I noticed my toddler had a different concept of time, referring to anything that happened in the past as Yesterday. And anything in the future as Tomorrow. They don't have a concept of money, preschoolers believing that $100 can buy a car. Or a house. Age is another thing, my 4 yr old broke an arm while playing with an older child of 10-11. On the way to the ER, I asked my child if they thought the other child was the same age, a teenager, or an adult. They thought they were a teenager. I think to a 4 year old a teenager might seem like really close to being an adult, and since they trust adults, they may trust a teen. Even though they can be the worst.
I love whenever the kid says something nuts the eerie piano music chimes in!!! Like when the kid said mom would think it was Katie that took the muffins! Creepy- like from a Twilight Zone episode!
Iam thinking that children may be being judged like mean and liers while they are not ,at the early ages...due to this type of functioning They may respond differently. So don't judge kids by coming to a faster conclusion Understand, nourish and guide them with love...❤️
it’s not that one child decided to deceive the monkey and the other one didn’t, it’s that one has the developmental capacity to comprehend it and the other one hasn’t developed that connection or part of the brain! It’s elementary childhood development experiments!
Actually, children also have periods when they are extremely mean and another when they always lie. And adults need to handle this, including explanation of morals and light punishment.
@@yumnah I think he/her point is, a lot of grown ups dont understand development of children. They often judge them by their own understanding of world
But that's it, the child has to understand what colors are to be able to play the game. The real challenge is either they can or can not follow such a basic rule of two completely different games. Which they can't because they're still not able to absorve new rules when one is settled, a common thing to three years old that are in the pre operational stage of cognitive development.
the problem here is the problem of "expectation." the child just may be giving the answer they think the adult wants to hear. it might be more of an experiment on response to authority than anything else. in the "experiment" with the monkey, the child is being told to lie. and that their lie will get them what they want. that ain't good.
I literally thought about this, although my perspective was slightly different. I thought it was a linguistics problem. For John and Katie, when he asked "Will mom think it's Katie or John" I have a feeling if he started with the name "John" the kid would have said John. It is likely about expectations as you say.
@@seriousbeing7328...the problem is, its not just kids who do this. adults often say and think as they believe their "political leaders" want them. i call it the "jumping-on-bandwagons" syndrome. more and more these days people on the left and right, BOTH, tend to be willing to throw reality out the window so as to not hurt people's feelings. there's no self reflection, self discipline or self restraint. just ANYTHING GOES and the word "no" is now called "hate speech." from what i can see humanty's gone bonkers. fraud, willful ignorance, rejection of facts and denial of reality to advance any absurd political agenda is now perfectly acceptable behavior.
I don’t see the connection of the first test with ToM. What is the logic when they represented the first test? And there’re any explanations why the two Childs stick to the first rule they get? And what is the different between a child who can quickly adapt to the new rule and the child who don’t? Cought anyone explain?
The first test is about inhibition - mentally setting aside the previous rule to focus on the new one And the kids who adapt have developed more mental flexibility
It's so odd as a developed individual to see these children not make these connections. It's like they have two separate brains that can't communicate with each other. I wonder if this is similar to adults whose corpus callosum is severed.
"What did you think was in the box before I showed you there were ropes" doesn't necessarily mean what they are concluding. It could be that their auditory processing isn't developed enough to follow what is being said, or they don't understand differences in the words did and do or before and now. In the monkey experiment, the psychologist assumes that the child understands that they are speaking through the monkey.
it's not like a "job", you have to be a scientific researcher, perhaps a professor, scientist or university student to conduct these sort of experiments and you'd need to do the research as well, not only conduct these "experiments" (which really aren't experiments actually)
She is a lifespan development psychologist. Get an undergraduate degree in psychology and then graduate work (including a PhD + post-doctorate work). It takes about ten years to do the schooling and training. Then, you find an academic or private institution to be able to conduct experiments like this.
That's a good observation. There's research going back > 30 years showing theory of mind ability in children younger than 4-years-old when using tasks that involve deception. Chandler, M., Fritz, A. S., & Hala, S. (1989). Small-scale deceit: Deception as a marker of two-, three-, and four-year-olds' early theories of mind. Child development, 1263-1277.
The tests here aren't saying that there is a hard coded rule for when Theory of Mind begins to emerge, just that it tends to occur after the age of 3. In the case of the Sally-Anne Test, there have been instances where 2 year olds passed the test, and there have been cases where 4 year olds failed it. There is going to be a lot of variance.
no no no Back in June 2021 when Biden said the tally bawnd would NEVER take over Afghanistan, and Kabul, now he denies he ever said that because his dementia is soo bad it's like he's ONE years old now. dis many 1
Little girl hair sniffin bunch of Malarkey Biden is NOT MY President !! oh snap IMPEACH HAIR SNIFFER NOW, The blood of 10,000 Afghans that are being beheaded by the Tallybawn are on his head. Thousands of children that are being kept in cages at the border RIGHT NOW are on his head. He's a monster for saying the border was open so Coyotes are now charging people 8,000 dollar fees, and doing horrible things to all the people trying to get here. Monster !!
To be fair, all this shows is that Trump is not more developed than the average three year old. Many three year olds, and perhaps even many two year olds, are smarter than Trump.
Ill cash app you 100 bucks if you can show me one clip of Trump saying something racist or homophobic. Also, how are you feeling about the job Grandpa Biden has been doing the past 2 years 🤣🤣🤣
Not sure why they want to frame a kid's mindset as "spooky" or "starting" . A 3 year old's mindset is neither. It simply is what it is. What is spooky and startling however is that producers of shows think they need to frame everything in weird emotional terms. Do adults need that to pay attention to something?
What if thoughts in your head being public knowledge is a skill, which children lose as they grow older. Wouldn't that explain, why some mother's are so in tune with their pre-verbal children? This is as much an explanation of the results of the experiment as the one given by the experimenter. What if some people never lose that skill, but have to suppress it in order to live in the world. Let's face it, people who did have this ability would be stigmatised and labelled as crazy. I dislike the fact, that the experimenters believe it is a good and essential development, that children can learn to lie and cheat others. If all people could do this, then we would have much less crime in the world. Humans could also develop a universal sensory system, and stop physically hurting others because they would immediately feel the pain themselves.
9:51 the wordplay from "I had my fingers crossed" into "Patrick has also crossed a threshold..." is kinda nice
i have no idea why im watching this but they are addicting to watch
same
Agree
I noticed my toddler had a different concept of time, referring to anything that happened in the past as Yesterday. And anything in the future as Tomorrow.
They don't have a concept of money, preschoolers believing that $100 can buy a car. Or a house.
Age is another thing, my 4 yr old broke an arm while playing with an older child of 10-11. On the way to the ER, I asked my child if they thought the other child was the same age, a teenager, or an adult. They thought they were a teenager. I think to a 4 year old a teenager might seem like really close to being an adult, and since they trust adults, they may trust a teen. Even though they can be the worst.
XDDDDD exactly! Me too
I like Alan Aldas voice 😁👍
I love whenever the kid says something nuts the eerie piano music chimes in!!! Like when the kid said mom would think it was Katie that took the muffins! Creepy- like from a Twilight Zone episode!
YEAAA😂😂😂 it’s so funny
Yeah I didn't like that at all. It doesn't help that I'm lying in bed watching this with the lights off at 2am. 😂😂
the ominous music cracks me up
Getting kids to ignore the camera man is the biggest achievement here.
it took me until the eighth grade before I learned--consciously--that people wouldn't know I lied if I lied. Major game changer in my life
Same here. My teachers at Harvard are the best!
perfect for my developmental psychology test!
Did you pass?
Iam thinking that children may be being judged like mean and liers while they are not ,at the early ages...due to this type of functioning
They may respond differently.
So don't judge kids by coming to a faster conclusion
Understand, nourish and guide them with love...❤️
there is no judging, this is just how the mind changes and develops
it’s not that one child decided to deceive the monkey and the other one didn’t, it’s that one has the developmental capacity to comprehend it and the other one hasn’t developed that connection or part of the brain! It’s elementary childhood development experiments!
Actually, children also have periods when they are extremely mean and another when they always lie. And adults need to handle this, including explanation of morals and light punishment.
@@yumnah I think he/her point is, a lot of grown ups dont understand development of children. They often judge them by their own understanding of world
Amazing, studies!! Enjoyed it!!
He somewhat emphasized red when asking the girl where the red boat goes, idk I feel that somewhat strays her that way
But that's it, the child has to understand what colors are to be able to play the game. The real challenge is either they can or can not follow such a basic rule of two completely different games. Which they can't because they're still not able to absorve new rules when one is settled, a common thing to three years old that are in the pre operational stage of cognitive development.
These kind of games if played frequently, will help increase kids ability to put attention throughly
That's actually really eery
They are always present and unconditioned.
watching sentience in action, is amazing
the problem here is the problem of "expectation." the child just may be giving the answer they think the adult wants to hear. it might be more of an experiment on response to authority than anything else.
in the "experiment" with the monkey, the child is being told to lie. and that their lie will get them what they want. that ain't good.
…what?
@@ravenID429... not what. but who, when, where and why. but never what.
I literally thought about this, although my perspective was slightly different. I thought it was a linguistics problem. For John and Katie, when he asked "Will mom think it's Katie or John" I have a feeling if he started with the name "John" the kid would have said John.
It is likely about expectations as you say.
@@seriousbeing7328...the problem is, its not just kids who do this. adults often say and think as they believe their "political leaders" want them. i call it the "jumping-on-bandwagons" syndrome. more and more these days people on the left and right, BOTH, tend to be willing to throw reality out the window so as to not hurt people's feelings.
there's no self reflection, self discipline or self restraint. just ANYTHING GOES and the word "no" is now called "hate speech." from what i can see humanty's gone bonkers. fraud, willful ignorance, rejection of facts and denial of reality to advance any absurd political agenda is now perfectly acceptable behavior.
@@cjmacq-vg8um Do you need help
9:22 PATRICK HAD HIS FINGERS CROSSED
7:35
I suspect the boy is deceiving the psychologist ... he wants the angle sticker in the first place xD
The plot twist 😮
Thsi is why in the first few years they get shaped for life
7:52 Plot twist: That kind acutally saw through everything from the start and fooled the lady all along :D
This is very reminiscent of Stroop tests, could this be a modified Stroop test? I'm referring to the boats and rabbits :)
This is really fascinating...
Is that Alan Alda narrating?
yes I just googled it
@@monkeytul kewl
Patrick the Player^^
This just shows that a child is incapable of showing evil tendencies
I don’t see the connection of the first test with ToM. What is the logic when they represented the first test? And there’re any explanations why the two Childs stick to the first rule they get? And what is the different between a child who can quickly adapt to the new rule and the child who don’t? Cought anyone explain?
The first test is about inhibition - mentally setting aside the previous rule to focus on the new one
And the kids who adapt have developed more mental flexibility
It's so odd as a developed individual to see these children not make these connections. It's like they have two separate brains that can't communicate with each other. I wonder if this is similar to adults whose corpus callosum is severed.
Is Alan Alda the narrator?
6:24
CUTEST THING EVER
"What did you think was in the box before I showed you there were ropes" doesn't necessarily mean what they are concluding. It could be that their auditory processing isn't developed enough to follow what is being said, or they don't understand differences in the words did and do or before and now. In the monkey experiment, the psychologist assumes that the child understands that they are speaking through the monkey.
The youngest kids don't realise adults can be deceptive. But by 4 1/2 they've worked it out! Those rotten adults, well I'll fool them!
Is the voiceover Alan Alda?
This is also a peek into how the minds of adult Republicans work.
How tf does the two party system cause your mind to contrive this random comparison 💀 are you really so smooth brained?
This is also a peek into how the minds of adult * insert people I hate * work.
You had to go and bring politics here huh?
Is the narrator Alan Alda?
Hello Peter, what's happening? I'm gonna need you to go ahead and come in tomorrow. So if you could be here around 9, that would be great. mmm kay?
Knowledge is pure and can only be learned
Stuff that's learned can only be learned?
If I want to work as the lady in a black sweatshirt what is the name of the job like to to experiment with kids and how they think
it's not like a "job", you have to be a scientific researcher, perhaps a professor, scientist or university student to conduct these sort of experiments and you'd need to do the research as well, not only conduct these "experiments" (which really aren't experiments actually)
She is a lifespan development psychologist. Get an undergraduate degree in psychology and then graduate work (including a PhD + post-doctorate work). It takes about ten years to do the schooling and training. Then, you find an academic or private institution to be able to conduct experiments like this.
Is this narrated by Andrew Robinson?
I apologize that you wasted your time reading this.
?
Thank you
I accept your apology, and also apologize for further wasting the time of anyone who also reads this comment.
Is that Christian Bale narrating!?
Thought it was Alan Alda
Yes it's Alan Alda...someone said why is Howard Stern narrating 🤣🤣🤣
I'm sorry, but that boat is not blue. It's very much black.
i know plenty of 2 years old who can deceive
That's a good observation. There's research going back > 30 years showing theory of mind ability in children younger than 4-years-old when using tasks that involve deception.
Chandler, M., Fritz, A. S., & Hala, S. (1989). Small-scale deceit: Deception as a marker of two-, three-, and four-year-olds' early theories of mind. Child development, 1263-1277.
The tests here aren't saying that there is a hard coded rule for when Theory of Mind begins to emerge, just that it tends to occur after the age of 3. In the case of the Sally-Anne Test, there have been instances where 2 year olds passed the test, and there have been cases where 4 year olds failed it. There is going to be a lot of variance.
So everytime trump said 'I didn't say that' its just because he has a three year old mind
no no no Back in June 2021 when Biden said the tally bawnd would NEVER take over Afghanistan, and Kabul, now he denies he ever said that because his dementia is soo bad it's like he's ONE years old now. dis many 1
Little girl hair sniffin bunch of Malarkey Biden is NOT MY President !! oh snap
IMPEACH HAIR SNIFFER NOW, The blood of 10,000 Afghans that are being beheaded by the Tallybawn are on his head. Thousands of children that are being kept in cages at the border RIGHT NOW are on his head. He's a monster for saying the border was open so Coyotes are now charging people 8,000 dollar fees, and doing horrible things to all the people trying to get here. Monster !!
To be fair, all this shows is that Trump is not more developed than the average three year old. Many three year olds, and perhaps even many two year olds, are smarter than Trump.
Ill cash app you 100 bucks if you can show me one clip of Trump saying something racist or homophobic. Also, how are you feeling about the job Grandpa Biden has been doing the past 2 years 🤣🤣🤣
@@mackinblackI totally agree. On a side note...I'd rather see Trump talk to little kids then creepy Biden 😁😁
Why is this being narrated by Howard Stern?
It's Alan Alda...from MASH
@@lisalee2885 aha thanks
howard stern's narration really threw me off
I think it's Alan Alda, but Howard Stern is a good guess. In fact, Howard and Alan sound strangely similar
@@kathmandoozle I thought Alan Alda as well.
"the 3 year old mind doesnt know what it knows" This is the explanation? Seriously??
3? He looks 5.
He had a tough life
Not sure why they want to frame a kid's mindset as "spooky" or "starting" . A 3 year old's mindset is neither. It simply is what it is. What is spooky and startling however is that producers of shows think they need to frame everything in weird emotional terms. Do adults need that to pay attention to something?
What if thoughts in your head being public knowledge is a skill, which children lose as they grow older. Wouldn't that explain, why some mother's are so in tune with their pre-verbal children? This is as much an explanation of the results of the experiment as the one given by the experimenter. What if some people never lose that skill, but have to suppress it in order to live in the world. Let's face it, people who did have this ability would be stigmatised and labelled as crazy. I dislike the fact, that the experimenters believe it is a good and essential development, that children can learn to lie and cheat others. If all people could do this, then we would have much less crime in the world. Humans could also develop a universal sensory system, and stop physically hurting others because they would immediately feel the pain themselves.
That's a cool what if and that's all it is.
Psychiatrists label those who, as you put it, have this "skill" past early childhood as autistic.
Foolish.
Why don't you bring another person who will play monkey rather than the same person asking for liking and disliking.