So what you're saying is that not all notes have to be the same size in the piano roll? How would we know which ones should be short and which long. Isn't it better to simply have them all the same size.
id say the notes you want to emphasize should be the ones you lengthen (but expermient for urself here), when musicians play instruments they kinda do this instinctively but when we r composing on a computer we need to manually add in all these samll variations to get the same feel
If your play your melodies on a midi controller, for an example, you see that the notes are not even. Some are longer, shorter. This gives a natural feeling in my opinion. Off course, you can always put the notes, on the grid, if it´s sounding off.
@@rachidow2125 To piggy back on that comment, Imagine your electronic instrument as something you actually play. It's easy to slip into the pitfall of clicking in notes and not humanizing them. I think what can be really helpful is study some bass players and even import bass playing audio . If you have an AI ripper, just extract the basslines in some old funk music and study what they look like. When you actually learn to play your midi keyboard, this starts to become a little easier I feel. I think most importantly, you have to establish a general groove with the drums in order to help you come up with something "Groovy". There are also midi packs out there that probably have pre-programmed midi basslines you can study. Cheers
Yea I love this! That’s right when you take concepts used in writing sheet music or writing for traditional instruments, it really does make sense. Thanks for making this!
This is key when it comes to writing synth solos. its crazy how much of a difference just note lengths make alone, not to mention velocity and filter variations.
Amen ..you are wise beyond your years ma man. SPACE is a sound ! People now a days focus too much on the complexity of the sound instead of focusing on the most important part THE GROOVE
Yes adding groove to your pattern gives feeling, also adding space between bars gives it time to breathe and adds tension especially after 16 bar or 32 note or this case 4th bar
It's the feel and the emotions that make a track beautiful and memorable. I started my journey in electronic music from house in the mid 90's and just staying in this genre it's plenty of beautiful tracks made with few elements. Think about the old all time hits. They could even sound bad compared to modern tracks but it's the idea, the right choice of those few elements and how they are programmed/arranged that make those tracks what they are, not the maniacal attention to sound design (which as you said, could make the track lacking of soul most of the times). Moreover, back in the day they were making music with machines, and the limitation increase creativity requiring deep learning and experimentation with the instrument/machine. Btw, in your first example it's like you've basically put just the long notes of the bass because the attack of the short notes doesn't sound like a bass but more like a toned percussion making a swinged 16th groove under a bass pattern of long/mid notes...Not so intuitive as example, imho. 🤝
Simple, groove and space is my mantra. Ooh I would like to add, Bruce Swedien who helped Michael Jackson record thriller would leave space before he would bring in a new sound so the you would notice it.
For a night owl, going to bed so early, very early, is priceless. but UA-cam tutorials turn me on. Obviously it also depends on who makes them and how they express themselves. I'm starting the night, I won't post anymore, as it couldn't have been better!
I tried coming out from a different perspective. I’m pretty much a guitar player that has been playing death/slam metal for decades and I’m trying to bring that into electronic music.
So what you're saying is that not all notes have to be the same size in the piano roll? How would we know which ones should be short and which long. Isn't it better to simply have them all the same size.
id say the notes you want to emphasize should be the ones you lengthen (but expermient for urself here), when musicians play instruments they kinda do this instinctively but when we r composing on a computer we need to manually add in all these samll variations to get the same feel
I agree that it should be mostly instinctively. You can't always explain groove, but you can feel it.
If your play your melodies on a midi controller, for an example, you see that the notes are not even. Some are longer, shorter. This gives a natural feeling in my opinion. Off course, you can always put the notes, on the grid, if it´s sounding off.
@@rachidow2125 To piggy back on that comment, Imagine your electronic instrument as something you actually play. It's easy to slip into the pitfall of clicking in notes and not humanizing them. I think what can be really helpful is study some bass players and even import bass playing audio . If you have an AI ripper, just extract the basslines in some old funk music and study what they look like. When you actually learn to play your midi keyboard, this starts to become a little easier I feel. I think most importantly, you have to establish a general groove with the drums in order to help you come up with something "Groovy". There are also midi packs out there that probably have pre-programmed midi basslines you can study. Cheers
Simple and efficient, way more instructive than say 80% of the content I've been through in the past few months. Thank you
Thank u!
by far the best content ive ever watched in music prod, dont stop - youre going to blow up
That was a perfect video. Context, length, technique, relevance…all around great video
looking for a video about swinging the cloced hats .
Yea I love this! That’s right when you take concepts used in writing sheet music or writing for traditional instruments, it really does make sense. Thanks for making this!
That trick with the lfo in combination with the velocity is so clever, I wish I had came up with it myself long ago
Once again solid video that actually touches up on the small things that make the biggest difference
Great vid pal! Thanks for shedding light on this concept
this has just changed my whole thought process now. Thank you
This is key when it comes to writing synth solos. its crazy how much of a difference just note lengths make alone, not to mention velocity and filter variations.
Yes! i used bass examples in this vid but wanna do another where i make lead sounds with the same idea
Great tutorial! Subscribed
Amen ..you are wise beyond your years ma man. SPACE is a sound ! People now a days focus too much on the complexity of the sound instead of focusing on the most important part THE GROOVE
FACTS
thankyou i needed this to help remind me to keep it simple, grateful 😉
thanks dude! this actually makes sense
Such good advice , love the perspective 👏 Thxx+
Thanks for watching!
Yes adding groove to your pattern gives feeling, also adding space between bars gives it time to breathe and adds tension especially after 16 bar or 32 note or this case 4th bar
It's the feel and the emotions that make a track beautiful and memorable. I started my journey in electronic music from house in the mid 90's and just staying in this genre it's plenty of beautiful tracks made with few elements. Think about the old all time hits. They could even sound bad compared to modern tracks but it's the idea, the right choice of those few elements and how they are programmed/arranged that make those tracks what they are, not the maniacal attention to sound design (which as you said, could make the track lacking of soul most of the times). Moreover, back in the day they were making music with machines, and the limitation increase creativity requiring deep learning and experimentation with the instrument/machine.
Btw, in your first example it's like you've basically put just the long notes of the bass because the attack of the short notes doesn't sound like a bass but more like a toned percussion making a swinged 16th groove under a bass pattern of long/mid notes...Not so intuitive as example, imho. 🤝
Thanks for the comment I definitely agree, a different bass sound could’ve gotten the point across better
@bitemyshite can you give me the link please?
wow almost starting to get a garage feel from this rather than techhouse.
excellent video. I subbed
Great video!! Giving zeds dead house vibes
what a content brother!
Hey, it’s the bass sound man. You inspired me to make a few bangers after watching that video.
Wait I love this exercise
its a fun way to find cool accent patterns and rhythms!
Great video!
thanks for sharing bro
greattt
Simple, groove and space is my mantra. Ooh I would like to add, Bruce Swedien who helped Michael Jackson record thriller would leave space before he would bring in a new sound so the you would notice it.
Fantastic tip thanks for sharing
thanks
Note length, note velocity, accents.
Everyone loves charismatic accents.
For a night owl, going to bed so early, very early, is priceless. but UA-cam tutorials turn me on. Obviously it also depends on who makes them and how they express themselves. I'm starting the night, I won't post anymore, as it couldn't have been better!
is the bass side chained to the hat loop ?
I tried coming out from a different perspective. I’m pretty much a guitar player that has been playing death/slam metal for decades and I’m trying to bring that into electronic music.
welcome! there are so many cross-genre opportunities with electronic music
Operator and Smile will get you 93.14159 of the distance there 😂
Okay subbed bc wow
Glad u found it helpful!
agree
Ala deadmau5
subbed immediately after the cringe 'musicality' face lmao
in one of dada life's old videos they mention how they spent a very long time on the length of ONE note in one of their songs.
Dude I fuckin love dada life
Gross presets. Go back to the SH101 solid bass preset
teenagers are now meting out production advice on youtube? lmao man
I’m taking this as a compliment
what’s your problem? this is solid advice, jealous?