After seeing this video makes me respect those guys that's on the back side fightin this fire as the ladder guys are on it as they should help the crew in the back bring this under control in a hurry as everyone working togeather in this helps to get it out great job guys
Thanks for educating me.....very interesting. Gotta be a really tough job. I feel so bad for those that lose their homes and more in these devastating fires.
I'm a fire fighter and everytime I come back from a house fire I sit there and think what the people must be going through. I cant think of anything worse to me then loosing everything you own in a matter of minutes.
i was a volie for 8 years i have also been the victim of 3 fires 1 while i was a kid that got me into firefighting and 2 others as an adult where someone torched my house twice and before i was a volie i was with the red cross disaster unit which went to fires and i can say its horrible dealing with all the loss of proper and life and its something that stays with you forever
So sorry to hear of your past disasters wolvesone but glad you turned it into something positive. All I can say is THANK YOU ALL for your dedication to saving lives & property. Although not all can be saved there are many that are because of your bravery, courage & endurance despite the heartache you must endure. I'm not familiar with the word volie, can you tell me what it is.
A rocking intense structure fire...Great job HFD (#18) getting a quick 360 and getting lines into operations for exposures and fire structure! I don't know what kind of fire load was in the rear of (fire) structure but whatever it was it was rocking? That is one of the challenges for HFD! Houston has absolutely NO property/occupancy zoning control, so firefighters never know what they will encounter even when responding to a bread and butter residential structure fire. Great job HFD! Be Safe!!!
I think some of these were chauffeurs (engineers) pulling lines and getting them in place for the firefighters. This was also in 2016 before the hammer started falling for all firefighter personnel be fully geared up and on air when in IDLH atmospheres (smoke, gases, chemicals, no oxygen, etc.). I know these guys in HFD today they come off apparatus ready to go to work!
Not to laugh, but the moment (8:40) he felt the heat and spun around just before D said "it was ripping over his head" lol - I was wondering how long it was going to be before he felt that
Ah, the armchair jackwagons. I was a photographer for a volly dept. I was INSURED while on fireground if I got hurt or someone else. If I saw something though, I reported it to the nearest officer.....
When was working in the engine house(80'S +90's) we all thought it was "macho" to take off our mask first to "save your air". Black snot, puking soot and just breathing that crap. Well what goes around comes around. I have StageIV colon cancer with metastasis to the abdomen.{I was in top shape 18% body fat lifted weights 3 or 4 days a week, shoot I could stretch my bottle twice as long as my brothers could, all because I was in shape!} Then one day I got severe abdominal pain for no reason[no trauma, did not pull a muscle or sprain/strain anything] All because I was "saving my air" How stupid I was, and now its time to pay the piper... PLEASE wear all your PPE every time you leave the station, my career is over, and now I have to fight for my life...again bc I was "macho"
After seeing several structure fires on the internet, it doesn't seem like water is that effective against large fires. It would be nice if someone could come up with something that would smother the fires faster.
We already do use something like that. Foam. Some departments are more hesitant in using it than others and it's debatable on whether a department that uses it is more progressive than one that doesn't. Kind of a hot topic. At the department I work for we use it routinely and I do consider my department one of the most if not THE most progressive in the nation, but for other reasons than the fact that we use AFFF (aqueous film forming foam). Houston Fire is up there with the best and from what I've gathered (I have friends that work there), it's a nice blend of progression and doing certain things the "old-school" traditional way. Strong work gentlemen!!
I'm not a firefighter but having spent many years in a city and having photographed many as a free lance journalist I can say that I have seen a huge difference in water pressure from one municipality to the next. I have seen dozens of fire trucks pull up from several departments, all hook up to neighborhood hydrants and get plenty enough pressure to make quick work of a fire much bigger than this one. I have also seen a single company deplete the neighborhood's water supply using a single three inch line and take hours to get a much smaller fire under control. I do wish though that when people see their neighbor's house on fire and see the fire fighters hard at work, maybe they could curtail their own water usage until the fire is out. Some cities are set up so that a fire department can divert water by opening and closing valves under the sidewalks but I think most don't have that ability. I have only see foam used a couple of times. Most of the fire departments that I have watched at work either don't have it or seem to avoid using it.
i believe he is if you look when he first gets on scene he is running and putting on turnout gear also note he got a radio from the one nozzle man on the rear of the side D exposure building and was talking to command
In the 1950, when most of you armchair fire instructors wernt born a well known in the fire service chief named Lloyd Layman, was teaching all of the departments in the US, the following. Chief Alan Brunacini of Phoenix modified it a little bit. I goes like this . Size Up, Rescue, Exposures, Confinement, Extinguishment, Ventilation, Salvage and Overhaul. For more years than most of you armchair fire instructors have been alive. These were the concepts taught.Nationally at the National Fire Academy, FDIC, and your State Fire School.You experts need to go back watch some more " Emergency " and red a few more books.
Hell yea...I was a FF in the 70's and 80's. We didn't need science to put fires out. Now it's all about who thinks they're the smartest fireman. I had a FF comment to a post, don't use a fog pattern inside, you'll steam your crew. I used it many a time and never once did we get scorched. God forbid you mention you were a volunteer back before there were full time departments, cause you weren't nothing. littlte blitz 85 LZFD retired.
Anyone that thinks being a SMART firefighter isn't necessary, is an idiot. There also weren't as many plastics in use back in the 70's and 80's, or as many lightweight trusses. Relying on 70's era firefighting tactics will get you KILLED today.
Yep! I am a retired firefighter captain with close to 40 years experience (Fire Instructor 30 years) and you hit the nail on the head with your post!!! I now volunteer with a very busy 6 station department. I get so frustrated with many of today's FF, after a year or two with only a couple structure fires they think they are ready to step-up drive, ride up as officer, etc. It is difficult telling them just how not-ready for these positions! AP, retired firefighter (captain)
Matthew Webb natural gas heating and cooking. It's not all electric stuff and also there should be enough videos for all active personal on the fire ground those that do not have radios often forgot them
Scary brothers, Was the FF in Tower 18 bucket up there with no turn out? HFD is a professional department so there has to be good reason for it...not gonna armchair QB they know what they are doing , it is just scary and NOT WORTH IT. I know what I am talking about, I worked when it was "macho" to use your air only when it got real bad....now I am dealing with cancer, no structure is worth it!...sorry for the soapbox...Stay Safe!
Yea the driver got a little closer than he should have but at the end of the day every guy protects themselves. In Detroit New York Houston it's a whole different environment. I started my career in 91 and we were still riding tailboard and wearing three quarter boots. You were a pussy if you had your air on hahaha. Stupid I know, but looking back on those great days we really learned so much more than guys do now with all the new gear and working in these "mother may I" environments. We thought for ourselves, dug in, relied on our brothers and everyone did there job like clockwork. Man I miss it! Stay safe out there my brothers
Remember Houston is a very hot and humid city. Full PPE gets you overheated quickly. If your outside and away from the structure it's understandable why they aren't in full PPE.
They need to stop using that water they are using and start using RO water. The water they are using is so hard with minerals, that it's not wet enough to put the fire out...... RO water is soft and more wet and will put those fires out much easier...........
After seeing this video makes me respect those guys that's on the back side fightin this fire as the ladder guys are on it as they should help the crew in the back bring this under control in a hurry as everyone working togeather in this helps to get it out great job guys
Thanks for educating me.....very interesting. Gotta be a really tough job. I feel so bad for those that lose their homes and more in these devastating fires.
I'm a fire fighter and everytime I come back from a house fire I sit there and think what the people must be going through. I cant think of anything worse to me then loosing everything you own in a matter of minutes.
i was a volie for 8 years i have also been the victim of 3 fires 1 while i was a kid that got me into firefighting and 2 others as an adult where someone torched my house twice and before i was a volie i was with the red cross disaster unit which went to fires and i can say its horrible dealing with all the loss of proper and life and its something that stays with you forever
So sorry to hear of your past disasters wolvesone but glad you turned it into something positive. All I can say is THANK YOU ALL for your dedication to saving lives & property. Although not all can be saved there are many that are because of your bravery, courage & endurance despite the heartache you must endure. I'm not familiar with the word volie, can you tell me what it is.
volie is just a short term used for volunteer firefighters and thanks
@@jeremeytaylor2433 well said brother
A rocking intense structure fire...Great job HFD (#18) getting a quick 360 and getting lines into operations for exposures and fire structure! I don't know what kind of fire load was in the rear of (fire) structure but whatever it was it was rocking? That is one of the challenges for HFD! Houston has absolutely NO property/occupancy zoning control, so firefighters never know what they will encounter even when responding to a bread and butter residential structure fire. Great job HFD! Be Safe!!!
That aerial master stream was doing a lot of good work. Interesting how many firefighters weren't wearing full PPE.
I think some of these were chauffeurs (engineers) pulling lines and getting them in place for the firefighters. This was also in 2016 before the hammer started falling for all firefighter personnel be fully geared up and on air when in IDLH atmospheres (smoke, gases, chemicals, no oxygen, etc.). I know these guys in HFD today they come off apparatus ready to go to work!
A Superb video coverage. Stay Safe!
Not to laugh, but the moment (8:40) he felt the heat and spun around just before D said "it was ripping over his head" lol - I was wondering how long it was going to be before he felt that
Wow much respect. During intense part of fire, they didn’t back down.
Phew! I take my hat off to these guys. Ammo, propane tanks. That's some scary stuff they come into
Ah, the armchair jackwagons. I was a photographer for a volly dept. I was INSURED while on fireground if I got hurt or someone else. If I saw something though, I reported it to the nearest officer.....
And you STILL weren't a firefighter... so you're not much more than a jackwagon youself...
keep up the good work
why did no one got a Helmet a SCBA or even a Uniform?
Intense fire. First vid I've seen where they actually moved fast and got water on it!
Seriously? First HFD video? They are extremely quick getting water on the fires
Man... that fire got hot fast!!
they had there hands full alot going on, they did there best
Lots of knowledgeable people posting here. I think I'll read the comments and see what I can learn.
Wow. Don't hear that often. Great job Linzie
1:16 looks like the dudes jacket is on fire haha.
The wind looks like it's terrible
That's what you call a "target rich environment".
Dude, where's all your firefighting equipment?
How many buildings were lost??
Just one Steph. They got they're asses kicked protecting the D exposure but got it done!
Holy schnigees that was a bad ass fire damn !
You ain't kidding there!
How much heat are the firefighters outfits able to withstand?
michael mixon if I remember correctly it 2000* or 2500 degrees before the actual material catches fire
Thank you!
www.firerescue1.com/fire-products/Personal-protective-equipment-ppe/articles/960672-Thermal-exposures-and-assessing-heat-damage-to-protective-clothing/
michael mixon 1700 degrees is when it starts to fail
michael mixon 1,000
who are the guys running around with no gear? Are they fire marshals/arson dudes or just off duty guys helping....confused
Rg 757 im thinking either off duty or fire marshalls.
doesnt matter who they are, if youre on the fire ground with actie fire you need gear period
I agree 100%
When was working in the engine house(80'S +90's) we all thought it was "macho" to take off our mask first to "save your air". Black snot, puking soot and just breathing that crap. Well what goes around comes around. I have StageIV colon cancer with metastasis to the abdomen.{I was in top shape 18% body fat lifted weights 3 or 4 days a week, shoot I could stretch my bottle twice as long as my brothers could, all because I was in shape!} Then one day I got severe abdominal pain for no reason[no trauma, did not pull a muscle or sprain/strain anything] All because I was "saving my air" How stupid I was, and now its time to pay the piper... PLEASE wear all your PPE every time you leave the station, my career is over, and now I have to fight for my life...again bc I was "macho"
@@binky8501 bullshit. Maybe in your lil town but in the big city every guy protects himself and you don't worry about what other guys are doing
Those are real fireman there boys
After seeing several structure fires on the internet, it doesn't seem like water is that effective against large fires. It would be nice if someone could come up with something that would smother the fires faster.
We already do use something like that. Foam. Some departments are more hesitant in using it than others and it's debatable on whether a department that uses it is more progressive than one that doesn't. Kind of a hot topic. At the department I work for we use it routinely and I do consider my department one of the most if not THE most progressive in the nation, but for other reasons than the fact that we use AFFF (aqueous film forming foam). Houston Fire is up there with the best and from what I've gathered (I have friends that work there), it's a nice blend of progression and doing certain things the "old-school" traditional way. Strong work gentlemen!!
I'm not a firefighter but having spent many years in a city and having photographed many as a free lance journalist I can say that I have seen a huge difference in water pressure from one municipality to the next. I have seen dozens of fire trucks pull up from several departments, all hook up to neighborhood hydrants and get plenty enough pressure to make quick work of a fire much bigger than this one. I have also seen a single company deplete the neighborhood's water supply using a single three inch line and take hours to get a much smaller fire under control. I do wish though that when people see their neighbor's house on fire and see the fire fighters hard at work, maybe they could curtail their own water usage until the fire is out. Some cities are set up so that a fire department can divert water by opening and closing valves under the sidewalks but I think most don't have that ability.
I have only see foam used a couple of times. Most of the fire departments that I have watched at work either don't have it or seem to avoid using it.
Did a member of the department take this video?
i believe he is if you look when he first gets on scene he is running and putting on turnout gear also note he got a radio from the one nozzle man on the rear of the side D exposure building and was talking to command
I noticed that the radio's battery was almost dead. Chirp chirp after TX. Not the best place to have a dead radio.
In the 1950, when most of you armchair fire instructors wernt born a well known in the fire service chief named Lloyd Layman, was teaching all of the departments in the US, the following. Chief Alan Brunacini of Phoenix modified it a little bit. I goes like this . Size Up, Rescue, Exposures, Confinement, Extinguishment, Ventilation, Salvage and Overhaul. For more years than most of you armchair fire instructors have been alive. These were the concepts taught.Nationally at the National Fire Academy, FDIC, and your State Fire School.You experts need to go back watch some more " Emergency " and red a few more books.
Hell yea...I was a FF in the 70's and 80's. We didn't need science to put fires out. Now it's all about who thinks they're the smartest fireman. I had a FF comment to a post, don't use a fog pattern inside, you'll steam your crew. I used it many a time and never once did we get scorched. God forbid you mention you were a volunteer back before there were full time departments, cause you weren't nothing. littlte blitz 85 LZFD retired.
Radner Bearman Lloyd Lamen was a fire fighter where I am from. He also invented the combination fog nozzle.
Anyone that thinks being a SMART firefighter isn't necessary, is an idiot. There also weren't as many plastics in use back in the 70's and 80's, or as many lightweight trusses. Relying on 70's era firefighting tactics will get you KILLED today.
Yep! I am a retired firefighter captain with close to 40 years experience (Fire Instructor 30 years) and you hit the nail on the head with your post!!! I now volunteer with a very busy 6 station department. I get so frustrated with many of today's FF, after a year or two with only a couple structure fires they think they are ready to step-up drive, ride up as officer, etc. It is difficult telling them just how not-ready for these positions! AP, retired firefighter (captain)
hey give me your radio wouldnt they all have there own radios and why would you have propane tanks in your house
Matthew Webb natural gas heating and cooking. It's not all electric stuff and also there should be enough videos for all active personal on the fire ground those that do not have radios often forgot them
Scary brothers, Was the FF in Tower 18 bucket up there with no turn out? HFD is a professional department so there has to be good reason for it...not gonna armchair QB they know what they are doing , it is just scary and NOT WORTH IT. I know what I am talking about, I worked when it was "macho" to use your air only when it got real bad....now I am dealing with cancer, no structure is worth it!...sorry for the soapbox...Stay Safe!
I was confused too, lots of dudes running around on hoselines without PPE
Yea the driver got a little closer than he should have but at the end of the day every guy protects themselves. In Detroit New York Houston it's a whole different environment. I started my career in 91 and we were still riding tailboard and wearing three quarter boots. You were a pussy if you had your air on hahaha. Stupid I know, but looking back on those great days we really learned so much more than guys do now with all the new gear and working in these "mother may I" environments. We thought for ourselves, dug in, relied on our brothers and everyone did there job like clockwork. Man I miss it! Stay safe out there my brothers
Remember Houston is a very hot and humid city. Full PPE gets you overheated quickly. If your outside and away from the structure it's understandable why they aren't in full PPE.
Does anybody use foam??
Darren, sometimes. But foam is expensive, and impractical on many large fires.
Even more
What?
H.F.D. ENGINE 84 & TRUCK 84 & RESCUE 84 & SQUAD 84 & BATTALI0N 3 & E.M.S. 2
I would pull everyone out and go defensive mode
i think they did i heard some alarms going off followed by horn blasts which on my dept meant everyone out defensive attacks only
waw now that was vicious
what state is this fire dept located, i'm sure this is not the houston texas dept
edward mcclendon it's Houston Texas
Houston is in Nova Scotia just across the street from Portland Oregon.
I know this is old news now but this was definitely in Houston TX.
Yep. Houston Engine & Truck 18
ផ្ទះនៅអាមេរិកពេលឆេះពិបាកពន្លត់ បាញ់ទឹកចំហើយមិនរលត់ទៀត ដូចមានជាតិជ័រ និងប្រេង បានពិបាកចឹង
They need to stop using that water they are using and start using RO water. The water they are using is so hard with minerals, that it's not wet enough to put the fire out...... RO water is soft and more wet and will put those fires out much easier...........
i was a fire man in mi our chief demanded us to be dressed an ready all over the country i see fire dept people not in gear shocking
Paul Ellis the Photographer in Detroit?
itu masih kecil apinya
Need an airport crash truck
No. Just NO.