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Dark is a series that asked a lot of questions over its three seasons. Now that the Netflix original series from Germany has come to an end it’s time to look at the unanswered questions from Dark. In this Q&A video we looking at the following mysteries:
Why did Noah build the chair time machine when one already existed?
Why did Noah and Helge abduct and kill the kids?
Where did Agnes go when she traveled at the end of her story?
What happened to Woller’s eye?
What did the Unknown trio kill all those people?
Why did Jonas and Martha see each other as children on the bridge between worlds?
Why was Katharina named that in the origin world if her mother didn’t meet Hannah there?
After Jonas and Martha stop the car crash doesn’t the loop continue?
How did Claudia know to use the loophole that time?
Why didn’t Claudia travel to the origin world herself?
We answer these and many more in this season 3 finale questions video.
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Dark season 3 introduced the idea of quantum entanglement, and split realities that can exist simultaneously. This left some fans with questions about how things worked in the Dark universe, and if the characters really had free will. We explain how time travel works, and how determinism influences things.
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The third season of Dark was more complicated than its previous installments. With two worlds, more characters, and time periods that stretch farther than the ones we’ve already seen. The concept of quantum entanglement was introduced with multiple realities existing alongside each other. This Dark video explains the ending of the story and what it means for each of the characters.
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This Dark “Questions and Answers” video covers all 3 seasons of the show, and all 8 episodes of the final season. We explain what happened to Jonas and Martha’s at the end, and explain the mysteries that are still unanswered. The origin world is the only one left at the end, and we discuss what that means about characters we knew for the old world.
Dark season 3 is one of the best for this Netflix series. The showrunners gave the series the ending that they had envisioned, and we think that Dark fans will enjoy it.
In the third and final season, DARK reaches its mind-bending conclusion, moving beyond the concept of space and time. Upon arrival in a new world, Jonas tries to make sense of what this rendition of Winden means for his own fate, while the ones left behind in the other world are left on a quest to break the loop that now not only bends time but also space. Two worlds. Light and dark. And in the center a tragic love story of epic proportions.
What Dark theories are you thinking about as we head into season 3? How would you like to see the series end? Are you excited about the new shows Baran Bo Odar and Jantje Friese are making on Netflix after Dark is finished?
Let us know what you think about the first Dark season 3 trailer in the comments, and let us know what questions you have about this Netflix Original.
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Tried my best to discuss the most frequently asked questions in the comments of my Dark season 3 videos. Hope this is helpful, let me know what you think.
Can u explain how Charlotte named handy clock travelled in this series.......
Really helpful video! :)
I have doubt that I asked previously but didn't found logically convincing answer. It would be great if you could help me out.
If in the end, Adam's aim was to kill alternate Martha then why sent her to save Jonas during Apocalypse and have baby with younger alt-Martha? Why not kill her before that? Why even send her to save Jonas?
Adam's aim was to break the knot, then he should have killed alt-Martha rather than sending her to save Jonas during apocalypse. Him sending alt-Martha to save Jonas was the reason of Unknown being born.
X-Phoenix Knight My take on that was, that Adam needed to convince Alt Martha that he is on her side, wants to help save her world. So he prolly made up some BS story that she needed to save Jonas from the apocalypse by taking him to her world etc. So that later on he can betray her and kill her, thus destroying the “Origin”
I have one thing that I want an answer of. If Old Claudia used the Apocalypse time glitch to send herself on a different path to Adam, then why does she then goes to Adult Claudia and tell her that everything is finally going to end? And thereafter she supposedly goes back to 1954 to tell Egon that she's sorry and gets killed. Am I missing something here?
You have not talk about problem it called the grandfather paradox.
It when you go back in time and kill you grandfather for example.
Because of you actions, you do not existed and so for you do not kill you grandfather.
Because you grandfather is live and you're born and then later you kill you grandfather.
By killing you grandfather, you do not exist by doing this makes the Godfather paradox.
Couple and child had car accident and dies
Father builds time machine
martha and jonas goes back in time and save couple and child by stopping them
Couple and child are live and father does not builds time machine
martha and jonas does not existed because of this can't go back in time to save couple with kid
Because of this couple and kid dies from car accident.
Father builds time machine and now
martha and jonas does exist and keeps on going around
Poor Bartosz. Seeing his reaction when his baby is born and then when Silja names him Hanno. He knew right there it was all setup. And then to be killed by his own son.
He didn't know that Noah would kill him.
@@rinmartell2678 nobody said he did know
Hanno is an anagram for Noah. An interesting detail.
@@YumiSumire It's not Nnoah.. so it's not an anagram.
An anagram will have the exact same letters and the same number of times.
@@RB-bm7cl yes, not exactly.
Imagine Jonas and Marta getting to the origin world, then being selfish and running off to live a normal life...
They should have done that, they deserved to live a normal life
I honestly thought they were going to kill tannaus or whatever his name is
The Unknown will be born & the loop will be starting all over again...
what if it actually exists? in a different world/timeline 😁
@@marioalbertofloresjr.5215 Tannhaus
The only bad thing about dark is that now I expect every show to be just as good
Exactly!
I've had the same feelings over other shows but not this, I think dark is overrated I mean I liked it, but I have seen much better shows, with much better elaborated plots, including anime,
If you think that this is a good show, it is because you do not know other series apart from those of Netflix, as I say, there are even anime that are considered bad, that have a better plot than dark,
dark is overrated by people who don't even watch series casually
@@joelacosta889 I mean, I don't dedicate my life to watch series, but if you do and find other shows better that is ok.
The haunting of hill house it's pretty good man, not close enough to dark but good
Not me, but I've heard that Breaking Bad it's equally good
Joel Acosta okay i respect your opinion but like, dark is the most complicated series i have ever seen, have you ever watched something that hard to understand?
Claudia couldn't interfere in the origin world because there's a version of her there! If she had tried to change things there, she may have created more loops. She decides to try sending jonas and Martha there and it works because they don't exist in that world. I do think they are a shadow of taunhaus kid and his wife, which is also pretty cool. I love the ending!
Good one, it makes sense
This checks out
I also think that's how Claudia knew about the original world. Because Claudia WAS in the original world, unlike Adam and Eva. They were stuck forever in a loop, while Claudia was able to learn more and more knowledge when each loop ended.
@Account99 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Account99 😂🤣
I've now spent more time watching UA-cam videos explaining Dark than I did watching all 3 seasons!
Haha. I wouldn't be able to calculate the ratio of the time watching to time reading/discussing.
Hahaha same
Aha
You say that like you only watched the show all the way through one time
Maybe if you had watched Dark more you did not have to look for explanation videos.
The moral of Dark: Don't ever invent a time machine. Because if you do, you end up doing it not.
"Neither ever, nor never"
Exactly
I think the real moral is: Don't fuck your aunt.
@@Nnnmmmkkk bruh
No the moral is the opposite: create a time machine to save your family. Tannhaus succeeded in saving his family (with the help of Jonas and Marta)
Respect Martha for having bangs all her life.😧
I WAS ALWAYS BOTHERED BY THAT!!
😂 😂 😂
I had them all my life too so far so I didn't see anything weird about that.
@@DieAlteistwiederda how old are u? She had them when she was a child till she was very very old.
LMAO! 😂
Imagine applying this ending to the real world. Time travel could have been invented in our world an infinite number of times, always giving rise to timeloops, that eventually destroy themselves before we ever know they existed.
🤯🤯🤯
Imagine if we’ve all gone through some world ending trauma but time travel was created and reversed this so we then never lived through that trauma
Immense possibilities..immense multiverses..endless loops reality related to references
Creation and existence are a bootstrap paradox itself.
@@gravendanger Maybe Corona ís the next world ending event and were currently living through it until time travel gets invented and it never happens
I honestly think it was the perfect ending
Never believe anything else.
But with a lot of questions
@Chinh Nguyen Don't you dare compare this brilliant show to Lost!
@Chinh Nguyen
Dark: 3 brilliant seasons, perfect ending.
Lost: 4 good seasons, 2 shitty ones and one of the worst last episodes I have ever watched.
@@MixtapeMessiah92 am I the only one that likes the ending of lost lol
Noahs time machine was built to send helge back to his time, so that he could grow up to become adult helge that helps build the same time-machine. Another loop in the story.
But couldn't Helge be sent back to 1953 through the cave?
@@anasarracena The Stranger closed it at the end of season 1
@@anasarracena Noah sent Helge to 1954.
One year after incident 1953.
Ulrich hit Helge's Face.
And put him into bunker.
And then somehow, portal between timeline created.
He see Jonas.
Helge sent to 1987, Jonas Sent 2053.
Sorry my bad english.
Danz Putra When Helge and Jonas see each other in the bunker, portal was created when the Stranger destroyed the passage in the cave. Jonas sent to 2053, Helge to 1954, not 1987 as mentioned at the end. Now, question is why didn’t they end up in the same place as Charlotte and Elizabeth did?🤔
@@imalwayssleepy7997 Helge is sent to 1987 then with the chair back to 1954, but I also have the last question.
Adam = oldest man; clueless
Eve/Eve = oldest woman; clueless
Claudia = snake = holder of all knowledge
Apple that changed the world = pokeball time machine that changed the worlds
I’ve been asking myself all this time “who is the snake” in the picture of Adam&Eve. 🤯🤯🤯
H. G Tanause = God; created both of the worlds
Imagine a strong love that creates two worlds
Jonas was his anger of tanhaus losing his child and Martha of alt world was his love and affection towards his child
reminds me quarks have moods and flavors
Great theory !
I woild say the tanhaus son and son's wife were like Jonas and Martha. And there child being with blue eyes the son of them you can see that in the original world also. Jonas angers represents Tanhaus son and Martha like his wife as she loves the child. A wild guess
Dark should sell the Triqueta book.
Yes
I want that pendant too
I don't remember watching a show as satisfying as Dark ever. I am still bemused by the sheer amount of detail and work that has gone into making this masterpiece. And now... What else can I watch?
Peaky Blinders. Get past 3rd epi...for some ...and you are good. Totally diff and entertaining.
The Leftovers on HBO, Westworld (season 1 only) also on HBO, and Devs on FX.
Stein's gate
@@debbielynn6291 thanks Debbie. I loved them too and I can't wait to the next season.... 😊
@@janechoy2073 thanks will check them out
Scene in "corridor" when they see each other is to prove, that it was all meant to happen. Martha says "so it wasn't a dream" - so she remembers this. It means they don't break the cycle, but just follow steps, they were supposed to.
That's what I don't understand...will u please explain??
I agree. I think at least everything up to that point was supposed to happen as it always has. Somewhere after is where they break the loop
@@crunkmonkiee yes, but I think that there was no "the loop" at the end. There were small loops, which made Adam think there is, but there was no older Adam. it was like with sending satelites into space, they go around Earth to gain momentum and at some point goes out. Same here - Adam was spinning all the loops to go out of orbit.
Yeah I think it was meant to happen, they needed the loop to exist, and they needed the bridge to escape the loop. A crazy theory is that maybe Tannhaus from the original world knew all along that the only way to change the past without creating a loop was if someone that didn't exist in that world changed it. Pretty much 7:43.
I believe that that moment wasn’t part of the loop but just happend across all the times the loop existed. When they are in the “tunnel” they are theorethicaly outside of time and loop therefore this doesn’t have to repeat like everything other in the show. It happened just once but was “broadcasted” to the loop every time Marta opened the cupboard and Jonas opened the door.
I must say that the last scene of season 2 really had me dreading a crappy ending to the show. Bringing in alternate realities seemed like it was bound to take all bets off the table and just break all the logic the show had so carefully built up.
But they did an excellent job with it! I was very happy to see they didn’t go with infinite realities. And with the storyline of Tannhaus’s experiment ripping time in two we had a fine explanation of why only two realities (though later they add (at least?) two more).
I agree. I thought the show went too far with all the timelines and then the other world. I thought '53, '86 and '19 was enough complexity as is. I still think Dark could have been just as amazing with just those 3 timelines. But boy, did they deliver and created arguably the most complex series and finished in a grand fashion.
i was so devastated by that! i even didnt get the first scene of the 3rd season where there are a lot of people in 1880s clothes - i thought writers got mad and made a third reality where all the characters live in the past. im pretty happy with the ending but first 2 or 3 episodes of 3d season drove me crazy
Same! So glad they worked it out so well!
I do think they actually mentioned that there were infinite parallel timelines at some point early in s3, though. Like there is Adam's world and Eva's world who share a timeline, but there are infinite versions of that timeline. Martha2 saves Jonas after Martha1 is killed, Martha2 doesn't save Jonas, Bartosz stops Martha2 from saving Jonas, etc.
9:29: Someone on Reddit came with this: It had to be Marta and Jonas, who travel to the original world. They're going to save MARek TAnnhaus and SONJA (Marta and Jonas). They are essentialy the same entities (souls, energies, whatever you want). They had to sacrifice their beings so that the original couple could live.
OMG 😮 Martha is written with an H, so in MARek TAnnHaus; Jonas is the anagram of Sonja.
OMG 😮 Martha is written with an H, so in MARek TAnnHaus; Jonas is the anagram of Sonja.
The ball time machine is a bootstrap paradox, it has no beginning or ending.
In S2 finale the martha that saves jonas is finally captured by adam and she gets killed. Thus adam gets the ball time machine from her and adam sends old magnus franziska with that ball time machine to world 2. They are the ones who will give other world martha the ball time machine in first place to save jonas in S2 finale.
And also due to other world martha spilt reality. Eve also has a ball time machine which is used by other world bartoz , other world claudia in many scenes.
So it has no origin. It caught up indefinitely in the loop without a creation.
man i never thought about this. I was expecting to be revealed how alt tannhaus made it but this makes more sense
I thought the same, but there are multiple of those. At the very least 4 or 5 of those ball time machines being used by Eve's version of the travelers. So Noah, Egon, Bartozs, all of them must have one of their own, aside from Martha's and Claudia's. Both Claudia and Eva have such a better understanding of the loop than Adam, though, that it wouldn't be surprising if actually all of the balls existed due to a bootstrap paradox preserved by Eva (so that she can have all the machines that she need) and Claudia (so that she can steal it from herself and keep researching the cycle).
It's easy to explain. Traveling through time is risky, see Adam's face. You have to have balls of steel to jump around in time like a maniac.
its called pokemon ball lol.
Jonas “what’s that ball thingy?” then five minutes later he knows all the settings and times the jump perfectly
The scene in the light tunnel means this: even when they are sitting next to each other in the caves waiting for Tannhaus to start the machine, when this happens they are separated and each one start walking through different tunnels, and this because they are from different loops or worlds. So each one is walking through the particles flow at the moment their worlds are being created, and in their way to the central tunnel which leads to the Origin World they find each other's child version. This means that from the very beginning of the creation of their worlds a connection between them was established, a very strong connection indeed, which we can call it an "error", an error in this matrix which will knott both worlds, because this Jonas and this Martha are indeed from different worlds.
That leads us to the next answer: because they are the "error" that knotted both worlds, they are the ones who have to untie it.
The time bridge scene indicates that of all the possibilities that were going to happen, this one was bound to happen someday. It was part of their fate.
The show that cannot be recreated by anyone else.
I would like to find a way to unsee it (time travel maybe??!!!!) so that i can watch it again knowing nothing! And start a loop with that for myself 😋🤣
Why do you think Claudia’s secretary had to die?
There are so many things that Dark characters do just to confuse people and make the plot intriguing. But the creators don't have any explaination for them.
I think because she would have called the police to get The Unknown arrested which would have prevented him from causing the malfunction of the power plant which causes the radioactive waste and so the apocalypse and anything else never would have taken place.
She had the master keys to the plant that they were look for all episode :)
Because Alexander tiedamann AKA Boris niewald be the power plant's chair man
I think everyone who isn't connected to the Loop Always dies in the two mirror worlds
My take on Jonas and Martha's separate visions covered in black cesium was that they were manifestations of subconscious memories from being their loops countless times. A form of deja vu.
Plot twist: Pete is actually Baran Bo Odar.
Who is pete? N who is baran bo odar?
@@ayushbhardwaj9733 baran bo odar director h iska
Ayush Bhardwaj pete is the the youtuber that uploaded this video
The one concept I may love most about this whole series as it appears to be completely original is that, although it is often alluded in the series that this is an endless cycle, it both is and isn’t.
In a sense, the events happen over and over again due to the causality of past and present being broken, on the other hand every time someone dies they actually die and that is the end for them.
It’s only through the ‘exogenous’ factor of the journal that any new information can be brought to each new loop and any learning and change can take place
Another great video, on first watch of season 3 I was unhappy with all the loose ends, but on second watch, it made sense to me. We ain't ment to be spoon fed everything, this gives the show lastibility. If we know everything we move on and put the show behind us, but the mystery keeps the show alive forever, twin peaks is a great example of this....
Agreed. It's definitely a series that continues to deliver on multiple viewings.
Pete I’ve really enjoyed listening to you discussing Dark. Gonna miss all of this. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it. There is currently a Dark sized hole in things now that the show is over. Hopefully something will show up on the horizon.
Pete Peppers That is for sure! Perhaps there’ll be some other questions and or ideas that may someday/sometime you’ll wanna come back and discuss further.🤞😊
Pete Peppers I also saw on the creator’s Instagram that Netflix has asked them to work on another project. Although different at least we’ll have something else from them to look forward to. 😊
For me, Claudia really manages to break the deterministic loop (likely because she is the only character who does so autonomously, by her own initiative and struggle). The "never lose hope" Claudia kills her evil alter-ego, the "sagacious" Claudia - and becomes freed from any outer agency. Which makes possible for Jonas and Martha to make a genuine sacrifice of their own, and not just to get rid of suffering by a mere suicide.
Probably the most surprising and powerful religious metaphor I saw in my entire life.
8:20 its funny how people are still perceiving time is still "in sequence", the bridge itself is technically "point of singularity" where all "point" meets(much alike that "interstellar singularity/tesseract scene"). the show gives reasons to show in first season, "Its not a line but a loop", the second season goes "its not only one loop but a numbers of loops(if connected at all)", in the third season, "the connecting points in between the loops".
I think Adam's and Eva's worlds were erased in one reality, but they still exist in another. Quantum entanglement. The only way Jonas and Martha could've prevented the car accident is if the reality exists where Tannhaus is devastated by the death of his son which pushes him to create the time machine and inadvertently split the world into a triquetra of pain and death. It's sad, but it's the only way to explain what happened while keeping with the logic established by all the events of the show. The existence of these two worlds and the suffering of everyone in them is the sacrifice needed to keep the Tannhauses alive. A reality now exists where Marek and Sonja and the baby never die and Tannhaus is never sad.
Another way I like to look at it, is Marek and Sonja and the baby's deaths, and Tannhaus's subsequent experimentation with time travel, created the other worlds as tumors that grew out of each side of Origin World. Two cancerous lesions full of incest and death and nuclear disaster, that exist parallel to an Origin World where the Tannhaus family lives happily ever after. And to the characters in Origin World, as in the final dinner party scene, those worlds exist as mere ideas or dreams or flashes of déjà vu. It's like Schrödinger's cat. Those worlds only truly exist if you go in and look at them. Just like there is an acceptable reality where the cat is alive, there's an acceptable reality where Adam and Eva's worlds don't exist.
The show ending with the dinner scene in Origin World is a perfect artistic choice. It ends the shows on a good and hopeful note, instead of showing anything from the other two worlds where the characters are living in dysfunctional realities of pain and death.
Nice interpretation!
? Of course they dont exist.. That’s the whole point of the story ; Jonas & Martha sacrificed their love & connection and stopped the building of the time travel machine : therefore ‘stopping’ those 2 hellish realities from unfolding...
Remember - After the car accident was prevented - the reality where Tannhaus was upset obviously didn’t exist.. so those 2 worlds ceased to exist.
@@crystalawen the point this was is trying to make is how could Jonas and Martha prevent the crash if they never existed
@@crystalawen yes but they couldn't have made that sacrifice and prevented the accident unless they exist in the first place. Having said that, I do think that the end was made slightly vague so a bunch of interpretations still stand. Yours is the most obvious interpretation, but if you look deeper you'll see that no reality can exist compelety independently from the other. I think that's what the writers were hinting at with Hannah's déjà vu in the last scene.
It's impossible that everything happened this one time, we know this because at the end of the show, all timeline characters are aware of the knot ending as they fade despite not completing their full life cycle.
We also know Claudia didn't choose to kill alt Claudia that one time either because she got the answer from Alt Claudia that she had never met her older self (meaning she died every time)
Noah travelled back in time because the particle stabilized. This is around the same time Jonas transitioned into the stranger and started his events in season 1. They both traveled after Claudia stabilizes the particle.
Makes sense！
I may be a psycho, but I would have LOVED it if Jonas and Martha had caused the accident that led to Tannhauser inventing time travel. It would have just been so perfectly bleak...
Edit: also, I’m not sure the ending they showed us is a happy ending after all. There are 3 worlds connected that all loop together. We see that Jonas and Martha are still born and exist in the third/origin world, although with different parents. I think Tannhauser invented time travel anyway, the point where the power goes out and Hana feels Deja Vu happens when this machine is switched on in the third/“origin” world. The final world is not the origin of the loop, it’s just part of the BIGGER loop. If you watch it again and think about it, it makes much more sense thematically with the whole series.
There are a lot of people that feel the same. I like the ending they gave us, but wouldn't have been surprised if they went that direction.
there wouldnt be any sense in the third season actually
Yeah they played with us on that scene, when the car swerved...
That was possible if we had another season
I totally freaked out in that scene. I was thinking oh god please no no no
I was a little dissatisfied with the ending at first but as I’ve had tome to digest it, I’ve come to appreciate how well they did and really like it.
What I wonder is why H.G. Tannhaus, having a time machine brought to him on a silver plate in the offshoot worlds, wouldn't try to use it to save his son and his family. That makes him drastically different from his origin world self...
Good point! Maybe he tried. Perhaps he was the truck driver....
Now he has a daughter whom he can take care of as replacement. So the daughter is compensating that
@@fazalroxxGood point. Though, I can see how that might prevent him from obsessively designing and building a time machine, but not from using one that was given to him.
This is a great point, can't believe I haven't seen this question somewhere else. They should have given us something to look back at, like a scene where he's looking at one of the time machines with great interest, curiosity and sadness. Then maybe a young Charlotte walks in the room or he looks at a picture of her, and he decides not to. Or something simple like that. Then we could look back after the ending and that scene would make much more sense.
H.G Tannhaus wouldn't do it because Charlotte exists. He says this when speaking to her as a teen by stating "My place isn't in the past, it's in the present with you."
I also have been thinking that Jonas and Martha were literally angels brought to life by meddling with God/Time and they found the way to be the guardians they were meant to be. Lots of angel wing imagery and Bible verses and references to time being God. Also the way the dissolve is like returning to heaven.
My Remaining Questions:
1) Triquetra notebook timeline: The book is written by the unknown, -Eva gives the book to Claudia 2 -Claudia 2 gives it to Claudia 1 and Claudia 1 has it for many years (from her perspective) while she is working with Jonas and Noah on the time machine in post-apocalypse (neither of them know that Claudia has the book). Then Claudia rips the last pages and travels back in time and gives the book with pages missing to Peter and Tronte, pre-apocalypse. -Peter has the book post-apocalypse and it ends up with Elizabeth after he is killed, then she ends up with younger Noah. HOWEVER, in season 1 we see adult Jonas arriving in november 2019 from the cave and he has the notebook and I don't see how it fits in this timeline.
2) When does post apocalyptic adult Jonas go back to 2019? Does he have to wait for the creation of the wormhole in 2052 and travel through it? (it makes sense the hole is needed in the future cause young Noah is shown to clear the mess the hole in the cave became after the apocalypse) Does Jonas go back through the dark matter? (it is not told when they make it start functioning, and Jonas could go anywhere, but i guess going to 2019 makes sense - but why arriving in the cave if that's the case?) Does Jonas use the time apparat? (he has an old non functioning apparat in 2019, could he have used it for the last time to arrive then?) ---- It makes sense Jonas manages to go back in 2052 cause Adam says he tried to solve everything through 66 years, so he kinda respects the 33-year cycle.
3) How does adult Jonas gets the old time apparat in the first place? You could say there's any amount of apparats in the world you need to explain what you want, but creating this time apparat seemed like a big deal and there should have been a limited amount, otherwise a lot more people could have been time traveling like crazy. So I guess what I want is a time apparat timeline too:
Tannhaus creates the sketch after receiving the blueprint from old Claudia in 1953. Then completes the machine with the help of adult Jonas in 1986. Jonas take this time machine with him to close the wormhole. Hannah takes this time machine with her then end up bringing it back to Adam when she goes to sic mundus. We see this exemplar from the time machine in 1921 in sic mundus and we don't know where it ends up (could it be the old one i'm talking about here?). Parallel to this, there's another time apparat in Claudia's possession that her old version keeps passing to her younger self after burying in the yard in 1953 to be dug up in 1986. Who created this time apparat? And if this is its cycle, why it never gets old and stops functioning like what happened with Jonas' one?
4) Is it just me that find the ball time machine a little to OP for no reason? It seems you can use it to go anytime you want and makes time travel look like a trivial thing. It gets even worse considering we see a lot of copies of it, meaning Eva's friends could do basically anything they'd want in both worlds. To me it removes some of the mystic of time travel and looks like lazy writing and a cheap way out if they messed up something in the story cause with it they can manage to explain basically any event. If we were at least given a reasonable explanation why in this second world they got so advanced in technology that they can create such a powerful tool while in the first world we have much more limitations with the time apparatus and time traveling in general.
5) How Charlotte and Elisabeth travel in time after kidnapping the baby in 2041? They must have gone to 1971 to give the baby to Tannhaus, right? How they could manage that? (I think the only way out is the pokeball, but we don't know how they could have it and still seems a little bit cheap - this thing can explain anyhting you want).
6) How Noah goes from 2041 to 1920 after their daughter is kidnapped. I know it is mentioned in the video, but I'm keeping this question for the record.
Claudia has the broken suitcase time machine in the post apocalypse. Jonas brings that broken time machine to tanhaus which is how he’s able to finish building the one that he’s constructing.
2) I think in season 3 episode 7 they do mention that Jonas travelled back to the past only in 2052. I assume he takes the broken suitcase time machine, travels to 1986 via the God particle, gives it to Tannhaus for fixing. Then he uses the caves to travel to 2019 and back (hence the reason he's seen by the caves) until Tannhaus fixes the machine. With the fixed machine, he attempts to destroy the wormhole in 2019.
3) I assume the suitcase time machine is left at 1921 and Claudia retrieves it (She has a globe time machine at this point) before the unknown torch the sic Mundus lair. So this is the time machine she gives to her younger self which stops working after the apocalypse in 2020. She has it until 2052 and then stranger Jonas takes it for fixing. Hence there is only one time machine throughout the show. There's no proof for this, just a theory.
5),6) I had the same doubts as well. No idea how they travelled.
For your question 6:
One theory of how Noah returned to 1920 from 2041 is that Claudia, knowing much more than anyone else after killing her alter-world self, sent Noah back without letting stranger Jonas know about it. As some of the dialogues have inferred, alter-world Claudia was trying to stall the progression of time-machine building in Jonas's world, under Eve's orders. So it's possible that the original Claudia already had full access to a completed time-machine in 2041 with god-particle. She used it to send Noah back while lying to Jonas that the machine still needed commissioning, for another decade.
Neil Christian Auman In adding to #6, Noah loved Elizabeth. How could he just leave her what seems like sometime without returning for her?
@@Katz1964 Honestly, I can't fully answer this question. Noah may have his reasons why he didn't return to Adult Elizabeth yet. Here are my thoughts though, I think that Noah's main goal in going back in the past and following Adam is so that he can find Charlotte. So it is possible that Noah planned to return to Elizabeth after finding Charlotte. But, as shown in season 2, after Noah finally finds Charlotte (adult version), instead of bringing Charlotte with him back to Adult Elizabeth, Noah instead went back to Adam and attempted to kill him. However, he fails and he was then killed by Agnes.
Watching Dark without watching PETE is Incomplete 😍
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8:30: I thought this scene was most of all an homage to "Interstellar".
Same, it reminded me so much of the bookshelve. Neat little nod.
Same thought!
Wow! Thanks for helping us navigate this, Pete
You made many great videos about Dark. Just wanted to thank you.
The other people in Sic Mundus were housekeeping staff! 😄
It's a big place. Someone has to keep it tidy.
Pete can you please do a video about Agnes? Her story is still pretty confusing to me.
Yeah right I don't get what's her motivation to follow Adam
Great work again Pete!
After Twin Peaks - The Return this mist have felt like a pretty straightforward narrative 😅
Why does The Unknown have no name? If Eva's sole purpose is to keep the loop intact for her son why wouldn't she name him?
it could be some emo/goth thing? Idk
I think she didn't name her son as already the future self doesn't have a name.
This situation is very much similar to jonas can't suicide if adam exists. So if future unknown exists without a name, he can't be named by eve.
To preserve all the paradoxes.
In my opinion, the older Martha was a nasty deranged woman, & maybe she thought she’d hide his existence better by not naming him..? She controlled him totally ; He had an unpleasant life really - always wearing drab monotonous clothes, he never looked happy or cheerful, & he was constantly being sent back & forth in time (in his threesome) to kill at crazy evas orders... so I guess not having a name was the least of his problems ..
The weird thing is that maybe he doesn’t have a first name, but he does seem to have a last name (surname)-it has to be Nielsen, from Martha Nielsen-because how else would Agnes get the name Nielsen? (Her brother’s name is Hanno Tauber, so her name must have been Agnes Tauber before she married...?)
Thank you so much! Not alot of friends have watched this series but I love it very much. And only on your channel and the dark subreddit I can talk about every crazy theory about this awesome series! Thank you!
Your welcome!
Omg, I know how you feel... They don't know what they're missing.
The middle aged Jonas in Real life gives guitar lessons in Lübeck to a friend from me
The main question is...what happened to Wöller's eye?
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He was getting a beer from Charlotte's fridge and was impaled by a frozen pigeon.
a cat scratched it
And his arm in other world
Love your videos, perfectly detailed. All my questions cleared and some that are open to interpretation as you said. Good job :3
This is why I think Claudia did not end it all by herself at the end:
When Jonas tries to suicide himself, he cannot showing he is deterministically destined to become Adam. When cause and effect are broken, determinism is therefore broken, and that is why Jonas and Martha prevent from becoming Adam and Eve both by exiting their realities (and thus destinies) as well as preventing their creation at its origin.
Great sum up of the big questions that can still be debated and investigated 😍
IMHO you really fully understand/appreciate this series after watching these YT videos about it. And I thought Black Mirror was pure writing genius....
For the last question, I feel like they both see the people who are “sacrificed” for everything to unfold. If Mikkel/Michael didn’t die, the cycle wouldn’t begin for Jonas in his world and if Martha didn’t die in Jonas’ world, then alt Martha wouldn’t even come into the picture, and no seed (unKnown/the Origin.)
I think so, too. And they're coverd in the black material (which causes time traveling)
I don’t understand why micheal had to kill himself for mikkle to travel back??
@@michelesilva9491 because the events wouldn't occur in the same manner if he dint and because of that Jonas wudnt be born... So it had to be done
A lot of people died for everything to unfold. Besides, it doesn't make much sense for it to be just a hallucination since that would be the only time in the series that they had hallucinations, so for it to happen at that moment seems random.
Sergio Sarmiento well, I think you aren’t wrong but it also makes sense that the cycle BEGINS with the sacrifice of these two characters
One of my theory of how Noah returned to 1920s from 2041 is that Claudia, knowing much more than anyone else after killing her alter-world self, sent him back without letting stranger Jonas know about it. As some of the dialogues have inferred, alter-world Claudia was trying to stall the progression of time-machine building in Jonas's world, under Eve's orders. So it's possible that the original Claudia had already had full access to a completed time-machine in 2041 with god-particle. She used it to send Noah back while lying to Jonas that the machine still needed commissioning, for another decade.
P. S. I have also heard people saying Claudia used the golden globe to do so. But I don't think that's the case. It seems she was very careful NOT to show anyone the golden globe that she took from her alter-self after killing her. It only made sense since she had a master-plan to deceive everyone else.
Great theory! This actually makes sense.
I also agree that it would be more likely that Claudia used the dark matter time machine to send Noah to the 1920s rather than using the ball time machine..
But the god particle hasn't been stabilized in the 2041.
Then how Noah travelled from 2041 to 1921(where Adam was waiting for him).
The particle got stabilized in 2053(Old Claudia tells Adult Jonas to repeat everything for his younger self)
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[Passage, God Particle, Suitcase Time Machine all destroyed in 2020 apocalypse, then how Noah travelled from 2041 to 1921???]
@@M4DS_GAMING Yup, you are right that it was shown that the god particle was only stabilized in 2053. But also, we know that original Claudia was stalling the completion of god particle stabilization because this is what Eva ordered her to. So there is a "possibility" that Claudia already knows how to stabilize the god particle even at 2041, she just doesn't tell Jonas yet, because as I have mentioned, she purposely stalls its stabilization for Jonas.
@@neilchristianauman8508 so you're saying that Adult Claudia helped Noah to reach 1921?
They should've atleast added that scene
Thanks for the amazing Dark videos Pete!
Thanks for all the info and ideas.
Great video! I had a few questions.
1. How do Elisabeth and Charlotte travel from 2041 to 1971 after kidnapping baby Charlotte?
2. How did Adam get to 2053 after killing Martha in 2020 just before the apocalypse?
3. When and how does stranger Jonas learn about the origin/unknown?
For 2 : I'm guessing that Adam used the globe time machine, although that wouldn't explain why he didn't use it to come to 2020 in the first place.
3 : I think the letter Stranger Martha wrote to the Stranger was the start to her sending messages to him in one way or the other. We know from the letter that she was in love with him but then, after finding out that Adam killed Eva, she became all evil out of her hate for what Jonas would become, thus manipulating him which acts like a catalyst in transforming him into Adam. That's just my theory. Just a heads up, I don't believe in Pete's theory of loop... just to let you know where my theory's coming from
1) I'm still lost in this one
2) What would make more sense to me is that he used the time apparat for two reasons: 1- he stayed within the 33-year cycle which was the limitation of this time travel machine; 2- he had one cause Hannah carried it back in time when she went to sic mundus and got murdered. We see a time apparat in the sic mundus building in 1921.
3) I would guess he learns it when he reads the Triquetra Book brought by Noah in 1920. We don't know everything the notebook tells, but since it was written by the Unknown himself there might be something explaining how it came to be in the first place. It is speculation but I think it's the only solid thing we have to try to answer this question with what is shown in the series.
For 1 I think they used the gods particle in the ruined power plant but I am not sure.
@@nosound5903 @No Sound For 2: I don't think Adam had a globe time machine at that point. He obtains alt-Martha's globe time machine only after the apocalypse.
For 3: Interesting theory, you could be right. Although, I have to say I like @TZeldaOo theory better :P
@@TZeldaOo @TZeldaOo @TZeldaOo 2) Don't we see Adam go through the God particle time machine at the end of season 2?
3) Oh yes, triquetra notebook. You may be right. There's a good chance he learns about the origin there.
1) I think Agnes went back to the 50's to be with Egon's wife, and that's because she seemed truly happy when Claudia gave her her blessings to the relationship. She had nothing left to do, so why not continue her affair?
2) I think the images of Mikkel and Martha covered in the black matter are images of deja vu. Instead of having a feeling of it like characters usually do in the show, they actually see it. One of the theories I believe in is that all the characters possess memories of all their past lives and cycles which give them that deja vu feeling. They subconsciously know what will happen and Claudia uses that to her advantage. It was said that each cycle has a bit of a change and with so many cycles, there are enough changes to break the cycle. Like in Westworld, due to repeating the same process so many times, the robots start gaining self awareness and are able to change their lives. So Jonas saw his dad covered in the substance that causes time travel, as he will later find out. And Alt Martha saw Martha from the first world in the dress because that was a turning point in her relationship with Jonas, covered in the black goo that will cause all their chaos.
3) There are two pictures of the Kahnwald family, because they probably came from a series of photos that were taken that day and each family member owns a certain picture from that series. Hanna ripped Innes's face off since she doesn't like her.
4) Noah created the time machine for personal purposes: to try and get back Charlotte, most likely by going back in time and making sure she won't be kidnapped. He said that he is trying to save humanity. In his eyes, saving his daughter will change the cycle and in the long run, the boys won't be killed due to the changed loop. The new future will help him and everyone else. So he is sacrificing little boys to experiment now thinking that they will get to live in post-change future cycles.
5) Eve's purpose to keep the loop going is not because she loves her son so much, but because in her eyes, even the short or painful lives the people in Winden had are still worth living. So by making sure the cycle continues, she is making sure that her family and other town people get a chance to live. Alt Martha had a very normal life along her family until a few days before the apocalypse, so those happy moments that people got to live will continue happening if she keeps the loop going. Eve is the side of life and Adam is the side of death, he prefers to kill everything. The good moments in life do not compensate the bad ones in his eyes. Claudia found a third option that includes both world views, killing anyone who was born resulting of time traveling but still making sure some characters get to live.
I mean alt Martha just wants to keep his son alive, that's why she protects the knot at all costs
That's the theme of the whole series, everyone is doing what they're doing because they want to save/protect their children:
Ulrich and Katharina, Noah, alt Martha, Claudia (she succeds), tannhaus in the origin world (he also succeds, ironically enough)
It's all about their love to their children
@@jansojele289 she doesn't seem to love her son so much, but maybe it's part of her motivation🤷 I think it's more to do with letting the people of Winden live their lives over and over again because she thinks it's worth it, even if there are bad moments and experiences, pretty much the opposite to Adam's approach.
@@LeeLe412 ikr she doesn't, that's what I thought too
But like, what you said made less sense to me
She really wants to keep all this shit happening an INFINITE numer of times? Just because she had a fine childhood? Also his family dies in the apocalypse, she really wants that to happen repetedly forever?
@@LeeLe412 the only reason why she does what she does is prorecting her son, everyone is making sacrificies to save their children and she is too
Thank You So Much for clearing our doubts❤
Thanks Pete. Love all the vids. I think they saw each other in doorways as children so they had an attachment when older and were always drawn together. I wasn't thrilled with the ending at first, but the more i think about it, and watch your videos, the more i like it
At some level, this show is like Twin Peaks - The Return for people who need more closure 😅
I think you could still do a q&a, i guess it would be more of a discussion with ur viewers
I don't have any experience doing live streams, but that would have probably been a good idea.
superb explanation , cleared all my doubts about the ending. thanks !
Glad you liked it.
So great. Thanks for this. Now where's our S4 of TP?
Dark series has made me realize that even if humans discover time travel and decide to change their past it's of no use because everything will keep on repeating. A loophole to be specific.
i would love if there is another season,only fun everyone should laugh in the origin world
Thanks so much Pete - great videos. Can you do a video on the origin and path of the Triquetra notebook? I have some unresolved questions about WHY the Unknown wrote it, how Claudia got it and why the pages were ripped out...what exactly DOES the book say?
Great video ! I agree with your view on the spirit of the ending of the show. But I do like the "figuring it out during loops" idea better.
Dark is about;
A World with Adam and Eve,
they will never united.
Meanwhile in origin world,
they are united.
Just my opinion.
honestly, i couldn't care less about that dude's eye. but i like that it became a joke in the end hahah
It was explaine by the actor and creators. Just when they start shooting season 1 he got injured, and the creators decided to add it to the show as an inside joke.
I just wanted to say that I thoroughly enjoyed these series. Absolutely brilliant, mind bending.
thanks for the explanation.
But, once having the knowledge/idea of time travel, (from even before his son died) will Tannhous never explore it further?
My intuition tells me that when the time machine was activated from Taunhaus original reality, the millisecond that time stopped was the creation and destruction of the two looped split realities compressed in this exact stopped millisecond. How about that?
Hey Pete! Your vodeos are awesome, would you like to make characters' linear timeline videos? Such as Jonas, Claudia, Noah, those whose timelines leave us stratching our heads : )
Woller's missing eye is what's in the Pulp Fiction briefcase.
What's been on my mind is how in season 1 , Noah is being driven in an expensive car when meeting Bartosh. I know it's probably to add mystery to the character, but just interesting to hear ideas behind that. Is there some money that Sic mundas has that allows for this or what's the deal
yeah! and who was his driver?! that dude must have heard some weird conversations XD
Sic Mundas had money. Adam tells Jonas in 1921 I believe, that he knew all the stock market deals or what ever you would call it. So I’m assuming he made money sent it back in time or went back in time with the info and made money from there. He had to have money to build that elaborate underground bunker, it was bad ass down there.
Do you think there's any connection between Martha & Jonas and Marek & Sonja? I read on Reddit that Sonja is an anagram for Jonas and MARek TAnnhaus = MARTHA. And real world Charlotte has blue eyes just like the unknown.
Edit: I just finished the video and saw what you said.
Fans just wanna keep Martha and Jonas alive in some way. That's what I think and that's why people are making theories about it. In my POV, I love jonas and Martha too much to let them go. So, I'm gonna think that this theory is plausible.
Yeah, I get where people are coming from. It didn't strike me when I first heard the theory because of the reasons I mentioned at the end of the video. I also thought Hannah saying she liked the name Jonas gave some hope that they might be connected to the origin world in an interesting way.
I liked how Pete explained that Jonas and Martha were essentially observers just like in Schrodinger's cat experiment but I also like that in laws of physics matter cannot be created out of nothing (total amount of energy in a closed system is the same), and since Jonas and pregnant Martha sacrificed themselves, Sonja, Marek and Charlotte can exist in the origin world.
I don't know.. I myself before noticing the fact that their names could be seen as anagrams have noticed some kind of similarities between the personality of Marek and Martha and that of Jonas and Sonja. Marek to me looked much like a male Martha with the classic problems with parents (just like Martha had problems with her parents in prime and alt world) while Sonja looked a lot chiller and calming to Marek, just like Jonas before becoming Adam. And if you notice these parallels/similarities between the two, and think to the fact that prime world and alt world were created and influenced by origin world, then it all makes more sense.
This is my take on this theory!
What we know about series is just a drop, there are ocean of things yet to discover and understand! 💫
I don't quite understand why in season one, when older Jonas checks into the hotel, has to write on the newspaper "when is Mikkel." Because in actuality, he knows exactly when he is. He knows everything leading up to the 2050s. My only explanation is for that to be the slight introduction that the show will be about time travel and him writing it is really for the audience.
Winnie the pooh: *Jonas*
Tuxedo Winnie the pooh: *Adam*
Hey! I was wondering something about the series Dark, during the 50' and 80', the town was in eastern or werstern Germany?
western, based on clothing and music.
It's been 2years when I last watched GOT & it's theory videos.
But today when I clicked this video I could recognize this VOICE instantly.
Your GOT theory channel I used to watch.
How Egon is Silja father in the second world when Hannah is expecting a kid from Urlich?
Egon is the father of Silja in Adam's world not in Eva's world . In Adam's world she travelled back in time and having an affair with Egon tiedamann.
Sorry for my bad english
Hannah is only pregnant with Ulrich in Eva’s world, she ends up miscarrying right before the apocalypse and Egon arrives to bring her back to 1953, which is why Eva told him beforehand to “preserve his family line”
So she goes through essentially the same cycle again in the 50’s only that in Eva’s world she miscarried with Ulrich and still ended up having Silja with Egon later.
ok so my question quite frankly is how did Adam know about the second world(eva's world) to begin with????? thanks and cheers!
Martha from the other world meets jonas/stranger in the 18th century giving him the cesium
Anything we cannot explain (yet) will eventually be explained, whether through the show runners or fans finding more puzzle pieces. I honestly believe everything is connected and the creators did not drop the ball on any of it. We just don't fully understand it all at this point.
If Adam hasn't understood all that has happened even after 66 years, how can we undertand all of it in just a couple of days/weeks? jk hehe
The ending and I fit together perfectly. Never believe anything else.
Can anyone tell me what kind of cell phone Ulrich had? The battery lasts for 33 years without charger after he left it at Tannhaus's shop. I want one of those!
Oof go rewatch tanhus used battery cells...
If adam didn't know about alternate reality or quantum mechanics..then why didnt have any doubt in his mind "how martha can get pregnant because they didn't meet before 1888"
good point
I still don’t get the pregnancy stuff
Only question for which i cant find any answers.
imo Adam believes he knows it all, but is actually clueless
He’s seen the logo of his own damn organization for decades and he never thought that a triqueta is a reflection of three things not two.
My man, adam...
I like to think about the power of three in the show. Jonas only existed in ONE of the worlds. Marta existed in TWO of the worlds. The white witch existed in all THREE worlds
Very cool. Jonas existed in one of the worlds but there were THREE versions of him from that world. The 1st who was saved by alt-Martha, the 2nd ran into the basement, and the 3rd who was saved by Adam. And I believe there were also three Marthas, the 1st who saved Jonas, the 2nd who was killed by Adam and then finally the 3rd who was taken to the Origin world by 3rd Jonas. And then I don't think the the white witch had any alternates so there was still three of her, one from each world.
12:45 Noah didn't travel through time he grew up there with Elizabeth.
Dark is awesome series with an amazing ending
What happened to the chair time machine through which the child Helge travelled ??
Was it using this machine that Noah went back in time after Charlotte was kidnapped?
I don't know what happened to it, but I suspect Noah actually traveled back later than how it looked based on how they cut that scene. The answer may be as simple as he didn't leave until years later.
@@PetePeppers1 if u see season 1 there you would find that where this chair was there also a television was present.And in that television Hg tannhuass was teaching something
I think Noah time travelled to '86 as how Jonas travelled to 1921.
I think he's just following what was written in Triquetra book.
@@shobhitmishra126 And that tannhaus looked liked a alternative version of the Prime world tannhaus.
Idk it looks like they were heading into something else with some scenes that in the end it didn't make sense or it was left for an open interpretation.
1) In the last scene of season 1 Jonas went to 2052 and Helge went to 1986 (November 1986). Helge was missing in 1953, 8 months later in June 1987, Noah sent Helge to June 1954 by using the chair. But I don't know what Helge did in that 8 months.
2) I think Noah didn't travel in time. He was angry and he just promised to Elizabeth that he will find Charlotte. First time they could control Black Natter was November 2052. Claudia went to his younger self, Jonas went to 2019 and tried to turn off caves, Noah went to 1920.
Martha taller than Jonas
Adam taller than Eva ?
When people get older, women are more prone to have their back bented thus making them appear smaller.
They were young enough to grow taller
How does jonas live in the alternate situation during apocalypse where martha from other world doesn't take her there as he's not in that bunker also?
Jonas goes to the basement of his house n hides there.. that's how he survives the apocalypse
season 3 cheapen my feelings for season 1 and 2, I love your work and exploring your older videos
All in all I can say is that 3 seasons were not enough for this masterpiece. We need atleast one more season.
WRRRROOONGGG! Typical error with these types of shows is that the studio pushes for more and more seasons until the thing turns to shit. Case in point: Lost
the showrunners themselves said 3 was all that was planned for and needed, and I personally agree.
This is exactly what makes some shows go out of rails. The american TV mentality. No, the show was conceived to be 3 seasons only, and that fitted perfectly to its narrative.
The Steinsgate was reached.
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Finally, some cultured people.
Gotta say this and Steins Gate are the ones who did it best.
@@EmilyDickmesome and back to the future
I like to think the scene on the bridge between worlds as a point of no return, they can either return back and continue the loop or the meet the other and go on with the plan
thank you!