Snare Spotlight: Tama Bell Brass

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  • Опубліковано 8 чер 2018
  • **To be clear- this is a 90's Tama Bell Brass, not a first-run Bell Brass. They did in fact make these prior to the 90's**
    In this latest edition of our Snare Spotlight series, we shed some light on the highly sought after Tama Ball Brass snare drum. While there is some controversy over "Bell Brass" as a marketing gimmick, Bell Brass or Bell Bronze is 85% copper, 15% tin whereas Brass is generally considered 60% copper, 40% zinc.
    Hear a demo of the drum and learn about what makes these so special from a performance perspective.
    👂🏼👉🏼🥁
    Leave your questions, comments, suggestions, requests down below!
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  • @Elboy522
    @Elboy522 6 років тому +61

    along with rdavidr, this is my new favorite drum channel!

  • @nathanwalsh3028
    @nathanwalsh3028 6 років тому +10

    Finally someone speaking with true experience. I have one of those drums myself and I could not agree more that you have to tensions the snare side head much higher than you would on normal snare drums to get the drum to really speak. It's obviously you have spent some time microscoping snare drums. Great stuff bro!!👍🥁

  • @9gryffen
    @9gryffen 6 років тому +11

    I'm loving this channel so much, it has been so helpful in teaching me not only how to tune my drums better but why we do those things. Thank you so much for your hard work!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому

      We're so glad to hear it! Knowing why/how this stuff works can open a lot of doors when it comes to experimenting with sounds and approaches. Cheers!

  • @DrumcoverBrazil
    @DrumcoverBrazil 6 років тому +32

    The most beautiful channel that talks about drums! Soooo fancyyyy! I hope it channel might grow so quickly!!!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому +1

      Thanks for the kind words and support! Please do share the channel with your drummer friends. Cheers!

  • @sadsongco
    @sadsongco 4 роки тому +9

    I had the pleasure of playing an 80s Tama Bell Brass on an album session in LA. I can confirm it was so heavy it hurt, and it was so loud it hurt.

  • @hickoryhop6728
    @hickoryhop6728 5 років тому +6

    Played a keplinger for years. I wanted so bad for it to sound like Black Hole Sun. Guess what I was missing was the million-dollar production.

  • @stevebigby5499
    @stevebigby5499 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much far been so opened mind.and even with such highly experiences.will continue to watch this great amenities of drumming instructors.

  • @Snarician
    @Snarician 6 років тому +28

    Great video, but I would have loved to hear the snare in the context of a groove.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому +7

      Thanks! We've been singling out the drums for the spotlight series so that the focus is really on them rather without the distraction of other drums, though that may be an option in the future. Thanks again for watching!

  • @1life2pono
    @1life2pono 6 років тому

    More great info and super interesting! Another great video!

  • @andyham6094
    @andyham6094 6 років тому

    Awesome quality, information, and presentation. This guy really knows his stuff and u can tell he is a true gear head and enjoys drums so much. You should review full drum kits with the audio and video quality of ur videos. Would love for you to review a Tama starclassic BB.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому

      Thanks so much for the kind words! We really have a blast doing this series. We'd be open to the possibility of providing overviews with our opinions and recommendations for full setups if there are certain manufacturers that are interested in doing such things. Let Tama (or any other manufacturers) know what you're interested in seeing their products featured on Sounds Like a Drum!

  • @ccdrums1290
    @ccdrums1290 6 років тому +4

    Great snare for sure. For me, I find that snare drums in general ( at least metal snares) sound better, more lively and responsive, when the bottom head is tuned pretty tight. Of course, it depends on the sound you’re after, but for me in a live rock setting, my ‘76 402 and my black beauty sound best when the bottom head is cranked up very tight. Likewise with this Tama bell brass. Great video!

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell493 6 років тому +6

    I remember the 1st catalog. The most droolworthy snare of my life.

  • @DirtyJobsGuy1
    @DirtyJobsGuy1 5 років тому

    One suggestion I would have is if you could in your tuning suggestions, is what the tension is on a Drum Dial. You often speak about if a bottom head is tight, but that can mean different things to different people. I like my drum dial and use it as a reference point to being most if not all of my drum tuning. It is a great tool for having a reference point.
    Thank you for these videos! They have helped me out very much in a lot of different ways

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 років тому +1

      Hi Michael! Thanks so much for watching and for commenting. We avoid referencing any specific dial settings (we don't use any of these devices for tuning) because it removes the educational experience from tuning and often becomes a crutch for drummers (using an abstract quantitative measurement rather than your ears as the primary source of feedback). With all of the variables in drums, sizes, rooms, and certainly subjective opinion, we want to lead viewers in the direction rather than prescribing some form of specific tension/pitch/etc. Hopefully this makes sense. Thanks again! -Ben

  • @TcapVids1985
    @TcapVids1985 6 років тому +13

    This really is another fantastic video. May I ask the name of the presenter? He is excellent. Very knowledgeable, pleasant and the videos make
    Me want to check out his music!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому +11

      Absolutely! My name is Cody Rahn and I'm a freelance drummer/percussionist/etc. here in NYC. Glad you're enjoying the content! It's been a lot of fun sharing all this info that's accumulated over the years :)

  • @jazzdrummerworld
    @jazzdrummerworld 4 роки тому +2

    Love it, what a Sound

  • @spaceburger80
    @spaceburger80 2 роки тому +1

    Phenomenal instrument... but just as phenomenal a job of explaining why its so special and showing it in an accessible way. Well done, cheers! Liked and sub'd! /fistbump

  • @declanwhite
    @declanwhite 5 років тому +3

    great video. I had a 1980 model (very first run) for a while and nothing quite sounds like it. I have however replaced it with a Drumcraft cast bronze that is twice as heavy!!! and nearly as good for 1/7th the price haha

  • @CD-gk9ix
    @CD-gk9ix 4 роки тому +10

    That’s a 90’s model BB based on the badge, the original had a Superstar badge with the extended wires

    • @ChadFarrand
      @ChadFarrand 4 роки тому +1

      Yes, the 1980 BB has different hardware as well

    • @markvandivier
      @markvandivier 3 роки тому

      Exactly, his buddy tried to tell him it’s an 80’s BB with different hardware, but the badge is a dead give away.

    • @IAmInfinitus208
      @IAmInfinitus208 2 роки тому

      Yep, I agree as any vintage Tama enthusiast will tell you. I know the OG models had the T badge.

  • @drumphil1879
    @drumphil1879 6 місяців тому

    Great drum! I have a Gretsch Phosphor Bronze that sounds quite amazing as well. Great in a studio environment

  • @Vorgaloth
    @Vorgaloth 3 роки тому +1

    I have this exact snare (PL565) and the shell is identical to the original run of this drum. I have the bell brass hoops, modern dicast hoops and the vintage Tama PC diecast hoops that are made from iron, not zinc like the modern hoops. The PC hoops are on the original bell brass and have a slightly warmer, more mellow sound whereas the modern hoops are more sharp and bright - the bell brass hoops even more.

  • @genericsomething
    @genericsomething 6 років тому

    I played one of these in the Brook Mays Pro Shop in Dallas in the early-mid 1980s (maybe 1984?). I think I was 12 at the time. I will never forget that thing. It was a monster. I wanted it badly. As a consolation, I found a Ludwig Black Beauty a few years later for an embarrassingly low price.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому

      Right on man! Yeah, you’d have a heart attack if you knew what the owner of this one paid for it.... WITH the bell brass hoops 😎

    • @markomarkovic5729
      @markomarkovic5729 6 років тому

      Yeah, there are people that don't even know what they have. A few weeks ago I ran into Rogers Dynasonic in ads for 500 euros

  • @nikdrown
    @nikdrown 6 років тому +2

    Drooling. My #1 snare to be desired. I will have it someday.

  • @stevebigby5499
    @stevebigby5499 3 роки тому

    Classic sounding.

  • @stevebigby5499
    @stevebigby5499 3 роки тому

    Drums are my favourite instrument,I love to play it as well.quality sounds or my main preference:

  • @juanluiselzurdo
    @juanluiselzurdo 4 роки тому +1

    Thats a great video.... thanks!!!

  • @markomarkovic5729
    @markomarkovic5729 6 років тому

    Great video! And you have a new subscriber from distant Belgrade, Serbia (ex-Yugoslavia)

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому

      Thanks for tuning in and subscribing, Marko! Be sure to share the channel with your fellow drummers.

  • @Savisoundman1
    @Savisoundman1 6 років тому +1

    Man used to love Thursday, great band.

  • @remygaron8311
    @remygaron8311 Рік тому

    That’s exactly what i need 👏👏👏👏🤟🏻🤟🏻🥁🇨🇦

  • @AdamBryandrums
    @AdamBryandrums 5 років тому

    Great video. Just subscribed

  • @cedricceddybearfeazell2785
    @cedricceddybearfeazell2785 6 років тому +1

    The one snare I wish I had in my collection!

  • @dansalisbury5941
    @dansalisbury5941 4 місяці тому +1

    I knew I could trust you as soon as I heard some Electric Wheelchair on that puppy 😂

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 місяці тому +1

      Haha! In fact, Cody was playing Crazy Army, which Electric Wheelchair references 🤓

    • @dansalisbury5941
      @dansalisbury5941 4 місяці тому

      @@SoundsLikeADrum 😆 whoops! Good to know; been out of the drumline game for a couple decades now. Appreciate your breadth of knowledge! The 16” bass drum tuning vid was especially helpful with my bop kit (currently my only kit despite covering a variety of gigs/genres).

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 місяці тому +1

      All good! We're both a little jealous of your drumline experience (neither of us ever marched). Glad you dug the episode about 16" bass drums. Cheers! -Ben

  • @Riddim4
    @Riddim4 6 років тому +2

    Great presentation, thank you very much. Your suggestion to tune the resonant head tightly was very useful; It’s significantly improved the sound of my cast bronze snare. I wonder if the same logic applies to cast aluminum?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому +1

      Thanks so much! It's worth experimenting with, though it depends so much on how easily choked the drum is, which often depends on additional factors such as the hardware and shell thickness.

    • @paulwhite7852
      @paulwhite7852 6 років тому +1

      Cranking the bottom head is useful for all snares honestly. These days it is the first thing I do when tuning any share with any head.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому +1

      Paul- It really depends on your preferred overall sound though. If you're going for a bit more depth/body, cranking the snare side will prevent the resonance that is necessary to create that bigger sound.

  • @deaterk
    @deaterk 6 років тому

    Nice video!...liked and subscribed.

  • @JulianFernandez
    @JulianFernandez 6 років тому

    This channel rocks!

  • @rowdysluggins
    @rowdysluggins 6 років тому +1

    Great review! I'd love to see your take on the Tama Star Reserve Vol. 4 Hand Hammered Copper. ;)

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому

      Let Tama know (tweet at them, Instagram them, Facebook message them) that you’d like to see us do a feature on the drum and let’s make it happen.

  • @remygaron8311
    @remygaron8311 4 роки тому +2

    What do you thing about pearl fss 6.5 brass 1st generation can you do an episode about it thanks🥁🥁🥁👏👏👏🇨🇦🇨🇦

  • @IAmInfinitus208
    @IAmInfinitus208 2 роки тому

    One older gentleman I met at Guitar Center even noted how out of all the snares he tried when recording, it was the OG 80's bell brass snare that was the best to him besides the Black Beauty.

  • @aparker507
    @aparker507 6 років тому +1

    Love the video. You guys should do a Tama Rosewood next in line with the bell brass!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому

      Thanks! Let Tama know that you’d like to see the drum feature here.

    • @aparker507
      @aparker507 6 років тому

      Sounds Like A Drum I have one of the reissues they released in 2014. If you guys can't locate one, let me know!

    • @8hfcvfwr
      @8hfcvfwr Рік тому

      Tama doesn’t offer the rosewood any longer.
      Like the bell brass it is a legendary drum

  • @HushAngel
    @HushAngel 3 роки тому

    Stiil a great T-BB...the early Terminator had an oversized shell width and as you already know, the snare throw-off and the snares extended out past the shell width, giving it extra bark and tone...

  • @kenpoels
    @kenpoels 6 років тому +1

    Crazy Army intro !!!

  • @toddheeter9075
    @toddheeter9075 4 роки тому

    I have a new Pearl Reference Brass. Very similar. Very expensive! I love it.

  • @pharcydebug
    @pharcydebug 4 роки тому

    What's your favourite drum cody?

  • @joetoe9207
    @joetoe9207 6 років тому

    Thanks for this! Curious, have you ever seen the (monster rare) Sonor Bell Bronze Horst?
    Love your channel!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому +2

      Definitely on the bucket-list of snares we'd like to get our hands on, but so far no luck! :) Cheers!

  • @dyamelendez
    @dyamelendez 6 років тому +1

    As a matter of fact that is not the original first-run Tama Bell Brass, but nice video nonetheless! Thank you for your content 🙏

  • @joetoe9207
    @joetoe9207 6 років тому

    Tx! Well, I’ll let you know if I pick up a few used ones on eBay. $10k each? 😁. You taught me a lot about cast in general. Tx!

  • @kaiowens1616
    @kaiowens1616 3 роки тому +1

    It is obviously a super nice drum, but just from the overhead mic. It actually sounds like a pretty normal metal snare drum. I have heard pretty similar sounds from my cheaper steel drum. Obviously cheaper drums do not have the same versatility, but it is cool to see that even the most expensive snare drums are just a drum

    • @mqpiffle100
      @mqpiffle100 2 роки тому

      While you're not wrong, these kinds of drums really shine when they are hit *hard*. They are extremely sensitive at low volume, and their tone and resonance really doesn't come into play until you are really pushing them with larger (I would say 5b or bigger) sticks. Also for these reasons and more, they are notoriously tricky to record, as they can come across much "thinner" than they sound when you are in the room with them.

    • @kaiowens1616
      @kaiowens1616 2 роки тому

      @@mqpiffle100 yeah, that totally makes sense! It’s definitely an incredibly nice Drum. It’s just nice to know that you can get similar sounds without the huge price tag

  • @marin2874
    @marin2874 6 років тому

    This video made me cry.

  • @billyyee1618
    @billyyee1618 Рік тому

    Great content. How much is this snare still worth? Thanks

  • @bergerdrum
    @bergerdrum Рік тому

    I've heard that introductory snare drum part in more than one video ... is that from The All-American Drummer?
    Oh, my, that cross-stick sound....!

  • @jonr3891
    @jonr3891 4 роки тому +1

    Love the massive snare sound on the black album, and also Brad Wilk's snare sound. I'm guessing this drum is even meatier/meaner sounding than a 6.5" Black Beauty... Thoughts?? ✌️⭐

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 3 роки тому

      jon r No snare can compete with a cast bronze shell. Different universes.

    • @austinshoupe3003
      @austinshoupe3003 3 роки тому

      Black beauty, at least the ones contemporary to this drum, is a totally different animal. The black beauty would sound wimpy and thin by comparison.

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 3 роки тому

    Would loved to have heard Buddy Rich play this 😊

  • @Circadianarrhythmia
    @Circadianarrhythmia 4 роки тому

    You should do the Ludwig split colosseum!

  • @anjasfajaryan6201
    @anjasfajaryan6201 6 років тому

    Hi, can you do snare spotlight for the Supraphonic (not BB) im talking about the ludalloy LM402, i want to hear your opinion about it.. Thanks..

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому +2

      Episode 1 over our series essentially doubles as a snare spotlight for the LM400 with my 14x5" 70's Supraphonic but it's probably worth doing a feature on the LM402 as well. Maybe Ludwig would like to do some collaborating with us...

  • @Kelesis666
    @Kelesis666 6 років тому

    Great video! How you compare the tone of this particular Tama Bell Brass tone vs Gretsch Bell Brass tone?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому +1

      Personally, I've only hit the Gretsch drum at the Winter NAMM show (a very difficult environment to have a decent evaluative listening experience) so I really couldn't say. Not sure if Cody has spent any time with them. -Ben

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 4 роки тому

      kelesis666 The Gretch BB shells are roto cast like the newer re issue Tama shells so they aren’t the same animal as the OG sand cast shells.

  • @scotturban54
    @scotturban54 3 роки тому

    Cool

  • @statelikesleep3242
    @statelikesleep3242 4 роки тому

    Great video! Mind doing one bout Tama Abe Cunningham Snare? 👍🏼

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      That's a possibility in the future but we don't have immediate access to one and have a long list of vintage drums we want to cover first. Thanks!

  • @zachcline7555
    @zachcline7555 6 років тому

    I'm getting one of these at some point .I really regret not getting the 6.5x14 when they were going for $1100 back in the late 90's early 2000's. I've seen it go for as much as $3500 on Ebay

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому

      They sure do sell for a pretty penny now! Especially if they've got the matching hoops. Still, a patient and watchful eye will see a deal pop up every once in a while.

    • @zachcline7555
      @zachcline7555 6 років тому +1

      Sounds Like A Drum Oh yeah definitely. I've seen the ones from the 80's going for close to $5000. It's insane .I do remember years ago ,I came across a tama rockstar on Ebay that came with a 6.5x14 bell brass. But it was being sold by a kids parent that had no clue what that snare was worth lol

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 5 років тому

    Have you done the Gretsch Brooklyn COB snare .

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 років тому

      Not yet, we have quite a list of drums we're hoping to get to though :) -Cody

  • @pharcydebug
    @pharcydebug 4 роки тому +2

    would the dw collector brass have a similiar bearing edge and respond to really cranking up the reso the same way?

    • @SionedWillicombe
      @SionedWillicombe 4 роки тому

      H'mm I'm not sure

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 3 роки тому

      pharcydebug The DW is a completely different type of shell. The DW is made of sheet metal that is rolled and welded with the bearing edge rolled to a specific shape. The Tama shell is sand cast into a solid shell with the bearing edge machined like a wood shell has.

    • @pharcydebug
      @pharcydebug 3 роки тому +1

      @@Assimilator702 Cheers for the info Joe, finally got the snare where I want it now

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 3 роки тому

      pharcydebug Which snare do you have?

    • @pharcydebug
      @pharcydebug 3 роки тому

      @@Assimilator702 dw collector's brass, 3mm shell (6.5)

  • @moonkef
    @moonkef 4 роки тому

    Another great thing about these and loud snares in general is they help reduce open hi hat bleed when recording.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      If in doubt, you can always play your snare louder and your hihats softer as well. Self-mixing is super important.

  • @lodougherty
    @lodougherty 6 років тому

    I have a coated 10 mil top, and a 3mil snare side..... but man I can't get that tone, even with super tight tuning on the bottom head, and medium on the top.
    I have a Tama snare and can't get it to sound that clean, the snare wires always sound like they are either too choked, or when they're lose they sound like they're phasing or something.
    Comment section? Any help?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому

      Which model drum is it and what wires are you using? Are the wires in good condition? It's possible that the snare side is choking the shell at the higher tension and you have a limited sweet spot where the wires will work well with the given snare side tension. To start out, we'd recommend going back to episodes 1 and 2 of our series but we're happy to help however we can.

  • @mgdrummer77
    @mgdrummer77 6 років тому +27

    That's a late 90's edition BB, not an original. The original would have the Superstar "T" badge and Superstar lugs/roller throw off.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому +21

      Mike Gerbitz you’re absolutely right, sorry for the poor wording - the intent was to differentiate from the newer Starclassic reissue stuff. This is certainly a 90’s, not 80’s. Sorry about that!

    • @tweevers2
      @tweevers2 6 років тому +1

      yup INdeed!

    • @drumfanatik316
      @drumfanatik316 6 років тому

      Plus, the late 90’s run had the bell brass hoops as well. I had a chance to buy one, with said hoops, for $800 back in the day!!! Finally talked my wife at the time, into letting me get it, went back to the store and it was GONE!!! Ughhh!!! Still kicking myself in the butt for that one!!! Then missed another one, the Lars Ulrich Bell Brass signature model, on Craigslist for $650!!! One day, I’m still hoping!!!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому +2

      drumfanatik316 you’re right and this one has them too, they are just bent from heavy use and wouldn’t tune up evenly so we swapped them out for this video for the sake of sound :) those things are freakin’ amazing though!

    • @billyyee1618
      @billyyee1618 5 років тому +1

      @@drumfanatik316 Yes, you sure get one someday. Honestly, it sounds brilliant. I own the one with bell brass hoops. Man it screm but versatile. Good luck

  • @officialMainspring
    @officialMainspring 5 років тому +2

    so....... it's going almost 6 months... no vid of this snare with bell bronze hoops... :(

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 років тому +2

      The hoops that pair with this drum were damaged and there have been quite a few other priorities to cover. If a manufacturer is willing to send us some hoops to use, we’ll make it happen but we’ve been quite busy as of late. -Ben

    • @Vorgaloth
      @Vorgaloth 3 роки тому

      I have this snare with the bell brass hoops. They're really sharp and bright sounding. I actually prefer the vintage Tama PC diecast hoops. That's what the first run of the bell brass came with. They are different from other diecast hoops as they are made from iron not zinc. They give a slightly warmer tone and mellow out the sharpness, which I prefer.

  • @derrekclay7425
    @derrekclay7425 Рік тому

    Really want a Bell Brass snare but can’t afford to pay several thousand $ for one. Any recommendations for other Bell Brass Snares that are more readily available?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  Рік тому

      Technically Tama is the only one with a “Bell Brass” snare, as that’s the branding rather than the material. Cast bell bronze shells are quite costly to manufacture and one of the leading suppliers recently decided to stop producing drum shells so, unfortunately, prices are likely to go up even on non-Tama cast bronze snares. We had a drum from Offbeat Drum Co. a short while back that was incredible ( featured here: ua-cam.com/video/jeeNSBcem7o/v-deo.html ) but again, she’ll availability is quite hard to come by right now.

    • @Riddim4
      @Riddim4 3 місяці тому

      Duluth Bronze Castings can make cast shells and hoops to your specs. There’s also a company in Turkey that does this, although the name escapes me at the moment. I have a Duluth shell inside a pearl, free floater assembly with hex rods. It gives darkness and articulation.

  • @MassiveDerek
    @MassiveDerek 4 роки тому +1

    how about the gretsch bell brass? any comparison at all? seems like similar construction, 3 mil brass with die cast hoops?

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 4 роки тому +1

      Derek The Gretch are ROTO CAST and not sand cast like the early Tama shells. However after owning the Gretch for 6 months it is absolutely an amazong mustnown snare. Roto casting makes the metal more consistent. The magic of the legendary Tama BB snares is all the nooks and crannies that make the metal weaker but also impart the unique resonant qualities. The differences recorded on a srudio might be noticable but live in person I doubt anyone would notice.

    • @BlueHouseSoundStudio
      @BlueHouseSoundStudio 3 роки тому

      @@Assimilator702 Do you no if the Gretsch USA bell brass is also roto cast ? and Is it in fact made in USA? lol I heard the other ones made were Korean or something and not very consistent in shape / thickness when analyzed.

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 3 роки тому +1

      @@BlueHouseSoundStudio You’ll never get a straight answer where it’s made. More than likely Taiwan or possibly China. I would bet everything I have it’s rotocast as it’s virtually identical to the newer Tama. Sand cast stopped with the first run of the Tama Starphonic shells according to people that know all the details of cast shells.

    • @BlueHouseSoundStudio
      @BlueHouseSoundStudio 3 роки тому

      @@Assimilator702 thank you for the info!
      I still feel like I would put my money on the gretsch over the anniversary Tama... I played one in a studio session and did not like it... Tamas modern hardware I also find... “funky”...
      I don’t see anyone talking about how or why the anniversary bell brass has that smooth satin finish to the shell and that Rosie tint to it... it’s confusing.

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 3 роки тому

      @@BlueHouseSoundStudio If you look at various pictures of B8 Bronze it can look anywhere between the color of the newer Tama 40th shells and the Gretch Bell Brass. When I first received by Gretch BA k in April I was concerned with the color as it actually looks closer to the color of actual BRASS and not Bronze. I did a search and found some Sabian B8 splashes and they were the same color as the Gretch shell which is obviously machined to a fine finish and more than likely coated for protection. And it’s funny you say you don’t like Tama hardware as I believe it’s the best hardware on the market specifically the Linear Strainer and butt plate. The Gretch Lightning Throwoff and the fish body butt plate are HORENDOUS and the engineer that designed them should be brought out back and shot. Yes I hate the hardware that much. Being so used to Tama strainers and how easy it is to change wires I was confused how anyone at Gretch thought this system is up to today’s high standards. LUCKILY the Tama Linear Throwoff fits on the butt plate side with only a slight squeeze in the vice. The Gretch Lightning Thowoff now becomes the butt plate essentially giving you a side to side throwoff and the quick release if needed. I’ll either leave it as is or make an adapter for the Tama butt plate. However the hole pattern Gretch chose will make a very large plate necessary. I highly recommend getting one of these snares though since the sound is spectacular and they’re only $1000 street price IF you can find one. I don’t think Gretch makes many of these snares as no one has one in stock. For a few months now the Gretch cast snares are difficult to come by. I was lucky in April to find in at SW when they had 3 in stock. The other 2 sold within a week. Grab one if you can.

  • @Freddy-Da-Freeloadah
    @Freddy-Da-Freeloadah 6 років тому

    Cow bell? Bill Buford is supposed to have used (his signature version...)of this drum as a cow bell... Needs more Cow bell!!!!

  • @The_Other_Ghost
    @The_Other_Ghost 2 роки тому

    Just talked to Tucker today, he cranks it up and muffels it depending on the room.

  • @jensharald9091
    @jensharald9091 4 роки тому

    How does the new starphonic bell brass 3mm compare to it though?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      Can't say that we've had both in the same room at once so it would be tough to draw any sort of comparison between the two.

    • @jensharald9091
      @jensharald9091 4 роки тому

      Sure! It's just pure curiosity and thought I might just hear from someone who has a grasp of the comparison, in the amazing community surrounding this channel. But thank you guys ever so much for replying so frequently!! It's not something you come to expect on most of UA-cam nowadays, you're really doing an amazing job.

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 4 роки тому

      Jens Harald The early Starphonic BB shells are sand cast and very rare. Most are roto cast and not the same thing. Still great snares though.

  • @IncurZeAwperator
    @IncurZeAwperator 5 років тому

    what camera do yall shoot your videos on?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 років тому

      Canon 5D Mark IV and a Canon 6D with occasional GoPro footage added in. All lenses are Canon L series.

    • @IncurZeAwperator
      @IncurZeAwperator 5 років тому

      loos very good for dslr footage. I mean dslrs can look great but i woulda guessed c100 mk2. looks awesome

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 років тому

      Thanks! Good lighting makes a big difference. We may bump up to the C200 mkII in the future if we can justify it with some brand and/or viewer support for some slow motion and higher resolution imagery. Cheers!

  • @drummer93ful
    @drummer93ful 5 років тому

    I have a tama bell brass. The best snare in the hystory

  • @anthonydecay8363
    @anthonydecay8363 5 років тому

    I wonder how this compares to the current Gretsch cast brass snare.

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 4 роки тому

      Anthony Decay The Gretch shells are roto cast so no they are a completely different animal. They’re great snares but NOT a replacement for a sand cast Bronze shell.

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 3 роки тому

    Is the Tama SLP bronze snare, based loosely on this..?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  3 роки тому

      Hmmm, I don’t think so but you’d really have to ask someone at Tama about the inspiration there.

    • @GazozMaciniz
      @GazozMaciniz 3 роки тому

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Slp is a low budget version of BB if you tune it mid or higher. in low tuning slp fails. But if you tune it up then you can feel the taste.

  • @andyham6094
    @andyham6094 6 років тому

    I actually prefer the lugs and look of the newer reissue bell brass. But either way Tama bell brass is the best snare drum sound in the world to me.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому

      It's definitely a matter of style but we totally agree- these drums are something special!

  • @Noteven0
    @Noteven0 3 роки тому

    The DW Collector Series Bell Brass Sounds Infinitely Better IMO, but the Tama BB is Sexxy.

  • @radelarosa97
    @radelarosa97 3 роки тому

    There’s one on eBay for about 6,500, that has the cast hoops. That’s already a arm, leg and your soul lol.

  • @TheSaneMe
    @TheSaneMe 6 років тому

    how about sonor bell bronze ?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому +1

      If Sonor is down to send one, we’re down to create a badass video with it. Let Sonor know that you’d like to see the drum featured on our channel!

  • @davidcarrizales1724
    @davidcarrizales1724 5 років тому +1

    My $25.00 CB700 snare drum with cowhide heads sound 100% 64rr4My work can be heard on "Boogie No More" Molly Hatchet's Flirting with Disaster album. The secret is mic. set up that's it!

  • @davidsuprenant893
    @davidsuprenant893 4 роки тому

    Very curious how much the original sold for.??

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 4 роки тому

      David Suprenant You can find one for $6,000 if you’re lucky. A bit more if you’re not.

    • @davidsuprenant893
      @davidsuprenant893 4 роки тому

      @@Assimilator702 wow,that's a lot of Dow.Owned a lot of snares in my life but never anything worth that kinda money.

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 4 роки тому

      David Suprenant Those early shells were actually boutique made by very small shops not huge factories. They were also sand cast and not roto cast which don’t have the resonant qualities of sand cast. Tama has gone back and forth between sand cast which is superior to roto cast through the years but I believe the last sand cast shells are the earliest runs of the Starphonic snares. Wether sand cast or roto cast they’re all expensive as that is not the type of shell that can be mass produced. Gretch has a Solid shell series and they’ve all been sold out for months now. Everywhere you look they’re back ordered and I have a feeling they’ll never be in stock and simply have to be special ordered if you want one. That DCP video from back in November did it. 2 months after that and no one had the drums in stock. I suggest the Gretch Solid Steel as it’s a very reasonable $650 and every bit as good as the more expensive solid shells.

  • @RyanHannaMusic
    @RyanHannaMusic 4 роки тому

    Lovely 3:15

  • @AndrewDRoyappa
    @AndrewDRoyappa 5 років тому

    what happened to the video with the bell brass hoops :(

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 років тому +1

      The hoops were damaged so we haven't been able to use them. Hopefully we'll get our hands on a fresh set in the future. -Ben

    • @AndrewDRoyappa
      @AndrewDRoyappa 5 років тому

      @@SoundsLikeADrum ah, gotcha. Thanks for replying! Your channel is incredible, every single video is something I've always wondered about - I'm gonna have to sink some major hours into watching them all hahaha

  • @MrNickDrummer
    @MrNickDrummer 3 роки тому

    Bell Bronze. (Not brass). Try an Oriollo BellMaker, you'll be amazed 👍

  • @malcspring448
    @malcspring448 5 років тому

    The absolute original Bell Brass had a Tama T badge and the shell was 5 mm thick as opposed to this re-issue which it 3 mm.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 років тому

      Indeed!

    • @drumblasts9007
      @drumblasts9007 5 років тому +1

      It has been discovered that the original in fact was only a 3 mm. It was either a typo, or Tama changed their minds after the 1980 catalog came out. I have a 1980 "raw finish" and that is a 3 mm. All the other raw finish Bell Brass's I have seen on the web have also been 3 mm. Terry Bissette and the rest of the Tama forum nerds can back this up. There MAYBE a few prototype's of a 5 mm raw finish out there if that. Elvin Jones would of owned one of them. Also, great video on this newer BB, Sounds Like A Drum!!

  • @nybcbuildingmanager6770
    @nybcbuildingmanager6770 4 роки тому

    Do a Canopus Zelkova!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      We’d love to if Canopus wants to support such a thing.

    • @karlfromkarlsballs
      @karlfromkarlsballs 4 роки тому

      Sounds Like A Drum I got one. Live in Manhattan. When this virus is over feel free to use it for a review. There’s nothing like it!

  • @rapscallion52
    @rapscallion52 5 років тому

    ain't got nothin on my 35 lb hunk of steel pipe I bolted some snare hardware to.

  • @remygaron8311
    @remygaron8311 4 роки тому

    To me looks like 2 nd generation lugs are different from 1 st generation

  • @andre-pz1wv
    @andre-pz1wv 6 років тому

    SJC Bell Brass is 18 lbs. I think

  • @The_Other_Ghost
    @The_Other_Ghost 4 роки тому

    "If you have roadies" Tucker is quite diy.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      He also doesn’t take this on the road but a lot of bands he plays with do have a tour crew.

    • @The_Other_Ghost
      @The_Other_Ghost 4 роки тому

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Tried getting him on the show? He's definitely down to earth.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      @@The_Other_Ghost For sure! He's a good friend of ours. We've decided that our Tuesday series isn't the best fit for inviting guests but that's something we'd like to to outside of the confines of the tutorial series in the future as time and support permits. Cheers! -Ben

  • @rockdahaus
    @rockdahaus 4 роки тому

    Most heavy? Ever touched a Sonor HLD590 snare? ;-)

  • @robertredford4332
    @robertredford4332 6 років тому

    original has brass die cast hoops

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому

      And this one does too! They were somewhat damaged and in the process of getting repaired when we shot this, hence the swap out for standard diecast.

  • @cutaway79
    @cutaway79 2 роки тому

    I love this channel, but that's not the first run of the Tama Bell Brass. Unless Tucker changed the lugs and badge on this drum, that is.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  2 роки тому +1

      Check the first line of the video description... 😉

    • @cutaway79
      @cutaway79 2 роки тому

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Ah... I only saw the title, then watched the video (too eager to dive in). Either way, you guys do awesome work. I've been playing for 35 years, and kind of fell into a specific way of tuning. But I've learned so much new stuff from your videos. The host is a pro all the way. Very good at describing/explaining things concisely. Hands down, best and most informative drum-related channel on UA-cam. Keep up the great work.

  • @bpooboi
    @bpooboi 6 місяців тому

    Wonder how them melted down cymbal drums of Danny Carey sounded

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 3 роки тому

    Looks the the expensive, big brother version, of the Tama SLP Bronze snare.

  • @seafoamer
    @seafoamer Рік тому

    why would they call it brass if it’s bronze?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  Рік тому +1

      It was just a form of differentiation in branding. This is a lot more common than you might think.

  • @krusher74
    @krusher74 4 місяці тому

    Fun fact, no brass was used in the making of this snare.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 місяці тому

      And yet that’s the name. The truth is in the sound.

  • @qw1419xtj
    @qw1419xtj 4 роки тому +4

    7 minutes of talking for 15 seconds of drum.

  • @hatebladmoon2182
    @hatebladmoon2182 Рік тому

    Bad sawnd anb sner

  • @matthewpaluch777
    @matthewpaluch777 6 років тому

    That is not an original late 70's TAMA bell brass!
    Unfortunately the latest re-issue
    versions were NOT made the same way, thus sounding like shyte!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  6 років тому +1

      We actually covered that in the comments above though the first Tama Bell Brass snares were made in the early 1980's.

  • @jimbob2422
    @jimbob2422 6 років тому

    Drum are not capable of addapting