Elon Musk SUES Sam Altman

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    Episode 560: Shaan Puri ( / shaanvp ) and Sam Parr ( / thesamparr ) break down the lawsuit between Elon Musk and Sam Altman. Are his claims legit or is this a masterclass in marketing/PR?
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    Show Notes:
    (0:00) Intro
    (1:00) Single purpose robots are here
    (4:00) Self-driving lawn mowers
    (10:30) Robot line cooks
    (14:00) Op ex over cap ex
    (19:30) What could go wrong?
    (22:00) Sam Altman's call for Universal Basic Income
    (24:00) Preparing for the AI winter
    (28:00) Robotics-first Chipotle
    (32:30) Sergey Brin's viral Q+A
    (38:30) Elon is suing Sam Altman
    (42:30) Larry Page calls Elon a "speciest"
    (45:00) The Manhattan Project of AI
    (48:30) Rumors around Q-Star
    (51:00) We read Elon's emails
    (58:30) Making sense of the war against OpenAI
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    • Sheep Robotics - sheeprobotics.ai/
    • Kernel - www.kernel.inc/
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 157

  • @DADNation_
    @DADNation_ 3 місяці тому +97

    Whoever thinks a robot never calls in sick has never tried to get ice cream from a McDonald’s

    • @Christina-71
      @Christina-71 3 місяці тому +2

      It's literally the only thing I will buy from McDonald's, but the ice cream machines being down is a real thing! There's even an app you can check first.😂

    • @user-nl2ix1cj1q
      @user-nl2ix1cj1q 3 місяці тому

      hahaha... true

    • @nabilrise1551
      @nabilrise1551 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Christina-71you're one of the six women listening to the pod!!

    • @travismcphee22
      @travismcphee22 3 місяці тому

      😂😂😂

    • @kurtl6126
      @kurtl6126 2 місяці тому +2

      Cuz humans never clean it

  • @leedsdrumacademy
    @leedsdrumacademy 3 місяці тому +35

    "I'm only one google away from saying sorry." 😂

  • @Ke_Mis
    @Ke_Mis 3 місяці тому +22

    I worked for the last 5 years at a Biotech AI company (first as a Data Scientist/Machine Learning Engineer and later as Head of Machine Learning), and I think it will be great both on a lower level, such as curing diseases and creating personalized medicine, and on a higher level for humanity, where there is an unconditional basic income.
    The sun provides enough energy.
    The earth has enough space to house everyone.
    Automation can enable a continuous food supply for everyone.
    From first principles, there is nothing speaking against such a future. There are certain events that can prevent this from happening, but this is still the future I am striving for :)

    • @Ke_Mis
      @Ke_Mis 2 місяці тому

      @@samparr9605 Thanks AI Sam!

    • @MG-kt1ck
      @MG-kt1ck 2 місяці тому

      You're conveniently leaving out cultura and psychological human traits. But nice utopia you have there man.

  • @iggychiang1353
    @iggychiang1353 3 місяці тому +5

    UBI, lol.
    That was Andrew Yang 4 years ago.
    Milton Friedman’s negative income tax 60 years ago.
    EITC. Stimmie checks. All the same.

  • @docnslim
    @docnslim 3 місяці тому +7

    Electric Sheep. Blade Runner was based on a novel “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep”

  • @MindBodyMosiac
    @MindBodyMosiac 3 місяці тому +5

    What an amazing (an equally terrifying) pod! Love the thumbnail too BTW. The burden of proof required to satisfy a civil court is relatively low, in theory, Elon only needs to prove that his version of events are more likely true than not. Even if the standard was raised to clear and convicing, I do not see how the court's decision could leave Elon with anything other than a W. As was pointed out, Elon's original investment into a purpose-driven, non-profit company is now anything and everything but.

  • @Trilluminati713
    @Trilluminati713 2 місяці тому +7

    If Shaan drops a course on the Art of Storytelling, I’d buy it

  • @TheAshley4141
    @TheAshley4141 3 місяці тому +2

    I live in Wisconsin, oh the warehouse workers keep their jobs here for their whole life. They don't change ever. I have lived in 6 states, was not born here, and oh boy do I not fit in. I am 43 and I have been unemployed since July 2023. I have 12 years of Investment Finance experience, including trading, back office, and positions at RIA firms.

    • @LeonNeuton
      @LeonNeuton 2 місяці тому

      Honestly, people hang on to their jobs in these settings because they can't afford to be flippant like people in metropolitan areas where they'll have unlimited options. It's a difference of culture not necessarily a clash of one, merely a contrast of mindsets. Reflecting on the stability of unionized warehouse jobs versus the global nature of investment careers. Location-based roles like warehouse jobs vs market-based ones in that financial jobs.
      Exploring the unique dynamics of jobs rooted in longstanding traditions and secure union practices, where generations pass down their roles. Contrasted with the fluid and location-independent nature of investment jobs, where global markets operate on a synchronized schedule regardless of time zones. The yin-yang balance between preserving legacies in one field and embracing modern flexibility in another offers a fascinating perspective on career paths.

  • @thejamesinator17
    @thejamesinator17 3 місяці тому +2

    Phenomenal episode. You two bounced off each other like champs in this one 👏

  • @devinsimmonz
    @devinsimmonz 3 місяці тому +14

    You guys are both so awesome, thanks so much for all the value you bring.

  • @ergestx
    @ergestx 3 місяці тому

    What are those headphones Sam is wearing?

  • @unPHILteredNBA
    @unPHILteredNBA 3 місяці тому +1

    Jobs these robots will replace are paying funds under what it takes to survive. The real question is how do you put to work, at much higher salaries the majority of the population as you will have the robots and 100k + people. Not saying this as a hippie, but as a Product Manager interested in the human product in work.

  • @nomadprints
    @nomadprints 3 місяці тому +1

    The main learning I took from this episode of The Pod was: 'What is the midwit version of my business and how do I avoid that?'

  • @RichEdwards
    @RichEdwards 3 місяці тому +1

    Most of the pain here comes from the mismatch between the speed of advancement and the (local/global) ability to absorb the advances. If job losses in certain fields take a decade to fully play out, there's a path there. When it's much faster, people feel like they, or actually are, being run over. Look at how quickly NAFTA changed the face of manufacturing in the US in the 90s. The part that generates feat is the very real potential for AI-driven change to be across most/all parts of society and the change to come much much faster.

  • @Evermorecurious
    @Evermorecurious 2 місяці тому

    The key is to always have a human facing front to act as the manager “host”. These one host will need to be paid substantially more than restaurant workers today. But this pay should be justified with the increased efficiency. They will also need to be more technical savvy than your restaurant today. Also restaurants will need to embrace a community mentality where communities meet at this restaurants. This can substantially reduce the headache of people hosting house guest when maybe their house isn’t clean or kids or around when it’s an adult only event. I could see humans actually be able to strategize their dining out experience a lot more than we can now.

  • @ChristopherOkhravi
    @ChristopherOkhravi 3 місяці тому +2

    As if I don’t always listen through the whole thing 😊

  • @jinkiGG
    @jinkiGG 2 місяці тому

    this is easily the best episode in a long time, great storytelling and information. excited to ride through this ai wave with the pod for hopefully many more years.

  • @Irefuse2choose
    @Irefuse2choose 3 місяці тому

    This is about who tells a better story and where we as humanity devote our finite resources.
    Is it going to be towards fast growth or steady but calculated steps towards sustainable growth.
    My best educated guess would be that we will see most things break in the world and chaos for next 20 years but then we will come out as a better species.

  • @secondchildhood
    @secondchildhood 3 місяці тому +1

    I’m not even a techie, but I MUST KNOW 😮

  • @ErickaWilliamsCC
    @ErickaWilliamsCC 2 місяці тому

    alaska oil dividend is like 3k to 5k... its not enough. Trust me as a kid who lived in alaska the costs are crazy

    • @MyFirstMiIIionPod
      @MyFirstMiIIionPod 2 місяці тому

      Ericka put your contact and email on your channel description and let me know once you’ve done that.

  • @Drackomass
    @Drackomass 3 місяці тому +1

    Usually I'm watching or listening to this in the background, the 2nd half of the pod put an end to that.

    • @Drackomass
      @Drackomass 3 місяці тому

      Going to take a nap now.

  • @khareemk3133
    @khareemk3133 3 місяці тому

    Shaan Bodied that Elon story. I knew all the details and I was still hooked. The entire time he was telling it. 🎉

  • @agXYZ99
    @agXYZ99 3 місяці тому

    Awesome Episode!

  • @diegomdelosreyes
    @diegomdelosreyes 3 місяці тому +4

    This upload schedule is on point. This honestly has become one of the podcasts I religiously listen to next to the Tim Ferris show.
    Appreciate you guys for introducing us to so many new entrepreneurs and ideas.

  • @dannyquiroz5777
    @dannyquiroz5777 3 місяці тому +1

    It’s going to be really bad when everyone is as depressed as an aimless founder who just had an exit. Work keeps people honest and occupied.

  • @theTenorDrummer
    @theTenorDrummer 3 місяці тому

    Blendid has a robot that makes smoothies, Apis Cor has one that prints houses

  • @jenniferday8753
    @jenniferday8753 3 місяці тому +1

    I think this is one of those prepare for the worst, hope for the best, it will probably fall in the middle, kind of situations.

  • @jacoblpeterson
    @jacoblpeterson 3 місяці тому +1

    I am definitely trying to get my startup off the ground before the perpetual AI winter too haha

  • @neduoddlem
    @neduoddlem 3 місяці тому

    Interesting pod. Love the Microsoft CEO quote 😂

  • @bofni
    @bofni 2 місяці тому +1

    Robots can simulate thought, but it's all programming. It's the programming that needs to be regulated.

    • @MyFirstMiIIionPod
      @MyFirstMiIIionPod 2 місяці тому

      Paul put your contact and email on your channel description and let me know once you’ve done that.

    • @bofni
      @bofni 2 місяці тому

      Anthony, in case you didn't get this, I put my contact info in my channel description.@@MyFirstMiIIionPod

  • @rodasjateno2565
    @rodasjateno2565 3 місяці тому +1

    That awe-inspiring thing Sam saw, I thought it was Sora.

  • @zeastburg
    @zeastburg 3 місяці тому

    Robot investment play: shotgun/ammo companies (self defense)

  • @_A1Anime
    @_A1Anime 2 місяці тому

    33:50 I think it's called AGI house

  • @mjcherub
    @mjcherub 2 місяці тому +1

    Can you do a breakdown on Sam's response?

  • @eugeniocg3079
    @eugeniocg3079 3 місяці тому +1

    excellent storytelling

  • @bonbon-fj7yh
    @bonbon-fj7yh 2 місяці тому

    In 20-30 years, a lot of these jobs will evaporate due to the proliferation of AI, we will probably see a shift to the creator economy since most knowledge-based jobs could be cheaply replaced by AI. Entertainment and other jobs where you subscribe to a person would probably never be replaced (you enjoy the human aspect). I imagine that people will have to live off the interest of their investments/ or whatever established business they already own.

  • @trevordudeck42
    @trevordudeck42 2 місяці тому

    One of my favorite episodes to date!! Excellent work boys.

    • @MyFirstMiIIionPod
      @MyFirstMiIIionPod 2 місяці тому

      Trevor put your contact and email on your channel description and let me know once you’ve done that.

  • @manuelmao4700
    @manuelmao4700 3 місяці тому

    that thumbnail is 🔥🔥

  • @bangerpickleball
    @bangerpickleball 3 місяці тому

    symbotic $SYM is automating walmart warehouses, as that trickles down to mid sized business there will be no more warehouse workers.

  • @JesseBeahm
    @JesseBeahm 3 місяці тому

    Lawn maintenance is way to small margins

  • @RussianQueenIrina
    @RussianQueenIrina 2 місяці тому

    Now in order to enrol into this UBI from San Francisco county they have to be enrolled into drug treatment, because they also want to solve homelessness/addiction in SF

    • @MyFirstMiIIionPod
      @MyFirstMiIIionPod 2 місяці тому

      Irina put your contact and email on your channel description and let me know once you’ve done that.

  • @EricDavisMusic
    @EricDavisMusic 3 місяці тому +2

    every time sam says “go to THE youtube” his boomer is showing.

  • @pcaz_
    @pcaz_ 3 місяці тому

    Shaan, drop your PO Box address - you need a lint roller my man. I got you 🤣

  • @rathgrams
    @rathgrams 3 місяці тому

    I love this episode. More AI stories please

  • @protonu9496
    @protonu9496 3 місяці тому

    Best Rollercoaster Ride for sure.
    It'll between horrible and middle.

  • @marcuswernersson332
    @marcuswernersson332 2 місяці тому

    I think the Discovery process here would be epic. I don't think Elon cares, but I think Sam and Microsoft will be very interested in not going through discovery and may choose to give Elon a huge settlement out of court.

    • @MyFirstMiIIionPod
      @MyFirstMiIIionPod 2 місяці тому

      Marcus put your contact and email on your channel description and let me know once you’ve done that.

  • @furnessryan9675
    @furnessryan9675 Місяць тому

    Guys, I had the opinion that as an entrepreneur, AI will only provide me opportunity. So it was a little scary to hear you two successful entrepreneurs express this fear. Thanks for the Dharmesh comment!😊

  • @frasermunro6575
    @frasermunro6575 2 місяці тому

    Awesome episode. Regardless of the success of the lawsuit, clearly a major wee guy move from Sam Altman to bail on the original spirit and mission of OpenAI and sell out to Microsoft.

  • @timadler3941
    @timadler3941 2 місяці тому

    I just read that Sam Altman owns 8.7 percent of Reddit, worth 413m at the expected ipo price.

  • @MikeJensenDk
    @MikeJensenDk 3 місяці тому +1

    Guys. Relax.
    This isn't any different than when the steam engine was invented, or other major steps that changed the job market.
    We all have jobs again, and though this might be such a big change that it will take some years to overcome, everything will work out yet again.

    • @MikeJensenDk
      @MikeJensenDk 2 місяці тому

      on twitter?
      I'm not much of a youtube user, for more than the occacional video - so not sure if it's something in here :)@samparr9605

  • @jonathancat
    @jonathancat 3 місяці тому +3

    I find it hilarious that people believe Elon when he says he's going to make humanoid robots, but Tesla still doesn't have FSD

  • @SalesGalvin
    @SalesGalvin 3 місяці тому

    I love me some business but the idea of taking away another human interaction at a restaurant (no matter how small) is another push to a soulless society. Also, greatest pod ever.....Lucky you..... I will subscribe

  • @ImTanzeey
    @ImTanzeey 3 місяці тому

    What an amazing episode fellas ❤

  • @Darknesblaze
    @Darknesblaze 3 місяці тому

    lawn care market is ~50B. They'll do fine

  • @meltingpotonradio
    @meltingpotonradio 3 місяці тому

    This was just fc**king awesome... LOOP activated.

  • @P_Salazar
    @P_Salazar 2 місяці тому

    “What a f**kin pod” 🤣🤣🤣 that’s brilliant! This needs to be the new “that’s the POD”

    • @MyFirstMiIIionPod
      @MyFirstMiIIionPod 2 місяці тому

      Patricio put your contact and email on your channel description and let me know once you’ve done that.

  • @christinesullivan1229
    @christinesullivan1229 2 місяці тому

    Im still getting over the telephone X

  • @whoami1980
    @whoami1980 3 місяці тому

    Shaan’s hair looking Clooney ish

  • @alexhuntermark3514
    @alexhuntermark3514 3 місяці тому

    Wow 2 episodes in a row with rami?

  • @marcuscruz5078
    @marcuscruz5078 3 місяці тому

    15min pod turned into an hour.. interesting

  • @ZubairPenang
    @ZubairPenang Місяць тому

    I want to take a trip to SF but don’t know too many people down there - how can I put myself in these rooms when I’m there (joking but actually kind of serious lol) 😂

  • @nikhilsahay895
    @nikhilsahay895 3 місяці тому

    Chamath is involved in Grok, thats all you need to know about its intent and mission.

    • @mefisto05s.20
      @mefisto05s.20 3 місяці тому +1

      No, he isn't. His is groq, grok is elon's thing

    • @nikhilsahay895
      @nikhilsahay895 3 місяці тому

      @@mefisto05s.20 ahh thanks for correction, that slime Chamath even named it the same.

  • @Brandtoys.
    @Brandtoys. 3 місяці тому

    Tech Storytelling Excellence.

  • @dewolfe001
    @dewolfe001 3 місяці тому

    "plant based, robot driven" -- taking meat out of the product and the production.

  • @MansaKimani
    @MansaKimani 2 місяці тому

    New Sub here, honored the pod request.

    • @MyFirstMiIIionPod
      @MyFirstMiIIionPod 2 місяці тому

      put your phone number and email on your channel description and let me know once you do that.

  • @ExecutiveZombie
    @ExecutiveZombie 3 місяці тому

    Very cool. 😎

  • @dannyquiroz5777
    @dannyquiroz5777 3 місяці тому

    Calling Elon Musk a power player of silicon valley is like calling MrBeast a youtuber in Wichita.

  • @blablablabla542
    @blablablabla542 3 місяці тому

    done.

  • @robertmul
    @robertmul 3 місяці тому

    Great show. Re: ai, it's the beginning of the end as we know it

  • @manoharreddyyaram
    @manoharreddyyaram 2 місяці тому

    I feel it's gonna be somewhere in the middle, as Dharmesh said. Really looking forward to the future...

  • @wilfredpeake9987
    @wilfredpeake9987 2 місяці тому

    I believe ubi should only be implemented for those who vote.

    • @MyFirstMiIIionPod
      @MyFirstMiIIionPod 2 місяці тому

      Wilfred put your contact email on your channel description and let me know once you’ve done that.

  • @Niagara-Cash-FlOw
    @Niagara-Cash-FlOw 3 місяці тому

    This episode has an Apocalyptic connotation(concerning A.I.productivity).

  • @Harpreet06
    @Harpreet06 2 місяці тому +1

    This was a hard episode to watch. Do you really call a dishwasher a robot? So you just mean a machine? So much wrong info in here.

  • @sweetmemoriesmorley
    @sweetmemoriesmorley 2 місяці тому

    This was brilliant guys!!!

    • @MyFirstMiIIionPod
      @MyFirstMiIIionPod 2 місяці тому

      Thanks

    • @MyFirstMiIIionPod
      @MyFirstMiIIionPod 2 місяці тому

      Morley put your contact and email on your channel description and let me know once you’ve done that.

  • @Finnious
    @Finnious 2 місяці тому

    Robots 🤖 now and soon, beautifully done

  • @grahamkennedy7221
    @grahamkennedy7221 2 місяці тому

    36:06 Is it a sign that I make my own HUEL? I call it GHuel.

  • @memyselfid
    @memyselfid 2 місяці тому

    What Darmesh said + stranger

    • @MyFirstMiIIionPod
      @MyFirstMiIIionPod 2 місяці тому

      Gregor put your contact and email on your channel description and let me know once you’ve done that.

  • @fakename5405
    @fakename5405 3 місяці тому

    Alt-mans eyebrows are a major red flag that he's a robot. Artificial Eyebrows is my line in the sand. The Pizza Robots will not win!

  • @kevykev2
    @kevykev2 3 місяці тому +2

    Reimagining aka finding a new way to scam investors

  • @Goodsgameshop
    @Goodsgameshop 3 місяці тому

    Get the tissues!

  • @Websnottaken
    @Websnottaken 3 місяці тому

    Quick question should kids watch this for knowledge?

    • @markdin2988
      @markdin2988 3 місяці тому +1

      If they're not bored watching it, why not?

    • @leedsdrumacademy
      @leedsdrumacademy 3 місяці тому

      ​@@markdin2988and if they're bored, why not? ;)

  • @grahamkennedy7221
    @grahamkennedy7221 2 місяці тому

    Roombaroids 3:29

  • @brisketprofit3205
    @brisketprofit3205 3 місяці тому

    The capex opex arbitrage is something that will be huge in the future. Mfm gold nuggets

  • @wiqd
    @wiqd 2 місяці тому

    The OpenAI drama movie should be made by AI

  • @sutats
    @sutats 3 місяці тому

    Remain in the matrix.

  • @JoshPitts530
    @JoshPitts530 3 місяці тому +10

    If you’re turning over 90% in a warehouse, you’re abusing labor laws and/or not paying enough.

    • @troywissenbach6242
      @troywissenbach6242 3 місяці тому

      Agreed, people don’t leave jobs that fast if they either enjoy it or are being compensated fairly. There are much worse jobs with lower turnover numbers

    • @willbrenton8482
      @willbrenton8482 3 місяці тому

      @@troywissenbach6242like what?

    • @blackhax36
      @blackhax36 3 місяці тому

      That's exactly what it is. Turnover of that amount means he's hiring illegals or paying them minimum wage.

    • @MayorSom
      @MayorSom 3 місяці тому +1

      @@blackhax36 This insane turnover is prevalent in every country. They all treat their warehouse operative like pos. It's not just Warehouse workers, but majority of skilled labours are treated with contempt; despite being the backbone of all these ecommerce. After HGV/Truck drivers, it's the key workers (nurses, electrician, plumbers etc)...

  • @ExecutiveZombie
    @ExecutiveZombie 3 місяці тому

    BOOM! 💥

  • @westunit777
    @westunit777 2 місяці тому

    it will be very baaad! 😅

  • @nikhilsahay895
    @nikhilsahay895 3 місяці тому

    These guys despite being cockroaches are much better than those billionaires on All-in podcast. You can trust these guys to give unbiased opinion.

    • @MayorSom
      @MayorSom 3 місяці тому

      I take every single thing that they say with a pint of salt; MFM & All-In

  • @steveeaston7906
    @steveeaston7906 2 місяці тому

    As a long time listener can I just say how annoying it is when you mention the “gentleman’s agreement” as doing something for you guys to repay the time you take to make the podcast but then increasing plug your other businesses. Is that not payment enough lol

  • @ExecutiveZombie
    @ExecutiveZombie 3 місяці тому

    Im Native American Pocahontas! 🤨🏹🌱 I take that seriously. 🧟‍♀️ No Manhattan Projects. ⚔️ I e never even been to New York! 🗽

  • @ExecutiveZombie
    @ExecutiveZombie 3 місяці тому

    New Balances in the Club. 🤨⚔️🧟‍♀️

  • @michaelslifecycle
    @michaelslifecycle 2 місяці тому

    Y’all are late to the party man. Lawn robots are so 2022

  • @yvonnehyatt8353
    @yvonnehyatt8353 2 місяці тому

    I like dealing with a human, when eating out.😊

  • @Dan-uf2vh
    @Dan-uf2vh 3 місяці тому +3

    Elon Musk looking out for numero uno: HIMSELF. Up until it blows up in his face because of being outrageous.

  • @ExecutiveZombie
    @ExecutiveZombie 3 місяці тому

    😂💀 Welcome to Silicon Valley. 🎬😂

  • @ShivamMishra-mn6cs
    @ShivamMishra-mn6cs 3 місяці тому

    Middle

  • @ExecutiveZombie
    @ExecutiveZombie 3 місяці тому

    Brilliant 🥂🦾 Sir Musk. 🧟‍♀️

  • @NyteLights
    @NyteLights 3 місяці тому

    92 is half of 99 ;)

  • @Curious_Max_
    @Curious_Max_ 2 місяці тому

    🔥