4 - Spare Shooting

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  • Опубліковано 5 кві 2014

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  • @LarryManiccia
    @LarryManiccia 2 роки тому +4

    This video does a much better job of getting into the details of what arrow to aim for after you move your feet than some off the others I've watched. Other videos tell you where to move your feet, but did a terrible job telling you how to adjust what arrow you would then aim for. Thanks for this detailed explanation!

  • @bluestraveler50
    @bluestraveler50 8 років тому +15

    This was the most helpful video I've ever watched. Thank you. I always wanted to know a method in spare shooting and I have been playing for years and have missed a lot more spares than I should have. This will help a lot

  • @subibowler
    @subibowler 9 років тому +11

    This spare system is a starting point. As another person said, experiment to see what really works for you as a bowler. The issue that I have though with this video is they do NOT talk about throwing the ball straight at these spares and where you would adjust to, to do that. For both right and left handed players, if they hook their ball at spares I am suggesting a plastic ball for the 6/10 for a right hander and the 4/7 for the left hander, the other spares you need to adjust accordingly to where the friction is on the lane. For people like myself who can throw a ball pretty straight despite it being a reactive ball, we have the choice to pick either a plastic, urethane or one of the regular reactive balls for our spares.

  • @emanueladavis1885
    @emanueladavis1885 6 років тому +3

    Finally a video that actually shows you everything you need to spare....been looking for two weeks for something like this....awesome, thank you so much.

  • @dj_demolishaa6829
    @dj_demolishaa6829 8 років тому +4

    To simplify, I was taught this too, and I call it the 369, and it deserves the name. You make a first ball shot, but for a righty you get the 3 and lefty the two. What you do is move 3 boards in the opposite direction of your bowling hand, so move left for right handed bowlers and vice versa. The thing about this method is that there are 4 rows of pins so the memorization is pretty easy. If you have the headpin or it plus a row behind it, keep your first ball mark and position. If you get the 2nd row (2-3), move 3 boards in the opposite direction of your bowling hand. If you get the 3rd row (4-6), move 6 boards and aim at the pin, adjusting for hook if you can't throw it straight. If you get the 7-10 row, move 9 boards and aim at the pin and adjust for hook. But, if you get a corner pin (7/10), it is HIGHLY recommended to throw it straight. If you can't, get a plastic ball because it makes the corners SO much easier.

  • @llwat1057
    @llwat1057 2 роки тому +2

    You made this extremely clear. Thanks

  • @danielvickery
    @danielvickery Рік тому +2

    When I was coaching high school level in the 1990's I used the 3-6-9 system and it worked well. I also used the arrows as my sight finders. Now that I am older I use the dots which are much closer [my eyesight isn't as good as it once was]. Unfortunately this system does NOT work as well with the dots [3-5-8-11-14 boards] as they are too close to the bowler and the angles do NOT work out the same way. Also, as I have gotten older I use a more reactive ball to pick up my left side spares [I am RH and use my strike ball to do so] BUT change to a less reactive plastic ball for right side spares to reduce hook except for double wood 3-9 spare. Thus parts of this system will work for you and parts won't. The length of the oil pattern and how the oil is pushed down and 'soaked' up by the reactive balls will play a great deal with spares as well... causing spares misses by 1/4 inch which happen often. Notice the date of the video is 2014... much of this will get you in the 'ballpark' BUT with new oil patterns and ball technology this will not be able to be taken as gospel... you will need to tweak to fit your own needs.

  • @skfboiler
    @skfboiler 8 років тому +1

    I have to say, the other day I tried this system of picking up spares and dog gone it works. The only time I did not pick up a spare is when I did not aim correctly and missed the target. Aiming is another aspect in bowling I need to work on.

  • @hardhead5834
    @hardhead5834 6 років тому +1

    I use the same ball to strike and spare. This video is very helpful. Thanks

  • @garybell8911
    @garybell8911 2 роки тому +1

    Most helpful video very good tips I will have to work on !!

  • @stevekeller3643
    @stevekeller3643 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you- I really needed that as my spare game has really deteriorated.
    Question- what if, for your strike ball, you spot off the range finders ?

  • @donreinholz8121
    @donreinholz8121 2 роки тому +1

    This is good info for different players on the approach.

  • @danambrus5298
    @danambrus5298 3 роки тому +1

    Two questions. 1. Would I use my plactic ball for all the right side spares?
    2. As the lanes break down and my strike zone changes, will my new spare shots reset from the new strike zone?
    Thank you

  • @khairunnisaazri4359
    @khairunnisaazri4359 7 років тому +2

    this is helpful! thanks for this video!

  • @Accumulator1
    @Accumulator1 7 років тому +1

    If using a 15-16 lb ball for first shot, would it be better to use a ball of less weight if using another with less hook? How much less?

  • @javierhdez660
    @javierhdez660 8 років тому +4

    it's a great video. I can show to my youth league. it makes me a better coach. go Fresno bulldogs

  • @jasonlovi8745
    @jasonlovi8745 3 роки тому +1

    Does the approach stay the same or is it angled towards the arrow?

  • @rr2418
    @rr2418 2 роки тому +1

    What most instructional videos never say is whether or not you suppose to walk straight up the boards when shooting at the 10 pin. In other words, if your left foot is on board 39 at the start, are you suppose to end up on board 39 at the foul line?

  • @Raphaelo325
    @Raphaelo325 14 днів тому

    Great video! Lots of good ideas!
    Is it the camara angle or does Brian shift a little left during his approach/ steps, and not walk straight from his starting position?

  • @michaelgallucci4085
    @michaelgallucci4085 2 роки тому +1

    This was a good video and explanation. What would have made it perfect was you to show the southpaw view. The use of two bowlers -one right handed and one left handed- would have made this excellent

  • @ns671fr
    @ns671fr 7 місяців тому +1

    It all depends on your roll and lane conditions or what ball youre using. These are good fundamentals but wont always work for every bowler.

    • @peteg475
      @peteg475 6 місяців тому

      Works pretty well on House oil in League. I agree for other patterns or more difficult conditions, different adjustments will be necessary.

    • @ns671fr
      @ns671fr 6 місяців тому

      @@peteg475 I always go with read the oil conditions and bowl accordingly.

    • @peteg475
      @peteg475 6 місяців тому

      @@ns671fr Yeah, fair enough. My league is pretty consistent with how my shot reacts to the oil, and this system works very well for me with only minor tweaks. I still will shoot straight at the 10.

    • @ns671fr
      @ns671fr 6 місяців тому

      @@peteg475 nice our alleys follow pba conditions which makes it tough I have never seen house oil on all my leagues thus season.

  • @CraftyVegetarian13
    @CraftyVegetarian13 8 років тому +22

    Alrighty, just wanted to get this straight:
    To pickup pins to the left (2-4-7) move 3 boards to the right from each respective pin (2 pin=3 boards, 4 pin= 6 boards, 7 pin= 9 boards) and target board changes only half an arrow to the left of target board (~2.5 boards).
    To pickup pins to the right (3-6-10) move 4 boards to the left from each respective pin (3 pin= 4 boards, 6 pin = 8 boards, 10 pin = 12 boards) and target changes half an arrow to the left from each respective pin (3 pin = half arrow, 6 pin = full arrow, 10 pin = one and half arrows).

    • @markivanov2593
      @markivanov2593 6 років тому

      Best explanation!

    • @oliviajae298
      @oliviajae298 5 років тому +1

      I'm not going to be able to remember this, but thank you for writing it out. I will screenshot it and refer to it. Thanks!!

    • @hugomora2203
      @hugomora2203 3 роки тому

      You must be a lefty !!! Or you did not understand the Spare System :)

    • @CraftyVegetarian13
      @CraftyVegetarian13 3 роки тому

      @@hugomora2203 Had to check this video out again after so long after re-joining league. But I think I got it right (I’m right handed) and it works perfect for me :)

  • @toho28
    @toho28 4 роки тому +2

    On the 7 pin spare, I notice that Brian's feet appear to drift left several boards from starting position. Doesn't that change the equation?

  • @jrmunroe4024
    @jrmunroe4024 5 років тому +1

    this is great!!!

  • @DouglasGardnerTV
    @DouglasGardnerTV 8 років тому +25

    Showing new bowlers how to pick up corner pins by hooking it? Why? You get on a short pattern and you try to do that, you'll miss every time. Just throw it straight at corner pins, no error possible if you're throwing straight at it

    • @deshawnferguson1
      @deshawnferguson1 7 років тому +3

      most coaches actually hate people that hook while shooting spares

    • @virginiamartin3900
      @virginiamartin3900 7 років тому +1

      Douglas Gardner

    • @virginiamartin3900
      @virginiamartin3900 7 років тому

      Douglas Gardner

    • @steveniemyer9288
      @steveniemyer9288 7 років тому +1

      You still have to line your feet up and hit the arrow even if you throw straight. Also you want your release to be the same every time-hence the reason they mention the benefits of a spare ball for the 10 pin, because it doesn't hook as much and you can keep your release the same.

    • @johnbanfield6900
      @johnbanfield6900 7 років тому +2

      I was thinking the same thing. You have to know how to use the spare ball if you play sport patterns.

  • @tleav61
    @tleav61 5 років тому +1

    Gee whiz, a lot of stuff to remember, and a heck of a lot of science to remember.

  • @JAHISRAEL
    @JAHISRAEL 7 років тому +1

    I made a 7 - 10 split when I was 13 years old and still have that bowling ball (I will be 59 this month) and making spares seemed to be easy.......should have stuck to bowling......now all the ally's are gone where I live and I even own a pin-set part of a lane that is now gone.

  • @kvdgadj
    @kvdgadj 2 роки тому +1

    Can you do this with a straight ball? What happen if there only five dots.

  • @derekt8731
    @derekt8731 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for sharing this video, it totally helped with my spare pick ups.

  • @toddscott4881
    @toddscott4881 Рік тому +1

    So is it just opposite if your left handed?

  • @joemattox1412
    @joemattox1412 Рік тому

    You should show more lefthanded bowler tips

  • @RayFergII
    @RayFergII 9 місяців тому

    Is it necessary to slide? Because I am unable to make the slide happen in my approach.

  • @almerc1
    @almerc1 4 місяці тому

    Will this same system work if I use the dots instead of the arrows?

  • @nathandelapaz
    @nathandelapaz 6 років тому +1

    When you use this 3-6-9 system, shall I use the plastic spare ball or my strike ball?

    • @jayvallandingham2406
      @jayvallandingham2406 6 років тому +1

      If you have sleeper pins is best to use a hook ball everything else use plastic:-)

  • @luap2353
    @luap2353 Рік тому

    They should call it the 3-6-9-move-your-eyes-a-half-arrow-left--regardless-of-zone-unless-it-is-zone-5-6-7-in-which-case-you-move 4-8-12-and-your-eyes-a-half-arrow-left-for-each-zone system.

  • @jamesmoglia1258
    @jamesmoglia1258 Рік тому

    Can you show me this 1to 7 technique left handed it hard to figure it out. I am left handed,not right handed. I would appreciate it. Thank you.

  • @keithwilcox5862
    @keithwilcox5862 6 місяців тому

    U guys help me pick up the 6 7 spite lest night cause i i bowl on a League on Sunday nights and it was my frist time picking it up cause i before it would only would over curve or under curve the shot thank u guys

  • @JAHISRAEL
    @JAHISRAEL 7 років тому +1

    BTW how about rolling the ball in a straight line on the spares instead of hoping it curves into those pins?

    • @cheddarbob7095
      @cheddarbob7095 7 років тому

      Nikola Tesla because those balls hook by themselves and they don't go straight

    • @CurtisL8.3066
      @CurtisL8.3066 5 років тому

      Unless you’re on a pattern that has 50 ft of oil or has 30ft of oil. Then you need plastic to make those moves

  • @pgaloom
    @pgaloom 8 років тому +5

    May be a good idea to note how far these bowlers drift...some are substantial. If a bowler does not drift at all, this method is not very efficient.

  • @dannyayers6561
    @dannyayers6561 9 років тому +3

    I've wondered who created these spare systems?

    • @MTSpade
      @MTSpade 8 років тому +1

      +Danny Ayers Professionals who know bowling maybe?

    • @AltCTRLF8
      @AltCTRLF8 7 років тому +6

      ancient aliens

  • @matthewruch6428
    @matthewruch6428 9 років тому +8

    Why don't they explain this technique for left handed bowlers?

    • @Falkjar
      @Falkjar 8 років тому +6

      +Matthew Ruch It should just be the opposite, so instead of 4 left and 3 right, it would be 4 right and 3 left

  • @hobbymaster28
    @hobbymaster28 8 років тому +5

    Easy... Angle your feet so that they face the pin/area you are trying to aim fore and just throw your spare ball without even thinking

  • @axleycollier1275
    @axleycollier1275 2 роки тому

    Why does this only shows right handed bowlers?

  • @high2idie716
    @high2idie716 7 років тому +1

    what do I do when I have a good game on dry lanes and do bad when the lanes have oil on them??

    • @ginafielding5494
      @ginafielding5494 7 років тому

      Eric Duncan story of my life!

    • @CurtisL8.3066
      @CurtisL8.3066 5 років тому

      Get you a ball that reads earlier and throw the same shot

    • @LarryManiccia
      @LarryManiccia 2 роки тому

      @@CurtisL8.3066 Better yet buy some sanding pads and put on a 500 or 1000 grit finish on the same ball to get it to hook earlier instead of forking out the cash for a second ball. Adjust the ball surface during practice to match the line you want to throw. That way you can keep a similar line regardless of oil pattern.

    • @CurtisL8.3066
      @CurtisL8.3066 2 роки тому

      @@LarryManiccia so ruin the laneshine on the ball you do well on dry with? Why not just get a ball designed to hook in oil?

    • @CurtisL8.3066
      @CurtisL8.3066 2 роки тому

      @@LarryManiccia and I know abralon pads and adjusting surface is essential but if he’s throwing a hyroad with polish, it’s not gonna turn into a hook monster if you put 500 on it. It will help, but the ball will still be clean and react to downlane friction like it is designed to do, it’s just gonna do it 2 feet sooner

  • @eddiebb52
    @eddiebb52 5 років тому +2

    DO THEY HAVE A LEFT HANDED VERSION OF THIS VIDEO ????

    • @jpg7616
      @jpg7616 5 років тому

      eddiebb52 ... DO YOU NEED ONE????
      Just reverse the order of the zones... not that hard.
      I.e. for each zone, move 3 boards LEFT to shoot at the 3/6/10 and go 4 boards RIGHT to shoot the 2/4/7 side. Etc.

  • @weadley
    @weadley 9 років тому +1

    the are using reactive balls that hook and not spare balls?

    • @weadley
      @weadley 9 років тому +4

      Ok I got to the part where they recommend spare balls if you feel its hooking too much.

    • @subibowler
      @subibowler 9 років тому +1

      Charles Waldrop
      If you feel like you can throw the ball straight enough even though it is with your reactive ball, then you might not need a plastic ball for your spares. I personally think by throwing the ball straight at the 4/7 for a left hander and the 6/10 for a right hander, it takes the lane out of play where the friction is. Just something to think about if you haven't.

  • @TraumaER
    @TraumaER 7 років тому +1

    My method: Get plastic spare ball and throw a straight ball at the pin. THE END.

  • @keymondrobinson331
    @keymondrobinson331 5 років тому +1

    BBQ spare ribs

  • @angrywally4087
    @angrywally4087 4 роки тому

    spares are hard for me

  • @dmwash85ify
    @dmwash85ify 5 років тому +1

    😆😆 😆 what is up with the bedroom music at 14:50 😆

  • @lizard330033
    @lizard330033 7 років тому +4

    That music at 14:53 😩😩 whyy

  • @fiddlefaddle1
    @fiddlefaddle1 7 років тому +6

    Just look up the 3-6-9 right and 4-8-12 left system. It's a hell of a lot easier to remember than this.

    • @weadley
      @weadley 7 років тому +4

      I believe once they get into it this is a video about the 3-6-9 and 4-8-12 system.

    • @YoungcheolLEE
      @YoungcheolLEE 7 років тому +1

      Charles Waldrop ㄹ

  • @markofthenorth9512
    @markofthenorth9512 8 років тому +7

    There's way too much to remember with this system. I have NEVER encountered a bowler who uses this system. Ever.

    • @brianrjones5405
      @brianrjones5405 7 років тому +8

      Nice to meet you

    • @crio2366
      @crio2366 7 років тому +5

      Hi how are ya! been using this system for over 30 yrs. Learned it from Fred Borden!

  • @clutchitup8565
    @clutchitup8565 5 місяців тому

    Music is hurendouus

  • @queparkerqp
    @queparkerqp 8 років тому

    What about for left handed people? What are the movements for them? And please don't say just reverse everything. It would be nice to also have an visual.

    • @luhrenzo
      @luhrenzo 8 років тому +3

      +Que Parker Well, it literally is the reverse of this. They can't really make another video specifically on left handed bowlers as they don't have any. Just continue to practice!

  • @RamboUnchained
    @RamboUnchained 8 років тому +4

    Lmao that porn music kicked in rains the 15:00 mark lol

    • @FredFedak
      @FredFedak 7 років тому

      LOL. 70s porn music no less.

    • @davidclay1768
      @davidclay1768 7 років тому

      RamboUnchained

    • @CurtisL8.3066
      @CurtisL8.3066 5 років тому

      I’ve literally heard this in at least three porn scenes 😂

  • @joyceesper4697
    @joyceesper4697 7 років тому

    love u tube

  • @tr1x_js413
    @tr1x_js413 8 років тому +1

    Dafuq is the left handed spare shooting tips!?

    • @Tex_Yowane
      @Tex_Yowane 8 років тому +1

      +MCKiller145 just use it but mirrored and it will work just the same, my only problem with this video is that it can be different depending on variables such as sport shot and how the shot has been burned in the front of the lane

  • @keithyoung6375
    @keithyoung6375 9 років тому +1

    This is the theory from 25 years ago. Today's balls react differently. Experiment and practice your game.

  • @tomjones2348
    @tomjones2348 4 роки тому

    Great information. Next video, leave out the off angle B&W camera shots. It's distracting and totally unnecessary for an informational video like this. Oh, and never play background music while the instructors are speaking. A bowling instructor does not have a boom box turned up while giving a lesson.

  • @nathandelapaz
    @nathandelapaz 6 років тому +1

    When you use this 3-6-9 system, shall I use the plastic spare ball or my strike ball?