Back then they did so without ulterior motives. They wanted to tell a cool story. These days it's different. Someone at Sony told them to make a genderswap for the series for sure, because that's the modern thing to do.
@Xaito why would it be any different for sucker punch. They've always wanted to tell a good story. They never had an agenda, no reason they would have it now.
@@mrmouse9476 Companies are rarely defined by a single person. People leave, people join. Management or investors have changing demands. Many big names that put out some of the best games went woke and are in different stages of going broke. Why wouldn't SP?
How many of those other companies you speak of were made ambassadors of a part of a country? This is the key difference I keep trying to point out. Sucker Punch has far more to lose here than say a Naughty Dog. Having been honored the way they have in Japan is a big deal. That's guaranteed sales of your game in their country. Is it possible that SP could jeopardize that? Sure. I'm just not willing to bet on it just yet. Need more info.
@@Xaito because there is no evidence of this. Tell me if the major people being GOT have left, or have changed "agendas". They have a hell of a track record. And there is nothing in the trailer to suggest the game would be compromised by people's beliefs. As much as there are companies that have gone bad, many have stayed the same and improved. Fromsoft, Santa Monica, first party nintendo developers, the studio behind ASTRO bot, the studio behind black myth wukong, bg3 devs, and many more have continued to improve and deliver on their games. Having a women as a main protag doesn't equal woke, there are many awesome female video game leads like Samus and Laura croft. They are good because they are from good developers that prioritize good gamplay and story first before there beliefs. And sicker punch's record proves the same so far.
There were no female samurai and no female ronin. And the women who were were probably killed/bested by men 10 times out of 10. People were upset about Yusuke, but this is pretty much the same thing. A female protag doesn’t suit the setting/time period. Taking out hoards of enemies twice her size? Pretty immersion breaking to be honest
@@johannsebastianbach3501 dude just listen to yourself, hate the female protagonist because you can't fantasize yourself being it. Also you are wrong, female japanese warriors were a real thing (Omna- Bugeisha/Omna -musha) and screaming that women never existed in the history of war is just incredibly cowardly and misogynistic. Grow up
@@johannsebastianbach3501 There were many female samurai and while many didn't go on the battlefield Gozen Tomoe ended up collecting the heads of warriors she defeated in the battle of Awazu. Just pointing that out because that means she wasn't bested...Which doesn't mean it won't be woke, but from what we know yet it isn't.
honestly it's WAY to early to judge this game i have no problem with a swordswoman also i looked it up apparently Japan did have women who used swords they're called Onna-Musha which must be what she is
@@captainbuzzkill4658 yea, and? advocating for equality and telling white racist incels they should start respecting women is something that everyone should do.
Why were there any lesbian samurais in the first place why does every female character in games these days have to be lesbian. Do you really believe there were lesbians roaming in Japan those days I really really doubt it but as usual you weirdos love it while non weirdos just want a normal f**king game that doesn’t have to mention ones sex like we don’t f**king care it’s not important to the game or story so why insert it? Seriously stop living under a rock stop being a weirdo for once in your life
yea it's not called "Ghost Of Tsushima 2" because it's not a sequel to the first game it's a completely different game/story, but i do hope we do get to see Jin in someway or form.
Probably not conaidering this is set in an entierly different time period, in an emtierly different part of japan. I for one am super excited to see a story about Ainu, though. That's so rare.
Certain crowd is now hiding behind calling everything woke or DEI. When really they have some deep seeded prejudices. I was raised on Anime, 2000s Toonami, Martial Art Flicks. And there has always been badass women warriors. Besides Ghost of Tsushima had women warriors in it helping Jin. I am starting to see both sides like to whine. I will not let somebody tell me what's woke or not woke when I have my own hearing and sight, to judge for myself. UA-camrs are now making money hating on everything that comes out. I mean everything. Grown men crying over Snow White, Barbie and The Little Mermaid being woke. Really? People now know what woke products look like. Stop trying to tell us what your definition of woke is and trying to kill a game before it comes out with no evidence to support your claim.
Anime & martial art flicks designed intentionally to be edgy or goofy af is not the same thing as woke subversion, especially made by foreigners not western woke activists.
@@shadymaestro same dude it’s different if they’re powerful for no reason. But they have to have good writing and have an actual story. All we can do is wait and see
Im cool with Jin not returning. His story is completed. He birthed the idea of a rogue warrior who bends the sacred code of honor for justice, and paid the ultimate price for it. Now his legacy continues with a female character and im all up for it
But imagine, a grand battle against the Shogun. Kickstarts the change in the samurai way. The birth of shinobis. All taking place on the mainland. Come on, you wouldn't want to play that Jin game? But yea, I'm definitely down for multiple unique Ghost origin story games. This is looking like it's becoming a massive franchise like AC.
@@LeoLeeGaminghonestly I hope not. Assassin's creed games became too repetitive. I think game companies that make a lot of games based on the same concept should make the games very far apart like Rockstar, or make the games vastly different while retaining the same mechanics like from soft. Doing otherwise makes the game feel less unique and more repetitive. Look at far cry for example. Every game more or less plays the same since far cry 3, adding more ways to play like helicopters and other stuff doesn't make it feel less repetitive, and if anything can make it feel like the game is having an identity crisis. Resident evil did the same thing until resident evil 6 flopped hard. Then they made 7 and 8 which are both masterpieces, both still have the same mechanics however the experiences are vastly different not because of the story, but because of how the player is forced to engage with the game from running speed to the types of weapons available to ammo scarcity etc. It would be too hard trying to make the next game just as scary or somehow even scarier than 7, so they made it like resident evil 4, however they still included house beneviento in 8 which was arguably more horrifying than 7 as a whole. That's just how I feel about it at least. I feel like making more ghost games that just have more weapons, or making one where they eventually redo the combat mechanics wouldn't make sense. If they want to try something different, just do what fromsoft did with blood borne and elden ring.
Well I certainly don't want SP to mirror AC. Just as big, but over time. Not a new Ghost game every other year. At the same time, I wouldn't mind them doing something completely new. Or revisiting Infamous.
14:32-17:53 THANK YOU. All of the people who are bitching about a female protag seem to have completely forgotten about all of this when they most likely thought those characters were super badass. And ESPECIALLY forgot that Yuna is the biggest catalyst, if not the sole reason, that Jin was even able to become the Ghost in the first damn place. You've earned this sub.
I understand historical inaccuracies, but is that even Suckerpunches goal, to make a historically accurate game? The director when talking about GoT even said that they weren't trying to make a historically accurate game, but a game that celebrates Japanese things. We dont know anything about this games story, but are we immediately going to say this game is woke?
@@LeoLeeGaming Because it will be, because it's current day and that happens everywhere these days. The time they launched development on this one was around the all time high of woke things getting made. We now see the first results dropping on our door steps and they're failing.
@@LeoLeeGaming Companies are not like you good old buddy. They can change radically with due to different reasons like key persons leaving the company, investors or management demands etc. Several large companies have gone down that route, why couldn't or wouldn't Sucker Punch? There were hints of woke in the first one, like lady Adachi being secretly Bi or some random dude NPC in the middle of nowhere dropping that he's got a boyfriend like it's a normal thing in ye olde Japan. People just ignored it because the rest of the game wasn't tainted. It'd be a happy surprise if this is not the case, but they certainly raised the usual red flags, especially coupled with the choice of the VA for the protag.
I'm replying GoT after learning more about Japanese history... and GoT is 90% bullshit. Katanas and haiku haven't been invented yet. The armor is futuristic. The third act is set in a fantasy winter land that doesn't make sense on Tsushima Island. Samurai had zero problems being dishonorable and sneaky during this time. It's just set during a historical event and most of the BS is the kind of stuff you find in Japanese media and comforts to the standard conventions of historical fiction. If GoY is channeling the many, many female revenge flicks that litter Japanese media, it'll be doing the same. The other day I was watching a woman from around 1910 take out a large group of men in a sword fight... while naked, because 70s. Around the same time, Meiko Kaji was doing this fully clothed in many different historical eras. It's a concept that has been popular throughout my 55 years.
I just dont like how we wont play as jin, lady masako was a great female warrior in the first game (cant remember if she was refered to as samurai, she wore their armor and used their tactics though), i feel they can give this protag a good story, just dont force modern politics in it.
@@thomasmason730 yea, they never explicitly referred to Masako as a samurai. I have a lot of faith in Sucker Punch. They have done no wrong all these years and multiple games. Plus they have a deep respect for Japanese culture and work with Japanese historians.
Yup- she oviously isnt samurai- not even considered ronin- she is here for revenge we hear. im sure we will find out why she has picked up the sword- probably from her murdered father, who taught her to fight for fe And nobody can say some crap like the samurai wouldnt let her carry a sword- she isnt even in japan she is on the outskirts in an obviously far less civilized area than the mainland with their big armies and shogun.
The sword probably also plays a role in why she is wanted. There are historical accounts of female warriors that took up the sword though. Maybe not this same time period, but Sucker Punch doesn't strictly follow the time period anyway.
@@LeoLeeGaming Exactly. Tsushima isn't trying to be a historical game, it's design was to be an homage to Kurosawa cinema. I suspect Sucker Punch will refer to Lady Snowblood at some point when talking about development of Yotei.
@@Boredomislife75 first one had lesbos, female samurais, anti-establishment rhetoric, anti-colonial plot, disdain for conservative ideology, and so on. How can it get more woke?
Look at all the shills at the comment section. None of them have the courage to talk about the cv is crazy woke activist. None of them want to talk abou dev team photo where all the men in dev team were replaced. Either you are a shill or a coward. Maybe both
I know all the hardcore gamers will be disappointed but its just the a trailer. I always loved the Ghost of Tsushima game and im definetly buying Ghost of Yotei. Fuck the polotics and everything i just want the gameplay and story to be good. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GENDER PROTAGONIST CUZ IM A GROWN ASS MAN
Well good for you, on your moral high horse. I on the other hand do care and you're not going to change my mind by trying to shame me for having a preference.
So its woke cuz a woman has a katana? Its based off of historical events like the furst one but like the first one its fiction. Sounds like pre judging. As long as she has a cool story and the gane has good combat ile enjoy it
@@chaoticneutral7528 this is why I said in the video that I dislike both extremes of the argument. Now even if we get a female lead from a studio that has done that before, the game is called woke, dei, etc... the first GoT game even had multiple female warriors that everyone loved. We have to keep in mind that Sucker Punch also deeply respects Japanese history. I have faith.
Well she wears a mask and aren’t Shogun’s samurai’s or are they a mix of samurai and ninja? My concern is will she have the same or better of the sneak shadow kill abilities as the previous game.
I'm not disappointed because you play as a woman, I'm disappointed because you aren't playing as Jin anymore. I always imagined they'd continue his story and make a direct sequel where he goes to mainland Japan.
@@riff.machine Yea, I don't think his story is anywhere near done. I suspect they are waiting for after the Ghost movie to give us a Jin sequel. This is also probably why they yet again skipped over the mainland.
If you knew sucker punches history, you would've known that they always want to make new origin stories. They can always go back and continue older stories. The next ghost game might not even be with Atsu, but again a new protag.
@@LeoLeeGaming long time ago, a young samurai of the Sakia clan fought agenst the mongol army, along side his uncle. After there defeat agenst the army, Jin took on a new role, as the ghost! Killing mongrols from the shadows, striking fear in to their eyes!
Why are they all female then? The latest game in every series I can think of besides Space marine 2 is female. Zelda, GTA6, Last of Us, Uncharted 5, Resident Evil, Ghost of Yotei, Witcher 4.... it's just weird. If anyone is smart enough to possess pattern recognition, they will notice it. Maybe you dont care, but someone cares a lot. And this game started out being about Jin, and was forced to change for some reason. Im not touching it.
movies before play ghost of yotei for reference: - lady snowblood - zatoichi (2003 version there's brother and sister story seeking revenge disguise as entertainer using shamisen hidden blade and its snare to choke) - ichi - azumi all of these japanese movies are revenge stories themed. i think the closest to ghost of yotei is lady snowblood. kill bill inspired by this movie
I Say make her Character a “Half-Breed” (Similar to Connor in assassins Creed 3) her farther Being a Samurai Lord & Mother being one of “The Ainu People of Hokkaido” bring awareness to Japans Equivalent of “The Native People”
I feel like as soon as a woman was the confirmed protagonist, people went looking and digging to justify a reason to call it "woke". I have never seen this much outcry about a VOICE ACTOR having different views and opinions from them, that they feel the need to shit on a game that we know nothing about. A voice actors opinions online should not matter😭
I need to see more, can't tell if it's Woke or not from what they have shown. The good thing about this is that maybe, just maybe, Sucker Punch can show Ubisoft how to use a female lead without making it woke. As for the story goes, usually I like stand-alone stories, but part of me wants her to be a descendant of Jin and Yuna, that was we know they ended together and a new tradition of being protectors of the people was born.
I think the graphics are much more detailed. I watched it in 4k on my OLED though. It's definitely not as vibrant as the first game. Seems they toned that down... for better or worse...
Even though it wasn't very common for women to be somewhere that was a few in human history secondly maybe she's the daughter of a samurai that train her that a young age
@@LeoLeeGaming what was your favorite ending choice? *Spoilers y'all* I had to fulfill my uncle's wish. It is what he needed and lived for. I couldn't spit in his face like that, and walk away.
@@McManthony21 I liked the honoring him ending the most. It was one of the very rare moments Jin showed his human emotions. But I truly believe the other option is the true ending. It's his final act of letting go of the old ways, signaling his full transition into the Ghost.
@@LeoLeeGaming well chalk it up to fantastic writing! You make it sound better than it felt when I did it once. Here is to the future and getting to 100 percent the next one 5 times 😁
I think it would be cool if this is a descendant of Jin Sakai and that The game there'll be like in somewhat not or flashbacks where you play as Jin Sakai and showing what happened or they could could save the idea for like a ghost of tsushima 2 for another game.
I know I have ghosts of tsushima 2 in the comment at like it's a separate game and to be honest this frankly is Ghost of yotei, to be honest I'd be excited and happy if they said this would just be like a spin-off and then ghost of tsushima 2 will be another thing entirely
Honestly, a bit nervous, but still can see how female mc could be tied in to the lore, but still, nervous on how they would handle the protagonist and the tone of the game.
Subscribed! Disagree with Jin having more story to tell tho. The game was about what he did to become the ghost and how he became the legend. Is he supposed to be the ghost of a new place now? He just goes around, game after game, being a ghost in the same period, but at different locations, fighting new enemies somehow, every sequel? He's the Ghost of Tsushima. That's his title, that's his legend. I'm so happy SP chose not to shoe-horn him into some corny mainland hijinx just to squeeze a sequel out of him. I'd rather it be more like Avatar, where the ghost is inherited across eras to help in times of turmoil. I liberated and explored every inch of tsushima multiple times and I truly feel like Jin's story was complete.
@@ToothpasteJuice I have this idea that when Jin defeats the Shogun, him and Yuna initiate the change in the way of the samurai. Starting to incorporate Shinobi. In reality, samurai employed Shinobi. Some were samurai themselves. Also, they didn't actually have problems with fighting "dirty". But hey, even if we don't get a Jin sequel, we have the movie to look forward to. Thanks!
There is a difference between when they make a female main character and a female side character when they do side characters as female it is really good or really bad but main female character they make them overpowered with no character development whatsoever
The comment about watching an American samurai flick in English rather than Japanese... There's a Miike Takashi Western called Sukiyaki Western Django (cameo by Tarantino) which follows on the logic that a Western (even one that's set in Asia) should be in English. Comedy ensues as only a few actors seem to be reasonably fluent in English. You will need subtitles. Personally it's a judgment call for me as something like FF XVI and Metaphor: Refantazio annoy me so much with the cliche UK accents that I turn on Japanese just to avoid it. Stellar Blade is in Korean because the English VA is so iffy. Nier Automata is in English because I just didn't feel like reading the dialog in a bullet hell game. I picked Japanese for GoT because 99.9% of samurai media I've watched are in Japanese and English voices never sound right to me. Same deal for anime now, the few times I watch anime, but the Persona 3, 4, & 5 gang are grandfathered in as English. The movie Death Of Stalin gets high marks for a wide variety of English and American accents instead of just using a Russian accent, although that might have been out of place were it not a comedy. There's so many elements that go into my choice of audio... Adam Savage likes to recommend watching bad movies in a foreign language as reading the dialog makes bad writing more tolerable.
Those are fine reasons. The reason I stated a dislike for are the ones who say "It's more authentic in Japanese." Also, I care that the GoT English VAs also had their likeness used and their performances were mocapped. You are getting their literal facial expressions as they acted those lines. And many of them are actors that are doing VA work. Aside from that, I think GoT's Japanese VAs are terrible. Specifically Jin's. This isn't an anime and he made it sound like anime. And the times he let out a cry in both the Taka scene and kill ending... wtf was that? Lol. But to each their own.
@LeoLeeGaming while I'm learning Japanese (so very slowly), I have a hard time detecting bad acting in foreign films. I can spot Troll II levels of awful acting, but I know for a fact many of the K-pop singers turned actors in the K-dramas I've watched aren't always good... and I really can't tell most of the time. See the Adam Savage take as reading a movie does cover a fair amount of sins. For me, I think it's just I'm aware of what various Japanese archetypes are supposed to sound like, so Jin has the right tone for a samurai, even if his acting is too anime. It's sort of like I knew what Japanese Darth Vader was going to sound like before I heard it. Those audio tones help dial me into a story set in Japan. Likewise I'm starting to pick up on Korean vocal tones and can't watch an English dub anymore. But I agree with you that the authenticity argument sounds like wank to me. Whatever helps the story work for you. There are no wrong answers.
A neutral zone is definitely the place to be when it comes to jusging video games. It's wild to think that people could consider having a female lead in a game as woke now. Laura Croft and Samus Aron are some of the most iconc video game characters of all time, and embody the quintessential 'badass female protagonist'. Don't see people bitching about them. Just enjoy games for what they are; an art form used to tell stories. With how Sucker Punch did Tsushima, I trust them enough to give them a chance with Yotei. Let 'em cook.
Best opinion video about a video game i have seen in a long time. Very objective. Thanks Edit: i disagree with you only on the language topic. Even if the game is American, the setting is in Japan. Watching that setting and listening to English freaks me out lol.
Amazing video mate. You can tell this is a franchise you are passionate about and it was good to hear all your points about that game. You even pointed out things in the trailer I completely missed. Cannot wait to watch your let's plays of this game. 👍
I thought they were going to take jin to the mainland for part 2 of the game Even horizon zero dawn had its own part 2, where they took Aloy to forbidden west, and the game was still great to play both games
Yes, I won’t play a game just because there is a female mc in it. It’s my money and my time and if a game or movie does not cater to my fantasy or escapism(yes, that’s what media is for) , I won’t buy it. I’m sure that this game has excellent gameplay, I hope it does well, but I won’t play it. It doesn’t do it for me. ( this doesn’t come from a hatred of women, I love women, I have a girlfriend but I don’t want to be a woman, neither in real life nor in a game)
This game does not exist in a Vacuum! All most, all of the Games lately have been Female leads. And it is Fact that 90%+ of the Potential Customers are Male! There is a reason that Barbie dolls are Female and not Male. There is a Reason why the Book " fifty shades of Gray" has a Female lead, there is a reason why the Book "Hunger Games" is a Female Lead. Because Women are the Target audience. And if Blxckrxck would pay all the Publishers to only accept Books about Male Protagonists, than the Target Audience Women, would be Angry too. Probably cry Soxism od Pxtriacj. It is also not as if there wasnt Blxckrxck spending big Money for these componys to check the Boxes! My problem is that it would be easy to make us Choose beetween Male or F., change up the Dialoge a little. But no they made it exclusive Female on purpose (probably DEI Money). Ok so im going to reflect that dicision with my Purchasing Choice and im going to Critisise them too. And for the Peopel that justify it with the First Game not having a Chr. Choise either. I will say yes, but the Target Audience is Male. That also why Eat, prey, love or Mama Mia are also Female leads because theyre tageting Female audiences! Also Minus Points because we dont get to see Portugues!
But...the anti-woke crowd was literally bullied for years with game with ACTUAL WOKE content, they have right to be upset it might be another one, because nowadays we getting bombarded by woke content, what do you expect?
@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id the Anti-Woke crowd are absolutely justifiable in their concerns, are you dense? The entire industry was compromised pushing this nonsense.
If you're woke you support Child mutilation Child killing You actively defend pedophiles You are actively racist. So yea.. why would anybody rational support that?
I've never played the first one but never heard a single bad thing about it. So even though it may seem that the studio gone woke bc of female mc, they have credit. So fans might still get a compelling main character, interesting story and good gameplay. I sure hope thats whats going to happen. Because I'm locking forward to play both of the "ghost of" games. (English not perfect but hope you get the idea)
I'm not disappointed at all that it's a woman, besides playing a woman never bothered me as long as she's well written and interesting no worries, but it's rather on the side of the actress who must look at who for the time being is really a woke activist, but I hope she doesn't have too much impact on the game, which I've been waiting for 5 years now.
i dont think the problem is that protagonist is a female, we have great games like that. But i think its the main character actress IS WOKE. and ppl are afraid that those idea will be pushed onto the game. we dont know yet, but its something to consider .
When I recorded this video, nobody posted about the actor yet. There were lots already calling the game out. But yes, it got worse once the actor was revealed.
@@LeoLeeGaming yeahh i just saw this was from a few days ago, sorry just watched it now. Lets hope for the best because im like you, i have no issue with main character being a woman, just hope they are able to separate real life and work life and not let that spill over to anything on the game. we shall see! thanks for the reply!
imo, the continuation of Jin story make sense, but as a video game, it might not be fun for the players if wehave 2 game about the war with Mongol invasion back to back. it will be stale and boring real fast
I don't think they should tackle the actual second invasion. Just more about dealing with the Shogun and initiating a change in that world's samurai way. Plus it would be fun having to fight against samurai. It'll be like all the Ronin duels from the first game, just more of it.
Yea, I made this video before people discovered who the VA and face model was. There were definitely still many comments about going female. Now that the VA is known, it seems to have shifted to a focus on the actor. I will still place my focus and faith in Sucker Punch. I highly doubt they would do anything to jeopardize their relationship with Japan. They helped repair a Torii gate in Tsushima and were highly honored by Japan for it.
You guys just don't get it. Its not because she's a female, its because they gender swap the already established main character. Almost all of our beloved female leads were ORIGINAL, they didn't take someones place. And with the current gaming landscape, swapping leads is a Red flag!!
They didn't gender swap the main character this clearly isn't a sequel to ghost of tsushima it's a new story with a new character this is not the case of them turning a male character into a female for no reason
@@mikeswift1236 as I've said with todays gaming landscape replacing the lead is a read flag. If tsushima didn't exist then you would be right that people are jumping to conclusions if they still call it woke. Right now its a coin toss
@@Gladissims same universe, sakai's universe, jin is the ghost, they replaced the ghost and they put an activist to play the ghost in this economy! i dunno what to tell you, im not saying the game is definitively agenda driven, but the sign is absolutely present. its the strat piggy backing of a successful ip. if tsushima didn't exist then i would agree people are jumping to conclusions.
@@galaxybrainjimmy1520 Well, considering the story they want to tell, reusing Jin wouldn't even have made much sense. There is absolutely no good reason for him to be there, and I for one, am glad they did not shoehorn him in to appease people like you. As for her inheriting the title... Why not? "The Ghost" is a concept anyone can take on. It's not inherently tied to only Jin. I bet you would not have complained if she'd been male.
I am not convinced it is woke because there is a female lead we don’t know nothing yet she didn’t have any dialogue in the trailer we don’t know what her personality is. And the controversy with the actress it shouldn’t be a problem as long as she keeps her activism believes out of the way. She should be fine in the game. Sorry I used the word woke I don’t know what else to call that kind of stuff plus the left came up with it calling that stuff it now they don’t like when we point it out when they behave as such.
@@MurderWeaponLimited you can recognize a intentional behavior when it comes to feminism it is the over masculine behavior of female characters and them making men seem like imbeciles or evil while the woman has no flaws like they did with captain marvel and Wonder Woman.
Its like they want Lara Croft as a Female Main Charakter anymore in Tomb Raider they want a Male Charakter for the first Time in the Tomb Raider franchise Erika Ishii and Atsu are different Charakters i dont care about Erika Ishii and i dont know her and thats good for me🤷🏾
If I did that for every single actor in media that I consume, I'd likely have nothing left to enjoy. My faith has nothing to do with the actor's personal life... my faith lies in Sucker Punch.
While these are all good points, I still say I'm going to be cautious. I've been burnt by western developers far too many times. I loved GOT but I can't give them the benefit of a doubt yet. I already have a problem with Atsu's face and voice actor already and some of the employees but I'm not going throw this game under the bus until more information comes out.
I'm putting faith into SP because I know they deeply respect the Japanese history. They worked side-by-side with Japanese historians for the first game. I have faith that they wouldn't do anything to upset Japanese culture and history. Hell, SP was honored on the island of Tsushima in real life.
@@fnspidey3825 oh they definitely have new people as they were hiring lots of positions after the first game. Nate Fox is still creative director though.
Just let it cook. If the story justifies it then let’s see. Better than making up a story of a “black samurai” which turned out to be just someone’s pipe dream and making it come off as historical facts.😂
Yasuke's real, and has been featured in Japanese media a dozen times over. I'm pretty convinced that the outrage over AC Shadows is just about a black man climbing up in the world with people that gave him a chance (Like the Oda Clan), unlike how the Western World lied to millions of Africans about "uplifting" them from the Stone Age, only to torment and kill them by the millions.
The first was diverse and had accurate representation for the time period, people can call that woke but I call that accurate representation, hopefully yotei will as well I am excited
The big empty open spaces worries me... hopefully they fill it up with overwhelming activities that you can either choose to ignore or get involved in That was a pretty big issue with Ghost of Tsushima
I don´t think the problem is the fem protagonist i think the problem is that they are doing that fem protagonist all the time . English is not my native i will probable make mistakes but i think the last 5 lest say years they are always doing the fem protagonist and we are like ok we like fem protagonist but can we also have a dude . No problem again with the fem protagonist some of my favorite games have fem protagonist´s and in the games that we make our own 8 out of 10 time i will make a fem but this with the fem protagonist it´s almost all the time now . I mean come on Jin was a really good character why not go on with his story As for Yotei lest see the story and the game first and then we will say that it´s woke if it is .
I really think they intentionally held back on Jin because of the movie. They probably don't want everyone to be tired of seeing Jin. After the movie though, there will be even more desire to see a Jin sequel game.
I'll say it because the circlejerk of white knights in here isn't: There's a demand for old school entertainment - that includes a male and masculine hero as the protagonist. A game with a historical setting will always be more authentic and believable if it portrays the source material in an authentic way. History is history - no matter how you feel about it with your modern political preferences, there aren't noteworthy Japanese female warriors, because back in the day men went to war, women stayed at home. The few ones who had fighting training were usually defensive skills, like Naginata fighting for protection of the estate, not battlefield fighting skills. You might not care about the female protag, but there will be a sizeable amount of people who will.
Ghost of Tsushima is a fictional historical game. It also had several female warriors. And if we are going to talk history, Japan didn't keep good records of female warriors. The only notable group of them being the Onna Bugeisha. Others were found through archaeological evidence. This is expected given the general status of women during those periods. Hell, even modern day Japan is still behind in women's right. This isn't White Knighting, I'm simply stating facts. It's a fact that Sucker Punch works closely with Japanese historians. Well, at least they did for the first game. We shall see for the second one. So I will continue to have faith in Sucker Punch. By the way, old school entertainment has been full of female protags. Lara Croft, Kitana, Chun Li, Bayonetta, Samus... the list goes on. I know because I've been a gamer since the 80's.
@@LeoLeeGaming Sure, there were female protags in the past and many of them were great. But they weren't made by current day political activists who make the usual tropes: - girboss, often Mary Sue - Masculine, ugly or otherwise unattractive Also games of the past weren't often going for a realistic depiction of anything - either due to setting or stylistic choice. It's easier to suspend disbelief if it's not set in a familiar setting.
@@Xaito Your points are irrelevant in entertainment. That stuff may fly in historical documentaries and academic discussions, but not here. Ghost of Yotei and Ghost of Tsushima are works of *FICTION,* meaning those rules don't apply here. Besides, what's so special about old school entertainment? We had that for decades (Like Arnold Schwarzenegger's films, the Rambo series and all of those pre-2010 military action movies), people got tired of it and decided to do something different.
@@AeonPhoenix Humans are great at pattern recognition. If you break the rules that people expect the world to behave by - without a credible explanation - it's going to make a less believable product. Simple as. What was special about old school entertainment is that it was focused on giving people what they wanted. It was at some point replaced by all those superhero movies. I'm not into super hero movies, but I didn't complain because there was a clear demand being served. These days they're putting out stuff nobody is asking for because of some religion like adherence to woke, intersectional ideology.
@@Xaito Doesn't that go for every piece of media? Other genres either give something to a certain audience or possibly everyone. Like I said, we had old school entertainment for decades, and people got bored of it and moved on. I think it's better to let people write the stuff they want to do rather than chase trends.
Sucker Punch has NEVER made a bad game, I’m happy with the direction they are going, and I don’t mind them moving from Jin, because I know no matter what, they will come with a smash hit, even if its a female protagonist, because there are well written female protagonists, like Lara Croft from Tomb Raider, Freya in God of War, Ellie from TLOU, even tho the story of the 2nd game was kinda bad, her story was peak, and like you said Yuna, Masako and Tomoe aswell, I can’t wait for Ghost of Yotei and GTA 6
But we don't know who she is yet. If you're referring to the actor, well this is an acting role. This is also still Sucker Punch who have a deep respect for Japanese history and culture.
@@LeoLeeGamingSadly game companies have been proven to be sell outs and not giving a shit about culture. They will do everything to complete their woke quotas
@@jimh2594so why are you making a judgement if you’re not sure?? Woke = female protagonist at this point, how is this label still being taken seriously
@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id we don’t care about the content in game when it is done well. Women within the actual games have always been prevalent, beloved, necessary and LGBT topics are cool in games at times too. Almost anything CAN be done well in a game. And guess what? No players knew the politics or sexual preferences or beliefs of the people who made GoT. The way it should be. The primary issues are with the real life studios. The people who craft the games we spend hard earned money on and love, to escape the heaviness of life, often hate their core audience. They create safe spaces incapable of criticism that would improve games. “Toxic positivity” and the refusal to acknowledge important variables like DEI that are hurting their sales. They attack people with other beliefs and force them to self censor. They inject ideology into entertainment. They hire consultants like sweet baby inc (and countless similar consultants we’ve never heard of) that are the antithesis of their customer. It’s not about a few examples in game. It’s about their distaste for their customer and the politicization of everything in gaming anymore. Men are not allowed to be masculine. Men are not allowed to want sexy characters. Studios are not allowed to take risks or be offensive. Men are not even considered for positions in these studios because they don’t meet diversity requirements. They forgot who they’re selling games to. We will remind them.
Since i was a kid in the 90s, i dont play female protags. Back then, it's because many females were promiscuously designed, and i legit felt uncomfortable with that. Not for any social reasons, just the way it was for me. I was insulted by others as being 'gay' because i didn't play games for sexual gratification. I dont get the "id prefer to stare at a womans butt rather than a mans butt" argument either. Bro, im not staring at anyone's butts lol. Later on, i started to realize i was more-less roleplaying in my mind as the character im controlling. I found this very difficult to do as a female character. Again, my preference. I didn't hate female protag games. They just weren't for me. Now, here in 2014-2024, i am insulted for the exact opposite reason, lol. And by the game developers themselves. I'm a bigot for not choosing a female character apparently. It started for me with Rome Total War 2 when the devs literally said if you didn't like them adding females to the armies in a later patch, the game isn't for you. So i said sure, if you say so, and un-installed it. NOW, im being told that if i dont like AND buy these games, i am a sexist. Clown world... If the developers come out and say, "Hey, we get the feedback. Some people like the old protag, some people like playing dudes, and this won't be for everyone. But we have a story to tell with a female character and we think it will be good.". Awsome, do it. I am not going buy it but more power to them. If instead they come out and insist i am evil or a "toxic gamer" because of my own preference, then i hope they crash and burn. Unfortunately, that's been 90% of female lead games in the last decade. So i understand peoples defensive nature. With this IP, i lean towards us not knowing enough about it yet, but fully expecting a hit piece on modern gamers/consumers from the company themselves soon. I hope I'm wrong. Sorry for the wall of text. But it's a complex issue. Just wanted to be clear on my stance.
I love civil discourse! I am an old man too, 80's kid. I'm also the dude you described, I always picked female protags since I rather stare at their butts for hours and hours. But equally, I didn't mind Jin's hotspring butt in the first game rofl. Jokes aside, yea it's a deeper underlying issue, that's for sure. I'm just keeping faith in Sucker Punch due to how much respect they showed Japanese culture and history in the first game. I have faith they aren't going to do anything to jeopardize the relationship they have with their Japanese peers. It's sad really, that people can't seem to have a civil discourse over subject matter such as this one. We have to resort to calling one another names.
@@LeoLeeGaming Sadly, it's encouraged on both sides. Game developers are just as guilty as the hyper-opinionated consumer in this area. Low sales ever being blamed on the ones purchasing (or not purchasing) your product has become FAR too common a practice in modern media-development of multiple forms, movies, games, and otherwise. Not justifying anything by any means, but it's not hard for me to see why these particular situations have become so volatile. And every time people seem to lower their guard, they get smacked; on both sides even. Sad environment for really any form of entertainment. Everyone wants to make a difference in what THEY individually believe is a virtue. Some believe fighting the "woke" motives a virtue, some find fighting FOR "woke" motives a virtue, some people argue what "woke" even is, and everyone is fighting over the same IP's to call their own. Not sure how any of it is fun, personally. And I thought that's what games were about, Lol
@@negkenp I'm referring to not being able to have a game come out without any of these controversies. Wukong had it's share as well. But whatever, I'm going to continue to play the shit outta them lol.
Great business move to divide the community on this game instead of pleasing EVERYONE. i wonder if their next big brain plan will be to tell everyone "if you don't like it, don't play it" like concord did😂 way to ignore the radical activist thats already part of the drama as well
@@c4mprnapper932 lets wait first. Ghost of tsushima was incredible and very respectful. So i think the story they will tell will end up good. As long as it doesn't feel like a forced character, I don't see a problem. I gotta admit though that i feel like ghost of tsushimas story wasn't completed and i wished they had done a part 2 with Jin or even Yuna.
@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id i didnt see anything woke in that game, maybe i have missed something in a sidequest. but absolutly nothing was woke about what i have experienced in my 55 hours of gameplay.
Nothing wrong with female protagonists. But, this is a Sony title so based on that and the decisions we've seen them make I dont think its a stretch to say that the decision to have a female protagonist was more than simply a creative decision. But, I also havent really seen anyone calling it "woke". I think most people are just gonna be disappointed we dont get to play as someone who the fans of the first game loved.
I place my faith in Sucker Punch and their deep respect for Japanese culture and history. They worked closely with Japanese historians in the first game and visited Tsushima multiple times. Even got honored on that island after the game. And as soon as the trailer was released, I saw so many people on FB and X calling it "woke". Now that the actor is known, it made those accusations worse. As for Jin, I still believe we will get a sequel to his story. There is a movie coming out too so maybe around that time.
Oh its woke alright just from pattern recognition alone, the first was woke too but this will be way worse, an old school time period with modern day sensibilities, very immersive for the dorks buying this shit.
The problem about female protagonist is the context, cause all licences are now feminized so i think there will be some trouble for the release of this game… wait and see…
Ok, I somewhat agreed with calling ac shadows woke, but really calling Ghost of Yotei woke? It's just a female lead, are we not allowed to have a female lead without it being woke? "Oh there weren't female Samurai" I don't recall them claiming she was one firstly, secondly SP never claims to go for historical accuracy they try to make a good representation of the place and culture their games are set in, well thirdly are ya'll forgetting about Lady Masako? Ya'll need to stop crying "woke" whenever a lead isn't how you want it.
Yes but it’s the theme of every game lately change from a male to female and make the female gay or non-binary oh and what happened the voice actor came out saying they are non-binary like why the fuck do we care and why the hell do you have to say it. If you don’t see some weirdo pattern here then you clearly live under a rock
I'm sick of the woke stuff like most people but I'm willing to give this game a benefit of a doubt. We don't know much about the character and the rest of the game. It's not a shoehorned character this is a totally new story in the same universe.
Plus we know Sucker Punch has a great relationship with Japan. I don't think they'd do anything to jeopardize that. They worked closely with Japanese historians the first time and I don't see why they wouldn't have for this one.
Me watching the trailer. This is amazing. I hope they don't screw this up . A few days later . They found a way to screw this up . Due to hiring someone who works with sweet baby inc. so now just save $70 from this game and Wolverine
This game is woke! Always replacing men who establish a game with strong female "I am woman hear me roar" characters! This game will be woke and will flop!
It's not woke because it's a female. It's woke because of who the voice actress is. She is literally a woke activist. A very radical and nasty one at that. Would be 100% different if they chose a good actress without an agenda.
@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id one of the reasons i liked the first game was historical accuracy . there were never any female Samurai . also tired of race and gender swaps.
@@JohnWayne-xy1gs Did you know John Wayne played a race swapped Genghis Khan? Also there were real female warriors who carried swords and used samurai armor.
@@LeoLeeGaming These people don't even do the research before complaining. If it is indeed a story about revenge, who cares if she wields swords she's an outlaw? They forgot the there was a joan of arch for japan.
They will surely cite the Ainu racism issue and claim that the Japanese were racist. Or they will claim that the Ainu people are black. As a Japanese, I am fed up with having to fight not only UBI but also Sucker Punch! What the hell is this? Let me play the game like a normal person.
Ghost of Tsushima is my favourite game of all time - I'll NOT be getting this. I'm generally sick of female leads, and if Sucker Punch have gone woke, they can go without my money and support. They shouldn't employ a super-woke activist to be in their games.
Your right they can go without your money. A few dudes who are angry at the mere fact that they're playing as a woman won't change the possible hundreds of thousands that will give them their money
@@LeoLeeGaming we didnt have problems with the female chars in the first game cz they were making the story of the male lead more relavant and interesting. most consumers r men, we wanna see men fight through difficulties, we wanna see brotherhood, we wanna see love for the protagonist from beautiful women. thats how we relate. sacrifice brotherhood love...
@@LeoLeeGaming thats because men dont like the games that are coming out nowadays. thats why the sales of vid games are also significantly down. cz men aint buyin these s#it$.
Someone better tell the Japanese they went woke in the 70s when they released Lady Snowblood.
Back then they did so without ulterior motives. They wanted to tell a cool story. These days it's different. Someone at Sony told them to make a genderswap for the series for sure, because that's the modern thing to do.
@Xaito why would it be any different for sucker punch. They've always wanted to tell a good story. They never had an agenda, no reason they would have it now.
@@mrmouse9476 Companies are rarely defined by a single person. People leave, people join. Management or investors have changing demands. Many big names that put out some of the best games went woke and are in different stages of going broke. Why wouldn't SP?
How many of those other companies you speak of were made ambassadors of a part of a country? This is the key difference I keep trying to point out. Sucker Punch has far more to lose here than say a Naughty Dog. Having been honored the way they have in Japan is a big deal. That's guaranteed sales of your game in their country. Is it possible that SP could jeopardize that? Sure. I'm just not willing to bet on it just yet. Need more info.
@@Xaito because there is no evidence of this. Tell me if the major people being GOT have left, or have changed "agendas". They have a hell of a track record. And there is nothing in the trailer to suggest the game would be compromised by people's beliefs. As much as there are companies that have gone bad, many have stayed the same and improved. Fromsoft, Santa Monica, first party nintendo developers, the studio behind ASTRO bot, the studio behind black myth wukong, bg3 devs, and many more have continued to improve and deliver on their games. Having a women as a main protag doesn't equal woke, there are many awesome female video game leads like Samus and Laura croft. They are good because they are from good developers that prioritize good gamplay and story first before there beliefs. And sicker punch's record proves the same so far.
Just want the hot springs to be the same
Equality!
It won’t. Plus she isn’t attractive anyway so who cares 😂
A lot of people are saying there were no female samurai. If that is the case ok. But theres nothing even saying she is Samurai in this trailer.
There were no female samurai and no female ronin. And the women who were were probably killed/bested by men 10 times out of 10. People were upset about Yusuke, but this is pretty much the same thing. A female protag doesn’t suit the setting/time period. Taking out hoards of enemies twice her size? Pretty immersion breaking to be honest
@@johannsebastianbach3501 dude just listen to yourself, hate the female protagonist because you can't fantasize yourself being it. Also you are wrong, female japanese warriors were a real thing (Omna- Bugeisha/Omna -musha) and screaming that women never existed in the history of war is just incredibly cowardly and misogynistic. Grow up
@@johannsebastianbach3501there were female samurai in Ghost of Tsushima though.
@@Boredomislife75 dude, samurai didn't exist in 4th century, Japan didn't exist in 4th century, it was not even an alliance of loose tribes by then.
@@johannsebastianbach3501 There were many female samurai and while many didn't go on the battlefield Gozen Tomoe ended up collecting the heads of warriors she defeated in the battle of Awazu. Just pointing that out because that means she wasn't bested...Which doesn't mean it won't be woke, but from what we know yet it isn't.
honestly it's WAY to early to judge this game i have no problem with a swordswoman also i looked it up apparently Japan did have women who used swords they're called Onna-Musha which must be what she is
The voice actress i heard is an activist
@@captainbuzzkill4658 again to early can’t judge the game cause of one person
@@lelouchstrife1891 i don't care if it's the best game ever created. Not one cent put of my pocket will go towards it
@@captainbuzzkill4658 yea, and? advocating for equality and telling white racist incels they should start respecting women is something that everyone should do.
Are we going to to act like their wasnt two lesbians samurai's in the first game?oh right thats befor everyone got triggered by just seeing a woman 😬
because they were well written and their actors were not active anti white racists.
Why were there any lesbian samurais in the first place why does every female character in games these days have to be lesbian. Do you really believe there were lesbians roaming in Japan those days I really really doubt it but as usual you weirdos love it while non weirdos just want a normal f**king game that doesn’t have to mention ones sex like we don’t f**king care it’s not important to the game or story so why insert it? Seriously stop living under a rock stop being a weirdo for once in your life
Lol could u imagine lesbians in early Japan.. i don't think that was a thing😅
@@socalledpro3005 looks like someone didn't play a certain side quest lol
@@socalledpro3005 Do the Lady Masako quests.
yea it's not called "Ghost Of Tsushima 2" because it's not a sequel to the first game it's a completely different game/story, but i do hope we do get to see Jin in someway or form.
Probably not conaidering this is set in an entierly different time period, in an emtierly different part of japan.
I for one am super excited to see a story about Ainu, though. That's so rare.
Certain crowd is now hiding behind calling everything woke or DEI. When really they have some deep seeded prejudices. I was raised on Anime, 2000s Toonami, Martial Art Flicks. And there has always been badass women warriors. Besides Ghost of Tsushima had women warriors in it helping Jin. I am starting to see both sides like to whine. I will not let somebody tell me what's woke or not woke when I have my own hearing and sight, to judge for myself. UA-camrs are now making money hating on everything that comes out. I mean everything. Grown men crying over Snow White, Barbie and The Little Mermaid being woke. Really? People now know what woke products look like. Stop trying to tell us what your definition of woke is and trying to kill a game before it comes out with no evidence to support your claim.
Anime & martial art flicks designed intentionally to be edgy or goofy af is not the same thing as woke subversion, especially made by foreigners not western woke activists.
@@shadymaestro same dude it’s different if they’re powerful for no reason. But they have to have good writing and have an actual story. All we can do is wait and see
Great Job , you tell the MFers
lol@ Snow White, Barbie and The Little Mermaid.
@@BUPMY1 When you grow the F - - - Up you can respond back.
Im cool with Jin not returning. His story is completed. He birthed the idea of a rogue warrior who bends the sacred code of honor for justice, and paid the ultimate price for it. Now his legacy continues with a female character and im all up for it
But imagine, a grand battle against the Shogun. Kickstarts the change in the samurai way. The birth of shinobis. All taking place on the mainland. Come on, you wouldn't want to play that Jin game? But yea, I'm definitely down for multiple unique Ghost origin story games. This is looking like it's becoming a massive franchise like AC.
@@LeoLeeGaminghonestly I hope not. Assassin's creed games became too repetitive. I think game companies that make a lot of games based on the same concept should make the games very far apart like Rockstar, or make the games vastly different while retaining the same mechanics like from soft. Doing otherwise makes the game feel less unique and more repetitive. Look at far cry for example. Every game more or less plays the same since far cry 3, adding more ways to play like helicopters and other stuff doesn't make it feel less repetitive, and if anything can make it feel like the game is having an identity crisis. Resident evil did the same thing until resident evil 6 flopped hard. Then they made 7 and 8 which are both masterpieces, both still have the same mechanics however the experiences are vastly different not because of the story, but because of how the player is forced to engage with the game from running speed to the types of weapons available to ammo scarcity etc. It would be too hard trying to make the next game just as scary or somehow even scarier than 7, so they made it like resident evil 4, however they still included house beneviento in 8 which was arguably more horrifying than 7 as a whole. That's just how I feel about it at least. I feel like making more ghost games that just have more weapons, or making one where they eventually redo the combat mechanics wouldn't make sense. If they want to try something different, just do what fromsoft did with blood borne and elden ring.
Well I certainly don't want SP to mirror AC. Just as big, but over time. Not a new Ghost game every other year. At the same time, I wouldn't mind them doing something completely new. Or revisiting Infamous.
14:32-17:53 THANK YOU. All of the people who are bitching about a female protag seem to have completely forgotten about all of this when they most likely thought those characters were super badass. And ESPECIALLY forgot that Yuna is the biggest catalyst, if not the sole reason, that Jin was even able to become the Ghost in the first damn place. You've earned this sub.
I understand historical inaccuracies, but is that even Suckerpunches goal, to make a historically accurate game? The director when talking about GoT even said that they weren't trying to make a historically accurate game, but a game that celebrates Japanese things. We dont know anything about this games story, but are we immediately going to say this game is woke?
People were calling it "woke" as soon as the trailer dropped unfortunately.
@@LeoLeeGaming Because it will be, because it's current day and that happens everywhere these days. The time they launched development on this one was around the all time high of woke things getting made. We now see the first results dropping on our door steps and they're failing.
@@Xaito so you really believe Sucker Punch is willing to jeopardize their very good standing with Japan by flooding Yotei with western social agendas?
@@LeoLeeGaming Companies are not like you good old buddy. They can change radically with due to different reasons like key persons leaving the company, investors or management demands etc.
Several large companies have gone down that route, why couldn't or wouldn't Sucker Punch?
There were hints of woke in the first one, like lady Adachi being secretly Bi or some random dude NPC in the middle of nowhere dropping that he's got a boyfriend like it's a normal thing in ye olde Japan. People just ignored it because the rest of the game wasn't tainted.
It'd be a happy surprise if this is not the case, but they certainly raised the usual red flags, especially coupled with the choice of the VA for the protag.
I'm replying GoT after learning more about Japanese history... and GoT is 90% bullshit. Katanas and haiku haven't been invented yet. The armor is futuristic. The third act is set in a fantasy winter land that doesn't make sense on Tsushima Island. Samurai had zero problems being dishonorable and sneaky during this time.
It's just set during a historical event and most of the BS is the kind of stuff you find in Japanese media and comforts to the standard conventions of historical fiction.
If GoY is channeling the many, many female revenge flicks that litter Japanese media, it'll be doing the same. The other day I was watching a woman from around 1910 take out a large group of men in a sword fight... while naked, because 70s. Around the same time, Meiko Kaji was doing this fully clothed in many different historical eras. It's a concept that has been popular throughout my 55 years.
I just dont like how we wont play as jin, lady masako was a great female warrior in the first game (cant remember if she was refered to as samurai, she wore their armor and used their tactics though), i feel they can give this protag a good story, just dont force modern politics in it.
@@thomasmason730 yea, they never explicitly referred to Masako as a samurai. I have a lot of faith in Sucker Punch. They have done no wrong all these years and multiple games. Plus they have a deep respect for Japanese culture and work with Japanese historians.
Ah yes, like you have a consistent standard for what modern politics are.
Yup- she oviously isnt samurai- not even considered ronin- she is here for revenge we hear. im sure we will find out why she has picked up the sword- probably from her murdered father, who taught her to fight for fe
And nobody can say some crap like the samurai wouldnt let her carry a sword- she isnt even in japan she is on the outskirts in an obviously far less civilized area than the mainland with their big armies and shogun.
The sword probably also plays a role in why she is wanted. There are historical accounts of female warriors that took up the sword though. Maybe not this same time period, but Sucker Punch doesn't strictly follow the time period anyway.
@@LeoLeeGaming Exactly. Tsushima isn't trying to be a historical game, it's design was to be an homage to Kurosawa cinema.
I suspect Sucker Punch will refer to Lady Snowblood at some point when talking about development of Yotei.
Very much this. She's also implied to (possibly) be Ainu, in which case the entire "is she samurai???" discussion is irrelevant.
@@LeoLeeGamingRevenge story to honor stories like Lady Snowblood, that's just as much a part of Samurai films as stories like Jin's.
Just because they chose a female as the main protagonist doesnt mean the game will be woke.
It’ll definitely be woke just like the first game was.
@@roshe7887 well if it will be just as woke as the 1st one was I'll be more than happy with it.
@@Boredomislife75 how woke does it need to be for u to not play it then?
@@roshe7887 well I guess it would have to be more woke than the 1st was.
@@Boredomislife75 first one had lesbos, female samurais, anti-establishment rhetoric, anti-colonial plot, disdain for conservative ideology, and so on. How can it get more woke?
Look at all the shills at the comment section. None of them have the courage to talk about the cv is crazy woke activist. None of them want to talk abou dev team photo where all the men in dev team were replaced. Either you are a shill or a coward. Maybe both
I know all the hardcore gamers will be disappointed but its just the a trailer. I always loved the Ghost of Tsushima game and im definetly buying Ghost of Yotei. Fuck the polotics and everything i just want the gameplay and story to be good. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GENDER PROTAGONIST CUZ IM A GROWN ASS MAN
A gamer that cares about the game's quality rather than stupid politics...
How rare
Well good for you, on your moral high horse. I on the other hand do care and you're not going to change my mind by trying to shame me for having a preference.
@Xaito lol you go girl 😅
@@IAmMrRoss Did you just assume my gender? **Press triangle to get triggered**
she is left activist with abolish the police and destroy white supremacy
So its woke cuz a woman has a katana? Its based off of historical events like the furst one but like the first one its fiction. Sounds like pre judging. As long as she has a cool story and the gane has good combat ile enjoy it
@@chaoticneutral7528 this is why I said in the video that I dislike both extremes of the argument. Now even if we get a female lead from a studio that has done that before, the game is called woke, dei, etc... the first GoT game even had multiple female warriors that everyone loved. We have to keep in mind that Sucker Punch also deeply respects Japanese history. I have faith.
@LeoLeeGaming - yea it sucks but I have faith too. Maybe even blind faith as GOT helped me thru a tough time.
no it's woke because jin story is over thats dumb to me 😂
Sucker punch doesn't disappoint if there is a studio to deliver it would be sucker punch
she is woke, becouse sie will ABOLISH THE POLICE and GIVE ALL POWER TO BLM
Well she wears a mask and aren’t Shogun’s samurai’s or are they a mix of samurai and ninja? My concern is will she have the same or better of the sneak shadow kill abilities as the previous game.
I am super curious to see what they did with stealth combat in this one. Also the parkour as well.
I'm not disappointed because you play as a woman, I'm disappointed because you aren't playing as Jin anymore. I always imagined they'd continue his story and make a direct sequel where he goes to mainland Japan.
@@riff.machine Yea, I don't think his story is anywhere near done. I suspect they are waiting for after the Ghost movie to give us a Jin sequel. This is also probably why they yet again skipped over the mainland.
If you knew sucker punches history, you would've known that they always want to make new origin stories. They can always go back and continue older stories. The next ghost game might not even be with Atsu, but again a new protag.
Jin is gone. But the legend of the ghost he made, will live on and inspire forever
@@callmeturg1590 He is now a mythical tale.
@@LeoLeeGaming long time ago, a young samurai of the Sakia clan fought agenst the mongol army, along side his uncle.
After there defeat agenst the army, Jin took on a new role, as the ghost! Killing mongrols from the shadows, striking fear in to their eyes!
As long as the story's good and the main character is written well that's all I really care about aside from the gameplay
Why are they all female then? The latest game in every series I can think of besides Space marine 2 is female. Zelda, GTA6, Last of Us, Uncharted 5, Resident Evil, Ghost of Yotei, Witcher 4.... it's just weird. If anyone is smart enough to possess pattern recognition, they will notice it. Maybe you dont care, but someone cares a lot. And this game started out being about Jin, and was forced to change for some reason. Im not touching it.
movies before play ghost of yotei for reference:
- lady snowblood
- zatoichi (2003 version there's brother and sister story seeking revenge disguise as entertainer using shamisen hidden blade and its snare to choke)
- ichi
- azumi
all of these japanese movies are revenge stories themed. i think the closest to ghost of yotei is lady snowblood. kill bill inspired by this movie
Thanks for the recs. I keep hearing about Lady Snowblood. I'll check it out!
I Say make her Character a “Half-Breed” (Similar to Connor in assassins Creed 3) her farther Being a Samurai Lord & Mother being one of “The Ainu People of Hokkaido” bring awareness to Japans Equivalent of “The Native People”
I'm really curious how they are going to handle the Ainu in this game.
I'm getting this game 1st day. F* the bs!
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I feel like as soon as a woman was the confirmed protagonist, people went looking and digging to justify a reason to call it "woke". I have never seen this much outcry about a VOICE ACTOR having different views and opinions from them, that they feel the need to shit on a game that we know nothing about. A voice actors opinions online should not matter😭
I need to see more, can't tell if it's Woke or not from what they have shown.
The good thing about this is that maybe, just maybe, Sucker Punch can show Ubisoft how to use a female lead without making it woke.
As for the story goes, usually I like stand-alone stories, but part of me wants her to be a descendant of Jin and Yuna, that was we know they ended together and a new tradition of being protectors of the people was born.
Graphics are the same as the old one. I hope this game isn't just more weapons and new map
I think the graphics are much more detailed. I watched it in 4k on my OLED though. It's definitely not as vibrant as the first game. Seems they toned that down... for better or worse...
Even though it wasn't very common for women to be somewhere that was a few in human history secondly maybe she's the daughter of a samurai that train her that a young age
To be 100% fair.
If God of War HAD a Gaelic language mode; that'd be fucking AMAZING
I did 3 runs with 100 percent. But damn you went hard! Tsushima deserves it!
So excited for the sequel!
I was so obsessed with it. My War Zone friends were not pleased lmao.
@@LeoLeeGaming what was your favorite ending choice? *Spoilers y'all*
I had to fulfill my uncle's wish. It is what he needed and lived for. I couldn't spit in his face like that, and walk away.
@@McManthony21 I liked the honoring him ending the most. It was one of the very rare moments Jin showed his human emotions. But I truly believe the other option is the true ending. It's his final act of letting go of the old ways, signaling his full transition into the Ghost.
@@LeoLeeGaming well chalk it up to fantastic writing! You make it sound better than it felt when I did it once. Here is to the future and getting to 100 percent the next one 5 times 😁
I think it would be cool if this is a descendant of Jin Sakai and that The game there'll be like in somewhat not or flashbacks where you play as Jin Sakai and showing what happened or they could could save the idea for like a ghost of tsushima 2 for another game.
I know I have ghosts of tsushima 2 in the comment at like it's a separate game and to be honest this frankly is Ghost of yotei, to be honest I'd be excited and happy if they said this would just be like a spin-off and then ghost of tsushima 2 will be another thing entirely
I'm really hoping for a direct sequel too. Maybe after the movie. For this one, it would be so badass to have Jin show up as a mythical tale.
Honestly, a bit nervous, but still can see how female mc could be tied in to the lore, but still, nervous on how they would handle the protagonist and the tone of the game.
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Disagree with Jin having more story to tell tho. The game was about what he did to become the ghost and how he became the legend. Is he supposed to be the ghost of a new place now? He just goes around, game after game, being a ghost in the same period, but at different locations, fighting new enemies somehow, every sequel? He's the Ghost of Tsushima. That's his title, that's his legend. I'm so happy SP chose not to shoe-horn him into some corny mainland hijinx just to squeeze a sequel out of him. I'd rather it be more like Avatar, where the ghost is inherited across eras to help in times of turmoil. I liberated and explored every inch of tsushima multiple times and I truly feel like Jin's story was complete.
@@ToothpasteJuice I have this idea that when Jin defeats the Shogun, him and Yuna initiate the change in the way of the samurai. Starting to incorporate Shinobi. In reality, samurai employed Shinobi. Some were samurai themselves. Also, they didn't actually have problems with fighting "dirty". But hey, even if we don't get a Jin sequel, we have the movie to look forward to. Thanks!
There is a difference between when they make a female main character and a female side character when they do side characters as female it is really good or really bad but main female character they make them overpowered with no character development whatsoever
The comment about watching an American samurai flick in English rather than Japanese...
There's a Miike Takashi Western called Sukiyaki Western Django (cameo by Tarantino) which follows on the logic that a Western (even one that's set in Asia) should be in English. Comedy ensues as only a few actors seem to be reasonably fluent in English. You will need subtitles.
Personally it's a judgment call for me as something like FF XVI and Metaphor: Refantazio annoy me so much with the cliche UK accents that I turn on Japanese just to avoid it. Stellar Blade is in Korean because the English VA is so iffy. Nier Automata is in English because I just didn't feel like reading the dialog in a bullet hell game. I picked Japanese for GoT because 99.9% of samurai media I've watched are in Japanese and English voices never sound right to me. Same deal for anime now, the few times I watch anime, but the Persona 3, 4, & 5 gang are grandfathered in as English.
The movie Death Of Stalin gets high marks for a wide variety of English and American accents instead of just using a Russian accent, although that might have been out of place were it not a comedy.
There's so many elements that go into my choice of audio... Adam Savage likes to recommend watching bad movies in a foreign language as reading the dialog makes bad writing more tolerable.
Those are fine reasons. The reason I stated a dislike for are the ones who say "It's more authentic in Japanese." Also, I care that the GoT English VAs also had their likeness used and their performances were mocapped. You are getting their literal facial expressions as they acted those lines. And many of them are actors that are doing VA work.
Aside from that, I think GoT's Japanese VAs are terrible. Specifically Jin's. This isn't an anime and he made it sound like anime. And the times he let out a cry in both the Taka scene and kill ending... wtf was that? Lol. But to each their own.
@LeoLeeGaming while I'm learning Japanese (so very slowly), I have a hard time detecting bad acting in foreign films. I can spot Troll II levels of awful acting, but I know for a fact many of the K-pop singers turned actors in the K-dramas I've watched aren't always good... and I really can't tell most of the time.
See the Adam Savage take as reading a movie does cover a fair amount of sins.
For me, I think it's just I'm aware of what various Japanese archetypes are supposed to sound like, so Jin has the right tone for a samurai, even if his acting is too anime. It's sort of like I knew what Japanese Darth Vader was going to sound like before I heard it. Those audio tones help dial me into a story set in Japan. Likewise I'm starting to pick up on Korean vocal tones and can't watch an English dub anymore.
But I agree with you that the authenticity argument sounds like wank to me. Whatever helps the story work for you. There are no wrong answers.
A neutral zone is definitely the place to be when it comes to jusging video games. It's wild to think that people could consider having a female lead in a game as woke now. Laura Croft and Samus Aron are some of the most iconc video game characters of all time, and embody the quintessential 'badass female protagonist'. Don't see people bitching about them. Just enjoy games for what they are; an art form used to tell stories. With how Sucker Punch did Tsushima, I trust them enough to give them a chance with Yotei. Let 'em cook.
Yall acting like it’s a Ubisoft game 💀
No offensive Yotei toy in sight.
@@LeoLeeGaming just being optimistic cause there’s no reason to be pessimistic yet. 🤷🏻
It's gonna be.
Best opinion video about a video game i have seen in a long time. Very objective. Thanks
Edit: i disagree with you only on the language topic. Even if the game is American, the setting is in Japan. Watching that setting and listening to English freaks me out lol.
Thanks for the kind words!
Amazing video mate. You can tell this is a franchise you are passionate about and it was good to hear all your points about that game. You even pointed out things in the trailer I completely missed. Cannot wait to watch your let's plays of this game. 👍
Thank you as always brudda!
I thought they were going to take jin to the mainland for part 2 of the game
Even horizon zero dawn had its own part 2, where they took Aloy to forbidden west, and the game was still great to play both games
Me too. I was so sure they were going to do that. Maybe after the movie they will.
We need a Infamous 2 Remake for PS5 and PC. or Make a new Infamous. Air, Lava, Water Abilities
I'd be down for a new Infamous for sure! Time to resurrect Cole.
We don't know if she is double wielding, the few frames are not a concreat statment.
She is. There was brief gameplay footage of her attacking someone while dual wielding.
Yes, I won’t play a game just because there is a female mc in it. It’s my money and my time and if a game or movie does not cater to my fantasy or escapism(yes, that’s what media is for) , I won’t buy it. I’m sure that this game has excellent gameplay, I hope it does well, but I won’t play it. It doesn’t do it for me. ( this doesn’t come from a hatred of women, I love women, I have a girlfriend but I don’t want to be a woman, neither in real life nor in a game)
This game does not exist in a Vacuum! All most, all of the Games lately have been Female leads. And it is Fact that 90%+ of the Potential Customers are Male!
There is a reason that Barbie dolls are Female and not Male.
There is a Reason why the Book " fifty shades of Gray" has a Female lead, there is a reason why the Book "Hunger Games" is a Female Lead. Because Women are the Target audience.
And if Blxckrxck would pay all the Publishers to only accept Books about Male Protagonists, than the Target Audience Women, would be Angry too. Probably cry Soxism od Pxtriacj.
It is also not as if there wasnt Blxckrxck spending big Money for these componys to check the Boxes!
My problem is that it would be easy to make us Choose beetween Male or F., change up the Dialoge a little.
But no they made it exclusive Female on purpose (probably DEI Money).
Ok so im going to reflect that dicision with my Purchasing Choice and im going to Critisise them too.
And for the Peopel that justify it with the First Game not having a Chr. Choise either. I will say yes, but the Target Audience is Male. That also why Eat, prey, love or Mama Mia are also Female leads because theyre tageting Female audiences!
Also Minus Points because we dont get to see Portugues!
Nice to see someone also using some pattern recognition.
We literally had female warriors in the first game............I swear the Anti-Woke crowd has made me tired of all of this.
But...the anti-woke crowd was literally bullied for years with game with ACTUAL WOKE content, they have right to be upset it might be another one, because nowadays we getting bombarded by woke content, what do you expect?
@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id the Anti-Woke crowd are absolutely justifiable in their concerns, are you dense? The entire industry was compromised pushing this nonsense.
……And I swear I’m tired of all the woke trash in games lol
If you're woke you support
Child mutilation
Child killing
You actively defend pedophiles
You are actively racist.
So yea.. why would anybody rational support that?
@@sens-cel13And then I ask what that woke content is and it's just women or minorities.
As soon as i saw a female protagonist i knew shot was gonna be wack. Should've stuck with Jin
I've never played the first one but never heard a single bad thing about it.
So even though it may seem that the studio gone woke bc of female mc, they have credit.
So fans might still get a compelling main character, interesting story and good gameplay.
I sure hope thats whats going to happen. Because I'm locking forward to play both of the "ghost of" games.
(English not perfect but hope you get the idea)
Oh man, you have to play Tsushima. It's so good.
So down for this game! The female protag reminds me of Blue Eye Samurai a bit, both badass female Ronin with a similar silhouette.
I'm not disappointed at all that it's a woman, besides playing a woman never bothered me as long as she's well written and interesting no worries, but it's rather on the side of the actress who must look at who for the time being is really a woke activist, but I hope she doesn't have too much impact on the game, which I've been waiting for 5 years now.
Man, I wanted Jin 😢. Thats all. Oh well. Hopefully its as good if not better than the first.
Me too. I will hold onto my belief that we will get a Jin sequel after the movie. Fingers crossed.
i dont think the problem is that protagonist is a female, we have great games like that. But i think its the main character actress IS WOKE. and ppl are afraid that those idea will be pushed onto the game. we dont know yet, but its something to consider .
When I recorded this video, nobody posted about the actor yet. There were lots already calling the game out. But yes, it got worse once the actor was revealed.
@@LeoLeeGaming yeahh i just saw this was from a few days ago, sorry just watched it now. Lets hope for the best because im like you, i have no issue with main character being a woman, just hope they are able to separate real life and work life and not let that spill over to anything on the game. we shall see! thanks for the reply!
imo, the continuation of Jin story make sense, but as a video game, it might not be fun for the players if wehave 2 game about the war with Mongol invasion back to back. it will be stale and boring real fast
I don't think they should tackle the actual second invasion. Just more about dealing with the Shogun and initiating a change in that world's samurai way. Plus it would be fun having to fight against samurai. It'll be like all the Ronin duels from the first game, just more of it.
People changing the narrative the va for her is a woke activist that's the problem
Yea, I made this video before people discovered who the VA and face model was. There were definitely still many comments about going female. Now that the VA is known, it seems to have shifted to a focus on the actor. I will still place my focus and faith in Sucker Punch. I highly doubt they would do anything to jeopardize their relationship with Japan. They helped repair a Torii gate in Tsushima and were highly honored by Japan for it.
You guys just don't get it. Its not because she's a female, its because they gender swap the already established main character.
Almost all of our beloved female leads were ORIGINAL, they didn't take someones place.
And with the current gaming landscape, swapping leads is a Red flag!!
They didn't gender swap the main character this clearly isn't a sequel to ghost of tsushima it's a new story with a new character this is not the case of them turning a male character into a female for no reason
@@mikeswift1236 as I've said with todays gaming landscape replacing the lead is a read flag. If tsushima didn't exist then you would be right that people are jumping to conclusions if they still call it woke. Right now its a coin toss
Yeah talk about having done zero research. This game isn't even set during the same time period, as far as I can tell.
@@Gladissims same universe, sakai's universe, jin is the ghost, they replaced the ghost and they put an activist to play the ghost in this economy! i dunno what to tell you, im not saying the game is definitively agenda driven, but the sign is absolutely present. its the strat piggy backing of a successful ip. if tsushima didn't exist then i would agree people are jumping to conclusions.
@@galaxybrainjimmy1520 Well, considering the story they want to tell, reusing Jin wouldn't even have made much sense. There is absolutely no good reason for him to be there, and I for one, am glad they did not shoehorn him in to appease people like you.
As for her inheriting the title... Why not? "The Ghost" is a concept anyone can take on. It's not inherently tied to only Jin.
I bet you would not have complained if she'd been male.
I am not convinced it is woke because there is a female lead we don’t know nothing yet she didn’t have any dialogue in the trailer we don’t know what her personality is. And the controversy with the actress it shouldn’t be a problem as long as she keeps her activism believes out of the way. She should be fine in the game. Sorry I used the word woke I don’t know what else to call that kind of stuff plus the left came up with it calling that stuff it now they don’t like when we point it out when they behave as such.
bruh, you right wing people call everything woke nowadays and cant even explain most of it in full senteces. woke woke woke
@@MurderWeaponLimited ya I agree the confusion of everything is hard to explain but I do understand how tiring it is about both sides of things.
@@MurderWeaponLimited you can recognize a intentional behavior when it comes to feminism it is the over masculine behavior of female characters and them making men seem like imbeciles or evil while the woman has no flaws like they did with captain marvel and Wonder Woman.
Its like they want Lara Croft as a Female Main Charakter anymore in Tomb Raider they want a Male Charakter for the first Time in the Tomb Raider franchise Erika Ishii and Atsu are different Charakters i dont care about Erika Ishii and i dont know her and thats good for me🤷🏾
I've seen her on critical role and she was really fun so I'm excited for this!
Look up the actress and her resume and ask yourself again if it is woke or not.
Wow her voice actress is an activist? That would totally matter if voice actresses had control over the story
If I did that for every single actor in media that I consume, I'd likely have nothing left to enjoy. My faith has nothing to do with the actor's personal life... my faith lies in Sucker Punch.
Idc its a female samurai protagonist i just fare if the story makes since
While these are all good points, I still say I'm going to be cautious. I've been burnt by western developers far too many times. I loved GOT but I can't give them the benefit of a doubt yet. I already have a problem with Atsu's face and voice actor already and some of the employees but I'm not going throw this game under the bus until more information comes out.
I'm putting faith into SP because I know they deeply respect the Japanese history. They worked side-by-side with Japanese historians for the first game. I have faith that they wouldn't do anything to upset Japanese culture and history. Hell, SP was honored on the island of Tsushima in real life.
Your buggin SP is diff their fans of Japanese film in which woman kill also and I guess you never played tenchu back in the day
@@fabolousjada5070 i don't think you read a thing I put down.
@@LeoLeeGaming I respect that but who's to say that it's the same team?
@@fnspidey3825 oh they definitely have new people as they were hiring lots of positions after the first game. Nate Fox is still creative director though.
Just let it cook. If the story justifies it then let’s see. Better than making up a story of a “black samurai” which turned out to be just someone’s pipe dream and making it come off as historical facts.😂
Making up random black samurai? That would be pretty silly, they should've based it off of Yasuke, whom Japanese media regularly depicts as a Samurai!
@@Peasham i know right. These devs at Ubisoft should really try researching first. Oh wait🤔
@@therealjay5731 Wow you completely missed my point lmfao
Yasuke's real, and has been featured in Japanese media a dozen times over.
I'm pretty convinced that the outrage over AC Shadows is just about a black man climbing up in the world with people that gave him a chance (Like the Oda Clan), unlike how the Western World lied to millions of Africans about "uplifting" them from the Stone Age, only to torment and kill them by the millions.
@@AeonPhoenix was it proven that he is a samurai? I specifically mentioned “black samurai”. If you have sources pls link it. 🧐
The first game literally had all kinds of woke moments but now that a woman is the main character, we suddenly notice?
The first was diverse and had accurate representation for the time period, people can call that woke but I call that accurate representation, hopefully yotei will as well I am excited
Wow when there is history of female warriors in the time period and they show up in the game😮
@@themoongateofficial there was a married lesbian in the game.
@@grannde_ somehow that's more woke than a married lesbian.......
@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id you literally are a weirdo to not play got because of wOkEnEss
The big empty open spaces worries me... hopefully they fill it up with overwhelming activities that you can either choose to ignore or get involved in
That was a pretty big issue with Ghost of Tsushima
Its not woke so stop it people dont even know what woke means the game isn't even out yet
Don’t care. This game will be amazing
Because we have faith in Sucker Punch.
@@LeoLeeGaming exactly!
If you are taking your history lessons from a god damn video game then you really should just stick to playing in your imagination.
Damn, so I should stop jumping into pipes and eating mushrooms.
I don´t think the problem is the fem protagonist i think the problem is that they are doing that fem protagonist all the time . English is not my native i will probable make mistakes but i think the last 5 lest say years they are always doing the fem protagonist and we are like ok we like fem protagonist but can we also have a dude . No problem again with the fem protagonist some of my favorite games have fem protagonist´s and in the games that we make our own 8 out of 10 time i will make a fem but this with the fem protagonist it´s almost all the time now . I mean come on Jin was a really good character why not go on with his story As for Yotei lest see the story and the game first and then we will say that it´s woke if it is .
I really think they intentionally held back on Jin because of the movie. They probably don't want everyone to be tired of seeing Jin. After the movie though, there will be even more desire to see a Jin sequel game.
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I'll say it because the circlejerk of white knights in here isn't:
There's a demand for old school entertainment - that includes a male and masculine hero as the protagonist.
A game with a historical setting will always be more authentic and believable if it portrays the source material in an authentic way. History is history - no matter how you feel about it with your modern political preferences, there aren't noteworthy Japanese female warriors, because back in the day men went to war, women stayed at home. The few ones who had fighting training were usually defensive skills, like Naginata fighting for protection of the estate, not battlefield fighting skills.
You might not care about the female protag, but there will be a sizeable amount of people who will.
Ghost of Tsushima is a fictional historical game. It also had several female warriors. And if we are going to talk history, Japan didn't keep good records of female warriors. The only notable group of them being the Onna Bugeisha. Others were found through archaeological evidence. This is expected given the general status of women during those periods. Hell, even modern day Japan is still behind in women's right.
This isn't White Knighting, I'm simply stating facts. It's a fact that Sucker Punch works closely with Japanese historians. Well, at least they did for the first game. We shall see for the second one. So I will continue to have faith in Sucker Punch. By the way, old school entertainment has been full of female protags. Lara Croft, Kitana, Chun Li, Bayonetta, Samus... the list goes on. I know because I've been a gamer since the 80's.
@@LeoLeeGaming Sure, there were female protags in the past and many of them were great. But they weren't made by current day political activists who make the usual tropes:
- girboss, often Mary Sue
- Masculine, ugly or otherwise unattractive
Also games of the past weren't often going for a realistic depiction of anything - either due to setting or stylistic choice. It's easier to suspend disbelief if it's not set in a familiar setting.
@@Xaito Your points are irrelevant in entertainment.
That stuff may fly in historical documentaries and academic discussions, but not here. Ghost of Yotei and Ghost of Tsushima are works of *FICTION,* meaning those rules don't apply here.
Besides, what's so special about old school entertainment? We had that for decades (Like Arnold Schwarzenegger's films, the Rambo series and all of those pre-2010 military action movies), people got tired of it and decided to do something different.
@@AeonPhoenix Humans are great at pattern recognition. If you break the rules that people expect the world to behave by - without a credible explanation - it's going to make a less believable product. Simple as.
What was special about old school entertainment is that it was focused on giving people what they wanted. It was at some point replaced by all those superhero movies. I'm not into super hero movies, but I didn't complain because there was a clear demand being served. These days they're putting out stuff nobody is asking for because of some religion like adherence to woke, intersectional ideology.
@@Xaito Doesn't that go for every piece of media? Other genres either give something to a certain audience or possibly everyone.
Like I said, we had old school entertainment for decades, and people got bored of it and moved on. I think it's better to let people write the stuff they want to do rather than chase trends.
No, no it did not.
Im still buying. I dont care if its man or woman as long as its good.
Sucker Punch has NEVER made a bad game, I’m happy with the direction they are going, and I don’t mind them moving from Jin, because I know no matter what, they will come with a smash hit, even if its a female protagonist, because there are well written female protagonists, like Lara Croft from Tomb Raider, Freya in God of War, Ellie from TLOU, even tho the story of the 2nd game was kinda bad, her story was peak, and like you said Yuna, Masako and Tomoe aswell, I can’t wait for Ghost of Yotei and GTA 6
It's not about a female lead. It's about who she is and what she and the people who made this game stand for
But we don't know who she is yet. If you're referring to the actor, well this is an acting role. This is also still Sucker Punch who have a deep respect for Japanese history and culture.
@@LeoLeeGaming we'll see
@@LeoLeeGamingSadly game companies have been proven to be sell outs and not giving a shit about culture. They will do everything to complete their woke quotas
@@jimh2594so why are you making a judgement if you’re not sure??
Woke = female protagonist at this point, how is this label still being taken seriously
@@MrAkella33 because it's what it is
Get over or don't buy it??
Huh? I am 100% buying it.
@@LeoLeeGaming hey I'm sorry my bad?? I didn't like people calling it woke I should have paid attention a little bit more?
To ur video my bad?
@@bradcole3955 oh yea lol. Yea I was addressing the words that are being thrown at this game.
@@LeoLeeGaming people calling it work before they even found out who was the person playing the character?? Its crazy
Looks amazing but I prefer the original one. I'm just going to pretend the sequel doesn't exist. Too much political woke agenda these days.
Same. I’ll just do NG+ in the first one (one of my favourites). Passing on Yotei though.
Wtf do you mean “I prefer the original” you’ve basically seen nothing but the fact that she’s a woman 😂
What did you think of the lesbians and female warriors in the first game then????
@@fierce8943did you have a problem with all the woke stuff in the first game?
@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id we don’t care about the content in game when it is done well. Women within the actual games have always been prevalent, beloved, necessary and LGBT topics are cool in games at times too. Almost anything CAN be done well in a game.
And guess what? No players knew the politics or sexual preferences or beliefs of the people who made GoT. The way it should be.
The primary issues are with the real life studios. The people who craft the games we spend hard earned money on and love, to escape the heaviness of life, often hate their core audience. They create safe spaces incapable of criticism that would improve games. “Toxic positivity” and the refusal to acknowledge important variables like DEI that are hurting their sales.
They attack people with other beliefs and force them to self censor. They inject ideology into entertainment. They hire consultants like sweet baby inc (and countless similar consultants we’ve never heard of) that are the antithesis of their customer.
It’s not about a few examples in game. It’s about their distaste for their customer and the politicization of everything in gaming anymore. Men are not allowed to be masculine. Men are not allowed to want sexy characters. Studios are not allowed to take risks or be offensive. Men are not even considered for positions in these studios because they don’t meet diversity requirements.
They forgot who they’re selling games to. We will remind them.
Hipocrite redditors liking the first game and disliking the trailer
Since i was a kid in the 90s, i dont play female protags. Back then, it's because many females were promiscuously designed, and i legit felt uncomfortable with that. Not for any social reasons, just the way it was for me. I was insulted by others as being 'gay' because i didn't play games for sexual gratification. I dont get the "id prefer to stare at a womans butt rather than a mans butt" argument either. Bro, im not staring at anyone's butts lol.
Later on, i started to realize i was more-less roleplaying in my mind as the character im controlling. I found this very difficult to do as a female character. Again, my preference. I didn't hate female protag games. They just weren't for me.
Now, here in 2014-2024, i am insulted for the exact opposite reason, lol. And by the game developers themselves. I'm a bigot for not choosing a female character apparently. It started for me with Rome Total War 2 when the devs literally said if you didn't like them adding females to the armies in a later patch, the game isn't for you. So i said sure, if you say so, and un-installed it. NOW, im being told that if i dont like AND buy these games, i am a sexist. Clown world...
If the developers come out and say, "Hey, we get the feedback. Some people like the old protag, some people like playing dudes, and this won't be for everyone. But we have a story to tell with a female character and we think it will be good.". Awsome, do it. I am not going buy it but more power to them.
If instead they come out and insist i am evil or a "toxic gamer" because of my own preference, then i hope they crash and burn. Unfortunately, that's been 90% of female lead games in the last decade. So i understand peoples defensive nature. With this IP, i lean towards us not knowing enough about it yet, but fully expecting a hit piece on modern gamers/consumers from the company themselves soon. I hope I'm wrong.
Sorry for the wall of text. But it's a complex issue. Just wanted to be clear on my stance.
I love civil discourse! I am an old man too, 80's kid. I'm also the dude you described, I always picked female protags since I rather stare at their butts for hours and hours. But equally, I didn't mind Jin's hotspring butt in the first game rofl. Jokes aside, yea it's a deeper underlying issue, that's for sure. I'm just keeping faith in Sucker Punch due to how much respect they showed Japanese culture and history in the first game. I have faith they aren't going to do anything to jeopardize the relationship they have with their Japanese peers.
It's sad really, that people can't seem to have a civil discourse over subject matter such as this one. We have to resort to calling one another names.
@@LeoLeeGaming Sadly, it's encouraged on both sides. Game developers are just as guilty as the hyper-opinionated consumer in this area. Low sales ever being blamed on the ones purchasing (or not purchasing) your product has become FAR too common a practice in modern media-development of multiple forms, movies, games, and otherwise.
Not justifying anything by any means, but it's not hard for me to see why these particular situations have become so volatile. And every time people seem to lower their guard, they get smacked; on both sides even. Sad environment for really any form of entertainment. Everyone wants to make a difference in what THEY individually believe is a virtue. Some believe fighting the "woke" motives a virtue, some find fighting FOR "woke" motives a virtue, some people argue what "woke" even is, and everyone is fighting over the same IP's to call their own. Not sure how any of it is fun, personally. And I thought that's what games were about, Lol
Wtf is happening with the world
@@rE41L we can't have nice things any more.
@@LeoLeeGamingReally tho? How about Wukong? don't be so pessimistic man
@@negkenp like gold it is rare.
@@negkenp I'm referring to not being able to have a game come out without any of these controversies. Wukong had it's share as well. But whatever, I'm going to continue to play the shit outta them lol.
I sense a lot of "Anti Woke" overreach in the criticism on this one.
But I'm not really criticizing anyone. Encouraging faith in Sucker Punch.
@@LeoLeeGaming No not you I'm talking bout the Anti Woke brigade coming out for this game.
This might be a spin off game who knows
Hoping to see Jin again after the movie.
No
Great business move to divide the community on this game instead of pleasing EVERYONE.
i wonder if their next big brain plan will be to tell everyone "if you don't like it, don't play it" like concord did😂 way to ignore the radical activist thats already part of the drama as well
@@c4mprnapper932 lets wait first. Ghost of tsushima was incredible and very respectful. So i think the story they will tell will end up good. As long as it doesn't feel like a forced character, I don't see a problem. I gotta admit though that i feel like ghost of tsushimas story wasn't completed and i wished they had done a part 2 with Jin or even Yuna.
@@azamat19 i agree
Sooo you were fine with all the woke things in the first game?
@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id i didnt see anything woke in that game, maybe i have missed something in a sidequest. but absolutly nothing was woke about what i have experienced in my 55 hours of gameplay.
@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id i never finished it and don't really remember anything woke
Nothing wrong with female protagonists. But, this is a Sony title so based on that and the decisions we've seen them make I dont think its a stretch to say that the decision to have a female protagonist was more than simply a creative decision.
But, I also havent really seen anyone calling it "woke". I think most people are just gonna be disappointed we dont get to play as someone who the fans of the first game loved.
I place my faith in Sucker Punch and their deep respect for Japanese culture and history. They worked closely with Japanese historians in the first game and visited Tsushima multiple times. Even got honored on that island after the game. And as soon as the trailer was released, I saw so many people on FB and X calling it "woke". Now that the actor is known, it made those accusations worse. As for Jin, I still believe we will get a sequel to his story. There is a movie coming out too so maybe around that time.
Well, we are going to the mainland. I’m sure you probably know it by now by someone else’s comment
Oh its woke alright just from pattern recognition alone, the first was woke too but this will be way worse, an old school time period with modern day sensibilities, very immersive for the dorks buying this shit.
First trailee and you already having a period😂 grow up
The first game was woke? What crack are you smoking?
@@fufuisgreat5376 Cry about it
@@L1n-eX U were literally just crying in your comment
The problem about female protagonist is the context, cause all licences are now feminized so i think there will be some trouble for the release of this game…
wait and see…
Bruh what the Hell does that mean; all licenses are feminized? You sound like a paranoid weirdo lmao
Yapping nonsense
@@jsostick wait and see…
If Sucker Punch also has DEI department, than yes, this one will be woke. And the internet recently know who Erika Ishii is.
Its gonna be woke trash
Ok, I somewhat agreed with calling ac shadows woke, but really calling Ghost of Yotei woke? It's just a female lead, are we not allowed to have a female lead without it being woke? "Oh there weren't female Samurai" I don't recall them claiming she was one firstly, secondly SP never claims to go for historical accuracy they try to make a good representation of the place and culture their games are set in, well thirdly are ya'll forgetting about Lady Masako? Ya'll need to stop crying "woke" whenever a lead isn't how you want it.
Yes but it’s the theme of every game lately change from a male to female and make the female gay or non-binary oh and what happened the voice actor came out saying they are non-binary like why the fuck do we care and why the hell do you have to say it. If you don’t see some weirdo pattern here then you clearly live under a rock
No we are not allowed to hwve women being protagonists of stories that makes no sense
@@guilhermepicolloduarte8110 😭
I'm sick of the woke stuff like most people but I'm willing to give this game a benefit of a doubt. We don't know much about the character and the rest of the game. It's not a shoehorned character this is a totally new story in the same universe.
Plus we know Sucker Punch has a great relationship with Japan. I don't think they'd do anything to jeopardize that. They worked closely with Japanese historians the first time and I don't see why they wouldn't have for this one.
wat, having a female lead is woke now? bruh, where are all the brain dead people coming from calling everything woke?
Me watching the trailer. This is amazing. I hope they don't screw this up . A few days later . They found a way to screw this up . Due to hiring someone who works with sweet baby inc. so now just save $70 from this game and Wolverine
Game made for the “modern audience” which I am not a part of. I will not be giving them my money for this one. Enjoyed GoT though.
ghost of dei dragon age purple guard assassin's creed
the voice actress is an absolutely unhinged woke leftist
Bro, there is difference between Female character and female lead piggy backing off a successful franchise... IE the Ballerina movie....
Big Girlboss
This game is woke! Always replacing men who establish a game with strong female "I am woman hear me roar" characters! This game will be woke and will flop!
It's not woke because it's a female. It's woke because of who the voice actress is. She is literally a woke activist. A very radical and nasty one at that.
Would be 100% different if they chose a good actress without an agenda.
There are many other people who worked on this game. Its not fair to hate on the game just because one actress has different political views than you.
@yashinator-9699 It should be pointed out. Her views aren't political, they're social. It will hurt the other people who worked on the game.
@@TheRealBradleyAnderson ah yes, americans are very afraid of social views. equality for women, minorities and everybody, so scary
/PUKE ill wait until it goes into the woke clearance bin
the voice actress is an absolutely unhinged woke activist
Sooo what did you think of the lesbians in the first game?
@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id one of the reasons i liked the first game was historical accuracy . there were never any female Samurai . also tired of race and gender swaps.
@@JohnWayne-xy1gs Did you know John Wayne played a race swapped Genghis Khan? Also there were real female warriors who carried swords and used samurai armor.
@@americasteam2112 they did not race swap Genghis Khan .sure there were female warriors that used weapons of the period but they were not Samurai .
Nice and all but I will not buy it. Female samurai😅
Fool. Crippling yourself because oh no woman has weapon
Onna Bugeisha.
Sooo you were cool with the female warriors in the first game but not this one????
@@LeoLeeGaming These people don't even do the research before complaining. If it is indeed a story about revenge, who cares if she wields swords she's an outlaw? They forgot the there was a joan of arch for japan.
Wokexism is getting strong, Welp.
They will surely cite the Ainu racism issue and claim that the Japanese were racist.
Or they will claim that the Ainu people are black.
As a Japanese, I am fed up with having to fight not only UBI but also Sucker Punch!
What the hell is this?
Let me play the game like a normal person.
Ghost of Tsushima is my favourite game of all time - I'll NOT be getting this. I'm generally sick of female leads, and if Sucker Punch have gone woke, they can go without my money and support. They shouldn't employ a super-woke activist to be in their games.
So. Fking true tho
@@savage8210it literally isnt
Your right they can go without your money. A few dudes who are angry at the mere fact that they're playing as a woman won't change the possible hundreds of thousands that will give them their money
@@notmyemail506 True, but some people have standards!
@@lemming9984 your exactly right! Just like the people who are going to buy this game instead of ac shadows those people have standards
L take
Why don't you love me? 😭
@@LeoLeeGaming we didnt have problems with the female chars in the first game cz they were making the story of the male lead more relavant and interesting. most consumers r men, we wanna see men fight through difficulties, we wanna see brotherhood, we wanna see love for the protagonist from beautiful women. thats how we relate. sacrifice brotherhood love...
@@opinionated101 Women are actually just under 50% of gamers though since a 2023 study.
@@LeoLeeGaming thats because men dont like the games that are coming out nowadays. thats why the sales of vid games are also significantly down. cz men aint buyin these s#it$.
@@opinionated101bro redditor who thinks women are dolls