Full Preterist Eschatology 101 | Sean McMahon Podcast
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@@carly8490 No
The Holy Spirit wasn't on the earth in Daniels day it was Archangel Michael , The Holy Spirit "Of God" didn't show up until Christ was baptized John was a witness ..
But I get it 👍
@@Terri981 curious as to your source on this. The OT has numerous occasions where the Holy Spirit comes upon people
@@realSeanMcMahon There is no mention of the Holy Spirit till then ..
Thank you so much for this teaching. Been a dispensationalist (w/o knowing it) for over 30 years, since I got saved but in the past 7 -10 have been questioning the 'end times rapture' and so I'm finally just recently looking into preterism. It's all making sense and eradicates all the confusion. I'm going to try to listen to all your videos. You lay it out so well. Thanks again! 🙌
Thanks for listening. We’re all students
Thank You for sharing the Preterist worldview. I have been a full preterist for 15 years now and found it has the answers for all other worldviews. Dispensationalism being the most dangerous of them all.. It will only breed disappointment and eventually unbelief due to all the false prophesies they are hanging on. As a preterist, we can live as knowing who we are in Christ and all we are expected to be doing, is to reflect Jesus within us and continue sharing the kingdom of God as here and now and not a utopian physical kingdom that the world is waiting on.
Well said
Then what are we waiting on if not a new heaven and new earth where man will no longer die and things will be as they were intended to be? Where's the great city of new Jerusalem? Where it says the children of God will dwell with christ?
What happens to us when we die then? What about all the pestilence and disease? What about the lgbtq and trans people? What about the jews? They still don't believe in christ yet revelation says they will come to know him during the tribulation when the antichrist turns on them.
@@jamesvan2201
You are waiting for a physical kingdom just like the Pharisees. They too did not understand Christ’s kingdom is spiritual. It was at hand 2000 years ago my friend ❤
Full preterist for 20 years now. The only system that interprets the NT writers correctly.
@Visit ScriptureStudydotGuide There is no answer to a question filled with preconceived errors.
Tell us more about what you believe in the 2nd coming of Christ. I am a futurist ,and cannot see how He has already come.
Do you believe this happened in the first century? Matthew 24:30-31: “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then ALL the peoples of the earth (NOT just Jerusalem) will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, (NOT just Jerusalem) from one end of the heavens to the other." IF this happened in the first century and ALL the peoples of the earth saw the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, I think it would be the most spectacular event in all of history and historical records around the entire world would be rife with reports of dumbfounded people in total shock at the most amazing sight ever! Notice it says ALL the people of the earth and not just those around Jerusalem. Or are you saying All the peoples of the earth is a metaphor for people around Jerusalem. Sorry, this did NOT happen in the first century Jerusalem. How do you make some things metaphors and others literal, like passages in Revelation that say certain events will happen soon, or quickly? Also, the word translated soon in Revelation (these things will soon happen) is according to Strong’s the Greek word “tachei” and it means: quickness, speed; hastily, immediately. So, it can be a reference to a particular event happening at a quick pace once it starts. Also in the Olivet Discourse in Matthew Jesus HIMSELF says, “Immediately after the distress of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light." This is the sign that Joel 2:31 says come right before the Day of the Lord. Peter says "The Day of the Lord comes as a thief, the heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will melt in fervent heat, and the earth and ALL its works will be laid bare." This ABSOLUTELY did not happen in the first century.
@@Mike-qt7jp yes thats what i've been trying to tell these preterists too.
@@Mike-qt7jp You either BELIEVE what Jesus said, what the Apostles said and wrote, and what the other NT writers wrote...........or you don't. Its your choice. I have chosen to believe THEM!
I recently read all the prophets again and then read revelation approximately 50x. I was a futurist 2 years ago … I can no longer be. You are right. It’s all been here in the Bible and history confirms it. And it’s a beautiful confirmation of God’s sovereignty and reason to celebrate, not fear.
Pre trib evangelical my whole life. I always stumbled at the “This generation” quote by Jesus in Matthew 24. This teaching blew my mind. Got a lot of homework to do now. Thank you!
Thanks for listening! God bless
"This generation"didnt mean the 1st century generation.Its about the generation that sees all the matthew 24 signs,once the Gospel has been preached in all the world and then the end comes. The gospel was not preached in all the world in the first century.
@@Elvengem THAT completely violates the common rules of reading texts. When Jesus said "this generation;" He was referring to the one He was standing right in front of! He uses the same words in MT 23 about the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem. History records the events predicted occurred in 70AD. There is no ambiguity here, except to those uninformed.
@@Elvengem Paul said that the gospel had gone out to every creature under the whole heaven in his 1st century day! Col 1:23. But I guarantee you, you will not believe Paul either.
@@makarov138 I wont believe Paul either? It does not say, “has been proclaimed” - it “is proclaimed in all creation.” as in its still ever presently being preached and given Word of the Gospel where it travels forth. It is already proclaimed as an existent fact in creation that Christ died for all,and it is now a part of all existence but the knowledge of it must be ministered forth by ministers of that Word. 'The real translation does not say it had already been fully preached in all creation! If it had been,then why were there still pagan nations such as the Native Americans all over the world up to the 20th century? The solution is that the translation “which has been proclaimed,” is not at all the most natural translation. It baffles me why translations give it that meaning, a temporal meaning, “which has been proclaimed.” That’s translating two Greek words, “the proclaimed” - tou kērychthentos. That’s all it’s translating: “the proclaimed.”
It is a straightforward aorist passive participle in agreement with the word gospel. Both of them are genitive singular, and thus clarifying. It clarifies and defines the kind of gospel we’re talking about. With the article the in front of the participle, it is not an adverbial participle telling when. There’s nothing temporal about it. It doesn’t say “has been proclaimed.” That’s not in the word at all. Very literally it would read like this: “. . . the gospel that you heard, the proclaimed one in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister.” The proclaimed gospel is being ministered. The Proclaimed gospel is the one that is presently being administered to all creation. It was not all preached in the 1st century. It was spiritually proclaimed into creation by becoming a spiritual fact of the salvation of creation and man, God proclaimed the Gospel had begun to be a saving fact to all creation,while the ministers must be the fishers of men and women to preach the gospel.
This is one of the clearest presentations of this topic that I have ever heard.
Thanks so much!
The best explanation I have ever heard in less than 20 minutes
That was awesome, simple, inspirational... Thank you!
thanks for listening Jody!
Amen brother… I became a full pret a few years ago. From there my studies led me to conclude that the old and new covenants only ever applied to Israel and Judah. You and I were never included. Enjoy the journey!
I've heard of that view! I investigated it, didn't totally hold water for me, but I know some FP's gravitate toward it. Interestingly enough, FP eschatology helped me understand Biblical 1st century ecclesiology in such a way that it led me to Catholicism.
@@realSeanMcMahonyou said led - there are spirits everywhere, messing with your minds and leading you where they want you to be
@@realSeanMcMahonare you still associating with Roman Catholicism?
This is an excellent foundational message!
Thank you for listening!
Great! Another great teaching on full preterism from a real full preterist!!
Thanks!
if you are a full preterist you cannot be a christian. full preterism says that christianity ended in 70AD as did christ, satan, spiritual death, the holy spirit.
I think the man who made this video calls himself a christian so is not a full preterist he is a partial preterist
@@ricdavid7476 As a full preterist I have first-hand knowledge that preterism does not teach that Christianity ended at 70AD! You Sir, have been lied to!!
@@makarov138 with all due respect you are not a full preterist. Tell me one of jesus prophecies that were not fulfilled by the destruction of unbelieving Israel and the temple in 70ad?
@truth equals freedom he doesn’t seem to be doubting my faith, since he suggested that I might be a partial preterist. I suppose he meant that charitably.
But I think maybe he’s confused the “Israel Only” doctrine with the whole of full preterism. To be fair, certain people who associate with FP hold the erroneous IO view, and I think he’s right about them - they don’t really call themselves Christians, to the extent that most of them don’t believe that Christianity exists anymore since AD 70. That’s how I understand it, anyway. But no, I certainly don’t agree with them. Thanks for listening!
Eye opening! Absolutely fascinating to learn and to be open…. Believer since a child but never bought into rapture and just learning preterist views but it resonates in and with me! Thank you!
Thanks for listening!
End Times was the OC curses on OC people
Very good synopsis brother. I was minding my own business and had as an antenna of curiosity, in my bible reading, "Where did the OT prophets obtain their authority?" James said they were just men like us. Of all the things God gave me that shook me was the preterist view, and the universalist view of Scripture. Authority came via scripture resting with itself in my mind. The amount of prejudice I had and ignorance (not completely overcome) was astounding. Don Preston was/is a major find and resource. What is missing with that brother is that it is too academic, and what is hinted at here with you is what I call the "So What?" How does this effect my love, my walk, my relationship with Jesus? Thanks for putting this out there.
Thanks for listening! I love Don's work as well, but yes, he speaks as a scholar not so much a preacher, so it can get in the weeds and a bit niche (which is great for anyone studying the topic). I thought a brief intro to FP was necessary, since most content is quite wordy and long -- so I wanted to provide something shorter, less theologically complex, more pastoral.
Well done brother.😊🎉❤🕊️👑
thanks for listening!
Crazy full Preterist here, lol. Since early 1980s. I keep trying to refute my own belief, but it just keeps standing!
SAME here
Full Preterism in its true form concludes that the Bible does not apply to humanity beyond 70 AD.
We are simply reading a religious story of Israel’s Messiah in the 1st century.
@@TristanG21 I can’t agree… even though it wasn’t written to us it’s principles and commands apply to our lives especially since after all we are all human and suffer the same tendencies therefore the Bible helps guide us as it did for those to whom it was written. Preterism is simply the belief that all things written were fulfilled not that the words of wisdom do not apply to humanity… just my opinion
@@trwhitr Please provided the single passage that was intended to apply beyond 70 AD.
“This gospel of the kingdom, shall be preached in the whole world, for a testimony to all nations, and then *the end* shall come” - Matt. 24:14
Jesus said the gospel mission would end in 70 AD when Christ Returned to bring salvation to the saints at the Final Judgment on Jerusalem. There is no eternal gospel mission to reach all nations over and over again after its full completion.
Scripturally, there is no gospel mission after 70 AD. If so, where do we see the Apostles preaching after 70 AD?
Moreover, Adam’s curse also ceased when the Law of Moses passage away.
“These be the days of vengeance which all things that are written will be fulfilled”
This means everything was completed in the 1st century.
@@TristanG21 “the Bible doesn’t apply to humanity” is the comment I do not agree with. The fact that it was written and fulfilled pre 70 is not a problem for me.
I don’t know if I am a buyer, but your style and presentation are very good. I sense no condescension
Thanks brother
Its poetry month so here you go
Hilarious but pertinent
The Calf Path
One day through the primeval wood
A calf walked home as good calves should;
But made a trail all bent askew,
A crooked trail as all calves do.
Since then three hundred years have fled,
And I infer the calf is dead.
But still he left behind his trail,
And thereby hangs my moral tale.
The trail was taken up next day,
By a lone dog that passed thet way;
And then a wise bell-wether sheep
Pursued the trail o'er vale and steep,
And drew the flock behind him, too,
As good bell-wethers always do.
And from that day, o'er hill and glade.
Through those old woods a path was made.
And many men wound in and out,
And dodged , and turned, and bent about,
And uttered words of righteous wrath,
Because was such a crooked path;
But still they followed-do not laugh-
The first migrations of that calf,
And through this winding wood-way stalked
Because he wobbled when he walked.
The forest path became a lane,
That bent and turned and turned again;
The crooked lane became a road,
Where many a poor horse with his load
Toiled on beneath the burning sun,
And travel some three miles in one.
And thus a century and a half
They trod the footsteps of that calf.
The years passed on in swiftness fleet,
The road became a village street;
And this, before men were aware,
A city's crowded thoroughfare.
And soon the central street was this
Of a renowned metropolis;
And men two centuries and a half,
Trod in the footsteps of that calf.
Each day hundred thousand rout
Followed the zig zag calf about
And o'er his crooked journey went
The traffic of a continent.
A hundred thousand men were led,
By one calf near three centuries dead.
They Followed still his crooked way,
And lost one hundred years a day;
For thus such reverence is lent,
To well established precedent.
A moral lesson this might teach
Were I ordained and called to preach;
For men are prone to go it blind
Along the calf-paths of the mind,
And work away from sun to sun,
To do what other men have done.
They follow in the beaten track,
And out and in, and forth and back,
And still their devious course pursue,
To keep the path that others do.
But how the wise old wood gods laugh,
Who saw the first primeval calf.
Ah, many things this tale might teach-
But I am not ordained to preach.
By Sam Foss
1895
Brilliant. How apt. And done with a light touch.
I had never heard of this poem. Thank you.
@@dantallman5345
"" ACTION ALERT ""
DIVINE CLOUD COMING across the NATION! ( in Judgment & Mercy )
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Through the eye wall of the storm
He finds himself in thunders home
A swirling tempest all around
He flys aloft above the ground
The darkness swells on rolling clouds
A piercing light from trumpets loud
A grasp of breath, a silent cry
He stands within the Mighty eye
A still and peaceful crowns abode
He utters forth a Royal poem
Assured of life with peace within
He rides the eyewall of the wind
And landing safely on the earth
He tells the story of rebirth
Of life again from deaths abode
He spreads the truth along the road
A life that's lost can rise again
Inside the eye wall of the wind
2017 JS
Source- Apocalyptic Plastic Poetry
Origin- Feb 2017 betrayal & failure to unify politically with continued sowing of abominable discord!
Pressure- Mb 38 Job
Mysterium Tremendum! Numinous experience resulting in poetic oration. See the idea of the HOLY by R. Otto - Pge. 179 Saint Chrysostom's sermon -also the Son of man and the KOG.
ACTION ITEM- Earnest heartfelt prayer for repentance through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Recommendation- Zeal & Courage in opposing the extinction of the higher order of life by the lower presuppositions.
Advisory- Gear Up & Re-Up your Calling with a Commissioning from the Throne. How shall they go except they be sent.
Particular matter- 30 to 40 yrs preparation and specialized training to:
1. Proclaim the KOG W/Power
2. Preach the Word of the Cross
3. Demonstrate Gods redeeming love in reconciling the world through Christ Jesus.
Urgency- God always has His Emergency men for the hour of national crisis.
Who will go? Isa.52:7
Visibility- Thone vision call after the tradition of Isaiah and St Paul.
Accompanying Gifts- Wisdom, Counsel and Guidance with Great Joy and Boldness……………………
Also an Iron Forehead (emph. mine) to withstand persecution and betrayal.
Authorization- for higher Gifts possible but not likely.
Title: Disciple/Bond Servant - Apprentice to the Master.
Wages- GS ♾ Gods protection and provision.
Benefits- To see His Glory-
if the Apostolic tradition of taking up the cross is followed. Mk 9:9
DMGE RPT- Dispensationalism and Absolute Strict Predestination being swept away by the continuing hail storm.Isa 28:17
SIT REP.- Ongoing flood of ----- --------- communism with continued masses fleeing their ruined countries. He's not going back to the first among equals rule and continues to claim exclusivity with an especially vicious intolerance of a procrustean sort.
Recovery efforts- Renew the extraordinary spiritual vitality which was poured forth in the faith of the Apostolic experience.
And confirmed to us in their teaching about Jesus.
(Acts 2-33, Heb 2-3,Jn 17-20).
Vibration- GREAT I AM 🎼ROCK U LIKE A HURRICANE 🎶
Duration- Ongoing and widespread judgment, a real Draco!
End of climate change alert.
"Communion with God is both rest and action. It is the center of the Eternal Typhoon".
Established by 2 or 3 witnesses.
FEAR GOD AND GIVE HIM GLORY
1.SERAPHIM SONG/POEM
2.WHIRLWIND POEM ABOVE
3. GLORY OF THE CROSS ORACLE
Dan
I was a first responder for disasters around the country for a federal agency. At which time I wrote initial damage assessments ,hence, the modified form above.
Nicely presented.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed
someone has said that revelation is john's olivet discourse.
ON Earth AS IT Is IN Heaven 💯💯
We are literally the generation tasked with ushering in the Return of our Lord.. we have to PREPARE ourselves and each other for Him to come back !! #ComeLordJesusCome
“The Son of Man coming on the clouds”…what a study.
I’m new in discovering that this theory (or maybe not a theory) may have some truth. I’m quite troubled by it. Not that my faith has lessened at all, it’s more of an overwhelming information overload. History has been so twisted, falsely told, destroyed, buried (literally) that it’s impossible to know what our real history is. What I do know with every cell in my body is that the Bible is the TRUE word of God, and Jesus is LORD.
Nice to hear from you Amanda, thanks for listening. Preterism is a very edifying study - because it is a process of ever deepening our understanding of God’s faithfulness to us with His fulfilled promises.
I want to encourage you in your research. I’ve recently been studying preterism in early church history (see my recent Millennium series) and I am happy to report it was certainly believed and taught. History is complicated, but I do take comfort knowing that God has never let truth be buried.
It is so liberating to use one's mind! Did historical timelines with details from many sources...also looked at the history of Asia Minor and Jerusalem 1069 and on. It's history. God is good. Jesus told the truth.
Thanks for listening. Care to elaborate?
Excellent.
The futurist church is scared to death of preterism because they know they cannot refute it. They know that their doctrines will look silly if they try to debunk or debate Preterism.
Apostle Paul addresses this in 2nd Thessalians. There was a doctrine that was being taught that the believers missed the second coming. Paul assured them that it was not so. If the second coming has happened and we are living in the new jeruarsalem something is wrong. Explain why are we still dealing with war famine diseases and evil in this world?
@@donaldpeacock5824 because the church is waiting upon a second coming while they should be making the kingdom spread big time!!!
@@donaldpeacock5824 2000 years have come and gone since then. How do you know the 2nd coming has not occurred yet?
@@ellenstar1155 so that is why Republicans want to take the throne and rule everyone and Trump is their messiah. Christians cannot make this world change completely.They already tried it in Plymouth bay colony Massachuseets and it was a disaster.
We futurists can refute it. The gospel has not been preached in all the world and the 1st century did not risk all life would be lost if those days hadnt been cut short,since they didnt have nuclear weapons then and also not all the stars fell from the sky then and not all the nations mourned seeing the Son of Man return.
May you find rest, peace and renewed joy this Easter season
“Easter?” Really? The Messiah taught us to obey Torah and to do “Passover!” We are not allowed to celebrate meaningless religious celebrations of the nations. You think the YHVH created Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread fail to teach about the Messiah’s resurrection? Did such an event slip the mind of the creator so that you are required to celebrate spring pagan festivals and force the Jewish Messiah into them?
Easter, Christmas, Halloween, etc have nothing to do with the Jewish Messiah (who was born in Autumn on Sukkoth, circumcised on the Eighth Day Assembly, dies on Passover and Raised on First Fruits!)
Did you not read that the Messiah taught that everything in the Torah is about Him! Are you going to invent a celebration about the Messiah (or steal a pagan celebration) that is superior to a YHVH created celebration?
Dude? Repent already!
@@kepha5143 "" ACTION ALERT ""
DIVINE CLOUD COMING across the NATION! ( in Judgment & Mercy )
------------------------------------------------
Through the eye wall of the storm
He finds himself in thunders home
A swirling tempest all around
He flys aloft above the ground
The darkness swells on rolling clouds
A piercing light from trumpets loud
A grasp of breath, a silent cry
He stands within the Mighty eye
A still and peaceful crowns abode
He utters forth a Royal poem
Assured of life with peace within
He rides the eyewall of the wind
And landing safely on the earth
He tells the story of rebirth
Of life again from deaths abode
He spreads the truth along the road
A life that's lost can rise again
Inside the eye wall of the wind
2017 JS
Source- Apocalyptic Plastic Poetry
Origin- Feb 2017 betrayal & failure to unify politically with continued sowing of abominable discord!
Pressure- 38 Mb Job
Mysterium Tremendum! Numinous experience resulting in poetic oration.
ACTION ITEM- Earnest prayer for repentance through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Recommendation- Zeal & Courage in opposing the extinction of the higher order of life by the lower apprehensions and presuppositions.
Advisory- Gear Up & Re-Up your Calling with a Commissioning from the Throne. How shall they go except they be sent.
Particular matter- 30 to 40 yrs preparation and specialized training to:
1. Proclaim the KOG W/Power
2. Preach the Word of the Cross
3. Demonstrate Gods redeeming love in reconciling the world through Christ Jesus.
Urgency- God always has His Emergency men for the hour of national crisis.
Who will go? Isa.52:7
Visibility- Thone vision call after the tradition of Isaiah and St Paul.
Accompanying Gifts- Wisdom, Counsel and Guidance with Great Joy and Boldness……………………
Also an Iron Forehead (emph. mine) to withstand persecution and betrayal.
Authorization- for higher Gifts possible but not likely.
Title: Disciple/Bond Servant - Apprentice to the Master.
Wages- GS ♾ Gods protection and provision.
Benefits- To see His Glory-
if the Apostolic tradition of taking up the cross is followed. Mk 9:9
DMGE RPT- Dispensationalism and Absolute Strict Predestination being swept away by the continuing hail storm.Isa 28:17
SIT REP- Ongoing flood of R.C. Communism with continued masses fleeing their ruined countries. He's not going back to the first among equals rule and continues to claim exclusivity with an especially vicious intolerance.
Recovery efforts- Renew the extraordinary spiritual vitality which was poured forth in the faith of the Apostolic experience.
Confirmed to us in their teaching about Jesus.
(Acts 2-33, Heb 2-3,Jn 17-20).
Vibration- GREAT I AM 🎼ROCK U LIKE A HURRICANE 🎶
Duration- Ongoing and widespread judgment, a real Draco!
End of climate change alert.
"Communion with God is both rest and action. It is the center of the Eternal Typhoon".
Established by 2 or 3 witnesses.
FEAR GOD AND GIVE HIM GLORY
1.SERAPHIM SONG/POEM
2.WHIRLWIND POEM ABOVE
3. GLORY OF THE CROSS ORACLE
Hey kepha the law fulfilled around 70 ad along with the feast days.
The one I keep is the 8th day Sabbath of Eternal rest. It's great, you should find out about it.
Once your in no one can touch.
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Thank you!
Well done
Thanks for listening David
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
I don't understand partial-preterism. I can relate to how difficult it must be to fully let go of a lifelong paradigm. though. I can neither understand cessationism among full-preterists.
I’m actually in a ThD program right now and I’m hoping to do a dissertation relation to why the charismatic is perfectly consistent with full preterism. Hopefully that’s what I’ll get to do!
The only way the bible makes any sense is in a full preterist context. Jesus, the holy spirit, satan spiritual death all ended in 70AD
I'm a short seasonists. We are in Revelation 20. The time of Gog and magog and Satan's short season..
Remarkable! Thank you.
This makes me excited to hear. Thank you for sharing. I heard an old song about AD 70 not too long ago. That’d be so cool if you could do a cover 😄
Thanks for listening - and what is the song? I’d love to hear it
I’ll try to find and reply again… So far what’s coming up in searches are not the one I heard! And I can’t remember the artist…
What are your thoughts on Matt. 27:52-53?
Very interesting. Stay Blessed
you too!
Some of this is making sense to me coming from dispensation. So the writings of Josephus should be added to bible as an amendment? Why are we not better if this is the kingdom? Have so many question my head is spinning.
Please answer this question… what are we to look forward to with this view? Is there an end and what does that look like?
Thanks for listening! I would answer your question from two angles: the eternal and the temporal.
Speaking of eternity, I believe we can all look forward to the same thing that futurists look forward to - except immediately after death. As the Church has taught for millennia, the glorified saints (Church Triumphant) intercede for humanity alongside the angels, and exercise judgment over the affairs of the new creation in the presence of the Lord (Rev. 14:10, Rom. 2:16).
As for this temporal life, we in the Church Militant do the same, exercising the same Kingdom authority, albeit with limited power proportional to our “earthen vessels” (2 Cor. 4:7).
Another thing worth celebrating: many have forgotten why, but the liturgy as we received it from the first Christian generations has always spoken of the Church as the New Jerusalem, the place where heaven and earth meet. Go to a modern Catholic Mass and you’ll still hear them proclaim this. Go to an Eastern Orthodox mass, where the words of the liturgy are even older, and they pray gratitude that the Second Coming is past when they offer the Eucharist (Thanksgiving): “Do this in remembrance of Me! Remembering this saving commandment and all those things *which have come to pass for us*: the Cross, the Tomb, the Resurrection on the third day, the Ascension into heaven, the Sitting at the right hand, *and the Second and glorious Coming.*”
As far as I can see in scripture, there is no end to this physical temporal world (God won’t destroy it) neither the eternal one, and both are joined together in marriage. We are in an everlasting covenant that can’t be broken because it has the forgiveness of sins built into the deal!
@@realSeanMcMahon Agree, there is no end. There will always be those within the kingdom, and those in the outer darkness.
@@realSeanMcMahon regarding your last paragraph: From my understanding of FP, sin, disease, crime and death will continue on forever (for mankind will still be born sinners by brith, nature, choice and practice). Is this also your understanding ?? And if that be the case, scientists tell us that our sun will eventually 'burn out' some 5-8 billions years from now. Scientists can measure the sun's burn-rate. Are you saying God will stop this burning-up at some point, so the Earth will continue on forever ?? Thanks in advance.
Great stuff full pret for 27 years, the only thing so far is the resurrection of ephesians is symbolic. The resurrection of the dead if from the grave dan 12:2 yahukanan 5:28. Results are 1 cor 15:44 in the first century. Not attacking you at all sir. Great stuff!
Thanks for sharing!
im just wondering if this is true what does that mean for us now what is our destiny and what does that mean for us when we die and the world ???
Any thoughts on John of Gischala as the man of lawlessness that Paul wrote about declaring himself God in the temple?
I think he’s the best candidate!
@@realSeanMcMahon So definitely Nero would not be a candidate for the man of lawlessness in 2 Thess?
In my opinion, Partial Preterism fits scripture. 2nd Esdras chapter 11 depicts a line of US presidents, some of whom are still alive. We are living at almost the very end of the Short Season.
Analysis, proofs, dates and timelines at my YT channel.
Thanks for your friendly dissent! I suppose if you're correct, we may live to see it. While I don't agree, I can't say I know for sure can I? All that matters is His eternal gospel, and that we who believe live for Him. God bless you brother!
What were the books that you recommended?
I'm not Preterist, but well spoken!
Thanks!
So good thanks !!
Thanks for listening!
Is anyone willing study preterist veiw.
I could understand new jerusalem being the church cause thier both referred as the bride of Christ.
I could see the coming of the Lord was extremely soon in the life of the apostles.
But one thing that i cant understand is if satan has been cast in to the lake of fire with false prophets why are their still demons today?
Iv seen them and i cant deny that.
I would love study with someone so i could understand scripture more clearly cause doing this alone ia exhausting.
Re: your question - it all depends on the meaning of the lake of fire doesn’t? What say you?
OPTIC = One Prince Took International Control
Hello. If all prophecies are fulfilled, then how can we know that God is still saving Christians today? It seems as though God has brought a full stop after the destruction of the temple. I am struggling with this.
The house of Israel is the new Jerusalem, Galatians 4:26. Those who are born again today, are the off spring. Remember, Abraham is the father of many nations, whom Christ came from his seed. Jesus is the husband, whom the Jews who rejected, committed spiritual fornification too when they cried out “We have no king but Caesar!”.
I tend to think of the 1st century historical events as typological of metaphysical realities rather than future events (as per the futurist view). Therefore I look forward to seeing the Lord in His fullness when I leave this world, and in that way I suspect my hope is not terribly different from most Christian’s!
Still new to all this. Are we living in Satans littlemseason?
I’m 5 months new to this as well, being saved 11 years. This rings true on the inside and scripturally as well. That’s my question too..we must be living in the little season? Right?!
@@StukaSwazi No, I don’t think so. The purpose of the “little season” in Rev. 20 is to gather the nations for battle (v8f) and that is a prophecy of the Jewish War (parallel to Daniel 9:26f and the Olivet discourse). Thanks for listening!
@@realSeanMcMahonI am new to this too. Seeing how much deception is in the world, today, is what lead me to realizing that we could be in “the short time”, after the literal 1,000 reign of Christ.
But everything you’re saying makes sense, so I don’t know how to reconcile the fact that everywhere you turn, in the world, is just deception everywhere.
But that could just be a product of being “in the light”, I can “see” now, and when I wasn’t in the light I couldn’t see the deception?
Idk, I just want to know the truth.
@@josiahmoeller8821 Thanks for listening! A few people seem to be tripped up by the “why is there evil in the world” and so have spoken of that “short while” or “little season” as if that’s the last time evil or deception exists on earth according to prophecy. However, that is not the case. Revelation closes with the promise that “those who are victorious will inherit all this” goodness in the New Jerusalem but outside are “the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars” (Rev. 21:7-8, 22:15). It’s similar to what Jesus said about the poor - they will always be here on earth. But our focus should be on the Kingdom of God - the !New Jerusalem is the Church. Hence the ancient saying, “extra ecclesiam nulla salus” (“outside of the church, no salvation”).
@@realSeanMcMahon Thanks for the response! I love your videos and music. I’ve been a worship drummer since I was 8yrs old.
I was also thinking a bit and had a question about this: “For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.”
I Corinthians 11:26 NKJV
I remember you saying you recently became catholic, and I know Catholicism has pretty strong beliefs about Eucharist, and they’re obviously not the only ones who take, what other refer to as, communion.
If Paul says: “you declare the Lords death until He comes” does that mean that the practice of taking the Eucharist is completely done away with?
Just interested in your thoughts.
Facts!!!
I’m taking my first real look at the topic. I have two questions you did not cover.
1: rev 20:11-15 and Rev 21:10-Rev 22:5 obviously these have not happened. I’m truly interested in topic. Can you please explain. Thank you I’m advance.
Thanks for listening Bob! I’d be happy to cover this in the near future. Give my channel a follow and turn on notifications so you’ll get it once it drops.
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@@auntieanna Great writers
it's difficult to witness spiritual events as such. But there were natural events taking place that pointed to the reality if their fulfillment. The Church is the "Bride of Christ", aka the "New Jerusalem" that great City of God descended from Abraham the Father of the faith. “But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.”
Confused on how you account Jesus to the woman at the Well
Can you elaborate?
Its been said that from the bible it can be shown that jesus only preached from one passover to the next then was crucified in 30AD after that his people went into the "willderness" of 40 years and then jesus returned to take them to their promised land, jesus returned in 66Ad at the commencement of the roman/jewish war starting his 3 year final work culminating in the final destruction of the temple and unbelieving Israel in 70AD. The feet of iron/clay were the period between the burning of rome when nero commenced his persecution of christians during which the non believing jews collaborated with rome in this persecution this collaboration ended at the start of the roman jewish war. The beast was unbeliving israel and the mark was the law. 70AD marks the end of the bible, jesus work, christianity, satan, sin, spiritual death , the beast and false prophet.
Merci seigneur pour ma vie cachée en Christ
Merci!
I am a partial preterist. My main issue of hyper or full preterism is the resurrection of the just band unjust. The first resurrection is Jesus. Blessed is he (or she) that shares in that resurrection. But the rest of the dead lived not til the thousand years (the church age) were (was) finished. The Gentile church age is symbolized by the thousand years. It seems to me that Jesus came in judgment in AD 70, but He will come again personally to catch away the church. Then Gog and Magog. Then the final resurrection of the just and unjust when people are raised up, some to everlasting life and some to everlasting contempt (Dan 12:2 and John 5:29). Explain to me how the final resurrection transpired in AD 70. Thanks
Thanks for listening Jonathan. Here's my take:
The first resurrection refers to those in Christ, those who have passed from judgment according to Jn. 5:24. The second resurrection pertains to everyone else. The numbering of the resurrections doesn't necessarily apply to sequence, but rank, just as Peter is not listed first among the apostles as if he was the first called in order (he wasn't), but first in rank.
I wouldn’t say that the “final resurrection” as you put it occurred at AD 70, or in history, but rather in eternity or "the aion to come". I’m assuming by “final resurrection” you are referring to Rev. 20:5 and 20:12f.
Now as for the timing of this re: thousand years mentioned in Rev. 20:5, one interpretation is “when the thousand years are finished” however another valid translation is “when the thousand years were fulfilled”. This latter translation would yield the interpretation that the “final resurrection” comes with the inauguration of the thousand years rather than its termination, and I think that fits the prophetic scheme better. I say this for two reasons.
1) The “thousand years” concept, as outlined in the Enoch material where the concept originates, speaks of the Messianic “thousand years” as an endless period. Similarly, within the canonical Bible, there is no end to the Lord’s Messianic reign. His Kingdom has no end.
2) The prophets said there is a resurrection of the just and the unjust. The faithful Christians, along with those raised with Christ at the Harrowing of Hades, were the first fruits of the resurrection of the just. These received a resurrection of glory etc, and that upon baptism. The remaining "resurrection" was for those who did not believe in Jesus to be raised and judged according to their works and take their place in the lake of fire in the presence of the holy angels and the Lamb -- and this upon death (hence Rev. 20 speaks of this judgment as pertaining to the dead). This is what is being references in Heb. 9:27 and 2 Cor. 5:10.
Remember, Jesus clarifies that those resurrected are like "angels IN HEAVEN". The Biblical resurrection speaks of a spiritual body in heaven. Other records from the early church also teach this (Shepherd of Hermas, Epistle of Barnabas, Clementine Recognitions).
P.prets are so inconsistent
Bottom line: all I see in these comments is division, arguing, and uncertainty. If the Bible no longer applies to humanity and everything is completed then what now? I have no authority to live my life by! I am so done with this topic!
Hi Hamilton. Sorry to hear you are feeling discouraged. You'll find no such conclusions from me. I have only ever found in preterism a strong and profound argument for the authority of Christ over the life of the Church.
@@realSeanMcMahonwhich church? The Temple is destroyed in AD70.
It probably doesn't apply to us : (
Hey Eschatology 101... first let me ask... are you the same guy used to have a room in the cchristian section of Paltalk about 15 years ago?
So when was the "Last Day"? When would the dead in Christ come back to life again? You mean to tell me that sin, evil spirits and evil do not exist now?! If you do, you are being dishonest. When would death be gone? When would Satan and evil spirits be gone? When would sin be no more? The Biblical Eternity looks like this. Revelation 21: 3- "They shall be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. There shall be no more death.’[b] Neither shall there be any more sorrow nor crying nor pain, for the former things have passed away.” I want to see Jesus's face, and all my relatives that died trusting in Jesus. The scripture tells me this time will come. When would this be? Your FULL preterist position does not explain this. It is clear that Jesus' words on Matthew 24 refer to the end of the age that happened in 70 AD. I get that. It is also clear that most of the book of Revelation refers to the same event as in Matthew 24. This is reality. I know you would call it "Partial Preterism", But REALITY tells me that Revelation 20:7 and on HAS NOT BEEN FULFILLED YET. We are now living in the age of the Messiah Jesus which will usher us into what is described in Revelation 21:3. To say that this is all that there is just being out of touch with reality. To say that we are now living in eternity as described in Revelation 21 is just a plain lie. Your eternity is not Biblical. You are preaching an eternity where people are born, where many go without hope and salvation. An eternity where most suffer helplessly, and people sin and die without Christ. An eternity with sin, misery, pain, sorrow, evil and death is a lie from the satanic realm. If you still teach this, you are wrong.
All sin has been forgiven accept for one. Your relation or lack of, with the Holy Spirit is put in play. Your pride is base on that relation. Homosexuality was once a sin not forgiven. Today a person could have an attraction of the same sex. That person could know its wrong and is ashamed of it. That person can still have a relation with the Holy Spirit. Another gay person who likes to to go to gay pride marches and speaks up on gay rights will not have that relationship with the Holy Spirit. Pride leads to a hard heart (a rejection of God). God will not force you to have a relation with him. He will not force you into Heaven.
@@markharris1342 Full preterism is a lie from Satan. Its teachings do not match with reality. If you want to live in denial and in a fantasy world, then go ahead and accept its teachings.
The ones left behind started false Christianity that went against everything Jesus taught. Bloodshed, murdering, forcing people to be Christian or die.... this speaker got part of this right but failed in the ultimate ending
Some preterists believe that the promise of an eternal dominion on earth (as in heaven) is false and therefore teach the 1st century apostasy and that the Church is false etc. Perhaps that is your view. I’ve yet to agree. Thanks for listening
A question.
In Daniel, I read: after 7+62 weeks, "the Messiah shall be cut off." You say that at the end of 69 weeks, Jesus came to the scene at 27 BC. You then say that the Messiah will be cut off in the middle of the 70th week. While Daniel says that the coming prince will put an end to sacrifice in the middle of the 70th week. There's a disconnect between your account and that of Daniel's. Any explanation for this?
Thanks for your question! The coming Prince was Christ. He put an end to sacrifice and offering at the Cross - this is the significance of the torn veil in Mt. 27 and of course the Epistles repeatedly state that there is no forgiveness for sins anywhere (ie the Temple) but in Christ. Heb. 10 is a good summary of this concept and v26 shows explicitly the Temple sacrifices for sins were exhausted because the (old) covenant thereof had been “taken away” (v9)
@@realSeanMcMahon Absolutely! Jesus fulfilled that whole Daniel 9:24-27 prophecy! Christian's today are riding on a false narrative of this which is where this "7 year tribulation" comes from. Worse part of it all, is that they actually give glory to an "antichrist" figure to fulfill this at a future time when in fact Jesus fulfilled this himself. Right on time! God's timing is perfect! If only people would study the Bible along with history instead of relying on narratives and other men's interpretations or following a man behind a pulpit that teaches "feel good" messages to continue filling the "plate".
Wait what??? Um full preterism is a heresy. Full preterism teaches that Jesus has already returned and there is already a resurrection.
Given that you have a different opinion, I appreciate you for listening the whole way thru. Iron sharpens iron
I agree! Quick question though! Where did they go before Jesus died for them? You said they didn’t go to heaven. When’re did they go?
Sheol, the grave - what the Greeks called Hades
@@realSeanMcMahon was it a place like heaven or ?
@@thekidphxntom Couldn't say, never been there! But scripture makes it seem a bit like...nothingness. Sort of what modern people who don't believe in an afterlife say they expect after death.
Today's christianity is not what it was in the 1st century. Christianity today is not biblical.
PRETERISM DESTROYED
"ALL these things" are not fulfilled and therefore Jesus has not returned as the cult of preterism falsely teaches. Take a look:
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away (be renovated), but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." Matthew 24:34-36
So if all these things are NOT yet fulfilled, and they aren't, how could this be speaking of that generation and not a future generation? Impossible. "This generation" could not have possibly been the generation, the people Jesus was speaking to when He spoke these words. We know that because most of these things were not fulfilled.
Did "the abomination of desolation" prophesied by Daniel happen in 70 A.D.? Nope.
"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)" Matthew 24:15
Did Jesus return on the clouds and take up His elect? Nope. Matthew 24:29-31 Were Christ's elect gathered today in 70A.D.? No.
"Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." Matthew 24:29-31
"ALL these things" Jesus is specifically speaking of in this passage/teaching are not fulfilled and thereby we know the preterists a cancerous cult that are misleading many (1 Timothy 1:19-20; 2 Timothy 2:18). They are the Hymaneus' of our day.
If your "Jesus" has already come, He's "another Jesus" and not "the Almighty" who said "he cometh with clouds; and EVERY EYE shall see him." Has NOT transpired. He said that He's coming "in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory ... with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." This is NOT happened.
The fact that these things were not fulfilled in 70A.D. clearly reveals that preterism is heretical - because "ALL these things" did not come to pass in 70A.D. Future fulfillment.
Thanks for listening and for your comment. I am in no position to make authoritative dogmatic statements, and everything on my channel is a record of my studies as I wrestle with the questions which the Spirit puts on my heart. Thank you for sharing yours. May the Spirit guide us into all truth, wisdom, and understanding. Amen!
Why should one care? I do not see any reason to care. Im ok that im going to go where ever i need to go when i die. Jesus might have come and so what if he did? He experienced dealing with his kundalini and meditating during his life and left. He gained occult powers by doing the "great work". I just dont understand the excitement over it.
Blast from the past. I used to study such things as you. Thanks for listening!
Sounds so good. Except for the fact that it contradicts the Messiah’s teaching about the permanence of Torah. Paul does a lot of contradicting of Messiah. That’s because Paul is not the thirteenth Apostle. For many other reasons, because there are only twelve Apostles. That’s also why you had to interpret the 12 foundations incorrectly; to give the false Roman Catholic belief in apostolic succession.
No, there’s only twelve foundations and twelve apostles and the Messiah taught Torah permanence and Paul is not an Apostle (thirteenth or otherwise).
If it’s any consolation, Jeremiah teaches us that animal blood sacrifice was never part of the original and true Torah (it was added by later lying scribes).
Faith in The King cannot also incorporate rebellion against the King’s commands of permanence. You are teaching rebellion to Torah to lead as many astray as possible to suffer your same fate (should you not repent).
I allege one more smiling face lying to the races.
[Roman Catholicism is only mentioned to give full credit to their intellectual property; albeit an argued false doctrine called, “apostolic succession.” All her daughter denominations of anti-Torah Pauline Christianity were equally criticized without favoritism nor prejudice 😊.]
“Believers” in Revelation are defined as those who hold to the testimony of the Messiah and who obey the commandments of Torah. Don’t be deceived: Yahusha is the Jewish Messiah and the Torah is still our rule of law, as the King has explained and taught.
I decided not to do the heavy lift and drop into all those comment
boxes but to keep it for those who are already realizing the importance of the Apostolic faith.
I've got a list of about 20 others who have given heartfelt responses to the Ode to Melchizedek and Glory of the Cross poem.
Some of them are of a High Order of Critical mucky mucks others Atheist and of course the Master Theologians who probably all would sign the list put out against those who stand for and seek the truth.
The latest comments below are not for them, at least not yet, I think it's best to let it cure for a while. But I wanted you to have it to examine and see if it fits in your train of thought and what the Lord is doing in your life.
To tell the truth I edited out the harsh criticism and rank sarcasm which they deserve but would only foster derision and contempt. Let God handle it for now but I think they're signing their own doom.
No since saying something I'll regret.
Part of being in the school of the Apostles (which is a goodly fellowship) is coming to that place where you are able to pray "Father forgive them for they know not what they do"
I'm working on it. How about you?
The poetry came in 2016 by 2018 I was in for repairs and was laid up for a while and had time to study and channel up. It wasn't until 2020 that preterism started showing up in my u tube Q.
I couldn't believe I missed the whole ad 70 thing and I knew nothing about Apocalyptic genres or cloud coming symbols and language.
You have no idea how happy I was!
The greatest thing now is that I've found the right titles for my Poetry; the initial ones just never seem to fit right.
No telling what can happen if we just have patience and wait on the Lord.
Tbh it seems like a stretch.
Do you believe this happened in the first century? Matthew 24:30-31: “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then ALL the peoples of the earth (NOT just Jerusalem) will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, (NOT just Jerusalem) from one end of the heavens to the other." IF this happened in the first century and ALL the peoples of the earth saw the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, I think it would be the most spectacular event in all of history and historical records around the entire world would be rife with reports of dumbfounded people in total shock at the most amazing sight ever! Notice it says ALL the people of the earth and not just those around Jerusalem. Or are you saying All the peoples of the earth is a metaphor for people around Jerusalem. Sorry, this did NOT happen in the first century Jerusalem. How do you make some things metaphors and others literal, like passages in Revelation that say certain events will happen soon, or quickly? Also, the word translated soon in Revelation (these things will soon happen) is according to Strong’s the Greek word “tachei” and it means: quickness, speed; hastily, immediately. So, it can be a reference to a particular event happening at a quick pace once it starts. Also in the Olivet Discourse in Matthew Jesus HIMSELF says, “Immediately after the distress of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light." This is the sign that Joel 2:31 says come right before the Day of the Lord. Peter says "The Day of the Lord comes as a thief, the heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will melt in fervent heat, and the earth and ALL its works will be laid bare." This ABSOLUTELY did not happen in the first century.
@truthequalsfreedom7 I read the Bible, it is the Word of God, NOT the writings of the church fathers.
@truthequalsfreedom7 Are talking the Catholic Church?
@truthequalsfreedom7There are many areas where the Catholic Church goes against or does not agree with the Bible. For instance, the Catholic Catechism in 1129 says, “…the sacraments of the New Covenant are necessary for salvation.” The BIBLE says, in Eph. 2:8, “Salvation is by faith, through grace, NOT WORKS…” Eph. 2:10 then says “we are saved UNTO good works.” The Catechism in 2010 says, “…we can then merit for ourselves graces needed for sanctification…and the attainment of eternal life.” The BIBLE in Romans 11:6 says, “God’s grace-His undeserved kindness in choosing them…it is NOT by their good works.” The Catechism in 846 says, “…the (Catholic) Church is necessary for salvation.” The BIBLE says in Acts 4:12 concerning the name of Jesus, “there is no other name under Heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.” The Catechism says, in 1339 talks of the bread and the wine becoming the body and blood of Jesus. The BIBLE in 1 Peter 2:24 says, “He (JESUS) personally carried our sins in his body on the cross.” The Catechism in 1323 says, “the Savior instituted the Eucharist to perpetuate the sacrifice of the cross through the ages…” The BIBLE in John 13:30 has Jesus saying, “It is finished.” The Catechism in 552, 765, and 880 says, “Peter is the head of the Apostles. The BIBLE in John 13:13 declares Jesus to be the disciples’ Lord and Teacher. The Catechism in 964 intimates that Mary’s union with Christ is inseparable from Christ in the work of salvation; making Mary a co-redeemer with Jesus. The BIBLE has Jesus Himself saying, “I am the way and the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father (Heaven) but through Me.” The catechism in 2677 attributes the role of Mediatrix to Mary, but the BIBLE in 1Timothy 2:5 says, “There is one God and ONE mediator…the man, Christ Jesus.” The Catechism in 841 says, the Catholic Church and the Muslim faith both believe in the same God. However, the Muslim god does NOT have a son, per Islam. By the way, NO WHERE in the Bible does it ever say, that Mary is the mother of God (she was the earthly mother of the human nature of Jesus who was still God from eternity past) nowhere in the BIBLE does it ever say to pray to Mary or the saints, nowhere in the BIBLE does it ever say Mary was or is a PERPETUAL virgin, in fact Matthew 13:35 speaks of her other children, four sons by name and at least two sisters. The Greek words in this passage does NOT allow for cousins, but is properly translated brothers and sisters. Nowhere in the BIBLE does it ever say Mary was immaculately conceived, nor does it ever say that she was sinless or rose bodily into Heaven; these concepts are NOT in the BIBLE! I could go on and on. There are many, many more areas where the Catholic Church has added to scripture doctrines that are not there and, in fact, go totally against the BIBLE.
"This generation"didnt mean the 1st century generation.Its about the generation that sees all the matthew 24 signs,once the Gospel has been preached in all the world and then the end comes. The gospel was not preached in all the world in the first century.
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@@realSeanMcMahon thanks i hope my comment was also very helpful. Looking forwards we are to the return of Christ.
The Holy Spirit is God and dwells in all believers. Satan is the author of confusion. If we disagree on scripture, through prayer we would have unity. Jesus said seek and you shall find. Find what? Confusion, symbolism and uncertainty? How has Jesus left behind the Holy Spirit and greater things will be done? Greater than what? We cannot even read the Word of God without everyone calling into question everything. If there is one Holy Spirit then the truth will be revealed to those who truly believe and live their lives according to the scriptures. The Word of God is not a mystery novel rather an instruction manual for daily living. When I see those with a Doctorate of Theology disagreeing with each other how is this possible? The world looks at the Christian faith as something man made and not to be taken seriously. If there is one God, Son and Holy Spirit then what is wrong here? The author of confusion is the one dividing us. If we ask Jesus for what we need He said He will give it to us. Really? God's reputation is on the line here. If we are praying for the truth of God's Word to be revealed then is that too much to ask? How are these PhD individuals divided. How are any believers divided in their understanding of God's Word? Why is it that the author of confusion has EVERYONE CONFUSED and we can't see it? Is that symbolism too? God's reputation is at stake here. He either said what was written or not. Jesus clearly tells us what satan's plans are and that he can fool even the elect. How does this confusion and divisiveness give glory and honor to God? Are we who believe suppose to focus on the Gospel of Jesus Christ? How can we bring the lost to Jesus if we have absolutely no unity within the body of Christ? Is there a snatching away of believers spoken of in God's Word? Yes! Does it happen before Seal One? During Seal Six? At the last Trumpet? All of this takes away from the Great Commission. The world doesn't take us serious because we are leaning on our own understandings. We have lost our first love and need to focus on Jesus.
I’m sorry you find this Bible study confusing. As you said, “God’s reputation is at stake here” and He made so many unambiguous statements about when the time of the end would occur, especially Christ who said all would be fulfilled before His generation passed away. It is imperative to take Him as His word. Thanks for sharing your comments, surely God’s word is consistent and we can all be a little more humble as we try to understand together.
@@realSeanMcMahon I don't find it confusing at all. The beast was unbelieving Israel and the mark of the beast was the law that they bound on their hands and had on their forheads just as the Jews to this day do with their teffillin . The zealots from whom the man of sin came from preached blasphemy that Jesus was not the Messiah that the law had not been fulfilled and that the temple would not be destroyed. The book of revelation is the key and thanks for the explanation of Daniel
Bill Thompson That's why you have confusion because you focus on Jesus rather than God. Jesus is not even called that any more revelation 3v12
@Visit ScriptureStudydotGuide that is just not what the Bible says that is a man made religious interpretation of the book. Where did Jesus ever prophecy about anything other than the destruction of the temple then standing and unbelieving Israel? The answer is no where . When did those things occur in history ? 70ad. Why does religion ignore the inumerable mentions of those things happening shortly or at hand or coming quickly and instead put them at an innumerable thousands of years in the future? Because only by doing that can religion obtain any power or authority. All any of us have is the book to guide us and it's quite a simple book when you get rid of religious spin.
@Visit ScriptureStudydotGuide the way the word world is used today is pretty much a relatively modern invention . In old English the word world was often used to refer to the affairs of life. The prophecies of the old testament all related to Israel and the coming messiah and nebuchadnezzars were no different. We are not in the part iron part clay period that was a period when the unbelieving Jews and Rome came together to persecute the 1st c church before the final 3 1/2 years of the Roman Jewish war.
This is hermeneutical gymnastics. Sad you will probably delete this
You’re welcome to publish a rebuttal! Thanks for listening, God bless
There is only ONE Gospel: Gospel of Reconciliation.
All other gospels are accursed.
Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom (Lucifer's kingdom) to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself.
We are the fallen angels kept in DNA chains of darkness.
If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever.
Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of God.
You can t be more wrong
Thanks for listening Dwight, could you clarify which part(s) of the study you’d like to correct? Iron sharpens iron.
@workmansong well for beginners you have every thing out of place by 2000 years
@@dwightwoody6732 Could you elaborate?
I do believe by the power of the Holy Spirit the kingdom is within us who believe. There is the 1st resurrection in rev 20 the rest lived not till after the 1,000 yrs. so if that already happened then no one else will ever be resurrected. If you say rev 20 is fulfilled then your saying satan is in the lake of fire being tormented day & night for ever & ever. He isn’t, he is the god of this world today