The HX Stomp is the Best Piece of Gear Ever For the Money....And Free Updates...
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00:00 I've never been paid to make a video with the HX Stomp
4:15 Nemo and Crew
5:30 the presets in the intro
6:24 when it launched
7:30 what it was like at launch
8:19 upgrade from 6 to 8 blocks
8:45 upgraded Oversampling
10:10 the cab update
11:06 dynamic Reverbs are incredible
11:30 Poly pitch effects are great BUT
12:15 so many incredible new amps since launch
13:15 any other suggestions for best value pedal ever?
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Dude, I drove uber eats every lunchbreak I had for 3 months at work to save up for an HX Stomp in 2019. I have used it for gigs countless times and is still, for the money the best gear purchase I’ve ever made, bar none. It’s still on my board now, used on countless worship and cover band gigs. It’s the GOAT imo
I did the same thing lol the only time I’ll feel like I want a new modeler is if line 6 releases a new one
I’ve also convinced my dad who’s all tube all analog to get one and now he barely uses his real amps haha!
@@Valerious187 I’m a tube amp guy but most of my gigs require a silent stage. Hell even with my tube amp I made patches for my stomp with my amp! It’s literally the brains of my entire rig. And same sentiments with getting a new modeler, if line 6 release an HX Stomp 2, whatever that is I’m buying it. The QC nano and Kemper player might sound better, but they aren’t nearly as flexible and cost effective. HX Stomp is king in my eyes
@@DareBear2099
There are some excellent tube amps with cab sim outs, so it uses the actual amp.
I’ve been using the Revv d20, and it works really well. I’ve used many modelers, and the HX Stomp, and the presets in the Revv worked just as well as any amp and cab model I’ve made or tried.
Egnater makes an amp that has one, and has silent or amp speaker on, with the Cab Sim out.
Friedman make one. The BE50 and 100 I think.
Me: Search UA-cam for HX Stomp tones
UA-cam: Let me introduce you to JNC
Just wanted to take the opportunity to say that I appreciate you, my friend. Grateful for the content and inspiration you provide
I sold my Helix for the Stomp. More recently I've paired it with the Tonex One and now the Nano Cortex and it's the one piece of gear I couldn't live without.
IMO, you are not wrong. I recently sold my Helix, not because I didn't love it, but because I can do everything I need to do with an HX Stomp.
It really is an amazing bit of kit, (and John you are largely responsible for me getting one about 3 years or so back). Initially i just used it for practice at home with it sat on the desktop (brilliant application for it) but maybe a year or more ago i bit the bullet, put it on a board with a few drives in front and use it as my modulation, delays and verbs either into my amp, or actually most often now as the amp(s) as well into FOH. I added a Jet Micro as well which made it even better for live use… i look at all my other pedals now and think ‘what do i need you for?”
The HX Stomp feeds my studio monitors 99% of the time and works great for low volume recording. Sometimes I use it as my full rig, sometimes it's the amp sim at the end of my board and sometimes I use it for one specific effect that I don't already own. It just does so much and I think most people should own one if they don't already have anything like it.
Yes. Definitely. Bought it for recording. Used it for 2 albums and an ep. I got mine when they were sub £500 too.
I just bought a Stomp used. It’s ridiculously good as an fx in front of my tube amp. For a hobbyist like me it covers so many bases, including tuner and looper. The UI is also fantastic
Absolutely. Possibly the best piece of gear in 50 plus years of guitar playing. Just works when I need the sound but also still new things to find...and then the updates too.
Best investment in guitar pedals I've ever made. Great summary of the overall value Line 6 delivered with this unit.
In terms of value for the money, features, size, amp model and effects availability, and output options, the HX Stomp is the best piece of musical kit in which I've ever invested. After almost 4 years of owning one, I'm still excited and giddy about putting together new presets.
Solid video! I had an HXStomp then traded it in and regretted it. After about a year I bought another one lol. I’ve also been really impressed by the Pod Express. Line 6 seems to click with me.
This is beautifully timed for me as I've just taken delivery of my first Stomp XL after a lot of saving. Your channel and sounds are the reason (and yes, I have bought all your Helix sounds!) I don't know if this will help, but Yamaha/Line 6 are owe you a lot of credit/cash for your championing of the Helix Stomp. I can't play nearly as well as you, but at least thanks to the Helix/Gumroad folder, I can't blame my gear! 😂😂😂
Oh, and Nemo and Crew can expect an order shortly as well ❤
your gonna love the XL....its the perfect size.
I basically do all my playing using the HX Stomp and in some cases the fantastic S-Gear SW from Michael Scufham. The only additional hw device I really like, is the Groove Loop X2 looper (highly recommended). As a cabinet I ended up with the Fender FR10 - a wonderful piece of kit! That's it.
If L6 ever decides to add capture functionality to Helix it would likely free up DSP resources (in comparisons to running full models), which would especially benefit stomp.
Its the reasonwhy I started watching this channel and ultimately bought one too. Its an amazing piece of gear. I dont even bother with the others.. dont think they'll b anything similar in the near future
Such a beautiful and adorable doggy.
I have so much love for my HX Stomp.
My favourite bit of kit by a long way. I wanted a Fractal FM3 but couldn’t afford it but the Stomp is so good I’m not bothered now.
I never owned a stomp, but I absolutely love my Helix Floor and will never get rid of that. The only thing I haven't found out yet speaking of the reverbs is how to make the reverbs sound as good as my BigSky. Can't get the Hall and Bloom to sound similar. But other than that, I tried a pedalboard setup for a couple of months, but quickly switched back to my Helix 😂
I love the Stomp. I play bass, and I used to use a lovely Darkglass X Ultra bass DI. I used the Stomp to be the rest of my board, for compression, preamp, noise gate, IR and some FX and so forth with the Darkglass in the loop as the 'heart' of the tone. But then I started fiddling around trying to recreate the same tone without the Darkglass in it. To start with I got close, then I ended up with a better sound just from the Stomp on it's own. So the Darkglass was relegated to a compression and easy to adjust EQ section. Then my board go rained on at a festival and my Darkglass died. The Stomp was fine. Brilliant bit of gear. Then they added the model of the Noble Preamp, which is a ruinously expensive yet magnificent bit of kit. Appears one day in my stomp for free. Makes any bass patch sound better. Absolutely superb. There's also such a good selection of bass kit in this thing that puts its competitors to shame. Fender's Tonemaster has nothing for the bass. And they invented the f***ing bass! Look no further folks.
I'm building a mini board with an HX stomp, expression pedal for wah and an extension footswitch to engage tuner/tap tempo. I think you're right about the value for the money being pretty unmatched. I got the black one though not the fancy white version you're waving around.
I agree the HX stomp is awesome and sensational value. For something that you could realistically do any gig in the world with and not feel short changed on quality... It's hard to beat I think.
I guess the other way of looking at it is... The difference between having a guitar and not is the difference between making music and not. A modeller has many practical and creative uses certainly but it's not the fundamental tool that means "we have music".
So I'd see some of the cheap guitars you can get now being more incredible value in terms of what they enable to a wider audience than ever.
I think it's certainly the best practice tool for headphone use I've ever bought. I use the effects loop to input songs in stereo that I'm working on via my phone.
The Stomp's "dynamic" stereo reverbs are especially nice in the livingroom-practice use case.
Compared to the Boss 500 series pedals, for example, the Stomp UI is a dream.
The cab update was so significant line6 could have made it a paid upgrade or kept it from Stomp owners and released the “Stomp 2” with it. That is why I am a Line6 fanboy.
Norm is a legend! Dynamic Hall is one of my favourite reverbs in the world
I bought it when it came out, thinking I might use it in rehearsals a few times in place of Helix floor. As it turned out, I’ve used it on literally hundreds of gigs. It’s a great piece of gear.
yeh it's pure class. i hope they keep supporting it
It really is the Swiss Army Knife of guitar gear… I’d argue the Stomp XL is the better value if buying on the used market. 😝
Ive got a hx stompl XL. I literally dont need anything else. Ive stopped gassing for better gear. It does everything that a guitarist would need. The sounds are awesome and they keep updating it. They have a PROVEN track record for customer service and loyalty.
Gigging Helix LT for last 3 years and I guess am kinda afraid to "downgrade" to Stomp live. But I still got it two months ago to take it for jam sessions, rehearsals or even quick home practice. Love it.
Sorry for your loss. I haven't bought an HX Stomp because it's so old now, there must be a newer one coming soon....but I've been thinking that for a couple years now. Shrug.
I just picked up one together with a tonex already wired up for that so called “dream combo”. THE DAY AFTER I got it, the guy who sold me the pair messaged me with a video about the tonex getting FX. He was gutted - i was very amused . Then I tried them individually and realised the sheer power of both. I love the stomp - I once had a helix but it melted my brain. But this is the right level for me - sounds mint in DI. However I must buy your presets cos i can’t quite get that Eric Johnson lead town……..but that might be that I’m lacking in the fingers department 😂
Thank you for doing reviews of high(er) end gear. I find them interesting and helpful. As you say, there are plenty of people like me buying gear without making a penny from it. I'd say I spend at least $1000 (USD) a year, on average, on my guitar hobby. Also, taxation makes a difference. I spend half the year in a country with 15% VAT and the other half where there is none, so gear irrationally seems a bargain in the latter, as though it was on sale.
My HX Stomp (6 years old, not gigged or abused) has just died. I'm not sure if getting it repaired is going to be economic (the -12v + 12v power rail seems to be at fault). I miss it though. Midi, small form factor, great sound! It's a swiss army knife for music 🙂
Sorry for your loss..
HX stomp is my go to effects. I am using UAFX for amps and HX stomp for pretty much everything else.
Fun Little Sausage!!!
Yes the HX Stomp is Top Class! Line6 created and refined a winner, it is a staple on so many pedalboards. Line6 has been competing with the big dogs, and winning!
Nothing can beat lines hx-stomp or hx-one
I agree man. I'm glad I picked one up when Line 6 bundled it with Helix Native for free!
Never got on with mine. Sounded decent but always felt like maybe 90% as good as other options and I found the UK pretty creativity sapping. Lots of love for them on UA-cam but just didn't hit a home run for me.
I’d love to see you dial in some patches for the POD Express using the new editor. An all in one patch, and a pedal platform patch would be cool.
Even better is the Pod Go if you are willing to sacrifice a little horsepower. Even lower price with the same sounds, larger screen, and expression pedal built in (no need to buy extra midi pedal). If you are someone who just wants some basics, the Pod Go is a no-brainer. I generally only run amp & cab blocks with OD and reverb... occasionally some delay or chorus and it works great!
I love my stomp, the best gear purchase I've ever made. I've since sold all of my amps.
Would like to see you do a tonex one into the stomp video!
Agreed!
I have to agree
YES. add a tonex one for modelling, freeing dsp and 8blocks for crazy fx on the hx stomp and you got a stellar rig for 500. i see em sell for 300. i use it as a fx box, modeller, acoustic rig. synthesizer, faux quadraphonic panner. hope L6 awakens from their sleep and gives us a full dsp follow up in hx stomp format. touchscreen. optional helix floorboard controller. common yamaha let em breathe. hx one and pod go were dissapointing.
With so many multifx coming out I think hx stomp is still to beat, I have not seen a well thought out 3 stomp box with great versatility. The command center is a genius feature like running mulitiple snapshots in a single footswitch. A 2018 product from the future.
I just bought my hx stomp recently and I didn’t feel like I bought an Iphone 6 in 2024, the tonex One on my fx loop makes it even better. What made me really buy this thing is bcoz I love recreating the tones of my favorite artists like plini, jakub, mayer, but specifically the Mk.gee tones thanks to the Retro Reel fx. Wish they could add something like a rainger reverb in the future and wish to come up with my unique sound with the combination of those tones that inspired me.
Just needs a smartphone app and a touchscreen now like the Hotone Stage 2 unit. Hopefully this will come in the next iteration.
Why does it need a smartphone app? You can control every parameter, access every setting, save and rename all presets and favorites, and program every command center command all with the controls on the stomp, and usually I personally find it quicker to use the physical controls than HX edit
@@IanHarsh That's true but the screen is quite small and other companies are producing touchscreens, apos/Bluetooth and more uo to date functionality. Changing times is all.
I’ve thought about getting one but it’s so old I’m afraid I’ll buy one and then they will put out a new version soon lol. I’ve been holding out for an ox box v2 as well lol
HX Stomp is the ultimate piece of gear in the last 10 years for guitarist - now imagine what would happen once HX Stomp starts capturing Amps - that's it - the rest will need to rest. 😂 - I'm sure the next version of HX Stomp will start capturing amps - by the way I had the Helix Full version also - but I always found the Stomp more practical and right sized.
Agreed. John, could you request Line 6 add internal assignable LFOs? Sine, triangle, square and random for instance? It should be easy to implement with little or no impact on cpu. Years ago, even the Roland GP16 had these.
They're discontinued now but the Atomic Amplifire is really good .. especially the 6-button version. Really great models and very high quality .. Atomic should have stuck with the hardware and just kept uprating the software (like Line 6)
Depending on what you need you could definitely make an argument for the Poly Beebo and the Empress Zoia too. I've owned all 3 and the Stomp's the one I ended up selling - that probably wouldn't have been the case if I were playing gigs regularly though
Interesting I use the stomp and Zoia as my back up rig. Zoia fills in the gaps the stomp doesn’t do very well
@@peterjessop1878 I can totally see that. I've not been gigging for a couple of years and my board has become about self accompaniment. I basically have a Zoia plugged into a poly beebo with a boss angry driver in front. Between the Zoia sampler, the Beebos amp Sims and both of their abilities to create infinite weird looping ideas and the boss creating the fundamental tone it's basically a playstation for your ears with 3 pedals. If you can think of it you can probably do it. As a bonus the Beebo and Zoia midi sync automatically with zero fiddling. You don't need a pc at any point.
@@distrustfulmonkey2832 I’ve owned a Beebo too. I thought the Nam Amps were great and all the mutable instruments stuff was good too just struggled with the additional latency it added. In terms of the Stomp I don’t love it either. Hardware is excellent but it doesn’t inspire me the way a fractal modeller does hence why it’s only back up.
I’m about to sell mine. Got a quad cortex and its usability and simplicity suits me better
Would be nice with a comparison video with the Ampero II stage
I've been looking at the Nano Cortex but have kept look back at the HX stomp as it would probably be better for me. My major issue has been it's 8 year old tech now and feel like it's due an update. Seems that I am probably worrying about "nothing" and it's still a great option. I have also had a hunt for a used one and there are so few and those there are all close to new pricing which says those who have them are mostly holding on to them!
I agree, the Best Pedal I've ever owned by a wide margin. I purchased mine almost 4 years ago, and still haven't managed to use all its numerous features.
Just a few weeks ago, I stumbled upon using the "Output Node" at the end of the Signal Chain to smooth the high frequencies and thicken the overall tone. 😎
These have gone up in price like crazy! I bought one for my brother during covid, £400
Today, these are £520
They seem to really have heald their own against the competitors.
How do you ask for a gift back?😅
I bought mine second hand for $400 US dollars in late 2019/early 2020. It’s wild how they’ve gone up in value
Hi John, your tone always sounds great with no digital harshness. What cuts for you use?
I think the biggest factor is approx 6kHz high cut on the cab.
I got rid of my Iridium and added a second stomp, I agree has to be the best piece of gear for value
Do you really find it better than the boss gt1000core? Could you compare them directly? I know its personal taste, but I would say that the boss tone sounds better and feel more like the analog thing
Kemper - take notes!
Hopefully, this is a subtle signal that John has an angle on another update coming soon. Version 3.7 was back on Nov. 16, 2023. Always a good day when that happens…. Hoping for a blues driver model
I agree. I pretty much have 3 "rigs" I use recently.
Rig 1 is a pedalboard with my favorite drives which I use in conjunction with an amp, usually a katana 100 as a clean-ish pedal platform.
Rig 2 is hxstomp, with exp pedal and hotone midi pedalboard, plus 1 or 2 pedals.
Rig 3 is just the good old original ampero, (4 buttons) which fits in my gigbag for when I'm lazy want to carry everything in 1 trip or rehearsals.
Sometimes I wish the hxstomp was as slim as the ampero, I'd definitely use it more if it was, but I always feel like I need at least one more button.
I'm actually excited about the new ampero 2, at that size, with s/r, mic in, dual paths, and looks like profiling capabilities, it might take the cake.
HX Stomp is the GOAT. I just wish it had more processing power.
I really want an updated HX Stomp. I want to add an HX Stomp to my board to replace the 6 drive pedals I'm using. It would be smaller and have more options.
I know Line 6 they aren't releasing anything new, but I know people aren't buying them simply because they are afraid of buying it, and a new one coming out a month later.
Is there Any update soon?
Fully Agree! Bang for buck it Genuinely Can't be beat and in terms of experimental stuff when jamming with my Fractal mates they're alway astonished at the weird n wacky out there sounds from it and the quality of tones. the Fractal is no slouch but £2500 to £1100 from FM3 for £500 or less on ebay, reverb etc you can get the HX Stomp it's Awesome!!!
Sincerest condolences for your loss John Nathan, losing a loved one is no easy thing. Much appreciation & Respect for never shilling and being yerkindself \m/
I do feel Lin6 may need to adjust its pricing a bit for future relevance, or do a complete update / overhaul on the hardware level. On the other hand: why would they? Just to compete for those guitarists that switch platforms every time something new comes around without actually making any new sounds with the new gear? L6 does show what can be achieved by continually optimizing hardware / software capabilities. Personally, I've been thinking about an HX stomp as a (post) fx unit for a long time but never took the plunge. The second hand prices are persistently on the high side imo.
FRACTAL GO NOW FOR THE HX STOMP ;)
How are the clean sounds ?? So far I haven’t found a digital amp that can do a great clean sounds yet :S - so please demonstrate❤
I've got the full floor unit. Still amazed at the updates Line 6 have squeezed in.I still hope for a more powerful v2.
I just got hold of a Valeton gp200lt and first impressions are really positive - would love to hear your thoughts on it against the HX stomp.
FYI, re: aliasing -- captures should not have aliasing unless the captured unit had aliasing (ie, you were capturing something digital) or the audio interface was badly designed. The extra high frequencies get cut by a LPF on the audio interface before it hits the converter, assuming those frequencies made it past the cab and mic (if used).
Re: Digitech Drop, I have one and I feel the latency on it as well. From the numbers I could find online, Poly Capo has less latency than the Digi Drop. FWIW, the latency feels more manageable through a cab in a live situation than in the studio.
Re: best of all time -- I agree. I put it above the XL because the compact form factor is so much nicer for pedalboards.
The day of Hx Stomp is coming to an end. Hotone is putting profiling in their Ampero II Stage. For the same price, you get more utility. Triple DSP chip architecture, Touch screen, up to 12 blocks a patch, 7 switches, USB C connection, profiling, Bluetooth everything, drum machine, XLR Outs, vocal processing with XLR in, dedicated switch to change modes, up to 192k audio over USB 8in8out. It keeps going... Only thing HxStomp has on it at that point is the number of models possibly.
I am very much aligned with you.
@@fleetadmiralsidiqi1941 Even the Pod Express presents a better value at this point. The HX Stomp should cost less than the Tone X.
That's great but Helix Native combined with the HX Stompf is still absolutely cool and unique. I paired mine with a Tonex One and I couldn't imagine anything better for a relatively cheap price. If you want better effects, I would rather go up to a Fractal device.
@@scentia_est I agree. Helix Native is very nice when it comes to familiarity. Still have to pay for it though. It's good that you get a discount for having a registered Helix product. Would have been better value if it were free for Helix hardware owners.
You're not wrong, BUT..... will hotone have the same support along the line though?, will they keep giving updates after 3 to 5 years? 🤔
I can't decide between this and a midi switcher or a tonex and hx fx, too many options now days - or go fractal but if JNC sticks with the stomp over fractal for most things that says something
I want this exact hoodie in Enigmatic Orange can you make that possible
Best value? Hard to argue, but a Tonex (now with FX)...I think the Tonex might be the new king of value...and imo, it sounds a little bit better (Dumble Collection! with Amalgam pedal captures)
You should be getting paid for every time you talk about the HX Stomp 😂 I bet tons of people got one just because of you. Definitely part of the reason I got one.
That intro jam was fucking stellar
Hey John...Rumor has it there's a new Fractal unit about to be unleashed...an effects only unit called the VP4, virtual Pedalboard. Know anything ?
Is it better to have a consistent delay tone throughout songs in a set except in regard to changing the bpm to that of each song? Or does the audience benefit from different delay models and tone changes between every song? Isn’t that a bit jarring and breaks the illusion and glamour of the experience? Anyone else have an experience on that?
I own the Ampero stomp and it gives yhe HX stomp a run for the money at even more value. Thoughts?
I don't own both, but I've heard the ampero live and it feels like it relies too much on IRs to get a good sound, I am currently running my HX stomp on stock cabs, not even using IRs anymore.
Besides that.... they clearly based their design on the already 5+ years old Stomp design so it would be so wierd if they could not compete with it
@@Fernando-ry5qt stock cabs better than IRs?
IDK
Ah. Just made a comment about Ampero too. I think if you want to go dollar for dollar and compare HxStomp against the Ampero II Stage, then the Hotone really starts to look good but even the Stomp has a lot of the same features of Stage at a lower price so even that seems competitive...hmmm
call me crazy, but I rather boss gt 1000 core. Its the most powerful unit for the price and size
Indeed 🔥
Easily beat pedal ever 💯🎸🔥
If they upgraded it with more DSP and enhanced the UI, it would kill off all the latest modeller releases...
Come on Line 6 - don't make him sell another one of his dog's legs so he can feed the family!😢
I just can't deal with the MASSIVE level difference between presets.
Line 6 owes you back pay. You’ve sold a ton of their units for them, lol.
I’d rather the Iridium personally
Do you think it's not too old? It's been a while since it got released and im just wondering how much better the new stuff is
@@giles3211 is a Klon too old? Is a tube screamer too old? In my opinion, good gear is good gear. The iridium sounds great and better than I’ve heard most mics sound on electric guitar amps. Worst case scenario, use the cab sim turned off and as a top tier preamp/modeler
Is a great piece of gear, many times crossed my mind FM3 and think is not worth it, invest more wisely!!
I got a bit overexcited then thinking there was a new update out. 😕
Okay i’ll have it. Can you give me a price for postage?
It's still too expensive for my tastes. Especially for outdated tech. It needs a huge price cut.
@@giles3211 The profiles are no where near as accurate as modern profiling, it's over a decade old, and the effects have long been a complaint for not living up to their real life counter parts. You can get a Tone X for $399. The HX Stomp should be around $350 at this point. Any more than that is robbery.
We're in a weird bubble where even the Pod Express presents a better value.
no thanks, my vote goes to the Boss GT-1000 core
Nope it’s not the best, been there, done that over with. Worst user friendly ever
As far as " silent stage" goes, why are professional musicians bowing to this trend pushed by manufacturers and professional sound engineers? Sound reinforcement is there to assist the performing artist..., not the other way around. Show some backbone and nip this odious trend in the bud, before it is too late, and live music is just a regulated industry controlled by local government hacks, and unable to be opposed. If you want to play rock music, why go cap in hand to the castrators of the very spirit of rock, and their hangers on in the live engineering clique. I have no problem with anyone using anything in the line level, no amp area, but only if it is their choice! If you go along, blindly, with anything imposed on you, you are encouraging further restrictions on actual sincere artists who may choose a different approach. Live sound is there as a service to the onstage musician, so they can make a better result for the listening audience. No way should we allow the constant encroachment on guitarists ( or drummers)'s freedom of choice in the expression of their music. Again, live sound is there to enhance the sound made by musicians. If you're incapable of moderating your onstage sound in relation to the other band members, then you shouldn't be onstage, you should be in your practice space learning the basics of hiw to play in a rock band. For many years I heard bands where the guitarists were far too loud,( and often out of tune). This wasn't caused by lack of line level presets you can monitor and feed to front of house, it was caused by people just being stupid and not learning their craft before going out in public. Of course there were no tuners when I started playing live, but if you have such an under-developed ear that you can't tune ( and be the same range of other instruments) then you shouldn't be there.
It would b3 good to see you combine tonex with the hx stomp if you havent already