 34 is a super boat with a beautiful traditional-looking deck design yet it's thoroughly modern below the waterline. A classic looking S&S design which I've always admired. I am rather astonished that the boat Mark reviewed is from the same hand.
I would struggle in your situation Mark, I'd likely buy one of the first yachts I viewed, I'm glad you're getting good advice for seasoned viewers. Think of it as a game where you are optimizing the quality of boat for a giving amout of money. You're searching for the BEST yacht available for x amount dollars. You're cashed up so you can be selective. As others have mentioned, the market is only going to get more competitive and we love this new style of content! Happy hunting!
Takk!
Take your time Mark, no great rush, you will find the right boat.
I wouldn't get that for single handed sailing. Single handed motoring - perhaps, but not sailing. Never rush into a sale. I was so pleased when my patience paid off and now I sit next to the boat I nearly bought on impulse. Seeing it every day cements my belief you should never be rushed into a purchase.
Take your time, the right boat for you is out there, waiting for you. Don't buy the first one you see unless it screams at you "buy me". The ones you looked at this week were way more suitable than the stripped out one you saw first!
You are doing a great job looking at boats. Well done.. starting over again can be very difficult, you are doing awesome..
I love watching your videos because you are real, not putting on a show for the camera… blessings to you
The condition is exactly what is needed to catch the early Spring window to launch your cruise. Good luck mate!
And needing a crew wanting to go on adventure....
I am in love with the polit house boat I have to say. The lay out was gorgeous. I will be thinking about that one for a while.
Dont rush it Mark, there is a lot of boats out there. Take your time !!
Thumbs up for the algos. Hard when the market is so broad, but if a boat ticks all the boxes, you have to ask, "will i regret not buying"? There was a Fisher 31 for 15k in Sweden, thats a tough old boat for the money.
This is such great information on boat buying and people's comments are invaluable!
The Sparkman & Stevens is the boat I think UA-cam should go for if you can afford it. The budget must inkluderar costs for refurbising. But it is a very good choice. You can live on the boat and take some time to save money for refurbishing. During my more Than 40 years of sailing S&S boats have been one of my favorits because the are wellbuilt, strong and have a trick solid glassfiberhull. Don’t waste your time on other boats. Good Luck, from an 74 years old retired sailor from Sweden. I’m sailing a 36 foot Bacchant in summer.
Mark, it needs much more than a good cleaning and the cost is high for the year/condition. Move on, there’s plenty out there in better shape and ready to deploy.
Thanks for the shout out young man and your very welcome 🙏 it’s going to be epic once you get something you like and start your next adventure.
Thanks for your support, ‘‘twas about time you got a proper shout out, cheers fella!!
May your adventures continue and the sunshine follow !
Hope you enjoyed Cardiff Bay Yacht Club, we’re based there, when we were looking for our next yacht, Keith showed us several all different types so we could get a feel for what we wanted, very knowledgeable! Good luck in the search!
That Sparkman Stephens is a vessel that would be worth putting money into because she'll retain the value. The work and money you'd put into her would not be wasted and their are owners groups out there that can answer pretty much any question you may have. The fact she's registered as commercial is a huge plus as well even if all you want to do is take on crew that pays you for the privilege of being and working on board. There are also no shortage of them that have circumnavigated and as you mentioned they're built like tanks but also perform well. So far that's the best you've looked at for what you expect to use your new vessel for.
If I wasn't in the states I'd be taking a very serious look at that Westerly as she's exactly the type of vessel I'm looking for and that was a good price that I bet could be made better. Really enjoying your videos of the hunt and like you said it's always fun to get to look at different vessels even if they're not what your looking for. Funny part is you can see things on boats that you have absolutely no interest in that may provide some ideas of things to add to what you are looking for.
Anyway sorry for this book of a comment Mark and thanks again for taking us a long.
Fair winds, following seas, safe travels and God Bless...
This is brilliant Mark. Really enjoying the new stuff.
Great video Mark, I like that 42 ...looks to be in good shape. Nice to see you checking out boats again. Take care and be safe, two thumbs up.👍👍😎
Boatie folks = Best folk....This one seems to have better bones than the last. Lots of wood to keep track of, but that also makes it relatively easy to fix. The only down side would seem to be the less than ideal set-up for solo sailing and lack of speed. I assume she is sort of a "slow and steady" kind of gal. As you say, don't rush into anything. Going to Wharram sounds amazing. Cheers from FL, USA.
Way better than the last heap you looked at. Seems reasonable to me.
Hi Mark!
S&S is a great seaworthy boat and solid as a tank! BUT the mast i didnt like. I have never seen a mast split and pop together. In half, yes thats normal because of transport costs and has nothing to say about the mast's structural strength or performance.
I cant find any reason to split it and i see a lot of potential problems. It can't be good because there aren't many of them! (now I speak as a professional rigger for many years and a long distance sailor, that wants you to be safe!)
But i have never seen it before and have no experience, so try to find out more about it!
Don't apologize for the filming, one of the reasons I like your channel is that it is authentic and not a channel that looks like a scripted and directed commercial vid like many other sailing channels have become.
keep going fella, you will get there.
Bedankt
I am living since 7 yrs on a (very roomy, 3 meters beam) 27 Footer. I lived half of the time 2 Persons + Dog on Board. I sailed with this ship Baltic sea, North sea in Novembre, and currently the Med Sea. All singlehanded, even if 2 Persons on Board.
I would NEVER go for a huge ship like that if i am planning real long Distance an long time sailing. Handling of a smaller boat is much more easy, especially in difficult conditions and circumstances. Works and Maintenance are cheaper, faster done, and less effort.
If you want to TRAVEL instead of WORKING ON A COOL BOAT (while dreaming of traveling), try to get smaller and better condition boat instead of a big and cheap one. i would recommend a good 27 - 34 ft Boat ... e.g. a 27 ft Hallberg Rassy. Same Budget, but a safe, seaworthy boat ready to go .... high Quality.
Just my 5 Cents...
I would agree with you, the upkeep and running costs on the 42 will be significantly more than a 34-38 and an older 42 is much less suitable for single handed sailing than a modern boat. That S&S is a heavy old boat that is going to need a good breeze to get it moving too, the alternative is lengthy periods under engine, burning expensive diesel. Manoeuvring under power in small spaces single handed is going to be quite stressful too. Great boat for a retired couple with some money to run it and upgrade, perhaps less well suited for a young man on a tight budget, although I can see that it could be an excellent UA-cam project.
Completely agree. Far too big…unless Mark is going to start a family…and with someone with a good income.
Sub 30’. Ideally twin keel, or long enough to take the ground with legs.
Your having fun making these videos there is no real rush mark,wish your father had time to travel with you you make a fab double act and not forgetting your adorable mum 😊
I’d keep looking … that 42 looks like a big lump of a boat - look at the size of the sails on any boat you consider and think how you’ll reef and handle in a blow - cutter rigs are easier to handle . I’d go smaller in boat size - easier to manage and easier to maintain in every aspect - happy hunting !
Mark, I've been excited to find that you're back on the hunt and while a bit surprised by your decision to get back to what you love ... I'm loving every minute of the video's. It had to be difficult to let go of Meinke, especially considering how much work you and your Dad did together on that engine. Honestly I've not noticed a single black dot, shaky camera... anything. I'm sure I speak for all your viewers when i say you could record, edit and post on a 70s camcorder and we wouldn't care. Keep doing what you love and we're going to love following along. I hope you find the perfect boat and your dad joins you to help get it up to speed/cleaned up. I really enjoyed the time you had with him. He's a solid ole school grease monkey! See ya next week.
Thanks for posting and sharing. Very nice to see the boats with you.
5:15 WOW 😳 very nice. Well, Im not there to see it firsthand. But, wow, what a boat. Id LOVE to call her home.
Hi Mark. Been following your channel for years now, your enthusiasm is infectious! Good luck with the search and look foreword to your next adventures.
If you return to Cardiff and need a place to crash let me know.
I didn't notice the video being shaky, Least classic cars are easy to work on unlike the newer cars. That boat looks so good, looks like a perfect home for long trips at sea.
You were at my club ! The S and S has been for sale for a long time so I don't think there's a rush there and a low ball offer would help to pay for the inevitable work.
Building your own boat would give you a new boat, to your design and you'd know every inch/centimetre of it. There are plenty of videos out there of people who've done it...a French guy built one and it took him two years (with occasional help) then he sailed across the Atlantic back to Marseille...top speed of 18 kn !
Look forward to seeing what you think...
Ha, I figured that "got an offer" was just someone pushing him into a sale.
Yeah, pilgrim! But I think it took him 5 years 🙈🙈
Hey mark , that’s 100% better than the last one, 42 footer, pilot house for protection, get some electric rollers , etc , etc , whatever boat you get ( for the price your looking at ) , your gonna have to spend, I can see you and yoshi with your pirate eye patches , shouting yo ho ho and a bottle of rum 😂😂😂, like you say , look at the next one , give it a week , if you still want it , go back and do a thorough check, if you still like it go for it mate , I can see you on it sailing the seven seas 😎
Really good thoughts and that Sparkman looks good. You are wise though to take your time.
Hey man! I hope you are good today.. Take your time deciding... You will find the "perfect" boat. You are at the beginning of an amazing adventure! I am happy to be here with you. Rolf
I have been following you for a few years. In Denmark, there are many relatively many boats that meet your wishes. I think you can acquire good ships around, I would recommend that you search in Denmark, it is close to half the price of what you are checking right now, kind regards Peer
I am also loving the road trip with you and the ups and downs of the search plus yoshi along with the mini is now part of the family.
Blog on your followers, love your exploits
I do think you are making the right decision to not rush in, like a lot of the other comments there are lots of other boats, so something else will pop up. The more you look the more you will know when you find the right one. But a boat in this type of condition is what you need to look for. You can live and sail it now and fix up as you go. Stretching your budget a bit up front will absolutely save you money down the road. I would focus more on something close to 36 foot. As single hand sailor it will be easier to sail, easier to maintain and docking fees will be less. Always temping to get something bigger but 36 feet is still huge inside. Good luck
Great videos...I was/am I an analogous position where I recently purchased a 48' CSK catamaran in So. Florida. Huge project, with intentions of returning to Oregon on sail. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and experiences - invaluable information to help me on this plight. Good luck with your decision and I'm anxiously awaiting to hear what happens with the Wharram in Costa Rica.
LOVE to see you with a big smile on your face again matey. Can't wait untill your out there on the seas! Please don't sail alone though.
PS you appear to have a bit more joy in your present state, glad to see that you are motivated, Lots of Life ahead for you
I used to own an S&S 42 like this, however, it was in much better condition. Solid GRP for sure but if you proceed further, do check every skin fitting above and below the waterline very carefully. I took on a lot of water in rough seas through the anchor locker drains that were badly designed. It was an easy boat to sail single-handed. Comfortable and no slamming with such a hull design. A good long term budget cruiser but inspect every detail of the assembly and equipment installation.
Great episode Mark. It’s very refreshing to have an honest, down to earth guy sharing his opinions and thoughts. I’ve been addicted to boats since I was a kid and never tire of looking for that diamond in the rough, my problem is, I always find that diamond in every boat I see😂. Keep up the good work and good luck with your search bud.
Take your time mate, 42 big to single hand it can be done but there could certain circumstances where it would be too much. It you are really going to be predominantly single handed then it would be better to drop down to the 38 footer range. I like ketch rigs give more options for sail rigs. The sparks looks okay needs a big clean up but has good design pedigree only issue would be it it not going to leave you with much if any cash so doing things will be delayed while you put together some money. But it certainly looks livable while waiting.
I'd definitely have a very good look over that Westerly 33, that will take you anywhere and perfect size for single handed, its even got its own shed (aft cabin), good luck with what you settle on but remember the bigger the boat the bigger the budget, Is 40ft really necessary to single hand? The S&S is a lovely boat and will keep you safe but it will also bring you alot more financial burdens, good luck mate, im sure whatever you do it will work out, your that sort of bloke 👍
Nothing more exciting than looking at boats Mark. Can't believe you were in my own boat club too CBYC in Cardiff. Looking forward to next week's video.
I owned Yacht Mabalel for a few years, (1980's era) giving her a complete, out of the water, overhaul, including building the wheelhouse. Fantastic boat in every way. She had her own artic-truck trailer, too.
Don't you hate it when you decide to purchase something like a new boat and immediately after you start looking, with a million other boats in the world, you run up on something so unusual and in such good shape that would suit you well, before you've even had a chance to get your feet wet in the search! I REALLY like the Sparkman and Stephens, especially the aft cabin. But, If it's meant for you to have it, it will still be there when you're ready to buy. I think you should look around more before you decide, but it IS really tempting!
If you are worried about looking closer, take a friend along and call them surveyor. I think it doesn't have to be that much less to be worth while if the hull looks good. Have your friend/surveyor ask if it can be dried out on a grid (much cheaper than a haul out) if there is one close by. I think if you can satisfy yourself the hull is sound, the rest is at least known. _Any_ boat you buy will have issues that require work. Better to be able to see those issues than not.
I still like the idea of building a Wharram Cat. It's the type of craft you want as opposed to settling for what is the cheapest of value.
I built a 28' cutter and sailed 2/3 of the way around the world. The build process was very much part of the adventure.
Cheaper the boat the shorter or more work is needed due to age and lack of serious maintaining efforts. Cosmetics do not make the boat a good sailing vessel, so make sure the good sailing parts are perfect
Think it's a good fit for you, as long as the mechanics and main structures are solid you can do the cosmetics as you go on your adventures.
S&S 42 ,,If you like this boat get it,, Big enough for open ocean,, full keel, protected rudder and prop... A good clean up and paint your be back on the water... 👍⛵👍
Nice boat, Awesome car. My first car was a mini 1968. Every time I went through a puddle it stopped running. Had to put a butter tub over something in the motor maybe (distributor) to keep it running 🤣🤣I had a little chrome bullbar, an awesome car. I wish I still had it.
Great video.
Enjoying joining you on the search.
The S&S is a nice looking boat 👍
Good on you for showing us around the other two boats you've got a good heart Mark.
Bronski beat 😂😂
Umm the oil leaks on the Mini, my first car back in 1983 was a Triumph Dolomite Sprint, an awesome car to drive when it didn't overheat, bit of a Jekyl and Hyde car and
Definite love hate relationship for me 😁
Cheers
Really looking forward to your next video about Wharrams. We met Ruth back in the early 80s at the London Boat Show. Take care & stay healthy. Give Yoshi a pet for me :)
As a retired US merchant sailor with 47 years in the business including maritime school, I have spent countless hours standing watch, repairing, cleaning, painting, mucking bilges, splicing lines, and polishing brass among other duties. Please give consideration to the owners of the S&S for the present condition of their vessel. They may not have the physical energy or financial resources to maintain the sailboat in yacht condition. In the US, the cost of maintaining a boat of this size at a marina would be beyond most middle class budgets.
Loving these boat searching videos, really appealing to those of us at the budget end who have dreams. Don't worry about making the vid titles too clickbaity, we want to see your options and thoughts anyway
Mark good tidings. This boat looks good
The Westerly is a serious boat, they are well known for being world cruisers. I believe the sailboat in the movie / book the Perfect Storm was a Westerly 33 and survived the storm. The Sparkman is another well-known classic boat, however, is pretty old and will probably require a refit. If the Sparkman has all lines aft, it would be a plus. Single handling a boat that size could be a challenge but doable. With older boats always offer a lower price, there will be issues unforeseen.
* Westsail 32
@@paulboden7850 Your right my bad.
Worth searching YT for Bob Shepton who has been taking his first and now second Westerly Discuss (33ft) to Greenland and the Arctic for many years. A real character 🙂
@@pete9501 I will check it out thank you.
I like it. - enclosed pilot house. Good for cold and hot weather. Minus as far as I could tell there was no auto pilot ( a must) - Electric anchor winch :-). Perkins 408 a plus - Go back and go over it with a fine tooth comb and then make up your mind. Sell a share to your Pappa and Mamma they need more sea time under sail anyway. Good luck with what ever you decide.
My son has a Westerly Renown all Westerly boats are fabulous and built like tanks this will do the job for you.
been following for a bit, since you were working on the cat and I love your easy style, particularly round the boat yards. Love it.
The problem Mark, is where are you going to sleep? The aft cabin is perfect for your mom and dad, so?
Check the steering under load, some have complaints about heavy steering. It has a heavy duty steering mechanism on S&S. I dont know if all but check it out!
I understood about 30% of what boat owner Kevin said. That was a lovely homey boat👍
Love the aft cabin , that is a lot of boat ,take lots every thing.
Take your time, there's going to be deals to be made over this winter, thanks
The S&S looks like a decent boat for the money. It's a classic and pilot houses are convenient in wet or cold weather. Put little mini wood or diesel stove in it. It'd be cozy.
As far as it appearing dirty and having green stuff growing, that's as much environmental as it is an owner not keeping after it. It's really damp in most of England. I live in a river valley next to both the river and a creek and Its like a rainforest here(USA). It doesn't take long for things to get out of hand. Keeping it covered with a dehumidifier going after a good cleaning before storing it would have been the best way to manage it.
If it checks all your boxes, keep it in your yes column of boats you've seen
Hi not sure if u read the comments. S&S not cool in the med or carribian. Hard to manage with only 1 helm in DS.
Taking Gybing u get nowhere fast if u need to because something goes wrong. and u know that happens esp with wind and waves. Super top heavy under storm conditions. Try kooking for a cutter rig with inner forstay with possbility for storm sail.
My view of best multiple options.