How to avoid spotting on Hydophobic Glass - Water Fed Window Cleaning
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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In this vid, I show you what might be going wrong if you are leaving spotting on hydrophobic glass. This is glass where it tends to bead a lot rather than sheet down the glass. There are several reasons which we are aware of like tds and frame vents but one of the reasons is misunderstood...........
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Gardiner pole with there new 100 fan jets amazing results 👍
Hello, i have just got a Facelift Big Boy backpack, how are you stop and starting your backpack when your holding your pole and your away from the trolley ?? Regards Ian Picken
I kink the pole hose. The hose is Rhino tube from Reach-iT though which is one of the best to be able to do this. Then, when I want to walk away, I just stuff it into the Reach-iT kink - a small bit of tube that is attached to the pole. se the video on it here: ua-cam.com/video/vT5nwkf0FN0/v-deo.html
I've had a few customers during Corona lockdown have cleaned there Windows down stairs using fairy liquid there now hydrophobic 🤔
Great video! Been using the pole for years but still get spotting problems from time to time.
Beading is the main problem with WFP's. It's nothing to do with dirt on the window or dirt on your equipment, your cleaning the window just fine with these. It's all to do with droplets forming and then attracting dirt from the air as it dries. No amount of rinsing will dry out properly.
I was a WFP user 10 years ago but have since stopped using it. I am considering getting another system and being selective to certain jobs.
Thanks for the video though.
Hi Chris always had problems cleaning hydrophobic glass as it spotted alot but I now added a water softener cartridge to my purification system and has really made a difference no spotting
My water is quite high over 400 ppm so the water softener for me a real benefit along with an anti scale filter two 20 inch filters 5 micron size sediment and carbon and a dual di vessel I can’t go wrong
Just do it by hand
Lol
Good tips :-)
Also 050 will this cause spotting
Technically no but it is not worth the risk. You can remain confident if you stick to say 015 and under.
I would never go above 010. I've tried at 015 like you said Wagga and it caused spotting. Stuck to what was told me by a trusted local wfp guy and never have any problems.
Hi Paul, I was thinking of doing a fan jet video. The issue I have with this is that you must have the equipment to drive the fan jets properly or they won't work right. For example if you have a backpack, then it is unlikely that you will get enough pressure and flow to get a good fan. Mostly I think it's more about people needing to upgrade their systems. A good rinse can be achieved with all types of jets but with a powerful system, 100 degree fans can be unbelievable. I have to get the video done....
Will be patiently waiting, thanks!
I'm currently using the Tucker rinse bar with my Hudson backpack and it's plenty of pressure. Hudson is from the US.
Hi Chris what's a good starter pole and brush for obvious first cleans and sills? .. currently following your build for a trolley system :-) trying to be as cost effective as I can as I'm a tradder but want to try wfp .. cheers James
Get a Harris pole from B & Q - really cheap and will get you going. You will need an angle adapter too and a bit of DIY. As for a brush, there are no real cheap options. Gardiners do extemely light sill brushes but it will pay off to get one.
Hi Chris, thanks for the vids. Extremely helpful. Can I ask, by the time you were fininshed there was still droplets on the window. Is this normal with hydrophobic glass ? and did thet#y , or will they dry back spotless as it were ? Thanks Again !!
R Wheeler Hi, yes this is the way it works. You just leave the glass wet and if you have done it right, then there will be no spots. Good scrub and even better rinse.
Maybe this is a daft idea, but why spend all that time and water rinsing? Why not just blade it off when it's a window that's quite easy to reach? I know that the squeegee doesn't glide too well using pure water, but it can be done. Precisely zer chance of spotting then!
Waterfed pole alone won't get a really dirty window clean enough. Also I can go up with a strip washer bronze woolmand be done much quicker. Double hung windows are also some.of.ykur toughest to rinse
Hi, great video. Starting wfp next month. Do i see bubbles in your water? Do you use an additive?
At the time of making this video, I did use an additive called Vision. It works well but is not necessary.
Christopher Dawber thanks, i have thought about using something like vision, still not convinced you can clean a window with just water.... But i know it works dont get me wrong, gonna have to see results when i try mine out in next couple of days.
Luke Farnham yes I think you will be just fine.
hi wagga, love your insight into the window cleaning game.
I'm currently trying out different flow delivery's for the wfp, I have been experimenting with fan jets, 4 jets, 2pencil and 2fan jets,
can you please do a video on the effectiveness off different flow delivery systems on different types of glass?
I know its a big ask but something I cant seem to work out for myself and I'm sure it would be great help for others too.
its something that's been debated on the forums and people swear by 100 degree fans or two pencils or rinse bars but there is no real evidence only opinions.
with the way you investigate and and test things you would be the ideal person for the job.
been a big fan of yours for years
many thanks
paul
The windows would be done
In 2 minutes
Hi Chris, been following you for years and you have helped me set up my wee business over last 6 years many thanks, my concern with this higher pressure is time it takes to empty/ refill backpack compared to lower pressure longer rinse method, is higher pressure worth time loss? Olso what size jets are you using
Thanks again
James
Hi and thank you its nice to know. It's actually a higher flow rate rather than pressure but anyway, it is worth using more water as you will work faster and get more reliable results as the rinse will be more consistent. Mind you, we are talking about maintenance cleans and doing tops only whilst using some sort of tap system efficiently to conserve water.
Excellent tutorial!
I've just started wfp, if I kink the pipe to stop the water, will it do any harm to the pump in my back pack. Thanks
No
That was really great.. Thank you... 😉
nice demonstration cheers...
it's the rinse bar and swivel I like the looks of. what's the postage for them to the uk
I don't remember to be honest. I do know it can work out quite expensive all in though.
Thanks for the video, how are you turning off the flow to your brush heads constantly?
I just kink the pipe. It's Rhino tube which works best for this by the way.
Awesome video.
where's the best place to buy the constructor brush and what style of brush is it
store.futureofcleaning.com/
Its a specially designed brush which you can change the bristles at will. It also has a top mounted rinse bar which is amazing. Normally, you would use the swivel that has been designed specifically for it and is one of the most ergonomic systems in the world.
Exellent
definitely agree that rain water works better on hydro glass. i think it's something to do with it having a stronger surface tension
Rainwater is the way to go if you can harvest enough.
Cleaned windows today used di vessel to fill containers only 3 25ltr ones, on the third container the tds went up 050ppm should this happen so quick when it's new. Thanks Russell
How big is your DI vessel? How full is it with resin and how high is your tap water?
@@MyWagga hi Chris di vessel 11L filled 3/4 full with resin tap water 154ppm
Just an observation. Univalve!! Lol save you kinking the pipe every time
I like the pipe outside the pole so I kink it.
Christopher Dawber fair enough each to there own. Keep up the good work all these videos help no end I just haven’t got the bollocks to do it myself. I have struggled with hydrophobic glass so this has helped me.
Would using a bronze wool pad on hydrophobic glass to pre clean it before using the main waterfed brush help reduce spotting on glass
Yes it might do. I used a magic eraser on one window and it made quite a difference.
@@MyWagga I think it's practice and technique before the end result
I never thought about a magic eraser
What kind of pump system is he using ti get the velocity and flow?
We have a hard time getting a good flow at heights above the 2nd floor.
It's only a backpack but with only about 30 ft of hose on it. The Gardiners one is best.
What would be your go to pole?
I reckon the Gardiners SLX range.
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I got horrendous spotting at 012 on well maintained glass but that was from filtered RO/DI tap water. I use rainwater now and it's the best water I've used. Hardly get any spotting with it
Maybe that's the way to go.
My tap water is 350-400 and the RO brings it to 016. There is so much waste water that's produced. Very inefficient. I store about 2250 litres of rain water and most of my work is bladed so I have an abundance of naturally distilled then deionised water after it comes out my van tank
@@polznbladz3242 Just a quick question - what do you do about filtration? I have 2 pre-filter at 1 my and 0,025 my and then the double di vessel.
@@MrFixItDK Just a long life di vessel. The water is practically 000
@@polznbladz3242 I can get a reading of 000 and still have spots on some windows. My thought was that it was a filter issue, but you use none?
sir whats is ur number 1 brush u use...
The main one I use is the Reach-iT Constructor brush.
Christopher Dawber hi Chris good stuff, is that brush compatible with gardener poles?
Only just. It will fit - just. I tend not to worry too much about it and make things do what I want in the end. It works fine but it is a tight fit in the first clamp of the Gardiners pole but it's ok.
Christopher Dawber thanks Chris also would you ever consider running tap water through your backpack just to clean a conservatory roof?
Yes - it's a good idea and I have done it before.
Which length SLX do you go with? In general?
I have the SLX-35 but I only use the first three sections on domestic and only get out the rest if I really need it.