FAST WOODS RIDE with 72v 12,500 Watt Ebike ( 12.5KW - SABVOTON 72200 - qs273 5T )
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Come ride with me as I thread the needle between trees, jumps the whoops, and tear it up in the woods. For anyone that says you cannot ride a hub motor ebike off road, show them this video.
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Frame, motor, Sabvoton controller and wheels from Alibaba. Everything else was purchased through various online stores and built in my garage.
Full Spec List:
1. QS273 V3 motor, 5T winding
2. Sabvoton 72200 200amp controller - locked version running at 150amps.
3. 49ah Panasonic battery with 150 amp max bms. (weighs 37lbs.) Secondary battery is LG1 cells running at 72, 10.5ah.
4. 80/100-21 front tire & 18x1.85 rim in rear with 90/100-18 Dunlop K990 tire.
5. Protaper Aluminum Handlebar, 3" Rise, 31.8mm Bar Clamp, 810mm Width. I cut 1.5” off either side.
6. Odi Rogue lock on grips. These things are AWESOME!
7. Shimano Zee 4 piston brakes on both front and back. Front rotor is a SRAM Centerline 220mm with a Hope adapter. Wired for e-brake. These brakes are a definite improvement over Tektros.
8. Two 210mm DNM RCP 2S 550lbs shocks.
9. DNM USD8 front forks.
10. Shimano MX 16 Tooth Single Speed Freewheel.
11. Fender is off a Razor MX650 and cut down to size. Had to get creative in mounting this as there is no mounting holes on the DNM fork.
12. SCOSCHE MAGTFM2 MagicMount XL Universal Flush Mount Holder for Mobile Devices.
13. CAB Motorworks Saddleman seat made in USA. LOVE this seat. SO much better than the Chinese version.
14. Nkomax automatic Smart Bike Tail Light Ultra Bright
15. OneUp Components Composite Pedals. Your feet stick to these like glue.
16. Izumi Chain JET BLACK Easy Running 1/8" BMX
17. FFSA Gravity Light Direct Mount Stem 31.8mm 5D 45mm, with a Direct Mount Stem Stack Billet Spacer 12mm from SOUL
18. RaceFace Narrow Wide 1x Chain Retaining Chainring 5-Bolt 110mm BCD 40t Black with Promax SQ-1 155mm crank arms.
19. 180lbs.
20. Grin Cycle Satiator 72 volt e-bike SMART battery charger.
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Nice greens-lined burns of the gnomes. Beaut!
Brilliant dude. This really does rip with the 5t motor.
Swapping the forks will make so much difference 🤙
Yeah I swapped out to the Fox 40s and man they're much better. If I hit a jump or a whoop at speed they still bottom out, but not as easily as the dnm's did. They have enabled me to increase my overall speed though on tough trails.
Glad to see you back out there! 🤘🏽
Thanks man!!!
Love it josh...well done 👌
Thanks brother!!!
Dude that bike is sooooo sick!!! Nice build 🤩
Thanks man!
You seem to be hammering that pretty good.
"Call me Lurch, the Torque Monster"
Love your videos, you've got one of the best modified bikes on UA-cam.
Thanks dude!!!!
Yeeee haaaaaa! 👍🏻
I've got the same bike as you, could you tell me what a few of your settings are so I can get my bike right
System
Auto assist ?
The option for pedal throttle or both option disappeared I'd like to get that back on my display.
Advanced settings
I'd like to know what all the settings are?
Any help would be appreciated
Also under information my bike is running
Hardware version 3.0
Software version 2.0
Great video! Nice work and riding!
Thanks man!!!! Love the stuff you doing as well, great engineering skills
So awesome
Thanks man!
Fantastic editing Bro!
Yooo thanks man! If we lived closer we could collaborate....but alas there's an entire continent between, lol
Humans can now get the POV of a fast cat hunting things in the woods imagine your a big cat chasing something lol
I rode that trail . Good job on the handling
Thanks man!
Is hub motor good for off road? i dont know if u tell this in the video because i am not a good english speaker. Everybody are saying that for off you need mid drive motors. What can you tell me?
ua-cam.com/video/YgfQrGS3d70/v-deo.html
Monster Class ebike
What kind of seat is that and where do I get one?
Hey Josh, I love these vids on your ebike! Thinking of getting one built for myself except with a bicycle style saddle. How tough is pedaling on flat ground? I ride a single speed bicycle around hilly vancouver no problem but I wonder about this thing. Is it hard to maintain ~15km/hr (9-10mph) on flat ground without the motor assist?
The pedals and crank on this thing are purely for show it is very difficult to pedal, at least with the gearing ratio I have on it
Awesome video. :)
Love this bike 💯👍👍
Thanks bro!
@@JoshStreetDesign I'm in the hospital now whiskey throttled my YZ. throttle responses is like night and day from electric two-stroke I'm sticking to my whole I'm done bro 😂
@@racerx2095 wait what do you mean? you're in the hospital because you're whiskey throttled your dirt bike? so what are you saying you like the dirt bike throttle better or electric bike throttle better?
@@JoshStreetDesign I'm saying I'm riding my ebike and not riding my dirt bike that's it was my own fault.I gotta have surgery on my leg.Its all good though.
@@JoshStreetDesign well on dirt bike there's throttle and clutch and a e bike is just throttle you got to deal with
FUCKING EPIC!!! Nice build. You have used quality parts there. I adore those front and rear fenders to finish the trials bike look. What bike did you salvage them from?
Thanks! Yeah a lot of upgrade parts. Can't wait to get the fox 40s on it. The front fender was off a razor MX650 and the rear fender is the extended fender for the sur ron.
Hi, I have had many people on the endless sphere form tell me that a 5T qs205 or 275 would have too much resistance if it was only powered by 26kw at 72 volts, you are running half the power but seem to be doing fine with the 5T motor, do you think that the 5T works well for your setup?
Whoever told you that has no idea what they're talking about. Love the 5t 273 motor.
@@JoshStreetDesign ok cool, thanks man
What hub did you use in the front to run a motorcycle tire with? My issue is that the motorcycle rims have bigger spoke holes so the mtb hubs don't work. And the motorcycle tires and rims have a different brake set up that doesn't fit a mtb disc setup. HELP PLEASE! 😅
It's a down hill fork hub. Read this. www.notubes.com/stories/say-what-the-difference-between-20x110mm-thru-axles-and-20x110mm-boost-thru-axles-explained
@@JoshStreetDesign Awesome! Thank you!
Hello Josh can i install ASI BAC 4000 or 8000 on my Battery 72V 32Ah Motor - QS 205 V3 5000W and if i can is it possible to burn my motor or i need to changed on qs 273
you can but you would just have to turn down the settings
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Man I'm really thinking you should've went with a Vortex frame and mid drive paired with some actual dirt bike forks etc. It's a nice bike for real, but I don't think a hub motor and mtb forks are enough for the rough trails. Some other people I've seen get the Fox forks still had bottoming issues. I want to build up a custom Vortex myself, but torn between that and a good bomber frame build over the pedals, I don't want to be harassed by police yet still able to ride rail trails, roads, etc. I suppose I could just paint everything flat black and be sneaky lmao
That's why I just bought a brand new 2018 Alta MXR. That thing is baaaad Asssssss
Great ride video Josh :) . do you run the sab72200 at 150amps? why not at 200? . cheers
Thanks bro. My battery bms only allowed 150amp max unfortunately. I was looking into upgrading the battery but I'm going to wait until I get the nuclear 24f controller which might take more than 6 months to be honest. the nmc batteries I was looking at won't fit in my frame with the sabaton at the same time and I do not want to mount the sabaton outside the frame I don't like the way that looks
@@JoshStreetDesign Hi, I love the videos. If the BMS is limiting the amps. Then you should do a BMS bypass and pull the most amps that your battery can push. Keep up the great work! Peace.
@@GrendelKhan666 yeah I thought about that but I just don't really want to ruin that battery if it's not designed to pull that high of an amperage.
Do you have a heating problem with the hub? If yes, how do you mitigate.
No, it's never overheated
@@JoshStreetDesign kudos Josh. You reply to every comment! Wasnt thinking of subscribing but imma subscribe now! Keep it up
@@andre_0413 thanks man!!!
200amps at 72v is 15.83kw now 12.5kw
How you calculate 12,5kw ? 72x150 is 10,8kw
He probably did 84V X 150A, 84V is the max voltage for a 72V battery. However this isn’t correct, you did it right. The battery is only 84V right after you charged it and you aren’t pressing the throttle.
I was hoping you would encounter a big hill because I have heard that hub motors don't do well with hills as they do not have the torque for it.
There were a few hills in there, lol. You just can't tell as much because it's go pro. But this motor powers up hills with no problem, like 50 degree hills even. I'm finishing up my next video today which shows a lot more really steep hill climbs.
Do you have a link for that back tire? Or dimension?
Dunlop k990, 90/100-18. It's 4.1 inches wide at the knobbies
What kinda phone mount is this i want one too
It's in the video description
Hi. I have a vector typhoon ebike.....interested to know what size your rear tyre is please? Thanks
Dunlop k990, 90/100-18. If you have the regular qs205 motor I doubt this tire would fit in your swing arm.
At the moment I'm using 18 x 3.00 tyres at the back, not sure what the equivalent is to your tyre ?
@@sicosis the actual measurement of my tire from the outside knobby to the outside knobby is 4.1 in
Ok. Nice one for replying.
I seen your black bomber on a buckolus add, did you know about that?
not sure what that is
@@JoshStreetDesign also need more bomber content, lol
@@robharden4503 yeah I know, sorry about that man, ha ha
Hey josh, really enjoyed the progression of the build going to 5t and everything, super cool bike, was wondering how you feel about all the unsprung weight in the back wheel, I know the 723 is a pretty heavy motor, does it make the bike a little bouncy at the back or difficult to control at all? I'm wondering if it's worth modding a 205 to get similar powe, I was talking to a guy wo pushes 12kw with one and its about a third lighter I think, oh also why do you feel the need to upgrade from the sabvoton/what dont you like about it. Cheers man
Regarding the back wheel, No I don't mind it all all. Look at the terrain I was riding in and at the speed I was riding. 99% of people aren't going to ride hard like that, and If I can do it no problem then it's definitely no problem for the streets and easier riding. I recommend the 273 over the 205 all day long, more power. What also helps is this large tire I'm using that only has 10psi in it. It really goes a long way to suck up the bumps. If anything I would say the crap DNM front suspension forks are worse. I don't have any problems with the Sabvoton, I think it's a great controller. I just need something smaller with similar specs so I can fit a more powerful battery in the bike in the future and maybe run this at 96 volts.
@@JoshStreetDesign They building a new design as we speak. It can hold more battery. Also look up Golden motors. They have a new design coming out also.
@@myezbk1289 how do you know? Got a link?
@@JoshStreetDesign I have a picture of it but I cant put it through here. It's not allowed thru pic
wht s the top speed with ur 5t? wht kind of bms do u want to buy for ur battery?
The fastest I've gone off a full charge per the relive app is 48 mph but that was a quick Spike speed. Normally you can average about 42 to 45 mph. Whereas the 3.5T motor I would peak out at 62 mph
@@JoshStreetDesign A seller from China told me that a 2.5 T is faster than 3, 3.5 and 5t winding. Is it true?
@@myezbk1289 yes, the lower the winding the faster the top speed, but the slower the acceleration.
Is this engine not rated at 8kw peak 4000w nominal ?
Best ragards
yes, but you can run 30kw through these things and be fine.
Hey Josh. Great video. I am a new subscriber. I really like your Chanel its giving me alot of great information. I recently bought the 12000W qs273 sv72150 Panasonic 49ah battery model. I am looking to buy the sv72200 controller to upgrade for more power. The motor is the 3.5T winding. What typ of power difference should I fell for the 200 Amp controller upgrade?
Thanks dude I definitely appreciate the subscription. Regarding the controller honestly I would stick with the one you have now because your battery won't be able to take advantage of the higher powered controller. I made that same mistake and now I have a 72200 sitting on my shelf not being used.
@@JoshStreetDesign what modifications do you recommend for me to increase power and longevity of my bike? I am looking at the high temp lacquer, Ferrofluid and hub sinks. Which of these do you recommend?
@@frenchieking4117 power, get a better battery. : )
@@JoshStreetDesign yeah that's the part I'm looking at next. I'm trying to message some suppliers in China about custom batteries. Just need to give them some dimensions for a pack to fit. Do you suggest a Lithium ion polymer cell packs? Or is there anyone using the tesla batteries from a tesla-3 battery pack? Just some ideas 💡 here wondering what direction to go to get the biggest Ah in the battery box size I am limited to. Do you know of any north American battery builders at good prices? I'm in Canada 🇨🇦
@@frenchieking4117 no one in China dude. You need to find a local builder, or at the very least one in the US. Chinese batteries will always be sub par.
Very informative video, im trying to get a battery like the one that you have but not getting one in that shape, any assistance would help
Are you on FB as a member of any of the electric bike groups? There's a lot of guys who build custom batteries on there
@@JoshStreetDesign i'll try joining one now, thanks
@@itsJaeTeal diy electric bikes and custom e-bikes are two big ones
you are running a battery on the front as well? id like to see more of that.
Sure am. It's in the controller box. I made a video about it here. ua-cam.com/video/2kvmUoIGxhQ/v-deo.html
@@JoshStreetDesign right on thank you!!
Where can the bike be purchased?
Well the base of the bike which would be the frame, the battery, and the controller were from an Alibaba seller. But literally everything else I changed and upgraded. As it sits it would cost you around $5,000 to make it look the way it does.
Hi Josh nice to see some content again always enjoy your videos 👍😀 please check my 134.4v ebike havnt open it up in high-speed mode yet but get speeds of 85mph in mode 1
Thanks man. Do you have a picture of the bike anywhere?
@@JoshStreetDesign think there's a picture at beginning of one video I will do a walk around at some point just practicing with editing at moment found need more footage 😀
I only got cars to doge 👌
5000w 5T or 8000w whichever is better to choose?
they can both be 5t...do you mean the QS273 vs QS205 motor? the QS205 motor is smaller and rated at 3kw, the 273 is rated at 8kw....I prefer the 273. The windings of the motor determine speed. 3.5t will go faster than the 5t, but it will accelerate slower.
that handlebar is too short try a 780 mm one
No way dude. This bar comes in at over 800mm which is too wide for the north east woods trails I ride, so I cut off like an inch on either side. I'm actually considering cutting off more.