NEURAL PARASITE: Star Trek Bestiary

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  • @ExUSSailor
    @ExUSSailor 3 роки тому +205

    They, like the Borg, were scarier when they were an unknown.

    • @Zoloft77
      @Zoloft77 3 роки тому +21

      To a Romulan, knowledge is power, but to be unknowable is to be unconquerable.

    • @MandalorV7
      @MandalorV7 3 роки тому +14

      Why are we afraid of the dark? Because we can never truly know what is out there. Our minds perceive threats of all sorts.
      To know something is to understand it. When you understand something you know how much of a threat it can be.

    • @spacetechempire510
      @spacetechempire510 3 роки тому +9

      At least the borg announce there intentions

    • @johnwang9914
      @johnwang9914 3 роки тому +3

      I see the Borg as a potential result of technologic integration, particularly the formation of a hive personality through neural link communication that somehow chooses to dominate or rather suppress the consciousnesses of it's contributing members. This means that like the Cybermen of Dr. Who, they can and will develop independently as technologic civilizations reach levels of mobile communication technology not much more advance than our own mobile communication and social networks. Even if you destroyed all Borg, other civilizations somewhere will fall into the same path. Neural parasites have to be very specific to their hosts and we do have a few fungal Cordyceps that do this but they are very specific to the insects they infect which actually has resulted in ant colonies ripping the heads off any ant that behaves erratically. Such specificity means neural parasites rarely evolves but the development of a technologic hive mind that chooses to suppress the consciousness of it's contributing members might be a rather high probability, just think about how spontaneously flash jobs and memes have been and even the disinformation spread of populism has been.

    • @gabelogan5877
      @gabelogan5877 3 роки тому +2

      AOL held a sci fi submission contest and someone submitted a DS9 script with the parasites infiltrating the station. The submission won. It was a brilliant script and I wish I still had a copy.

  • @Peregrine57
    @Peregrine57 3 роки тому +92

    A criminally underrated plot thread that never got picked up again in canon, unfortunately. It could make for an interesting story if they ever wanted to revisit them.

    • @christymclaughlin618
      @christymclaughlin618 Рік тому +3

      2023 here. You're getting your wish now with Picard season 3

    • @Peregrine57
      @Peregrine57 Рік тому +3

      @@christymclaughlin618 Unfortunately, Seasons 1 & 2 had a bad habit of teasing more interesting stories or plot points, only to fake-out and do something dumb instead. If Season 3 picks up on the Bluegills, let's hope they actually make it interesting.

    • @NLaertes
      @NLaertes Рік тому +1

      If they return in Picard S3, i think im gonna need more than a sweet puppy photo to cleanse my brain...

    • @Peregrine57
      @Peregrine57 Рік тому +1

      @@NLaertes I think at this point, we're probably in the clear. This season has been going pretty well so far, and we're deep enough into it now that if the bluegills turn out to be part of it, it would be an egregious act of fan service that would ruin the whole thing.

    • @xellestar
      @xellestar 9 місяців тому +1

      I don't believe any of the characters in any Picard season were the same people the actors previously portrayed, this explains everything and further reinforces dismissing it as poor fanfic!

  • @kirkkerman
    @kirkkerman 3 роки тому +74

    Yeah, they're definitely better left as a mystery from the dark corners of space, the kind of horrors Q warned we might see out there beyond the Federations' safe little bubble of civilization.

    • @VaporeonEnjoyer1
      @VaporeonEnjoyer1 3 роки тому +10

      Agreed. Once horror is defined, it's origin canonized, all horror is striped away. Then it becomes just another disease that mankind must be aware of, like any other pathogen. It's why HP Lovecraft style of unknowable cosmic horror has lasted almost 100 years after his death.

  • @kensmith2285
    @kensmith2285 3 роки тому +73

    Admiral Quinn survived his encounter with the bluegill at the end of the episode because the mother host died

    • @admiraljetro8783
      @admiraljetro8783 3 роки тому +7

      No. Quinn was a joined Trill. A Trill or Joined Trill are the only ones we know of that can survive being linked up to these parasites

    • @GenericTurtle
      @GenericTurtle 3 роки тому +21

      @@admiraljetro8783 You're thinking of Admiral Quinn from STO. Ken Smith is talking about Admiral Gregory Quinn from TNG, who very much survived.

  • @dedwoodpete
    @dedwoodpete 3 роки тому +50

    Seems like the idea of an alien species infiltrating Starfleet to cause trouble was done later with the Changelings in The Dominion War.

    • @johnbockelie3899
      @johnbockelie3899 3 роки тому +1

      They eventually encountered a giant alien can of " Raid" bug spray in deep outer space.

  • @attila535
    @attila535 3 роки тому +155

    Meanhwile the Goa'uld: Ha, amateurs.

    • @Tiberon098
      @Tiberon098 3 роки тому +3

      Lol.

    • @Mate397
      @Mate397 3 роки тому +20

      "WHILE YOU WERE LEARNING TO SPELL YOUR NAME...I WAS TAUGHT TO CONQUER GALAXIES!!"

    • @atomic_wait
      @atomic_wait 3 роки тому +22

      Growing up in the 90s I also associate this trope of small, mind controlling, malicious parasites with the Yeerks from animorphs.

    • @AdamantLightLP
      @AdamantLightLP 3 роки тому +10

      @@atomic_wait now THAT'S a title I haven't heard since elementary school.

    • @atomic_wait
      @atomic_wait 3 роки тому +3

      @@Mate397 'Crap lousy celling!'

  • @MrBigCookieCrumble
    @MrBigCookieCrumble 3 роки тому +30

    Was more unnerved by these things than most "threats" we often see in Trek, creepy little buggers!

  • @dmkatelyn
    @dmkatelyn 3 роки тому +110

    I like how STO takes fairly minor things from the shows she makes them central to the plot.

  • @DarthAzabrush
    @DarthAzabrush 3 роки тому +18

    I love the idea of them being mutant Trill. Particularly how that revelation effects the Federation's fragile post war internal politics (the Tellarite ambassador in the DS9 books is one of my favourite Beta Canon characters)

  • @SpartanSniper3
    @SpartanSniper3 3 роки тому +21

    Considering the mass pacification of Starfleet after the Khitomer Accords, I think the fan theory that these things have been weakening Starfleet for years in preparation for an invasion holds some interesting possibilities. Shame we never had a follow-up.

    • @badlaamaurukehu
      @badlaamaurukehu 3 роки тому +3

      Just look around

    • @andrewriker2192
      @andrewriker2192 3 роки тому +1

      “Why did the Borg only send 1 cube?”
      You’ll enjoy the audio show “Star Trek Excelsior”. Take their advice and start in season 3.

    • @nicoleackerman205
      @nicoleackerman205 2 роки тому +2

      I heard they could not do it because it would cost to much budget wise/places were banning the episode.

    • @marsneedstowels
      @marsneedstowels 2 роки тому

      @@badlaamaurukehu At the Federation? I wish this human society was even a neural parasite infected version of the Federation over what we have now.

  • @Qardo
    @Qardo 3 роки тому +63

    "Assuming Control."
    Oh, wait wrong universe.

    • @savagebear4374
      @savagebear4374 3 роки тому +4

      Mass Effect, right?

    • @johnbockelie3899
      @johnbockelie3899 3 роки тому +4

      The Ceti Eel should be discussed next.

    • @Geth7777
      @Geth7777 3 роки тому +4

      Ah yes, "Reapers"!

    • @Ichijoe2112
      @Ichijoe2112 3 роки тому +2

      Against the Solar Federation...

    • @Byilmaz218
      @Byilmaz218 3 роки тому +2

      “Relinquish your form to us.”

  • @sptony2718
    @sptony2718 3 роки тому +42

    The Bluegills were probably my favorite one off enemies on TNG. Unfortunately the plotline about the Bluegill infiltration of the federation was shelved prematurely.

    • @Tuberuser187
      @Tuberuser187 3 роки тому +2

      Might have been because of the exploding scene, the network might have refused to allow the plot to return after that.

    • @johnbockelie3899
      @johnbockelie3899 3 роки тому +2

      The B.B.C banned this episode from their TNG airings.

  • @LoganHunter82
    @LoganHunter82 3 роки тому +43

    So, they are basically Goa' Uld symbiotes

    • @russellharrell2747
      @russellharrell2747 3 роки тому +2

      Um...the blue gills were first

    • @LoganHunter82
      @LoganHunter82 3 роки тому +5

      @@russellharrell2747 You don't say?!?!

    • @davidburton2229
      @davidburton2229 3 роки тому +1

      except the Goa'uld could be removed from the host and still control it (Kawalski) unless you used advanced tech (Skarah)

    • @RRW359
      @RRW359 3 роки тому

      @@davidburton2229 There was still a small part remaining. They beamed Caldwell's out and he was fine afterwards.

    • @stevencorrea8032
      @stevencorrea8032 Рік тому

      It's a parasite

  • @MrBigCookieCrumble
    @MrBigCookieCrumble 3 роки тому +7

    **Eyes flash yellow**
    _Jaffa! Kree!_

  • @nightrunnerxm393
    @nightrunnerxm393 3 роки тому +37

    Always did wanna see more of these critters in Trek...though I suspect we haven't just because of how...messy...things got. Honestly, I think that one remains _the_ most gruesome scene in all of Trek. At least on screen, anyway...

    • @LRMRULES
      @LRMRULES 3 роки тому +4

      Even more than Icheb?

    • @nightrunnerxm393
      @nightrunnerxm393 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah, pretty sure. Remmick got himself skinned and exploded over a room. That's gruesome.
      Icheb was harvested without painkillers. That's grotesque and horrifying, but not gruesome.

    • @chironOwlglass
      @chironOwlglass 3 роки тому +2

      @@LRMRULES Wow, I had no idea Icheb made an appearance in Picard! Haven't bothered to watch it yet.

    • @stevenwilliams1805
      @stevenwilliams1805 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah, I remember my dad having a problem letting us kids watch that episode. Looking at it now, it seems kind of cheesey but, at the time, it was pretty gruesome.

    • @danielrobinson2861
      @danielrobinson2861 3 роки тому +1

      @@chironOwlglass Dont waste your time

  • @johnnycakeg
    @johnnycakeg 3 роки тому +19

    Just the kind of October/Halloween content I was looking for- the creepy brain parasite guys from "Conspiracy" :)

  • @pberrigan19
    @pberrigan19 3 роки тому +5

    I remember seeing the episode that introduced them and that it had a "viewer discretion advisory ". At the time I thought that was weird for TNG, but also knew that meant it was going to be awesome lol.

  • @4thdoctor284
    @4thdoctor284 3 роки тому +3

    THANK YOU! It's a rare treat to hear CHITEN actually pronounced correctly! Jon Pertwee would be proud of you.

  • @HeadlessChickenTO
    @HeadlessChickenTO 3 роки тому +11

    I just finished this part of STO. I originally thought maybe it was an Centauri ear slug when I first saw it till the mother form showed up. Then i was like "OMG I remember that thing giving me nightmares as a kid...KILL IT WITH!!!" FIRE

  • @masterxak
    @masterxak 3 роки тому +5

    My earliest Star Trek memory is this episode on TV, the parasites scared the Hell out of young me.

  • @ameliashephard2876
    @ameliashephard2876 3 роки тому +12

    I always thought the writers got their inspiration from the Ceti eels featured in TWOK.

    • @Ichijoe2112
      @Ichijoe2112 3 роки тому +2

      Other than not entering thought the ear. It was what it reminded me of too.

    • @jessetaggart5573
      @jessetaggart5573 3 роки тому +2

      Even the model of the creature was almost identical.

    • @Ichijoe2112
      @Ichijoe2112 3 роки тому +1

      @@jessetaggart5573 But that was the Mother, the Ear bugs were just cute little babies..

    • @joegrimes9232
      @joegrimes9232 3 роки тому +2

      I'm pretty sure one of the guys who worked on Alien was also involved in Star Trek TOS and parts of TNG. I forget the fellas name. I think he's got his own croudfunded pilot not too long ago. Could be thier little trademark. Space Command was it? I need to google but its late lol

  • @azraelle6232
    @azraelle6232 3 роки тому +2

    I'll admit: I actually squealed with (horrific) delight when I saw these appear in STO. I was all like, "Oh my god, it's ... it's .... THOSE THINGS!"

  • @OttoStrawanzinger
    @OttoStrawanzinger 3 роки тому +2

    There‘s a fan-made audio play called Starship Excelsior with a whole plot arc of the bluegills being at war with the Borg. In my opinion, really well made and worth a listen. Despite being entirely non-canonical, it also manages to reconcile some of the Borg plot holes in a fairly intelligent way.

    • @andrewriker2192
      @andrewriker2192 3 роки тому +1

      Seconded! As much as Excelsior can’t fit into canon in a few ways, this exploration of the Bluegills is top notch.
      Even when they actually talk to one and we get to humanize them a little. That’s good Trek there.

  • @cormacmacsuibhne2867
    @cormacmacsuibhne2867 3 роки тому +14

    Be interesting if we saw the episode remade with current CGI technology. Imagine seeing that guy get blown up.

    • @Eddie42023
      @Eddie42023 3 роки тому

      as previous comment, NOPE!

    • @Mate397
      @Mate397 3 роки тому +2

      Phasers aren't Michael Bay-inators...

    • @Eddie42023
      @Eddie42023 3 роки тому +2

      @@Mate397 There's more David Lynch and Wes Craven than Michael Bay in that scene.

    • @badlaamaurukehu
      @badlaamaurukehu 3 роки тому +1

      @@Eddie42023 Cronenberg

    • @Eddie42023
      @Eddie42023 3 роки тому +1

      @@badlaamaurukehu YEP! Had to look him up. Saw 'The Fly' in his list. STILL have nightmares 35 years after the fact.

  • @Bailer86
    @Bailer86 3 роки тому +17

    I believe it was in the first season of Enterprise, the crew went camping on an alien planet and I seem to recall Trip encountering a bug that resembled the parasite, but it was a different color

  • @Mate397
    @Mate397 3 роки тому +26

    Leaving their origin a mystery is good, keeps them more interesting and the open ended "conclusion" as a looming threat. For all we know there was as second mother creature in a different quadrant of the galaxy. At least the re-infestation of StarFleet would explain why was Jean-Luc treated like shit in STP.

    • @Ichijoe2112
      @Ichijoe2112 3 роки тому +5

      Implying you can fix stoopid wokeness.

    • @Mate397
      @Mate397 3 роки тому +2

      @@Ichijoe2112 Nah, even as a cover story from CBS it wouldn't work. It would only work if STP had a competent writing team.

    • @robertbogan225
      @robertbogan225 3 роки тому +2

      Its the alternate universe picard that never got his artifical heart. Never became captian and was a general loser.

    • @Mate397
      @Mate397 3 роки тому +2

      @@robertbogan225 If only that was true. Q's little twisted game still on going.

    • @michaelgreenwood3413
      @michaelgreenwood3413 3 роки тому +2

      @@Ichijoe2112 The "stupid Wokeness" you're talking about is literally how Star Trek's been since it started. You alt-righters just don't want to admit that it stands for everything you despise.

  • @TheGuardianofAzarath
    @TheGuardianofAzarath 3 роки тому +6

    So, this is where the inspiration for the Goa’uld/Tok’ra came from.

  • @GrannyGamer1
    @GrannyGamer1 3 роки тому +1

    I appreciate your dry, over the heads of many humor

  • @ThroatSore
    @ThroatSore 3 роки тому +2

    Thank goodness for the puppy. That was getting intense.

  • @worldtraveler930
    @worldtraveler930 3 роки тому +11

    Well I guess that I'll be the kid who Points Out that the "Emperor is Not wearing any clothes"
    Why didn't the transporter just separate Out the critters and why not push out the gills into the airway where it can't be seen!?!!?!!

    • @jeffumbach
      @jeffumbach 3 роки тому +5

      The biofilter thing wasn't established that early in the show, also even later one it only seemed to look for microbes though missed the one that Geordi was harboring for years until it started transforming him in "Identity Crisis."

    • @worldtraveler930
      @worldtraveler930 3 роки тому +6

      @@jeffumbach You will find both Scotty and Bones having discussion about the bio-filter in the original series.

    • @nicocarrero5953
      @nicocarrero5953 3 роки тому +2

      @@worldtraveler930 Maybe it was just so engrained in he host that beaming them out would have killed them?

    • @worldtraveler930
      @worldtraveler930 3 роки тому +3

      @@nicocarrero5953 It Still would have set off an Alarm alerting both the ensign at the controls and the medical staff.

    • @theonewiththeeyeoftruth884
      @theonewiththeeyeoftruth884 3 роки тому +2

      @@worldtraveler930 This episode was not well thought out. An admiral even brought one aboard the Enterprise in a little box.

  • @jasonmerced718
    @jasonmerced718 3 роки тому +24

    Wish ST Picard followed the "Conspiracy" episode instead of... Well, what we got as the alternative. Just saying

    • @kshadehyaena
      @kshadehyaena 3 роки тому +12

      I read a theory about them being back and freaking out when Picard came into the new queen's office.

    • @logicplague
      @logicplague 3 роки тому +10

      "I could have made something of value, but I made this instead."
      - Alex Kurtzman

    • @Ichijoe2112
      @Ichijoe2112 3 роки тому +3

      @@logicplague seems legit...

    • @a.hollins8691
      @a.hollins8691 3 роки тому +4

      Picard could have done a follow up to literally anything else and it would have been better than what we got. Even Crusher's sex ghost.

  • @orionmegastar
    @orionmegastar 3 роки тому +14

    There aren't enough puppies in the world to cleanse that scene from my mind. It’s been nearly 30 years since I first saw that episode and it frightened my so badly that I can't watch that scene at all.

    • @savagebear4374
      @savagebear4374 3 роки тому +1

      Same here, although it is one of my favorite episodes from TNG.

    • @orionmegastar
      @orionmegastar 3 роки тому

      @@savagebear4374 I like the episode, its just that scene I can't watch.

    • @Zoloft77
      @Zoloft77 3 роки тому

      Just imagine that scene as Capt. (Maxwell?) who reacted when playing all the way through The Last of Us Part 2, especially that Abby and Owen humping scene.

    • @DanteLauert
      @DanteLauert 3 роки тому +2

      1990 is 30 years ago. Holy....

    • @michaelgreenwood3413
      @michaelgreenwood3413 3 роки тому

      Well, just play STO and get a New Romulus Flamethrower. Then you can purge them all you want.

  • @cjclifford
    @cjclifford 3 роки тому +6

    Makes one wonder where this storyline would have gone if not for the writer’s strike at the time.

  • @BNuts
    @BNuts 3 роки тому +5

    There's also the starfish-shaped parasites from the TOS era, but they can be countered with UV lights. If you're lucky.

  • @torynnielsen5646
    @torynnielsen5646 3 роки тому

    Star trek online is one of the most complex games I've ever played. Complex in the way that there is SOOOOO much to learn.

  • @jasonulysess3652
    @jasonulysess3652 3 роки тому +39

    Hello UA-cam algorithm. Let me just say this is my favorite "NOPE" episode.

    • @jessicare5331
      @jessicare5331 3 роки тому +5

      This episode is a pile of nope

    • @Eddie42023
      @Eddie42023 3 роки тому +5

      @@jessicare5331 the only pile of nope is Remmick post-phaser.

    • @kenminick
      @kenminick 3 роки тому +1

      So I'm guessing "Don't Recommend Channel" is too hard?

    • @jessicare5331
      @jessicare5331 3 роки тому +3

      @@Eddie42023 the bug eating and bugs crawling out of the mouth was a bit much for me tge first few viewings. Now I snicker at the effects.
      Remmick is still gross.

  • @josephmassaro
    @josephmassaro 3 роки тому +2

    I always liked the idea behind these creatures. Completely alien in design and size, but a legitimate threat. This was one of a handful of episodes banned in other countries. This one for the very graphic head explosion.

  • @Gauldame
    @Gauldame 3 роки тому +4

    Dear God these things terrified me as a little kid when I first saw them.

  • @TheRealKaiProton
    @TheRealKaiProton 3 роки тому +4

    I loved that conspiracy episode, very scary, it could of made a brilliant TNG movie, have all the cast running around on bogus missions like a murder mystery to find out they were being manipulated,

  • @MagicalMaster
    @MagicalMaster 3 роки тому +3

    I had thought that episode was a weird dream. Anyways, I agree, no origin needed. Sometimes you just run into something really messed up. It makes any fictional world seem bigger.

  • @AJFisherDesign
    @AJFisherDesign Рік тому +1

    Walker Keel tells Picard not to trust anyone when they talk via subspace. That’s what Beverly says in the Picard season 3 trailer. Another character in the trailer says something like: “Is anyone you know, still them?” implying long-time friends might be taken over or impersonated. Vadic also says we will have “vengeance” which might be understandable considering Riker & Picard phasered the Mother Creature.

  • @boss-anova
    @boss-anova 3 роки тому +4

    I always assumed the neuro-parasite required high amounts of protien to form stronger neural connections and grubs or insects were just an efficient protien suppliment.

    • @ozrob76
      @ozrob76 7 місяців тому

      "Eat za bugs!"

  • @Spacegoat92
    @Spacegoat92 3 роки тому +1

    I would've loved to have seen these mentioned again in Voyager...

  • @xsailor85
    @xsailor85 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the picture of a puppy

  • @davidjones3165
    @davidjones3165 2 роки тому +1

    I like how they handled them in the books. An offshoot of an ancient Trill colony when they tried to increase symbiote numbers.

  • @Eddie42023
    @Eddie42023 3 роки тому +2

    'Here's a picture of a puppy...' Thanks, that was needed... of course, Jordi in 'The Mind's Eye' needed something like that, too.

    • @nomercyinc6783
      @nomercyinc6783 2 місяці тому

      "the minds eye" doesnt exist. just unstable people coping

  • @giladpellaeon1691
    @giladpellaeon1691 3 роки тому +1

    This episode stuck in my memory forever, maybe because I was 8ish years old when seeing it when it first aired.

  • @robblerouser5657
    @robblerouser5657 3 роки тому +14

    I think this episode of TNG was banned in some places.

    • @brentmakes
      @brentmakes 3 роки тому +5

      It was definitely banned in my house. My mom almost pulled the plug on us watching TNG after that episode scared me so bad that I couldn't sleep or go in a dark room alone for weeks!!!!!

    • @aaronj_girv
      @aaronj_girv 3 роки тому +7

      Really just because a guy's head exploded, then his chest, and .... Oh

    • @brentmakes
      @brentmakes 3 роки тому +4

      @@aaronj_girv I think a lot of it had to do with my dad telling me that was what earwig bugs did if they got in your ear!!! Sometimes I don't know how my father wasn't brought up on child abuse charges...

    • @MadDragon-lb7qg
      @MadDragon-lb7qg 3 роки тому +1

      It was heavily cut here in the UK as it was shown at 6pm

    • @casbot71
      @casbot71 3 роки тому +1

      In Australia on later screenings they just edited out the bit after Picard and Riker phaser the mother creature. You just see them fire after one climbs in the mouth to go home to mother (dumb move, lead your enemies straight to your base).
      It was to get a G rating for daytime repeats, the sci fi channel on cable just didn't bother to keep the original edit for outside of children's hours.
      But the original screenings were on commerical TV late night, where full frontal nudity and swearing were allowed, even back in the 90's.

  • @RRW359
    @RRW359 3 роки тому +1

    I remember reading that when they were first planning TNG/Phase2 they were planning on just staying on Earth and beaming everywhere without ships.
    Between that and these parasites we almost got Stargate 10 years early.

  • @richardlahan7068
    @richardlahan7068 3 роки тому +2

    I think they were originally going with making this the existential threat to the Federation but that later morphed into the Borg threat.

  • @austindurrant3205
    @austindurrant3205 3 роки тому +2

    You'd think the first trip via transporter(you'd see it) ,the first time you set foot on a ship and immediately set off an intruder alert alarm(should still work if the unknown alien is inside someone)or the first time anyone waved a medical tri- corder anywhere near you and the parasite would be discovered fairly quick. I sometimes thought about the weak ass security systems on starfleet vessels.

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 3 роки тому +2

      It probably had a way to camoflauge itself in the host so it wouldn't be detected. It probably assimilated the host's DNA and a passive scan wouldn't detect it.

    • @definitlynotbenlente7671
      @definitlynotbenlente7671 Рік тому

      And beam it out of there

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the puppy 😄 Stay well out there everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊

  • @mittensfastpaw
    @mittensfastpaw 3 роки тому +1

    Head splodey episode bothered me as a kid. haha

  • @sugarsammy7209
    @sugarsammy7209 3 роки тому +1

    This episode ALWAYS gave me the creeps and was such a strange episode. One of my top favs for TNG

  • @sg39g
    @sg39g 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for the puppy picture.

  • @kensmith2285
    @kensmith2285 3 роки тому +1

    The picture of the puppy to cleanse your brain is what killed me🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jimjamjimjam7700
    @jimjamjimjam7700 3 роки тому

    Excellent video, sir! You have great empathy for your viewers regarding this topic!

  • @dustintacohands1107
    @dustintacohands1107 2 роки тому

    This episode gave me nightmares for weeks as a kid the idea of them terrified me and I never forget them coming out of that dudes body

  • @Svid1701D
    @Svid1701D Рік тому

    The puppy cleans had me lol

  • @retluoc
    @retluoc 3 роки тому +1

    Yes, I wish ST: TNG got back around to them after that signal the mother sent. Data thought it was a homing beacon, but my guess is it was a warning that they were discovered. That could be why we never saw them again, they needed time to re-strategize. They're probably spread out all over, and we weren't important enough to try to re-invade immediately.

  • @nooneinparticular6014
    @nooneinparticular6014 3 роки тому +1

    Shout out to the Star Trek: Excelsior podcast for the Sword of Damocles arc. Really well written arc involving the war between the Blue Gills and the Borg.

  • @joegrimes9232
    @joegrimes9232 3 роки тому

    There was a similar lifeform on The X-Files early seasons. It was essentially thier homage to John Carpenter's Thing. It was a parasitic organism resembled a worm. It attached itself to the host and stimulated aggression and paranoia. Removing it caused death. They discover the only way to remove the parasite was to infect the person with another and the two would essentially neutralise the other. It was a great episode because other than hightened paranoia and funnily enough a swelling on the base of the neck, but there was no way to tell who was affected.

  • @maybetoby
    @maybetoby Рік тому +1

    This was definitely one of the stranger episodes. Not used to body horror like this in Star Trek.

  • @maxwelljarowey2612
    @maxwelljarowey2612 3 роки тому +1

    I read that the episode of TNG the parasite appeared in was banded in many places for body horror that may be a reason way we never saw then again

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 3 роки тому +3

    What is a terrifying possiblity that they never explored was infiltrating some *other Alpha Quadrant power* that wasn't on guard for them and not as difficult a target.
    The Klingons would be a prime candidate. Their long hair would hide the Gill, could you imagine a proud Klingon submitting itself to have the back of his/her neck examined without a direct order from their superior?
    And the enhanced strength would be even more extreme, and useful.
    A Klingon host could use that to easily win duels and move up the chain of command, and just for day to day bitchslaps of other Klingons during social interactions.
    That's a much bigger advantage than in the Federation, where being able to beat the crap out of your fellow officers in single combat is not as advantageous for quick promotion.
    And pretending to be a honour obsessed Klingon is probably simpler, and any questions about unusual behaviour can be answered with that same super bitchslap.
    That would give the Bluegills a great base of operations (especially with cloaked BOP's). But really starting with just a minor race would work.
    But it seems the allure of the Federation just keeps blinding outside invaders.….
    The Borg would have fared a lot better if they had targeted a smaller Alpha Quadrant power first, perhaps one that would not accept a Federation fleet coming onto their territory to help (and may even be far enough away that StarFleet couldn't just mobilise there immediately).
    Assimilate them and suddenly the rest of the Alpha Quadrant is in deep trouble.

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 3 роки тому +1

      I'm sure the Federation told its allies (ie the Klingons) about those parasites. You saw how intense they were over Changling tests, so they probably tested like crazy for the parasites.

  • @jjordan73115
    @jjordan73115 3 роки тому

    I was a kid when i saw this episode. For 2 years, i didn't yawn with and open mouth and slept with only my nose exposed. Lol

  • @p.j.w7564
    @p.j.w7564 3 роки тому +1

    These things used to scare the crap outa me as a kid! 😟. But I'd still liked to have seen more episodes with them in! 👍🏻😎

  • @edwinrosario3849
    @edwinrosario3849 3 роки тому

    Rick, you opened this can of worms with the Hutts, now got to finish it with the Yeerks and Goa'uld, its not a journey you want to miss out on. lol

  • @BYERE
    @BYERE 3 роки тому +1

    I remember being scarred by that head explosion scene when it first aired.... though to be fair, it was just over a week before my 3rd birthday...

  • @sargepent9815
    @sargepent9815 Рік тому

    Probable one of the top episodes of TNG

  • @deadNightwatchman
    @deadNightwatchman 3 роки тому

    Great video! Thanks for the puppy!

  • @robertbrown1141
    @robertbrown1141 3 роки тому +1

    Considering the comment about WHERE they attach, they fact someone doesn't seem to need medical attention after being "infected" or being released seems..... implausible.

  • @mayurgianchandani1184
    @mayurgianchandani1184 3 роки тому +2

    These things freaking creeped me out. First when I watched TNG, and then unknowingly in STO when in delta quadrant arc in episodes dragon's deceit, the final battle and the last episode at the elachi station. I swear I'd mute my computer and just smash the attack button without looking at the screen. These and then the hurq 🤮🤮

  • @r.connor9280
    @r.connor9280 3 роки тому

    The idea that the parasites could be as intelligent as a person but simply lacked a form suitable for their ambitions would just heighten the terror.

  • @ai6894
    @ai6894 3 роки тому +7

    Bluegill parasite: We turn Starfleet personnel and Federation citizens against each other!
    Denevan parasite: Are we a joke to you?!

  • @ironwarmonger
    @ironwarmonger 3 роки тому

    The decision to got with the Borg over the Blue Gill was a very good one. The Stargate Movie and franchise, stole so much, I never realized the Go'uld were riipped off from Star Trek until now.

  • @QuintMarvel
    @QuintMarvel 2 роки тому

    I like the idea that they're some kind of offshoot of the Trill. Maybe their goal is to terraform a new colony world where they can survive.

  • @phred196
    @phred196 3 роки тому +1

    These critters were going to be the Borg. However, they required a lot of CGI and effects. Also the size was not adequately menacing. But more importantly, the writers strike torpedoed the whole thing. So in season 2, they were reimagined into "The Borg". Personally, I think it was a good choice.

  • @BennyLlama39
    @BennyLlama39 3 роки тому +1

    Rick, mentioning the Borg got me thinking... what would happen if Starfleet beamed a bunch of these little buggers onto a Borg ship, then ran like hell? 😀

    • @williamcollett2216
      @williamcollett2216 3 роки тому +2

      Lots of confusion...
      But if the borg assimilated the little creeps 😬 the federation would be in trouble if the borg gained a better understanding of subterfuge

    • @DeaconBlues117
      @DeaconBlues117 3 роки тому +2

      Assimilated bluegills, capable of not only taking over other beings but then making them part of the Collective. Think of them as a massive number of very, very tiny cubes. It's similar to the reason the Foundation doesn't try nuking SCP-682 - if it survived, it would thereafter be immune to thermonuclear explosions, and therefore probably to the acid bath that's currently the only method of containment.

  • @davidalangay1186
    @davidalangay1186 3 місяці тому

    I like Star Trek Online's take on them as a tool of the Iconians.

  • @dongadson1099
    @dongadson1099 3 роки тому +1

    The Iconian equivalent of the Dominion's Jem'Hadar(genetically engineered). These things are scarier than those parasites from the TOS era episode - Operation: Annihilate...the same ones that were used as an invasive force for the Na'kuhl and Sphere Builders.

  • @ShadeMeadows
    @ShadeMeadows 2 роки тому +1

    We need more of 'em

  • @wolfpax22
    @wolfpax22 Рік тому

    These things were meant to be a recurring adversary. Probably meant for the role the Borg eventually filled. I imagine this episode ending up a little more macabre than most Trek fare may have influenced that. The brutal end of the infected Remmick was actually censored in some countries.

  • @4eversquidsisters266
    @4eversquidsisters266 2 роки тому

    “Here’s a pic of a puppy to cleanse your brain.”
    Alright, subscribed.

  • @pjlusk7774
    @pjlusk7774 3 роки тому

    Glad they went with the Borg, honestly. The bluegill creature effects look goofy as all hell, particularly on a late 80s TV budget

  • @kabobawsome
    @kabobawsome 7 місяців тому

    One thing some of these videos always reveal to me is how... overboard STO takes the Iconian plot sometimes, trying to tie everything mysterious and unknown into the Iconians removes the mystery.

  • @JANEMBA9000
    @JANEMBA9000 3 роки тому +3

    Would love to see these return in Discovery or in a new Movie

    • @Ichijoe2112
      @Ichijoe2112 3 роки тому +2

      Just think the Crew would only be less retarded than they are, and everyone suddenly become more likeable?

  • @MarcioHuser
    @MarcioHuser 3 роки тому +3

    Never considered how similar the parasite is to the Goa'uld 😅

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 3 роки тому

      An alien organism taking over a human host is an old sci-fi trope.

    • @MarcioHuser
      @MarcioHuser 3 роки тому

      @@Paulafan5 yep

  • @emmiannon1266
    @emmiannon1266 2 місяці тому

    I would love an explanation being that their species was assimilated by the borg before they could continue their plans against the federation, Giving an in universe mirror to their behind the scenes dissapearence

  • @peterdanior4538
    @peterdanior4538 3 роки тому +4

    I like the idea of blue gills being related to Trills as distant evolutionary cousins. I also always thought they were related to the Ceti Eels seen in Wraith of Khan, main difference being those used the ear as an entrance & exit as opposed to the mouth.

    • @DeaconBlues117
      @DeaconBlues117 3 роки тому +1

      Well, also the Ceti eels weren't taking anyone over; the increased susceptibility to suggestion was an unintended side-effect of the fact that they liked snuggling up to the host's brain, damaging the forebrain.

    • @enisra_bowman
      @enisra_bowman 3 роки тому +1

      i wouldn't be far flung off to imagine that the Iconians Capture Joined Trill or Symbionts and engineer the Bluegill out of them

    • @peterdanior4538
      @peterdanior4538 3 роки тому

      @@enisra_bowman I do like the idea of combining the two origins

  • @adamofgrayskull7735
    @adamofgrayskull7735 3 роки тому

    Best episode of season one and my personal favourite

  • @saffyalcremie
    @saffyalcremie 3 роки тому

    I really appreciate the puppy 💕

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc 3 роки тому +1

    I preferred them to be a mystery. It was a way of showing the universe was bigger and stranger than we know.

  • @marccolten9801
    @marccolten9801 3 роки тому +1

    When u saw the title I thought it was going to be the bat like creatures from ST:TOS

  • @Stormx2233
    @Stormx2233 3 роки тому +1

    I always thought they were the same kind of species as the little bugs Khan used.

  • @natsucadogan
    @natsucadogan 3 роки тому

    Remind me why I’m watching this at 2:30 in the morning?

  • @Harbinger4Freedom
    @Harbinger4Freedom 3 роки тому

    Great content, keep it coming plz❤️✌️

  • @Marconius6
    @Marconius6 3 роки тому +2

    Ah, it's a Goa''uld then. Right down to the "go through the back of the throat" thing.

    • @Ichijoe2112
      @Ichijoe2112 3 роки тому

      I thought they lived in your abdomen? At least if we go by TV continuity.

    • @Marconius6
      @Marconius6 3 роки тому +1

      @@Ichijoe2112 No, that's just Jaffa, they carry infant Goa'uld.

  • @Elliandr
    @Elliandr 3 роки тому +1

    I still think the Yeerk from the Animorph series was the better brain parasite. Would love to see their lore explored.

  • @ZeeZeeBun
    @ZeeZeeBun 3 роки тому

    Those things still creep me out....