I completely agree with you, a speedometer that is not in the middle is like a fist in the eye. Sometimes manufacturers make a great engine and then screw it up on the little things. Take for example the Triumph, the beautiful T120, T100 or Speed Twin 1200, the most beautiful analog instruments in the world, and then they spoil everything on the Speed Twin 900, which only has an analog speedometer. I can forgive only one brake disc in the front, when I drive I look further ahead anyway, but the instruments are another matter. I love classic motorcycles and symmetrical things, I don't think I'm the only one in the world. Two cylinders, two exhaust pipes, two front brake discs, instrument panel in the middle, analog speedometer and tachometer in the panel. A message to all manufacturers: You have all kinds of options and accessories that I and many others don't need at all, and you don't have options that support symmetry on the bikes of the related line. 😪
most Harley haters have never even sat on one let alone ridden it, and the retro bikes have a fair amount of electronics on them and they are all pretty much more reliable than older bikes just as cars are far more reliable than they used to be, you just mentioned one of the few with regular issues, got to admit that the Meteor looks pretty good, my mate has one and absolutely loves the thing
I don't hate any bikes, I just have a personal preference for some bikes more than others. In 50 years of riding, I've had many different bikes, from race reps to metric cruisers and now ride a Harley and love it!
I started out on two stroke yams then a few z’s as I passed my test up to a GSX 1100 before a break to have a family. Coming back in my late 50,s I bought a HD sportster which led me to a low rider s and then my current bike which is a Streetglide special. I have ridden loads of bikes and will never understand the haters, ride and enjoy your own choice without criticism of others. We need to be one band of brothers out there as we don’t get many favours as it is. Look after each other and keep safe
Surprised there are so many Harley haters. I admit I wasn't a fan of the usual Harley look with the big front fairings but I love the look of their older bikes. Then in a recent video from F.Dobbs he showed how easy it was to remove the bags and fairing. Suddenly, without the front fairing and just the round headlight it looked amazing (to me). Love the Meteor 350 myself. I think it looks better with the metallic paint and chrome variants (but like you said it's great to have options for everyone).
@@johnsumser9743 👍👍👍 That might be right and would be totally understandable, as there are so many posers which only show up at big motorcycle meetings with widely open pipes and a behavior that it is just a shame! I love the bikes, but I stay away from these kind of folks!
@@johnsumser9743 In the little worlds that are motocycling cliques, yogurt has more "culture" than any group of buffoons that feeeeels they are what they ride. SS
Harley haters either never grew up or they can't afford one. A real motorcycle enthusiast never hates on any kind of bike. Respect goes hand in hand when you are a true rider.
The arrogance and attitudes of a large number of Harley riders have turned most people off from the brand. I’ve never had someone riding a Suzuki tell me I should get a ‘real’ bike. Anyone can afford one, they’ll let you finance for 8 years. They’re nice bikes, but certainly not worth what you have to pay to get one, even on the used market.
@@elwood62 - right about the HD scene, but wrong about the bikes prices… You can get EVOs and Sporties for around 7-8000,-€ Sportsters even for less… which offer perfect reliability and more HD feeling as the new ones 😇
@@SkysaxonDragonslayer the problem is that in the US a Road Glide lists for $21k, which is reasonable, but you can’t find a used one for under 25. Dealer markup is crazy here. I tried a Sportster years ago but it was physically too small for me. I felt like a circus bear.
Motorbikes are like music, not everyone likes all types, personally I think I’m lucky because I enjoy a large range of music and motorbikes, as to hating them, that’s just weird to hate an inanimate object, lol. I think because you and Darcy enjoy many different types it helps you give balanced, interesting reviews! Cheers👏😀👍
Harleys are kind of funny. People love to hate them and i kinda get them but at the same time i have a Road King and a Evo 1340 Fatboy that i love. Here in Norway they are wery popular bikes. Never got the urge to walk up to a stranger and tell them i dont like their bike
I've had three Harley Davidsons. Two Sportster 883's and a Dyna Low Rider. Always over engineeried they felt like they would do a million miles (I did about 3k per year 😂) I enjoyed my Harley ownership very much. The only thing I didn't quite gel with was the lifestyle thing. I've always been a bit of a lone biker and was it was a little frowned upon not being part of the "clan". Also, there was a bit of "mine's better than yours" going on. They're great bikes though once you "get" them. Not for blighty weather though. Getting caught in a rainstorm meant a three hour cleaning job - with a toothbrush. But I would never criticise anyone's choices which is something that some other's do and this is actually something not strictly limited to Harley Davidson.
Showing Love & Respect Ol' man. I'm 65 years old & been riding bikes since I was 11. I'm also a disabled veteran. Anyway motorcycling is my lifestyle AND I'm not exactly particular about what I ride though I prefer Harleys. Here's the question in two parts; Does the bike make the man? Does the man make the bike? Johnny Boy Pennsylvania USA
There's no reason to hate any motorcycle really, I loved both my Triumph T120 and my current ride a 117 HD Low Rider S, I challenge anyone to ride one and tell me that they don't love it. In a perfect world, I would own 5 or 6 different bikes. Riding a motorcycle makes us really feel alive, it's like having a super power yet realizing we're still human.
The Harleys like the Royal Enfields have " Soul ", unlike many of the Japanese and some BMW's... no matter how much tech or advance whatever you have it can feel like you are riding an air conditioner and even if it's faster , smoother, and brakes better if it does not have that soul factor it is the same as a Honda Accord vs an old tech Jaguar or MG..... and it is obviously ALL subjective. I love all motorcycles and all brands and have owned BMWs and Harleys, Suzukis and KTMs to name a few. Go out and ride what you love.
I guarantee most of the Harley haters are either parroting the oil issues from the AMF years or they sat on a Twin Cam once and didn't like the vibrations. Most guys who sit on a M8 would love a Harley. It's plenty quick, sounds great, reliable, comfortable and looks brilliant & there's nothing more required from a bike than that.
I’m by no means a Harley fan, but I have to admire the brand, culture, looks, and the level of performance and reliability that Harley has created. There’s no need for hate, us motorcyclists are all part of a family that just loves riding. The diversity of our bikes is what keeps it interesting!
ACF 50 is good stuff for stopping corrosion. If you ride with it on your bike it will collect debris. However when you clean that off there's no corrosion but it needs to be renewed!
I have tried to live my life with two rules, It’s nice to be nice and if you haven’t got something nice to say, better to say nothing. Constructive criticism and a difference of opinion is a great and welcome contrast when done fairly. For instance who really likes adverts in the middle of a show 😂. I think we have all wanted things to be simpler and coming from a generation when they were, we are lucky to still have that chance. You both love your bikes and certainly fortunate you get the chance to try so many and does create great content and entertainment to enjoy. 👍
A motorcycle is a tool. You wouldn’t try to ride a Road King or Gold Wing on a motocross track nor would you want to ride a 125 cross country on a highway where the speeds are 70 MPH or better. I don’t own a Harley but just rented a Road Glide and finished two days, over six hundred miles at speeds of 80 MPH and higher. The machine handled it without any issues and I was very comfortable. For a long distance machine I wouldn’t chose any other.
There’s an overall lack of civility in general, and it’s worse when it’s on-line and anonymous. My rule of thumb is to speak to everyone as if talking to a local in a rural Scottish pub….that is to say, be polite and respectful, lest you get a (well deserved) beating.
This year the boss and I toured Scotland (600 miles) and Derbyshire Dales (400 miles) 2 up with luggage on the Meteor-it was brilliant. Same colour as yours, but with the small flyscreen. Enjoy the test, and if it's of any interest, my wife preferred the passenger set up on the Meteor to that on my Street Twin.
I'm from the US, a lot of the people here ride Harleys. Personally I ride a Triumph Speedmaster, I prefer the modern classics. So it's not that I dislike Harleys necessarily, they're great bikes. What I dislike is the way they run their dealerships, the high pricing of their bikes, and the complete lack of lower displacement models. I don't think I will ever be a Harley guy simply because the price is too high, I can easily find a bike that has just as much style and will do the same thing for me for a fraction of the price
I too am in the states. Oklahoma. I agree completely about the stealerships and the way the MoCo is ran from the corporate side is a disgrace to its iconic, American, heritage. So many things about Harley Davidson make me absolutely sick to my stomach! Especially having grown up loving the bikes! That said, as soon as I was able to afford one, I went out and bought the last ‘21 Low Rider S on the lot. It’s now or never I figured. I have my 114 M8, Harley Davidson, Big Twin, bike, and I’m never parting with it, lol.
@@robbyclark6915 Nice! The Low Rider and Indian Chief are both bikes I’ve considered, waiting to find a good deal though. I’ll probably be waiting years lol. Ride safe sir!
@@tomoates8568 Yeah, I bought mine right before Harley instituted all these surcharges and fees, so I paid right at MSRP for mine. They were motivated to sell it and make room for the ‘22s that were already coming out.
I hope you like the meteor ,I own one and like the bike a lot it is a perfect everyday ride if you don’t have to go anywhere fast a sort of modern day MZ250. As to Harley haters the bikes aren’t perfect and some of the owners took easyrider editorials way too seriously but the haters often haven’t ridden one and just don’t get what the bikes are about.
Some insight on why so many are so venomous towards HDs. It has less to do with the actual motorcycles and more to do with the obnoxiousness of Harley culture and riders. For a great many Harley riders, it's not about love of motorcycling, it's about a tough guy image. They aren't riding a motorcycle, they are riding a logo. It's an arrogant and obnoxious demographic that they've catered to, and more and more riders find it silly, and get irritated with the smugness. It's easy to impose that on the bikes themselves. HD has their work cut out for them in attracting new customers. What was once great marketing, is now a growing liability.
I love the 350 engine - smooth, flexible and plenty of power to get up to 50/60mph in a reasonably spritely manner. Like you, I didn’t go a bundle on the looks of the 350 Meteor, but loved the Super Meteor, where its looks were better proportioned.
Do they? Or are they just riding what they like? Almost every Harley owner I know also owns other brands of bikes or has owned other brands. I rarely ever hear them bashing on other bikes more than they bash on HD the company itself.
All I ever wanted was a cool-looking cruiser motorcycle that could get me from point A to point B. I watched many videos on the Honda Rebel, Kawasaki Vulcan S, Yamaha Bolt, etc., but in the end, I chose the original: a Harley Sportster. I do understand the haters when we are talking about the prices on the current Harley lineup (all bikes are over 20.000€ in Europe)...
Nothing wrong with Harleys, they are sometimes very good looking bikes, many times just too heavy for my liking but the engine with the good low end torque and a style of a big block engine that does not need to rev high at all, that is something I like more than in any other bike (regarded there are actually a few with same features from different manufacturers which can be also very nice). Actually, some Triumphs, Royal Enfields and maybe some others seem to have sort of same style (a low rev engine).
I don't see the need to give airtime to haters who watch something they hate, just for the pleasure of telling you they hate it. They only have themselves to make look dumb.... Keep doing what you do for the genuine appreciative audience.
I suspect much of the Harley hate comes from the United States, where many of us are just tired of the armies of Harley owners who seem to think that HD’s are the only real motorcycles. I don’t really have anything against the bikes, I just don’t want to be part of that group. They really are insufferable.
I wish you wouldn't think like that...I'm a Harley owner...I also own a Honda CBR 600rr...been riding 40yrs... absolutely luv motorcycles...try and treat each rider as an individual...even I noted some dudes on Harleys with that rebel without a cause attitude...lol..so ride safe and enjoy your ride. Peace
Boo hoo, sorry no random Harley person has personally stopped by to validate your bike purchase. So sad. Believe me, they don't want people like you either.
I'm from Texas and planned on buying a new Harley Davidson last year but had to cancel my order when I found out we were expecting a little girl. I bought a Royal Enfield 350 Classic instead. I don't regret it but when my financial situation allows it, I will buy a Harley. I've been in love with them since I started riding 24 years ago.
Another great video! I love all bikes but prefer classic looking bikes, this is why I love this channel so much for the bikes, humour, and excellent filming! Keep up the good work 👍
I have a Meteor and love it. But the yellow one you have is a 'Fireball' with the Stellar/Supernova screen and back rest. I don't hate Harley's but they aren't very suitable for the UK roads and are bloody heavy! Being 5' 7", I would not feel in control of such a heavy bike. On the other hand, the Meteor is almost perfect. I say almost because it needs a little bit more power and this should be easily achieved, but RE look to the Indian market where mpg is more important. Maybe they should make a non-Indian variant with say 27 bhp? I've ditched the back rest, fitted the lower seat and shocks and sorted out the horrible exhaust system and air filter. On Monday I went for a ride with a mate out for lunch. This was on typical UK back roads going between 20mph (bloody councils) and 60ish mph. The Meteor was such a nice ride. The weekend before when we stopped for lunch, an old lady who was sitting outside the pub said 'I love your bike!'.
Looking forward to your opinion of the Meteor. I’ve owned mine now for a year and a half, put almost 8500 km on it, and I absolutely love it! Longer trips (I’ve made 3), country lanes, popping out for the odd grocery item…it does it all. Just keep it off the motorway (Autobahn) 😉 I’m not keen on motorways so, no problem there.
I can remember back in the mid 1960s when Harley's were getting pinged by the press because of the bad quality builds under AMF ownership. In late 1960s again the press were negatively comparing the speed, build quality of less costly Japanese brands . Then everyone got mad at Harley when they asked and received temporarily relieve from the government with tariffs on imported machines over 700ccs. Perhaps one of the last pieces of resentment was Harley's success and popularity of their bikes in the 1990s accompanied with exorbitant price hikes and arrogance by Corporate Harley and it's dealers. There also been some European governments in the 2000s using Harley as the stick to beat American trade policy with the EU and still do. I guess if just look at the spec sheet and the value per dollar then the Harley models will never seem worthy.
H Ds are a lovely machine, Iconic, why would you not like one , they do seem to increase in value over time unlike any other , i cant afford one but dont begrudge people who can afford one , the note out of them is Awesome 😊 whats not to like . My Mate has just bought a Classic Royal Enfield and his Son have just bought a R E Meteor , i think they look great bikes , im hoping to get an Enfield in the near future, having said that regardless of who makes what I love all Motorbikes, great video as usual 😀 looking forward to your next vids , Thank you ride safe 😀.
I'm with the old man here , Harley haters are watching the wrong channel. I ride a classic 350 ( and a honda super cub 125) I love the mechanical simplicity of both machines ,I also love the styling of both machines. That is the joy of motorcycling , it is freedom to both go where you want and ride what you want (and love). I am an analogue man living in a digital age I suppose but I couldn't care less 😂👍
Thanks buddy. I think my point, which I forgot to mention in the video is that all the Harley lovers haven’t watched the video, yet a large proportion of haters have. Curious!
I don't think they are priced much differently than the Goldwing or BMW's big touring bikes -- they are all very expensive! Let's compare apples to apples.
Always enjoy your videos , like your to the point opinions (many chime with my own) I must admit I've never understood the "hate" some within the biking community have towards Harley's , I often wonder if its a mixture of envy and ignorance or maybe prejudice because they are made in America, whatever the reasons its illogical, we should celebrate the fact that Harley's exist just like we should celebrate all motorcycles exist ultimately if owning and riding a Harley puts a smile on your face and makes you happy then its a winner .
For me it is not a hate of the bikes when it comes to Harley Davidson, quite the opposite, fricken love them. The problem is more with the corporation and the artificially inflated prices. They aim to be a premium brand, and price their products as such, at least in my country. They are much more expensive than the competition, and that makes me feel like the bikes are not worth the price tag. Leaves me very disappointed and annoyed, and it is easy to take it out on the reviewers in the comment section. One thing that triggers me to no end, is when the reviewer says the MSRP of the bike, and neglect to mention that it is actually completely impossible to buy the bike anywhere near that price at the dealerships. There are so many fees and added costs, that the end price is at least 10% above MSRP out the door, and sometimes even higher. Gives a false impression of "expensive but affordable" when you watch reviews, when in reality they are priced high above their perceived value. As a Harley lover, and dreamer, that is frustrating and it pisses me off. I had the cash, went to a dealership after picking the bike I'd love to own, then got so much added cost and fees I just said no thanks and left, even though I had enough cash to buy even at the inflated price, I just felt cheated, it felt like a scam, so a hard pass on that "deal". Went to a Triumph dealership and picked up a bike at below the listed price after some negotiation. Love my Triumph, Harley lost a customer.
it looks okay, but just like some of the modern harleys, i prefer the classic look and style and definitely spoked wheels. i’m hoping enfield puts the 650 engine in the “classic” trim, i’d consider picking one up.
Don’t understand why one needs to be a hater… just keep scrolling! As for the Meteor, I thought I would find it more comfortable since I felt cramped on the classic 350. The handlebars have nicer pullback, and I thought I would like the heel/toe shifter. It ended up being my least favourite of the RE lineup. No knocking the looks, it’s just a matter of your fit/comfort/preferences. I thought I would be dialed in on the classic or meteor… after riding their lineup, I walked away with a scram which I just love. The point is: you have to ride them all till you find the perfect fit that puts the biggest smile on your face. No reason to hate on any bike. 😃
The Harley haters act as if they are being forced to watch Harley-centric content or purchase Harley motorcycles. It is really a strange sad delusion. Most people in the grown up world are able to navigate things that don't hold their interest without getting triggered.
While I imagine that disheartening I hope you guys continue the great content you have been providing. Your channel is somewhat unique in that it allows your personalities to shine through. I appreciate that honesty. Thanks again for the good work. @@MrDarcy-OlMan
Problem that they haven’t considered is that frustrated drivers are going to overtake dangerously (seen it already, many times), and professional drivers vans, deliveries etc are going to make up time by driving even faster out of the 20 zones.
I remember in the 80's and early 90's, when Honda Australia imported the Honda VT series of cruisers in 750cc and 1100cc, beautiful motorcycles reliable and well priced. Harley davidson riders Australia wide would take every opportunity to vandalise the bikes as Said Harley riders complained they were make believe Harley's. Haters are Haters
That's because their mostly accountants and see ownership of a Harley davidson as instant Street cred. In the 90's I nearly bought the newly released Harley Fatboy for $16,000aus, I bought a Honda RC30 instead. A better buy
I bought a Meteor 350 earlier this year. Second hand, 18 months old, 5k miles for £2k. I love the riding position but it’s a little slow for fast roads. At least No1 Son doesn’t keep borrowing it! He’s very much a speed lover and the Meteor just doesn’t cut it. I, on the other hand, am just an old plodder….. like the Meteor and my Enfield 350T trials iron
Look forward to the review. I have that Fireball Yellow it pops. I have added, heated grips, fly screen,touring mirrors, crash bars, sump plate, Tec adjustable levers, dna filter and plate Red Rooster exhaust, oh and a low seat, cause am only 5 foot 4. Noticed that your Fireball yellow has been fitted with the touring screen, and back rest.
Sir! I love your style and reviews! Life is much too short to mind haters at all! Will miss that beautiful Welsh landscape! Onto todays theme; Perhaps you should consider to also review old and beautiful classics? For sure I will like it! Greetings from Trondheim, Norway!
I kinda like haters, they make me feel not so angry and keeps me from yelling at clouds. I should make a video why I don't ride Harleys, they just didn't make a bike for a new rider in a price in 2001. Bought a Yamaha VStar 650 and put a lot of miles on that bike. I then got bikes with feet underneath me and ditched cruisers. Bad for your back. Anyways see you on your next.
I've had Harleys for 28 years , I tried a new Goldwing in 2019 so refined, however I kept my old 1990s Royal Enfield because I loved that too. I sold the Goldwing lost a bit obviously but had enough to buy an Evo electra glide, with a carb! So lovely, it tells you your going fast, which is a big thing with cameras everywhere. And it can cruise all way, return 50+ mpg and its something to carry loads of stuff on board. Anyone who dosent get Harleys has never lived with one. I've had BMWs in-between and I feel they don't deliver what's promised. I should have guessed they aren't reliable, as they are the only bike manufacturer to supply an optional SOS system for when you break down. And the worst part was when I needed it, it didn't work!! There's plenty of bike snobs, to me, if it's what you like, it's what you like. Having run a motorcycle business, I've had access to everything, and keep going back to EVO Harleys, had a friend clocked up 420k miles on one, he still has it, but bought another to use because his old bike has been being restored for the last 6 months. It'll back on the road for next year fully refreshed. I'm hoping to do the same. And the old Bullet will stay as a pop down the shops and weekend pootle bike. Everywhere I go it draws a crowd? Maybe because it's so polished and never gets dirty!!
It's important to be informed about Royal Enfield. People don't understand how often you need to check the valve clearances. It's every 5k which is a lot. It's a simple bike, but it can be very expensive to run if you're not doing it yourself, and if you are doing it yourself that's a lot of work to do every 5k. Hopefully the new engines have longer valve clearance checks with new tech in the 450. Its the only reason I didn't by an RE. Too much valve clearance checking and too often that I won't want to do it myself or pay anyone to do it for me.
Most of the people I’ve encountered who literally HATE Harley Davidson, are people who ride a second hand Japanese cruiser and just can’t afford a Harley Davidson. So they convince themselves that Harley makes heavy, outdated, slow, and EXPENSIVE, junk and that’s why they don’t ride a Harley. Then as soon as that promotion comes through, or they get an inheritance from grandma, they run out and buy a brand new Harley Davidson and post a thousand pictures a day of it on the gram!
I don't know....... I sold a Sportster lron (a beautiful motorbike) because it wasn't comfy enough for long rides, not for me anyway at 6'1". I was going to move up to a Dynaglide but l bought a XVS950 midnight star instead, like a much bigger & comfier Sportster. I could have afforded the Dyna but l am not hung up on the name on my tank.
I love classic bike, I love sport bike, I love adventure bike, dirt bike, custom bike, .... Actually I love bikes 😉 Not surprising I ended having 7 bikes in my garage, for sure I will not finish the richest of the graveyard but I’ll have lived my passion to the maximum 😀
I chose the Meteor over the Classic ✅ Because personal preference, e.g. seating position and looks. I am 46 and still felt too young for a new bike that looks historical. Displaces almost comical 🙈😉
I have never ridden a HD, they look fabulous though, some just love to hate it seems, went to Texas a few years back, with a plan to hire one, sadly the wife forgot her driving licence so I had to drive us... Still got a Dodge Ram to make the trip more authentic. The Meteor looks to be a great budget bike, look forward to your review.
I looked after a friend's custom Lowrider Harley for quite a while. Reliable, noisy, plenty of low down torque and it definitely had presence! I copped a lot of flak for wearing a full face and not buying into the whole scene - but that surely wasn't the bike's fault. I'm glad I experienced it, but probably not for me.
I have a Classic 350 but I also love the looks of the Meteor - especially in yellow. In fact it was the Meteor that first got me interested in the new Royal Enfields but I much preferred the riding position on the Classic 350. Ok, I'd probably put the speed in the middle but it's not a deal breaker for me.
I personally don't dislike harley, but it seems to me that they are like bmw, in that they are a bit like the 'apple' of the bike world, over priced and tend to take advantage of the fan base 😊
If I could buy a HD roadking classic, or a fat boy, I would. Just too expensive for me. There is always a Japanese bike for less money with the same specs.
I just love it when you bring up the name of the channel in your videos. It's always random and funny, "Well, I'm the old man"...always makes me smile.
You need to ride a Harley in the USA to understand what they are about and the conditions they are made for. We had a HD Dyna for a while - an excellent bike. We’ve had a number of REs and love them. I regard the RE Continental GT 535 as one of the best looking bikes ever made. I’ve had two of those but sadly the bike didn’t like me so much. The RE Intercepter is a great bike- I did a long trip on one last year, but I think the semi-cruiser style of the Meteor makes it supremely comfortable for long rides. I haven’t tried a Super Meteor but as an old bloke I lean towards smaller lighter bikes these days.
I've had a meteor 350 for a year and a half and I love it. Only thing is it could have a bit more go. Never been a cruiser guy before, but my little meteor has opened my eyes to them a bit. The only issue with Harleys for me, is I don't like the look of most of them (too much chrome and/or weird front cowl/fairing).... but there is the odd one or two they've come out with in the last few years that looks really very good. I like the idea of an air cooled single or twin, so will have a nose at them at some point. Thanks as always for the vid, and will be interested to see your thoughts on the meteor when your new vid comes out.
I think many resent HD's policy of being a luxury item, there is nothing in their lineup that most of the viewers of your channel can afford. For decades HD cultivated a 'badass' image, today all they offer is a two wheeled alternative to a Bentley. Their only somewhat affordable bike, the Sportster, was replaced with one that costs three times more. Motorcycling seems to be a slowly dying culture, at least in the western world where the average age of bikers is around 50, and HD is doing absolutely nothing to help recruit young people.
An Indian Hero motorcycle with a Harley tank badge, which is okay, but will it be offered in the west, or will the HD leadership decide that it conflicts with their new luxury image? Anyway, too little too late I think, HD is facing a difficult future.@@MrDarcy-OlMan
I'm hearing you loud and clear on the Harley haters issue. I own two Harleys, one of those for 20 years and 180,000 kms, and they've given me solid reliable service. I make a point of never questioning anyone's choice of motorcycle, yet I seem to get a lot of 'experts' telling me what unreliable and awful machines Harley Davidsons are. It usually turns out that they've never ridden one, but knew a bloke whose brother-in-law's neighbour had one in the 70's and apparently it broke down...
I agree- l ummed and errr about a Harley and bought an Enfield 500 because l couldn’t be arsed with the attitude. I now own a 103 softail and use it as l would a big Enfield , and it’s a very good fit for my lifestyle.
That’s a fireball yellow model with a touring screen and backrest fitted. The supernova doesn’t come in yellow, it also has different wheels and a chrome exhaust.
Never hated harley, but in my country, the harley riders are mostly arrogant egomaniacs. Mostly, they demand access in already packed traffic, forcing drivers to give them way, using their loud exhaust to signal their oncoming. So ironically, the bike is both respected and resented at the same time.
Maybe Harley haters are partly those who don't like big twins ? I have a 1000cc V twin Suzuki and recall a staff member at a dealership remarking to me that his pals hate the engine braking when coming off the throttle. I love it, partly because I'm tight and hate spending money on brake pads ! I've owned many engine types in 50 years of motorcycling, and having had a go on a pal's 1000cc Yamaha Thunderace inline 4 some time ago, was in the process of overtaking a line of three cars in top {5th} gear at 50 MPH and wondered where the torque went. Had to change down to 3rd to avoid being splattered by an oncoming lorry. I see you're still in Wales. Have you shelved the plan to move to sunny Spain ?
Watching you from Cyprus. I'm here for a few weeks. The weather is still very warm and beautiful here. 🌞 I miss my motorcycles (Harley & RE) in the UK though. It would be cool to ride here.
Amongst other bikes I own a 2019 Harley Sport Glide. It’s my firth Harley and in my experience the people who criticise Harleys have never ridden one and just don’t get the concept of one. In other words their opinion is generally born of ignorance.
Totally agree on your observations regarding appearances. That's a gorgeous ride..said no one ever when the plastic festooned ADV bikes ride by. Don't mean to sound harsh, had a GS prior to my Classic 350. That GS was an awesome bike. But the Classic 350 is just a different more fulfilling experience. The Meteor reminds me of the sad offerings from Harley Davidson in the mid 70's when Harley was getting kicked to the curb by the Japanese bikes just prior to the resurgence of the Cruiser scene. Cheers.
I have owned two brands of bikes in my life, Harley Davidson, and Honda. Both are fantastic machines in their own right. My local Harley dealer also sells BMW, Honda, and Royal Enfield. I have looked at their bikes, but have never ridden one. So far no desire to either. The 650's are bloated beyond belief. I hear people say Harleys are overweight, and yet that fact about RE's is just glossed over. Sorry, they have a long way to go to get my attention.
I don't hate Harleys, I will say that the only bikers who have tried to run me off the road were idiots who happened to be on Harleys. Never held that kind of behavior against the bike, but on the bikers. Funny thing is no one on a Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Triumph, Indians, Ariels, or Vespa has ever done that to me. Thanks for the video, good luck with selling jewelry. Ride on! Don't follow leaders!
I completely agree with you, a speedometer that is not in the middle is like a fist in the eye. Sometimes manufacturers make a great engine and then screw it up on the little things. Take for example the Triumph, the beautiful T120, T100 or Speed Twin 1200, the most beautiful analog instruments in the world, and then they spoil everything on the Speed Twin 900, which only has an analog speedometer. I can forgive only one brake disc in the front, when I drive I look further ahead anyway, but the instruments are another matter.
I love classic motorcycles and symmetrical things, I don't think I'm the only one in the world. Two cylinders, two exhaust pipes, two front brake discs, instrument panel in the middle, analog speedometer and tachometer in the panel. A message to all manufacturers: You have all kinds of options and accessories that I and many others don't need at all, and you don't have options that support symmetry on the bikes of the related line. 😪
Spot on. Moto Feng shui.
It would be a boring old world if we all liked the same things. Just ride your ride and enjoy it
It Is an old boring world and we do like the same things
most Harley haters have never even sat on one let alone ridden it, and the retro bikes have a fair amount of electronics on them and they are all pretty much more reliable than older bikes just as cars are far more reliable than they used to be, you just mentioned one of the few with regular issues, got to admit that the Meteor looks pretty good, my mate has one and absolutely loves the thing
I don't hate any bikes, I just have a personal preference for some bikes more than others. In 50 years of riding, I've had many different bikes, from race reps to metric cruisers and now ride a Harley and love it!
I started out on two stroke yams then a few z’s as I passed my test up to a GSX 1100 before a break to have a family. Coming back in my late 50,s I bought a HD sportster which led me to a low rider s and then my current bike which is a Streetglide special. I have ridden loads of bikes and will never understand the haters, ride and enjoy your own choice without criticism of others. We need to be one band of brothers out there as we don’t get many favours as it is. Look after each other and keep safe
Surprised there are so many Harley haters. I admit I wasn't a fan of the usual Harley look with the big front fairings but I love the look of their older bikes. Then in a recent video from F.Dobbs he showed how easy it was to remove the bags and fairing. Suddenly, without the front fairing and just the round headlight it looked amazing (to me).
Love the Meteor 350 myself. I think it looks better with the metallic paint and chrome variants (but like you said it's great to have options for everyone).
I think a lot of Harley hate is directed at Harley culture rather than at the motorcycles.
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That might be right and would be totally understandable, as there are so many posers which only show up at big motorcycle meetings with widely open pipes and a behavior that it is just a shame!
I love the bikes, but I stay away from these kind of folks!
@@johnsumser9743 In the little worlds that are motocycling cliques, yogurt has more "culture" than any group of buffoons that feeeeels they are what they ride.
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Harley haters either never grew up or they can't afford one. A real motorcycle enthusiast never hates on any kind of bike. Respect goes hand in hand when you are a true rider.
The arrogance and attitudes of a large number of Harley riders have turned most people off from the brand. I’ve never had someone riding a Suzuki tell me I should get a ‘real’ bike. Anyone can afford one, they’ll let you finance for 8 years. They’re nice bikes, but certainly not worth what you have to pay to get one, even on the used market.
@@elwood62 - right about the HD scene, but wrong about the bikes prices…
You can get EVOs and Sporties for around 7-8000,-€ Sportsters even for less… which offer perfect reliability and more HD feeling as the new ones 😇
@@SkysaxonDragonslayer the problem is that in the US a Road Glide lists for $21k, which is reasonable, but you can’t find a used one for under 25. Dealer markup is crazy here. I tried a Sportster years ago but it was physically too small for me. I felt like a circus bear.
That Meteor looks like a Fireball Yellow with the windscreen and backrest added. 🤔😎
Motorbikes are like music, not everyone likes all types, personally I think I’m lucky because I enjoy a large range of music and motorbikes, as to hating them, that’s just weird to hate an inanimate object, lol. I think because you and Darcy enjoy many different types it helps you give balanced, interesting reviews! Cheers👏😀👍
A motorcycle is a motorcycle
I wouldn't have a harley but I wouldn't slag anyone off for buying one
Harleys are kind of funny. People love to hate them and i kinda get them but at the same time i have a Road King and a Evo 1340 Fatboy that i love.
Here in Norway they are wery popular bikes.
Never got the urge to walk up to a stranger and tell them i dont like their bike
Evo Fatboy..that's just awesome!
I've had three Harley Davidsons. Two Sportster 883's and a Dyna Low Rider. Always over engineeried they felt like they would do a million miles (I did about 3k per year 😂) I enjoyed my Harley ownership very much. The only thing I didn't quite gel with was the lifestyle thing. I've always been a bit of a lone biker and was it was a little frowned upon not being part of the "clan". Also, there was a bit of "mine's better than yours" going on. They're great bikes though once you "get" them. Not for blighty weather though. Getting caught in a rainstorm meant a three hour cleaning job - with a toothbrush. But I would never criticise anyone's choices which is something that some other's do and this is actually something not strictly limited to Harley Davidson.
Showing Love & Respect Ol' man.
I'm 65 years old & been riding bikes since I was 11. I'm also a disabled veteran.
Anyway motorcycling is my lifestyle AND I'm not exactly particular about what I ride though I prefer Harleys.
Here's the question in two parts;
Does the bike make the man?
Does the man make the bike?
Johnny Boy
Pennsylvania USA
There's no reason to hate any motorcycle really, I loved both my Triumph T120 and my current ride a 117 HD Low Rider S, I challenge anyone to ride one and tell me that they don't love it. In a perfect world, I would own 5 or 6 different bikes. Riding a motorcycle makes us really feel alive, it's like having a super power yet realizing we're still human.
The Harleys like the Royal Enfields have " Soul ", unlike many of the Japanese and some BMW's... no matter how much tech or advance whatever you have it can feel like you are riding an air conditioner and even if it's faster , smoother, and brakes better if it does not have that soul factor it is the same as a Honda Accord vs an old tech Jaguar or MG..... and it is obviously ALL subjective. I love all motorcycles and all brands and have owned BMWs and Harleys, Suzukis and KTMs to name a few. Go out and ride what you love.
I was on the fence with Harleys...until I borrowed one for a couple of weeks. Now I get it completely. Ride one, then comment.
I guarantee most of the Harley haters are either parroting the oil issues from the AMF years or they sat on a Twin Cam once and didn't like the vibrations. Most guys who sit on a M8 would love a Harley. It's plenty quick, sounds great, reliable, comfortable and looks brilliant & there's nothing more required from a bike than that.
I’m by no means a Harley fan, but I have to admire the brand, culture, looks, and the level of performance and reliability that Harley has created. There’s no need for hate, us motorcyclists are all part of a family that just loves riding. The diversity of our bikes is what keeps it interesting!
ACF 50 is good stuff for stopping corrosion. If you ride with it on your bike it will collect debris. However when you clean that off there's no corrosion but it needs to be renewed!
I have tried to live my life with two rules, It’s nice to be nice and if you haven’t got something nice to say, better to say nothing. Constructive criticism and a difference of opinion is a great and welcome contrast when done fairly. For instance who really likes adverts in the middle of a show 😂. I think we have all wanted things to be simpler and coming from a generation when they were, we are lucky to still have that chance. You both love your bikes and certainly fortunate you get the chance to try so many and does create great content and entertainment to enjoy. 👍
A motorcycle is a tool. You wouldn’t try to ride a Road King or Gold Wing on a motocross track nor would you want to ride a 125 cross country on a highway where the speeds are 70 MPH or better. I don’t own a Harley but just rented a Road Glide and finished two days, over six hundred miles at speeds of 80 MPH and higher. The machine handled it without any issues and I was very comfortable. For a long distance machine I wouldn’t chose any other.
I eventually managed to throw my leg over a SuperNova about a week ago. Good bike, with that familiar sound/feel 😎
Since the launch of the SM 6fifty, my appreciation towards the Meteor 3fifty has grown folds. It’s way easier to live with on a daily basis.
There’s an overall lack of civility in general, and it’s worse when it’s on-line and anonymous. My rule of thumb is to speak to everyone as if talking to a local in a rural Scottish pub….that is to say, be polite and respectful, lest you get a (well deserved) beating.
This year the boss and I toured Scotland (600 miles) and Derbyshire Dales (400 miles) 2 up with luggage on the Meteor-it was brilliant. Same colour as yours, but with the small flyscreen. Enjoy the test, and if it's of any interest, my wife preferred the passenger set up on the Meteor to that on my Street Twin.
I'm from the US, a lot of the people here ride Harleys. Personally I ride a Triumph Speedmaster, I prefer the modern classics. So it's not that I dislike Harleys necessarily, they're great bikes. What I dislike is the way they run their dealerships, the high pricing of their bikes, and the complete lack of lower displacement models. I don't think I will ever be a Harley guy simply because the price is too high, I can easily find a bike that has just as much style and will do the same thing for me for a fraction of the price
I too am in the states. Oklahoma. I agree completely about the stealerships and the way the MoCo is ran from the corporate side is a disgrace to its iconic, American, heritage. So many things about Harley Davidson make me absolutely sick to my stomach! Especially having grown up loving the bikes! That said, as soon as I was able to afford one, I went out and bought the last ‘21 Low Rider S on the lot. It’s now or never I figured. I have my 114 M8, Harley Davidson, Big Twin, bike, and I’m never parting with it, lol.
@@robbyclark6915 Nice! The Low Rider and Indian Chief are both bikes I’ve considered, waiting to find a good deal though. I’ll probably be waiting years lol. Ride safe sir!
@@tomoates8568 Yeah, I bought mine right before Harley instituted all these surcharges and fees, so I paid right at MSRP for mine. They were motivated to sell it and make room for the ‘22s that were already coming out.
I hope you like the meteor ,I own one and like the bike a lot it is a perfect everyday ride if you don’t have to go anywhere fast a sort of modern day MZ250. As to Harley haters the bikes aren’t perfect and some of the owners took easyrider editorials way too seriously but the haters often haven’t ridden one and just don’t get what the bikes are about.
A finishing touch would be gaiters on the forx like on the Hunter 350.
I'm American and I love ALL bikes. Mostly Italian but I want a Triumph Rocket 3 GT someday. But I even like Harleys. All bikes are cool!
Some insight on why so many are so venomous towards HDs. It has less to do with the actual motorcycles and more to do with the obnoxiousness of Harley culture and riders. For a great many Harley riders, it's not about love of motorcycling, it's about a tough guy image. They aren't riding a motorcycle, they are riding a logo. It's an arrogant and obnoxious demographic that they've catered to, and more and more riders find it silly, and get irritated with the smugness. It's easy to impose that on the bikes themselves. HD has their work cut out for them in attracting new customers. What was once great marketing, is now a growing liability.
So true! Always wanted a Harley and now I can maybe afford a nice used one, I can't see me buying one because of the cr*p surrounding them.
I love the 350 engine - smooth, flexible and plenty of power to get up to 50/60mph in a reasonably spritely manner. Like you, I didn’t go a bundle on the looks of the 350 Meteor, but loved the Super Meteor, where its looks were better proportioned.
Well, Harley guys hate on everyone else. I say, ride what makes you happy. I love all bikes.
Do they? Or are they just riding what they like? Almost every Harley owner I know also owns other brands of bikes or has owned other brands. I rarely ever hear them bashing on other bikes more than they bash on HD the company itself.
All I ever wanted was a cool-looking cruiser motorcycle that could get me from point A to point B. I watched many videos on the Honda Rebel, Kawasaki Vulcan S, Yamaha Bolt, etc., but in the end, I chose the original: a Harley Sportster. I do understand the haters when we are talking about the prices on the current Harley lineup (all bikes are over 20.000€ in Europe)...
Nothing wrong with Harleys, they are sometimes very good looking bikes, many times just too heavy for my liking but the engine with the good low end torque and a style of a big block engine that does not need to rev high at all, that is something I like more than in any other bike (regarded there are actually a few with same features from different manufacturers which can be also very nice). Actually, some Triumphs, Royal Enfields and maybe some others seem to have sort of same style (a low rev engine).
I don't see the need to give airtime to haters who watch something they hate, just for the pleasure of telling you they hate it. They only have themselves to make look dumb....
Keep doing what you do for the genuine appreciative audience.
I suspect much of the Harley hate comes from the United States, where many of us are just tired of the armies of Harley owners who seem to think that HD’s are the only real motorcycles. I don’t really have anything against the bikes, I just don’t want to be part of that group. They really are insufferable.
I wish you wouldn't think like that...I'm a Harley owner...I also own a Honda CBR 600rr...been riding 40yrs... absolutely luv motorcycles...try and treat each rider as an individual...even I noted some dudes on Harleys with that rebel without a cause attitude...lol..so ride safe and enjoy your ride. Peace
Boo hoo, sorry no random Harley person has personally stopped by to validate your bike purchase. So sad. Believe me, they don't want people like you either.
@@ChuckChrome You’re exactly who I’m talking about. What an asswipe.
I'm from Texas and planned on buying a new Harley Davidson last year but had to cancel my order when I found out we were expecting a little girl. I bought a Royal Enfield 350 Classic instead. I don't regret it but when my financial situation allows it, I will buy a Harley. I've been in love with them since I started riding 24 years ago.
Another great video! I love all bikes but prefer classic looking bikes, this is why I love this channel so much for the bikes, humour, and excellent filming! Keep up the good work 👍
I have a Meteor and love it. But the yellow one you have is a 'Fireball' with the Stellar/Supernova screen and back rest.
I don't hate Harley's but they aren't very suitable for the UK roads and are bloody heavy! Being 5' 7", I would not feel in control of such a heavy bike.
On the other hand, the Meteor is almost perfect. I say almost because it needs a little bit more power and this should be easily achieved, but RE look to the Indian market where mpg is more important. Maybe they should make a non-Indian variant with say 27 bhp?
I've ditched the back rest, fitted the lower seat and shocks and sorted out the horrible exhaust system and air filter. On Monday I went for a ride with a mate out for lunch. This was on typical UK back roads going between 20mph (bloody councils) and 60ish mph. The Meteor was such a nice ride.
The weekend before when we stopped for lunch, an old lady who was sitting outside the pub said 'I love your bike!'.
Looking forward to your opinion of the Meteor. I’ve owned mine now for a year and a half, put almost 8500 km on it, and I absolutely love it! Longer trips (I’ve made 3), country lanes, popping out for the odd grocery item…it does it all. Just keep it off the motorway (Autobahn) 😉 I’m not keen on motorways so, no problem there.
I can remember back in the mid 1960s when Harley's were getting pinged by the press because of the bad quality builds under AMF ownership. In late 1960s again the press were negatively comparing the speed, build quality of less costly Japanese brands . Then everyone got mad at Harley when they asked and received temporarily relieve from the government with tariffs on imported machines over 700ccs.
Perhaps one of the last pieces of resentment was Harley's success and popularity of their bikes in the 1990s accompanied with exorbitant price hikes and arrogance by Corporate Harley and it's dealers.
There also been some European governments in the 2000s using Harley as the stick to beat American trade policy with the EU and still do.
I guess if just look at the spec sheet and the value per dollar then the Harley models will never seem worthy.
H Ds are a lovely machine, Iconic, why would you not like one , they do seem to increase in value over time unlike any other , i cant afford one but dont begrudge people who can afford one , the note out of them is Awesome 😊 whats not to like .
My Mate has just bought a Classic Royal Enfield and his Son have just bought a R E Meteor , i think they look great bikes , im hoping to get an Enfield in the near future, having said that regardless of who makes what I love all Motorbikes, great video as usual 😀 looking forward to your next vids , Thank you ride safe 😀.
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I would love a Harley if I had The Ol' Man's Frame. Unfortunately I am only 64Kgs so I would look ridiculous on a big bike like that. 😂
I'm with the old man here , Harley haters are watching the wrong channel. I ride a classic 350 ( and a honda super cub 125) I love the mechanical simplicity of both machines ,I also love the styling of both machines. That is the joy of motorcycling , it is freedom to both go where you want and ride what you want (and love). I am an analogue man living in a digital age I suppose but I couldn't care less 😂👍
Thanks buddy. I think my point, which I forgot to mention in the video is that all the Harley lovers haven’t watched the video, yet a large proportion of haters have. Curious!
I certainly don't hate Harleys they are nice characterful machines .
But for me they are hugely overpriced.
I don't think they are priced much differently than the Goldwing or BMW's big touring bikes -- they are all very expensive! Let's compare apples to apples.
Always enjoy your videos , like your to the point opinions (many chime with my own) I must admit I've never understood the "hate" some within the biking community have towards Harley's , I often wonder if its a mixture of envy and ignorance or maybe prejudice because they are made in America, whatever the reasons its illogical, we should celebrate the fact that Harley's exist just like we should celebrate all motorcycles exist ultimately if owning and riding a Harley puts a smile on your face and makes you happy then its a winner .
For me it is not a hate of the bikes when it comes to Harley Davidson, quite the opposite, fricken love them. The problem is more with the corporation and the artificially inflated prices. They aim to be a premium brand, and price their products as such, at least in my country. They are much more expensive than the competition, and that makes me feel like the bikes are not worth the price tag. Leaves me very disappointed and annoyed, and it is easy to take it out on the reviewers in the comment section.
One thing that triggers me to no end, is when the reviewer says the MSRP of the bike, and neglect to mention that it is actually completely impossible to buy the bike anywhere near that price at the dealerships. There are so many fees and added costs, that the end price is at least 10% above MSRP out the door, and sometimes even higher. Gives a false impression of "expensive but affordable" when you watch reviews, when in reality they are priced high above their perceived value.
As a Harley lover, and dreamer, that is frustrating and it pisses me off. I had the cash, went to a dealership after picking the bike I'd love to own, then got so much added cost and fees I just said no thanks and left, even though I had enough cash to buy even at the inflated price, I just felt cheated, it felt like a scam, so a hard pass on that "deal". Went to a Triumph dealership and picked up a bike at below the listed price after some negotiation. Love my Triumph, Harley lost a customer.
This cool little bike has its own appeal.
People that hate Harley are closed minded, same as the Harley riders that hate other bikes.
it looks okay, but just like some of the modern harleys, i prefer the classic look and style and definitely spoked wheels. i’m hoping enfield puts the 650 engine in the “classic” trim, i’d consider picking one up.
Don’t understand why one needs to be a hater… just keep scrolling!
As for the Meteor, I thought I would find it more comfortable since I felt cramped on the classic 350. The handlebars have nicer pullback, and I thought I would like the heel/toe shifter. It ended up being my least favourite of the RE lineup. No knocking the looks, it’s just a matter of your fit/comfort/preferences. I thought I would be dialed in on the classic or meteor… after riding their lineup, I walked away with a scram which I just love. The point is: you have to ride them all till you find the perfect fit that puts the biggest smile on your face. No reason to hate on any bike. 😃
The classic 350 is a thing of beauty but it’s not for me, I’d much prefer the Meteor 350 for it’s simpler cleaner style.
The Harley haters act as if they are being forced to watch Harley-centric content or purchase Harley motorcycles. It is really a strange sad delusion. Most people in the grown up world are able to navigate things that don't hold their interest without getting triggered.
Yes, we get people who hate on every video, like it’s their mission!
While I imagine that disheartening I hope you guys continue the great content you have been providing. Your channel is somewhat unique in that it allows your personalities to shine through. I appreciate that honesty. Thanks again for the good work. @@MrDarcy-OlMan
@@ChuckChrome 😊
The default 20 mph zones in Wales..this isn't good for motorcycling. What is Drakeford and co thinking of ?
Problem that they haven’t considered is that frustrated drivers are going to overtake dangerously (seen it already, many times), and professional drivers vans, deliveries etc are going to make up time by driving even faster out of the 20 zones.
I would be interested in this bike if it was also offered with mid-mounted 'pegs...
The 350cc engine would be perfect for my needs.
I remember in the 80's and early 90's, when Honda Australia imported the Honda VT series of cruisers in 750cc and 1100cc, beautiful motorcycles reliable and well priced. Harley davidson riders Australia wide would take every opportunity to vandalise the bikes as Said Harley riders complained they were make believe Harley's. Haters are Haters
Exactly, haters are haters.
Fun fact: in my personal experience a higher percentage of HOG riders hate the ricer riders than v/s.
That's because their mostly accountants and see ownership of a Harley davidson as instant Street cred.
In the 90's I nearly bought the newly released Harley Fatboy for $16,000aus, I bought a Honda RC30 instead.
A better buy
Top bike...I have exactly the same one in the most beautiful color...
I bought a Meteor 350 earlier this year. Second hand, 18 months old, 5k miles for £2k. I love the riding position but it’s a little slow for fast roads. At least No1 Son doesn’t keep borrowing it! He’s very much a speed lover and the Meteor just doesn’t cut it. I, on the other hand, am just an old plodder….. like the Meteor and my Enfield 350T trials iron
“Over-sized scooter” too right you are
I was looking to pick one of these bikes up here in the states when I first saw it. Then along came the Super Meteor. Now I'm looking into that one 😋
Look forward to the review. I have that Fireball Yellow it pops. I have added, heated grips, fly screen,touring mirrors, crash bars, sump plate, Tec adjustable levers, dna filter and plate Red Rooster exhaust, oh and a low seat, cause am only 5 foot 4.
Noticed that your Fireball yellow has been fitted with the touring screen, and back rest.
Nice review dear Ol'man on Royal Enfield Mateor 350 motorcycles.I liked your video and the Advertisement Darcy has made during the Video.Excellent🎉
Sir! I love your style and reviews! Life is much too short to mind haters at all!
Will miss that beautiful Welsh landscape!
Onto todays theme; Perhaps you should consider to also review old and beautiful classics? For sure I will like it!
Greetings from Trondheim, Norway!
We are intending to review classic bikes asap 👍🏼
I kinda like haters, they make me feel not so angry and keeps me from yelling at clouds. I should make a video why I don't ride Harleys, they just didn't make a bike for a new rider in a price in 2001. Bought a Yamaha VStar 650 and put a lot of miles on that bike. I then got bikes with feet underneath me and ditched cruisers. Bad for your back. Anyways see you on your next.
I've had Harleys for 28 years , I tried a new Goldwing in 2019 so refined, however I kept my old 1990s Royal Enfield because I loved that too. I sold the Goldwing lost a bit obviously but had enough to buy an Evo electra glide, with a carb! So lovely, it tells you your going fast, which is a big thing with cameras everywhere. And it can cruise all way, return 50+ mpg and its something to carry loads of stuff on board. Anyone who dosent get Harleys has never lived with one. I've had BMWs in-between and I feel they don't deliver what's promised. I should have guessed they aren't reliable, as they are the only bike manufacturer to supply an optional SOS system for when you break down. And the worst part was when I needed it, it didn't work!!
There's plenty of bike snobs, to me, if it's what you like, it's what you like. Having run a motorcycle business, I've had access to everything, and keep going back to EVO Harleys, had a friend clocked up 420k miles on one, he still has it, but bought another to use because his old bike has been being restored for the last 6 months. It'll back on the road for next year fully refreshed. I'm hoping to do the same. And the old Bullet will stay as a pop down the shops and weekend pootle bike. Everywhere I go it draws a crowd? Maybe because it's so polished and never gets dirty!!
Your reviews are justvon another level, Ol'Man 👍
Keep up the excellent style, pleeese 🙏
I will ride anything, anytime. I'm not picky, but I do favor my RECL 350....
It's important to be informed about Royal Enfield. People don't understand how often you need to check the valve clearances. It's every 5k which is a lot. It's a simple bike, but it can be very expensive to run if you're not doing it yourself, and if you are doing it yourself that's a lot of work to do every 5k. Hopefully the new engines have longer valve clearance checks with new tech in the 450. Its the only reason I didn't by an RE. Too much valve clearance checking and too often that I won't want to do it myself or pay anyone to do it for me.
As long as you’re on 2 wheels and enjoying yourself who cares what you ride. IMO bikes have way too many features now anyway.
Most of the people I’ve encountered who literally HATE Harley Davidson, are people who ride a second hand Japanese cruiser and just can’t afford a Harley Davidson. So they convince themselves that Harley makes heavy, outdated, slow, and EXPENSIVE, junk and that’s why they don’t ride a Harley. Then as soon as that promotion comes through, or they get an inheritance from grandma, they run out and buy a brand new Harley Davidson and post a thousand pictures a day of it on the gram!
I don't know....... I sold a Sportster lron (a beautiful motorbike) because it wasn't comfy enough for long rides, not for me anyway at 6'1". I was going to move up to a Dynaglide but l bought a XVS950 midnight star instead, like a much bigger & comfier Sportster. I could have afforded the Dyna but l am not hung up on the name on my tank.
@@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 You did see the big “HATE” In my comment right? You don’t exactly qualify as a hater of Harley Davidson my man.
I would love a Harley - I just can't afford one (excepting sportsters).
I just bought a really nice used Fat Boy for a great price,they are out there.
I love classic bike, I love sport bike, I love adventure bike, dirt bike, custom bike, .... Actually I love bikes 😉 Not surprising I ended having 7 bikes in my garage, for sure I will not finish the richest of the graveyard but I’ll have lived my passion to the maximum 😀
I chose the Meteor over the Classic ✅ Because personal preference, e.g. seating position and looks. I am 46 and still felt too young for a new bike that looks historical. Displaces almost comical 🙈😉
Touring on third world scenic roads on any low-slung cruiser will make you hate them 😅
I have never ridden a HD, they look fabulous though, some just love to hate it seems, went to Texas a few years back, with a plan to hire one, sadly the wife forgot her driving licence so I had to drive us... Still got a Dodge Ram to make the trip more authentic.
The Meteor looks to be a great budget bike, look forward to your review.
I looked after a friend's custom Lowrider Harley for quite a while. Reliable, noisy, plenty of low down torque and it definitely had presence!
I copped a lot of flak for wearing a full face and not buying into the whole scene - but that surely wasn't the bike's fault. I'm glad I experienced it, but probably not for me.
I have a Classic 350 but I also love the looks of the Meteor - especially in yellow. In fact it was the Meteor that first got me interested in the new Royal Enfields but I much preferred the riding position on the Classic 350. Ok, I'd probably put the speed in the middle but it's not a deal breaker for me.
I personally don't dislike harley, but it seems to me that they are like bmw, in that they are a bit like the 'apple' of the bike world, over priced and tend to take advantage of the fan base 😊
My biggest complaint about Harley is they are way overpriced. For instance, the Street Glide Special STARTS at $30,000 American dollars.
If I could buy a HD roadking classic, or a fat boy, I would. Just too expensive for me. There is always a Japanese bike for less money with the same specs.
I just love it when you bring up the name of the channel in your videos. It's always random and funny, "Well, I'm the old man"...always makes me smile.
Thank you haha, you’d be surprised how many people get confused and think the Ol’Man is Mr Darcy 😂
And what is the Ol’ man’s name please?
I ride a motor bike.
Thats enough.
I like what I have but it may well not be what others like.
Do I care? Nope.
You need to ride a Harley in the USA to understand what they are about and the conditions they are made for. We had a HD Dyna for a while - an excellent bike. We’ve had a number of REs and love them. I regard the RE Continental GT 535 as one of the best looking bikes ever made. I’ve had two of those but sadly the bike didn’t like me so much. The RE Intercepter is a great bike- I did a long trip on one last year, but I think the semi-cruiser style of the Meteor makes it supremely comfortable for long rides. I haven’t tried a Super Meteor but as an old bloke I lean towards smaller lighter bikes these days.
I've had a meteor 350 for a year and a half and I love it. Only thing is it could have a bit more go. Never been a cruiser guy before, but my little meteor has opened my eyes to them a bit. The only issue with Harleys for me, is I don't like the look of most of them (too much chrome and/or weird front cowl/fairing).... but there is the odd one or two they've come out with in the last few years that looks really very good. I like the idea of an air cooled single or twin, so will have a nose at them at some point. Thanks as always for the vid, and will be interested to see your thoughts on the meteor when your new vid comes out.
I think many resent HD's policy of being a luxury item, there is nothing in their lineup that most of the viewers of your channel can afford. For decades HD cultivated a 'badass' image, today all they offer is a two wheeled alternative to a Bentley. Their only somewhat affordable bike, the Sportster, was replaced with one that costs three times more. Motorcycling seems to be a slowly dying culture, at least in the western world where the average age of bikers is around 50, and HD is doing absolutely nothing to help recruit young people.
Don’t forget that Harley have brought out the 400 👍🏼
An Indian Hero motorcycle with a Harley tank badge, which is okay, but will it be offered in the west, or will the HD leadership decide that it conflicts with their new luxury image? Anyway, too little too late I think, HD is facing a difficult future.@@MrDarcy-OlMan
I had a K1600B - awesome bike ...but I traded it for a road king (which I think is the best tourer BTW 😊) and have never looked back!
I'm hearing you loud and clear on the Harley haters issue. I own two Harleys, one of those for 20 years and 180,000 kms, and they've given me solid reliable service. I make a point of never questioning anyone's choice of motorcycle, yet I seem to get a lot of 'experts' telling me what unreliable and awful machines Harley Davidsons are. It usually turns out that they've never ridden one, but knew a bloke whose brother-in-law's neighbour had one in the 70's and apparently it broke down...
Got you, i like the HD. I owned one. But it’s where HD stands for. The community and the show around it, I hate. HD is becoming a bike for the ritch.
I agree- l ummed and errr about a Harley and bought an Enfield 500 because l couldn’t be arsed with the attitude. I now own a 103 softail and use it as l would a big Enfield , and it’s a very good fit for my lifestyle.
That’s a fireball yellow model with a touring screen and backrest fitted. The supernova doesn’t come in yellow, it also has different wheels and a chrome exhaust.
Yes thanks! I was told it would be a supernova so at this point, I hadn’t checked !
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I have one in exactly the same colour, to me the blacked out engine and black exhaust look better than the chrome anyway lol
Never hated harley, but in my country, the harley riders are mostly arrogant egomaniacs. Mostly, they demand access in already packed traffic, forcing drivers to give them way, using their loud exhaust to signal their oncoming. So ironically, the bike is both respected and resented at the same time.
Nice video
this is my favorite color
Maybe Harley haters are partly those who don't like big twins ? I have a 1000cc V twin Suzuki and recall a staff member at a dealership remarking to me that his pals hate the engine braking when coming off the throttle. I love it, partly because I'm tight and hate spending money on brake pads ! I've owned many engine types in 50 years of motorcycling, and having had a go on a pal's 1000cc Yamaha Thunderace inline 4 some time ago, was in the process of overtaking a line of three cars in top {5th} gear at 50 MPH and wondered where the torque went. Had to change down to 3rd to avoid being splattered by an oncoming lorry.
I see you're still in Wales. Have you shelved the plan to move to sunny Spain ?
I like the speakers on the Harley's loud music could make a road more enjoyable
Watching you from Cyprus. I'm here for a few weeks. The weather is still very warm and beautiful here. 🌞 I miss my motorcycles (Harley & RE) in the UK though. It would be cool to ride here.
Enjoy the sun ☀️
Amongst other bikes I own a 2019 Harley Sport Glide. It’s my firth Harley and in my experience the people who criticise Harleys have never ridden one and just don’t get the concept of one. In other words their opinion is generally born of ignorance.
Totally agree on your observations regarding appearances. That's a gorgeous ride..said no one ever when the plastic festooned ADV bikes ride by. Don't mean to sound harsh, had a GS prior to my Classic 350. That GS was an awesome bike. But the Classic 350 is just a different more fulfilling experience. The Meteor reminds me of the sad offerings from Harley Davidson in the mid 70's when Harley was getting kicked to the curb by the Japanese bikes just prior to the resurgence of the Cruiser scene. Cheers.
I have owned two brands of bikes in my life, Harley Davidson, and Honda. Both are fantastic machines in their own right. My local Harley dealer also sells BMW, Honda, and Royal Enfield. I have looked at their bikes, but have never ridden one. So far no desire to either. The 650's are bloated beyond belief. I hear people say Harleys are overweight, and yet that fact about RE's is just glossed over.
Sorry, they have a long way to go to get my attention.
It looks nice and I ❤the yellow!
Harley haters seem to resent what a Harley is, whereas those who like them understand that they are exactly what they are meant to be.
I don't hate Harleys, I will say that the only bikers who have tried to run me off the road were idiots who happened to be on Harleys. Never held that kind of behavior against the bike, but on the bikers. Funny thing is no one on a Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Triumph, Indians, Ariels, or Vespa has ever done that to me.
Thanks for the video, good luck with selling jewelry. Ride on! Don't follow leaders!