The reason Wolfabelle isn't in the Hafu lobbies.
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2021
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From today's VOD: www.twitch.tv/videos/97010366...
I've gotten a lot of "Where's Wolf" and "Why isn't Wolf in the lobby anymore?" questions on my videos, and that's why I'm uploading this one. Of the statements each of them have made, I think this is the most clear and concise one. I'm a fan of both of them, probably much like the people also wondering, so I went digging for the answer personally a while ago and it pretty much just came down to the differences in their personalities.
Both seem to have moved on from the situation and are doing great respectively and hopefully Hafu's response here alleviates some of the confusion as to why Wolf doesn't play in the lobby anymore.
If there's any volatility, toxicity or hate in the comments they'll be removed because its just people on the internet playing video games, chill. - Ігри
I hope this helped answer some questions for some of you that were wondering!
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Thx, i was wondering why and I missed when she had said it so thx
So that's why we don't see Wolfabelle anymore. Oh well. They resolved it like civilized adults. move on people.
Now i know who she was talking😅
I came in to my sense and she suddenly talk about it
what was the point of this comment lol. Literally restated the video.
@@justanothergamingyoutuber8179 Because the internets stupid and will assume they had a fight still. So they'll see my comment and be like "Oh, so nothing important actually happened. I can move on with my life." and then some cock head will be like "Uhh. duh! that's what the video literally said just differently."
@@justanothergamingyoutuber8179 because they wanted to feel holier-than-thou
Check out her UA-cam channel too, she's still putting out great daily videos
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Some peoples personalities just aren’t good in a lying manipulative situation. People get tense and upset and its unnecessary. If Wolf is doing better without the drama and Hafu is doing better without the drama then its fine
I was like "what the fuck is this speculation, who are you calling a lying manipulator???" but then I realised you were talking about amongus lol... my bad, there is a lot of lying going on in that game 😂
They both a good person, its just that Hafu is better in 'manipulating a person and deduction' in context of Amongus game, in which it means she was a better player for this game. Wolf on the other hand is not as good as her, and sometimes if her friends believe in a certain person so much it could be triggering for Wolf. Just like OTV lobby where toast is so good that people believe him even when he is imposter. in the end
Its just a clash of personalities which happen in life.
Exactly! People tend to forget that among us is not just a regular game, it's all about how you can manipulate others.
@@GWT_A Yeah I think I probably wouldn't be able to handle the OTV lobby's strange amount of trust in Toast for too long myself without getting slightly annoyed so I totally understand what you mean. Like some people just don't click and it's important to understand that. Like schools try to preach about how everyone should be friends and get along but that's just not how it is in the real world. They're using that to lower bullying and violence rates in their schools, not necessarily to tell the truth to their students. Because otherwise we would automatically just get along with one another if that was how we were actually wired to function, but it doesn't work that way all the time. And that's okay, it's totally normal to not be on the same wavelength as someone else. There are millions upon millions of people to choose from in this world, so your ability to just get along with that one person is in no way indicative of your personality or of any form of malice on either side.
@@lcsquad. you good there?
It’s totally normal to not be friends with someone because your personalities just don’t match. I’ve made multiple friends where I had to drop not because they were mean/evil or anything, but simple because our personalities were so different which made the environment hostile. I’m so glad Hafu spoke on this so people stop shitting on her for “being mean” to wolf.
Who was saying that?
@@mr.dirtydan3338 literally everyone
@peter manning
What if she was genuinely sad and Not acting?
What if she was having some other problems and So small things like this made her sad. You wud never know what someone else is Going thru, would u?
I think hafu handled it well, But you dont have to Put wolfabelle on a negative side to compliment hafu
@peter manning no no I agree. I think DirtyDan was asking who was calling Hafu mean. So I replied that.
@@abhayraj4189 Yes true. It just happens sometimes, you can’t help people falling apart.
Just happy that Ellum became a semi-reg because of the free slot. His dynamic with everyone is great.
@peter manning yeah amazing chemistry with everyone. I was pretty off about him at first because I thought he's like a Koji replacement (before I knew about the Wolf issue), but ended up loving him especially with Koji and Dumbdog in the lobby too.
Yeah Koji is Great
@@abhayraj4189 yup Koji is really great
Just put ellum and koji with 5up in a lobby for free content on how 5up can't recognize their voice
Yhi luv the guy he is so positive
I feel like its been dragged out a lot i hope this just stops it now, people were painting hafu as some terrible evil person that kicked wolf out of the lobby which is just weird... people fall out! it is what it is.
It was dragged out because they didn't address the Elephant in the room. Obviously if one of the main people in the lobby doesn't play with them anymore, people will want to know what happened. If 5up stops playing in Hafu lobbies for example, we would all be wanting to know what happened. If you don't address it, people will keep asking. It's not like 1 person was spamming every single day. It was multiple people just asking politely what happened with wolf
@@TheDailyEgg well yeah I guess it does make sense that is dragged out. The problem is that some people don’t understand that pestering someone to answer you when they don’t want to is rude, and also about The Hafu being evil things that is just because of dumb people.
@@TheDailyEgg some shit just ain't anyone's business.
@@ac9901 I would rather see what they say rather than speculating on rumors
@@babyfaceweeb8937 These are entertainers with hundreds of thousands of fans between them, people are going to naturally be curious- no, fans aren't entitled to a damn thing but fan literally stands for fanatic- they're going to want to know & they're going to continue to ask. Fanaticism aside, people are naturally curious, it's an evolutionary trait, when something changes they're going to want to know why.
It's up to the entertainers whether they want to nip it in the bud & move on or ignore let it fester, because it won't go away by itself easily.
This cant be it? Where's the diss tracks? The subtweets? The angsty twitlonger filled with adjectives and layered pronouns?
Oh yeah, theyre adults who can settle issues through normal means.
what do pronous gotta do with this
@@soapy2587 it's like placing a quotation mark around he or she like a nudge nudge wink wink at the person they're twitlongering to
I would actually love a diss track just for the sake of it. Nothing serious, just some stupid fun.
Where's the 69 pages google docs!
i was expecting a boxing match at least...
its just drama and they fell out its hard when you are a public figure and you fall out with someone because people keep asking why i think its best if we just leave it alone and if they dont want to play with each other so what blaming people or causing more drama out it dosent help anyone and i dont think its what hafu or wolf wants
I think people were just wondering why one of their favorite content creators wasn't playing with their favourite group of people anymore. It has nothing to do with people being intentionally malicious
@@mr.dirtydan3338 the internet? Not intentionally malicious? Would love to see it-if it exists. Fans come to their favorite creator’s defense in a snap, and it’s easy to lose sight of the fact that these people are just that...people. “Backstage drama” is always a bit fun, but it starts to get cringe when fans attack creators.
@@mr.dirtydan3338 no I'm Dirty Dan
Yeah like they act as if public figures aren't humans ... it's completely normal that sometimes people fall apart and that friends become former friends
can you use punctuation, because I cannot understand anything
Sad to see wolf go but glad her and hafu will be able to find lobbies they're comfortable n happy in! stuff happens. Let's just be polite and not annoy them about it ^^
Wolf does EU lobbies sometimes which are really fun to watch, it’s like Lexie, Razzbowski, Scott sometimes, Gabbie, Falcone, it’s a lot of fun and she seems to enjoy that!
@S.K Mohib agreed
@S.K Mohib your entitled to your opinion but I disagree
I like watching the Wolf lobby - i guess if you are English is a good lobby to watch in the morning!
Among us is a social game, you literally have to be friends with someone to have fun playing with them. No dramas if that doesn't work out. It's not like a fps you can just focus on callout/fragging. Personality is at the forefront of this game, so if you clash, that's fine. Handle it with maturity (which they did, I hope the community does too)
Totally. Even more important that you like each other since it is a game engineered to have people argue. There is nothing less fun than hearing people that aren’t getting along snapping at each other. Especially with streaming...people’s chats are super sensitive on their streamers behalf.
I am hoping that the increased variety in the morning lobbies continues. 5up mentioned wanting to rotate people through a couple spots in the lobby which I think is great. The dynamics changes so much.
Especially a game where lying and throwing people under the bus is a frequent part of the game. If the situation ever came I could see where Hafu throwing her under would be seen as maybe personal or make things tense if there is already tension.
Any game you’re playing with people there’s tension with can feel like you’re being singled out, let alone a game where you have to single people out as the entire point.
Not saying it WOULD be personal, it could just really feel like it. If there’s already a disagreement it could easily feel like “of course I’m getting targeted now”
@@pogonavit yeah, like when you hard accuse and they believe the other person instead of you, you start to think "of COURSE they didn't believe ME", so it can feel personal but in reality it isn't.
I kinda don't wanna like this, atm for me it's at 666 likes
It just wasn't a good longterm mix though they all had plenty of fun together. I wish everyone would just let them play now and stop bringing down the mood in chat asking Hafu "where is wolfabelle" and asking wolfabelle "why don't you play in the morning lobby anymore?"
Sounds like a pretty typical "it didn't work out so we went our separate ways" sitch that just got pushed over the edge because of how much everyone is obsessed with their favorite streamers. There's really nothing to see here, and Hafu and Wolf and their respective lobbies don't owe us explanations. They're all adults, so let's all quietly enjoy our favorite content and leave it at that.
Yeah i dont understand where the drama is here... I honestly feel like im missing something. Or ppl just have too much time on their hands. Im just glad hafu addressed it so i can stop wondering when wolf will be in a lobby again
i think hafu is the mom of among us
Yeet
@@joeschmo7881 hafu=good
when the impostor is sus! 😳
Would that make 5up the guncle?
Toast is the king he is just above everyone, I disrespectful to put him on the same level of someone
Omg I said the exact same thing and every one was like thats not the case now hafu herself is saying it, thank you Hafu.
Congrats you can psychoanalyse them so well dude
yeah lmao like it was pretty obvious they were disagreeing about some stuff. not a big issue, they just chose to go their separate ways and that was that
Not surprised, I knew it had to be something like this. Both the lobby and wolf are doing great so i think it was for the best
sometimes people just dont get along, dont mean they hate each other, people just overreacting and wanting drama smh my head
Shaking my head my head?
@@theguywhoasked6120 lol
@@theguywhoasked6120 shaking head with your head? Sounds sus. KEKW
You're right tbh be honest chat wants drama
@@theguywhoasked6120 congratulations you found the point of the joke
(This comes off as sarcastic and I'm sorry about it but I swear I'm not trying to me mean that's literally the joke I-)
It’s cause hafu always says “deafen”
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Hahaha
@@ranitaroy2 whoah howd you use that
@@sophiiesgm9279 she doesn't say it demandingly though. She says it in a sort of sing song voice and it's just a reminder because people always forget to deafen. There's nothing wrong with it
@@sophiiesgm9279 it's
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without the space
I feel like Hafu has a very strong personality but I remember videos on others channels where Hafu would mention after Wolf left that a lot of the girls felt like the boys would talk over them and ignore them. So I truly believe she tried her best to make everyone feel welcomed. Sometimes it just doesn't work
I miss Wolf but if they don’t click they don’t click. Hafu has a strong personality and doesn’t really hesitate about what she believes so people target her with a lot of hate for no reason. If they’ve figured out the cause of the issue and decided on a reasonable response in private then it’s none of our business. I was worried about Wolf and missed her because I didn’t know the exact reasoning but they decided it was for the best and I’m at least glad we got to know the reasoning behind it.
I watch Wolfabelle a lot and watch her play on her lobbies, it seems to just click better for her playing with the group she now plays with. She has talked about why she isn't in the Hafu lobbies and she said pretty much the same thing.
@@Greenbeanscreens I haven’t watched her streams very much because of the time zone difference, etc. but I’m glad to hear she’s doing well. When she was in Hafu lobby I didn’t really notice she wasn’t at her peak bc she seemed very happy and bubbly a lot of the time. Glad she was honest with herself and took a step back
@@muffinpandas8034 Yeah, I watch her because I am in the same timezone, and she is still having massive success with her lobbies
Wolf has her own lobby now, if you miss her so much go watch it.
I remember feeling bad for Wolf when she once talked on stream about how she doesn't feel appreciated in the lobby back when they were still streaming together. Still, I knew that it wasn't Hafu or anyone's fault because it's clear that they have quite different personalities. I do really miss Wolf but if they don't get click well and Wolf has her lobby to play with, this is for the best.
Mad respect to both of them for acting mature about the situation
When it’s just boring adult drama that doesn’t warrant being talked about, instead of the loud manufactured drama most young viewers think drama is, people really start to think it’s a lot deeper than it is
Probably these same viewers came from the OTV lobbies who joined in without knowing anything lmao
i love you hafuu
sounds like they just didnt get along too well as friends which sucks but happens and its not hard to be seen as drama by viewers
Hafu has a very dominant personality and I find her a bit too controlling, but for good reason. The lobbies do turn to chaos when she isn’t there. I think Toast enjoys Hafu’s lobbies more than his own.
I’m glad I got context. I never knew why she left. I enjoyed her with them but I’m glad to know why and know she won’t come back. I hope both parties are good and happy!
Glad they were able to go their separate ways, I’ve been super enjoying Belle’s new lobby. She’s got a real fun, friendly, relaxed group going on there. It’s fun to watch both.
Not a regular on both their streams so I'm quite surprised. I did enjoy whenever Wolf was on the lobby so it's a bit saddening that we won't see her now on hafu's lobby.
Yeah it's really sad to me because I LOVE Wolfabelle, she's my favourite Among Us streamer, but her European lobby just isn't anywhere near as fun to watch as Hafu's lobby for me. I don't watch much Wolf now because I need my 5up and Steve and DK! Such a shame I either get Wolf OR all the other Hafu lobby members I love in each video/game now, but ah well, can't be helped. (I feel bad for kinda accidentally dissing everyone else in the European lobby here - they're fine! I just don't know them so well or connect with their dynamic as much. I do love Freyz though!)
They're both awesome streamers who complemented each other really well for the most part - their different (and equally valid) perspectives to expressing their views and to how to cope with differences of opinion aside, I still think they were a great combo. But such is life, and I'm glad they're both doing well and in a position to move forwards without every single question in chat being about the other person.
I respect that answer and to be completely honest i hadn't even realized that Hafu and Wolf were never in the same lobby XD I have more respect to Hafu cause she knows that its gonna be bad vibes even if the viewers don't realize/see it
well, thats really nice. solving it behind the scene on how its not gonna work rather than cause the damage on stream thats good from both of them.
One was hella blunt, one was hella sensitive. Two things that dont mesh well. Boom, there’s your answer
SO TRUE! Wolf also kept grudges and if something negative happened in one round she would bring that energy to the next round and it would affect everyone else in the lobby which is unfair
Pretty much ! Had two friends that were pretty much the same exact personalities. One was too blunt, one was too sensitive. That group got into a lot of arguments where neither were necessarily wrong or evil for doing anything, just that they don't see eye to eye with things. Hafu doesn't wanna soften herself up for Wolf, and she shouldn't have to. Likewise, Wolf shouldn't need to "toughen up" or grow thicker skin. They just went their own separate ways which is much healthier.
yeah and it wasn't just a hafu vs wolf thing, if you watch some of their last streams together, wolf had a thing with a couple other players in the lobby and was so sensitive about it. I also remember her being upset about a joke steve or someone else made, so I think it is really the best for everyone involved.
@@soapy2587 I really don't remember that happening like at all lmao. I distinctly remember thinking that it's surprising that Wolf felt bad after the games because she always sounded bubbly in the very next meeting or when she talked like 99% of the time, they just didn't work out overall.
That's kinda unfortunate, but it's probably for the best
I didnt even notice she wasn't in the lobby anymore lol. I thought she just filled in every so often.
She was there everyday for months.
@@NikishaGR i didn’t notice either because i also watch wolfabelle everyday so it all blurs
Same
Among us can be a very confrontational and stressful game, and if the people in your lobby don't click well it's a recipe for disaster. This was probably the best decision, maybe they could play other games together.
Guys, did you never meet a friend of a friend, who isn't necessarily bad but you two just don't connect or agree on certain key points? It's sort of like that. Stop bothering her about t.
It wasn't even just between Hafu and Wolfabelle. The last time this topic came up, Wolf felt she was getting voted out even when the evidence wasn't there and tried to not kill anyone as imposter to prove her point about meta gaming, getting voted out still due to her tells. But in turning a game into an accusation, you poison the atmosphere of the group. When people get so familiar with each other, you have to either ask the whole lobby to forget each other's tells or be really creative with your plays and embrace the meta (5-Up does this a lot to deceive people based on his playstyle).
It's really difficult managing the mentality of a group because it's so easy to feel singled-out. These aren't just friends, they're working together to create content and trying to resolve so much personal drama makes the work as a whole so much more taxing. You can also tell Hafu tries really hard to find a good balance, like how long they should play Among Us before people start getting worn out mentally from playing a game of lying and deceit.
"When people get so familiar with each other, you have to either ask the whole lobby to forget each other's tells or be really creative with your plays and embrace the meta (5-Up does this a lot to deceive people based on his playstyle)."
IMO if you can't figure out your own tells and change them up, it's a failure on your part, not the people you play with.
I remember when this was talked about, and i remember thinking its a game about the strategy of deception, so if your strategy is getting stale, you need to change it up, not complain about it. I sypathize, it is frustrating especially in the moment... But you have to maturely come to the conclusion that if you change up what youre doing the problem will be solved
I did start to notice that Wolf got voted off a LOT when it came down to top 6 or 4. Most of the time she was crew. It was a little irritating for me so I can imagine how it would be for her. I believe Wolf also talked to Hafu about people talking over her, which they did do a lot. I'm not hating on anyone here, I'm glad they could resolve their differences as adults, I simply understand where Wolf was coming from in those scenarios.
great comment, filled me in perfectly as someone who rarely watches
@@samarawilliams7205 If I was Wolf and I thought I was often getting voted out at top 6 or top 4 while I'm innocent, I would watch the vods of the other players. Most of the time they're going to be streaming when they play so she would have something to reference there. I don't watch everyones streams but often they'll mention to chat what their reasoning is during the course of the game.
I don't know if she'd done that, maybe she has, but it seems to me like she was confrontational rather than introspective. That seems to come with maturity though and that may have been the key problem in this case since she caused drama in the end.
Thanks for the info. I was always curious about that.
This isn't drama at all, imho. People are just different from each other and we aren't made to get along with everyone. It's just human nature if you think about it. There are just certain people who will not get your gist and vice versa. This is completely understandable from both Hafu and Wolf.
This drama makes me want Starbucks for some reason.
oh man, I love these harvested clips.
tbh I didn't even notice Wolfabelle wasn't in the lobbies.
oof the savagery💢💢💥💥💯💯🔥🔥
I thought she changed her name to geenelly since they sound similar lol
@@ac9901 TRUE
@@ac9901 Gives me the vibe of those people in chat that give attention to hate watchers even though streamers have told them to just ignore it. This people make chat toxic but see themselves as helpful and kind.
I actually thought she was in the toast lobbies
Big fan of both Wolf and Hafu!! It’s all good! (In my opinion) You don’t have to be friends with everyone, and that doesn’t mean you hate them. Some people just don’t vibe the same, and that’s cool. I watch each streamer for different reasons and vibes :)
People really Made a huge deal outta this...damn
I think they should have just gone ahead and both made somewhat of a joint statement as it happened. Only reason it sort became a thing was not the "drama", but the mystery and speculation. I think it is good Hafu finally just said it and got it out there.
exactly. so many of hafu's supporters were acting like wolf left while wolf continued to say that she just doesn't get invited anymore. the confusion made it worse. i'm glad they aren't playing together bc it was a clash of personalities and they seem sooo much more chill separated, and hopefully they can play one or two games together in the future.
@@null6955 lol have you seen wolf's chat going into everyone's chat spamming? That was drama alright.
@peter manning seeing as I keep saying it's best they do their own thing I obviously know why lmao. The point is is that wolf's feelings are valid.
@peter manning ppl did. Constantly. Before this video ppl were acting like wolf didnt want to play despite saying the opposite and saying how sad she was she couldn't play with them. Ppl acted like she has no right to feel upset by the way hafu speaks to her at times. Also wolf told her chat not to take her venting and emotional moments and run with them outside of her stream.
@peter manning it's just not true tho. Ppl were wondering why wolf wasnt playing in general. Hafu supporters spread that wolf said she didnt want to play anymore but that's not what wolf said. I dont even watch wolf, I watch hafu and I learned about all this from hafu supporters trying to shield hafu from criticism after the logs issue and that's how I came across all of wolf's vods talking about how she felt about everything. So it's just not true that wolf's chat were the only ones that knew.
Yeah, I watch wolfabelle a lot and she just never seemed to have as much fun in the hafu lobbies as her other lobbies. But she also said not to attack anyone else when she wasnt having a good day or was really stressed because it wasnt anyones "fault".
Jeez, I absolutely missed this
I wish the best for Wolf but I totally understand Hafu here. It's impossible to please everyone and if you have to change who you are to keep a friend then it's better to let them go.
Thanks for clearing that up
We have to remember that this is a job for them. They need to do what's best for them professionally. It's not always personal, sometimes it's just realizing that as content creators, you don't produce your best work together and seeking out collaborators who are a better fit.
I love Ellum and Koji vibes!!! I didn't know that Wolf case was this..I thought you guys really good together. This is sad ...
Understandable, have a nice day!
Oh damn they can solve this like an adult i hope the best for both of them
I'm really glad they settled this as grown adults.
She stretched. It's her impostor tell...
idk why ppl have to make a big deal out of "oh no! they're no longer showing up in the lobby they're usually in!"
Like, just let streamers play with whomever they want, and if they don't wanna play together anymore then that's that
I enjoyed having them both in the same lobby but it is what it is ig
People are people they always have problems. it’s a difference when people push problems far and when people deal with their problems.
They dealt with their problem and moved on.
When I saw the title I was like
"Oh, right, Wolf used to be regular in Hafu's lobbies" 😅
I absolutely forgot about it. But it's also relatable, what Hafu said. I stopped "being friends" with someone for similar reasons. Well, there was more to it, but still... Relatable
Im glad this was addressed. I was so confused seeing Wolf on everytime id go to watch a Hafu lobby and wonder why she wasnt invited. There are plenty of lobbies with their own rules or lack of them, and everyone has different play styles. If wolf wasnt jiving with Hafu lobby, thats cool. Im sure theres no hard feelings, its just a game
I think people are concentrating on there being conflict between hafu and Wolfabelle. But I think there was conflict between her and others in the lobby as well.
You could tell in that one game where hafu, who was already dead, chastised dk for talking over (I think it was) Janet when he got voted out. She specifically mentions that other girls, like Wolfabelle, had mentioned the same thing happens to them. As lobby leader all that ended up being hafu’s problem.
Glad to hear that Wolfabelle is having a good time in her own lobby. She deserves better ping anyways. lol.
I am not trying to blame Wolf for it because I also really enjoyed her time with the hafu lobby but She was too emotional of a person to constantly playing in Hafu lobby standarts. 5up also gets salty When he doesn't like the reasons why he got sussed, and Hafu also have her salty moments since both of them are at the more try hard side of gaming but When the next game starts, they both leave it behind and focus on the future. Wolf on the other hand just keeps it inside until she can no longer handle it and then drama happens. It was only a matter of time before separation happens, Wolf prefers to kill off cooldown but that mostly results with her getting find out easily Which she doesn't like it. I think It is better that Wolf is now only playing with her own Eu lobby Where She is able to get better results with her killing playstyle since the playing level of that lobby is not as high as the morning lobbies, and obviously Hafu lobby already has more than enough people so just missing wolf did not change much for them. It is the best for everyone
She really also let it affect everyone else in the lobby and it was... very hard to watch those days
to add, DK and Steve have their signature storage kills and play styles like Rat's gambit and calling off reactor after meeting that got them pretty much sussed out immediately. They never took so much offense to it and just moved on, just using it for comedic purposes.
@@normandyeuropa TBF, I think Wolfabelle also had an added issue that she thought (rightly or wrongly) that women were getting shouted down in the lobby. And, she felt that was negatively affecting her play, too. DK and Steve definitely don't get shouted down during meetings.
i also felt like Wolf was the one who kind of dragged the "drama" out. if she had such a civilised conversation with Hafu about how their personalities clash so its better to part ways, she shouldn't have shifted the blame on to Hafu by saying "they dont invite me anymore". it kind of felt like she was evading accountability and not admitting that both of them were equally at fault which Hafu admits to in this clip.
@peter manning 1) No one is perfect or even completely consistent. Criticism for that is hypocritical at best. 2) Wolfabelle's chat isn't a monolith. While some probably did criticize Hafu, others criticized Wolfabelle, and the majority did the right thing. Every member of the Hafu lobbies (Wolfabelle included) shared a ban list for the members of chat that went too far in criticizing anyone, in order to reduce toxicity. But, there is only so much that any streamer can do to limit a fandom's bad behavior. 3) Hafu and Wolfabelle seem to have tried their best to work out their differences, and when they couldn't they parted peacefully. Neither fandom should take that as a sign to blame anyone or to criticize anyone for that parting. Even if the two don't share lobbies anymore, it doesn't mean that either dislikes the other.
I’m glad it was finally cleared up. I loved Wolf in the lobby and I totally get it. I’m happy she had success because no one should feel bad when playing with their friends. I hope she’s invited back once the new Tarkov map drops! I loved her interactions with Steve and Apollo (and the occasional Skadj and Sips)
Wolf in her other lobby is a totally different Wolf from what I saw in the Hafu lobby. Her energy is amazing and I hope other people watch her because she’s the wolf we know and love
Shall we gather for whisky and cigars tonight ?
Really, I need to avoid drama like Hafu does. It's impressive how easily she can move away from situations that create drama. Drama creates unnecessary stress in my life. I already have enough on my plate to deal with as it is.
Yeah I understand. Wolf was getting mad salty every time she was voted out lol even DK pointed it out.
Oh! I felt they had a great dynamic together :(
I didn't even know this was a thing.
oh ok, fine by me, have a nice day!
Normal, not everyone can work together, sometimes personalities just don't work together, I play with a discord server and purposely avoid certain VC games, cause I feel like my personality and this one person's clash and I don't feel comfortable playing with them. It happens. No worries.
it sucks but totally understandable. it’s nobody’s fault, their personality just don’t match.
It's weird to understand that when you only watch youtube vids, it doesn't make you quite feel the atmosphere the lobby as a whole have. Anyways, still there things on both sides I particularly feel meh about but now I find myself not watching many wolf and more hafu and toast. A lobby with toast is the best and they both challenge each other haha. One thing you can sure take from this and it's awesome is the maturity o/
I was wondering what happened, I'll miss seeing Wolf but I hope everyone can move on peacefully from the situation :(
Hafu is the most unproblematic person ever. In this streaming and gaming business since I think 2007.
"She has her own lobby, I wish her the best" Love the women supporting women. Sometimes personalities don't work. That's okay. Boundaries are good.
@@dragonite773 whats ur point
@@dragonite773 no lmao
@@dragonite773 i didnt really care about debunking your point, i just know it's not worth it lmao
And now we have Ellum and I love him! I love how 5up still can’t differentiate between him and koji 😂. It’s hilarious
I think it says a lot to followers/subscribers and about the lobby and Hafu that Hafu was willing to tell us why Wolfabelle hasn't been around. I hope people stop pestering the Crewfu about Belle now.
I like this. I like how there is no personal beef, but they understand that personalities sometimes clash. Good stuff. I need to see more of this from content creators.
Wow, it's amazing seeing most of the people here react maturely to this rather than screech demonic cries like they usually do.
It was the chicken tendies
That was an extremely long way to just say "we don't get along"
Well she said it they have clash personality first tho, wasn't that long LOL
@@dolphingirl9346 I mean you are right to be fair
people would keep asking and begging for a response from her. She gets alot of comments about wolf so she wanted to address it. they still follow each other though.
I was just wondering this
Nah, we want a boxing match now.
Same, I got my money on hafu
She is definitely gonna win
i wanna hug hafu :(
I like the Fundy pfp :)
I feel like this was known, from hearing both sides it just seemed like they clashed. Ppl bring up Wolf everyday it's so annoying
Yea, this should be treated more normally, there are people who are just not meant to interact with each other, like i would have a group of friends and theres just one person im always not getting along with
I really admire how hafu deals with issues!!! She just wants the best for everyone and she manages it really well!!! If only everyone was like her!!!
these lobbies are about having fun and making good content, if theres constantly people clashing that just doesnt work. i would rather have them seperate like this than have the whole lobby fall apart
Omg she looks so pretty
I blame everyone’s chats people always mention wolf in hafus chat and vice versa they even do it in Steve’s chat and it makes him uncomfortable because he doesn’t know what to say (he’s friends with both) people in chat need to (as Steve says) READ THE FUCKING ROOM
Drama frogs as usual
definitely miss belle in them and slicing with 5up but it is what it is :(
aww :( I loved her
Thanks for making this video. It sucks making this sort of decision about your friends but it's got to be so, so much worse when you have to answer to 100,000 people (plus) on Twitch and UA-cam, at least it was settled in an amicable fashion rather than a hostile one. Most people would have preferred Wolf continuing to play in Hafu's morning lobby but it's clear it wasn't working out behind the scenes so something had to change, and as Hafu said now Wolf's making her own lobbies in the mornings/afternoon it all seems to be going alright for her. Hopefully they can remain friends in private.
Don’t blame her
Basically hafu is a business woman and is keeping the work environment chill
Yeah drama isn't for me too honestly
ohhhh i was wondering why wolf wasnt in the lobbies anymore but didnt have the guts to really ask in chat
GOD DAYUM I JUST FINISHED MY CREWFU FANART AND WOLF IS IN IT NEXT TO HAFU😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀
OH SHIT..
😂😂😂😂😂
This got blown up so much, I ended up seeing it all over my recommended, no matter how much I kept avoiding it. Seriously guys, just move on. Not everyone is meant to be together in the end.
Yeah no I just clicked on this to get it out of my recs and scroll the comments to make sure nothing actually weird happened (didn’t expect it but, you never know so I figured I’d double check)
Aww I'm sad but I understand, hopefully they play together again one day.
Hey, at least they can still say hi and bye without hate : )