Making A Case For Being Different

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  • @TonyBananas18
    @TonyBananas18 3 роки тому +3

    As a former coach/player in the DoubleTightDoubleWing I have definitely seen contrarian schemes equal the playingfield. We were an academic school that couldn't get/keep blue chip talent because they kept failing out (no remedial classes, literally only advanced classes) ... and we were playing in the highest classification when we should have been mid tier at best... YET we were able to hang in there and beat the football factories because it was in our culture to put 11 in the box and out work/tough our opponents. The coaching staff instilled in the players that "we will run 24 Power better than the other team knew how to Eat, Sleep, and Sh*t!"
    One highlight of that era in the program was beating the perennial "football factory" Champs (St Anthony's of long island) at their home field. These guys were literally 17/22 in championships (running the flexbone). A few years ago I ran into their Hall of Fame coach of that team and he shook my hand and said "we hated playing you guys, we could never get a good look in practice, and you guys ate the clock and always kept the game close".
    The issue imo with being too contrarian is you make enemies fast if you aren't winning. People are quick to blame the scheme rather than looking at the overall talent differential. Everyone's gripe with us was that we didn't throw the ball and didn't have the receiver position in our playbook. Constant heckling from the crowd was "you don't play 'real football' you only win because you run that youth football offense"
    That's where I believe coastal carolina gets it right ... they found that balance between their contrarian option schemes and still having the ability to play 'real football' as they can still drop back pass and do other things spread teams do, while still remaining true to their option principles...
    with all that being said at the highschool level with limited practice time you walk a fine line of splitting the baby as I see many "system" (option/wing-t) teams carry a "spread" package for passing downs, and wind up being equally bad at both when they fail to run their system on 1st and 2nd down ... and then wind up throwing an incomplete pass in shotgun on 3rd down.

    • @CoachMac
      @CoachMac  3 роки тому +2

      Winning fixes a lot of things, if you go contrarian and lose you deal with all the negativity unfortunately

  • @rossm.1138
    @rossm.1138 3 роки тому +2

    I have the same conversation with a lot of people about the Service Academies. A lot of people laugh when I say they're good programs... but like you said, at least one of them is always a pretty solid team in any given year for a while now

    • @SuperWagner23
      @SuperWagner23 3 роки тому +1

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      Service Academy's problem stem from height and weight requirements. At Air Force you can be no taller than 6'5" if you want to be a fighter pilot. I mean who is going to AFA and not wanted to be a fighter pilot. The reason for height requirements is the cockpit of Fighter Jets will not accommodate anyone over 6'5".
      At Army, offensive linemen can only weigh 300lbs during the season. Off season they have to cut weight to 265 lbs.

  • @InformalGreeting
    @InformalGreeting 3 роки тому +2

    Here in Oklahoma the largest class has been won by one of two teams for probably 18 of the last 20 years. Certainly is a blue blood situation. We split the top classification for football just to give some other teams an opportunity. Used to be that they were just more talented but that isn’t always the case now. More than anything it appears to just be the winning culture. Would love to find a way to instill that into a program. Would be far better than being able to out scheme teams.

  • @SuperWagner23
    @SuperWagner23 3 роки тому +1

    With the Big 12 being a 3-3-5 dominant defense league, I am surprised no one has lined in the old Colorado 1 back, 2 te, 2 wr offensive thus forcing the SS type player to line up over a tight end who would clearly be able to dominate the SS type player.
    Heck, my HS has been running the split back veer since 1980. Wide splits, predominantly 3 wr. Often a TE player who can split out as a wr or lineup as a te to create a different edge.

    • @CoachMac
      @CoachMac  3 роки тому +1

      You gotta keep in mind nobody has recruited that way. Iowa State is playing with multiple Tight Ends and having success

    • @SuperWagner23
      @SuperWagner23 3 роки тому

      @@CoachMac I think if Wisconsin played in the Big 12 they would cause front issues for the 3-3-5 defense. You just do not see the 3-3-5 defense in the Big Ten. Rich Rodriguez tried when he was at Michigan. They could not stop those teams with dominate offensive lines. It was fun to watch Rich Rods offense tho.

    • @CoachMac
      @CoachMac  3 роки тому

      Everybody said that when they played TCU in the Rose Bowl 8 or so years ago. TCU beat them with Nickel Personnel