Being in the building industry and now retired in Australia I have installed hundreds of metal roofing and we all install the screws in the top part of the sheeting the (RIB) NEVER IN THE FLAT PART OF THE SHEETING.
I’m not as worried about UV rays damaging the washer as much as the metal does when the screw goes through. Look at the hole in the metal when you take a screw out, there is a little piece of metal (a burr) if you will that happens when starting the screw that just ruins the washer. I don’t do this for a living. I have just built several buildings on my property, and friends. I’m also the anal guy that just has to figure out why something fails. Especially when I am paying the bill. It may take me longer to do an exposed screw roof or wall , because first drill the metal, second De burr the hole Then put my screw in. my 30x30 building is going on 25 years and not one leak . I clean all my buildings roofs every year with a hotsie /low pressure. We also clean the gutters 3 /4 times(during fall leaf shedding) . My grandfather taught me to do the job right the first time, and to take care of your equipment. It costs more to Redo EVERYTHING and it also costs to much to replace/repair due to lack of maintenance.
10-4 We bought a metal roofed home in Nawth Florida and now I'm replacing the screws with larger diameter ones, IF I ever have to replace the roof I will go with the raised beam commercial type with NO exposed fasteners
That's a great idea & all ...but you're only offering a #10 @ 1.5" in length that I can see on your website. What about in a #12 @ 2" or whatever for those needing longer / larger fasteners?
One problem with the fully enclosed heads is the following. The partially enclosed washers allows you to check for undertightened screws by attempting to rotate the metal washer by hand. If you can rotate it, it is too loose. I don't see a way to do that with the fully enclosed heads. It seems there are pros and cons to everything. I also found the partially enclosed screws at a much lower cost for what I believe is a comparable quality screw assembly.
The washers aren't sold individually apart from the screw, we do offer a #14 replacement fastener though. www.truemetalsupply.com/product-page/14-ultimate-oversized-metal-to-wood-fastener-1-5
In America the panel manufactures say to install the screws in the flats 99% of the time, only 1% do they say you can install the screws on the ribs, 5V roofs are the only exception the screws are installed on the V. If you install the screws on the ribs the warranty will be void here.
We recommend installing fasteners in the flat next to the rib. We have another video explaining that reasoning. But it doesn't void any warranties from us if you choose to install it on the rib.
For on, I would never install a exspode fastener roof on a house only snap lock. Those roofs are fine for a shed or barn. I don't care how well you put in a gromented screw, they fail in about 10 years.
We recommend installing fasteners in the flat next to the rib. We have another video explaining that reasoning. At the end of the day it doesn't void your warranty if you choose to install in the rib. It's installer preference.
Being in the building industry and now retired in Australia I have installed hundreds of metal roofing and we all install the screws in the top part of the sheeting the (RIB) NEVER IN THE FLAT PART OF THE SHEETING.
This is just for the purpose of demonstration, mate
(American manufacturers get it all wrong - check out their install manuals...)
@@kevin-delacroix - you didn't watch to the end, USA manufacturers of these products advise the wrong use cases...
Almost every American roofer installs screws in the flat part. Its really weird.
Suffering from the leaks of this type install right now.
I’m not as worried about UV rays damaging the washer as much as the metal does when the screw goes through.
Look at the hole in the metal when you take a screw out, there is a little piece of metal (a burr) if you will that happens when starting the screw that just ruins the washer.
I don’t do this for a living. I have just built several buildings on my property, and friends.
I’m also the anal guy that just has to figure out why something fails. Especially when I am paying the bill.
It may take me longer to do an exposed screw roof or wall , because first drill the metal, second De burr the hole Then put my screw in.
my 30x30 building is going on 25 years and not one leak . I clean all my buildings roofs every year with a hotsie /low pressure. We also clean the gutters 3 /4 times(during fall leaf shedding) . My grandfather taught me to do the job right the first time, and to take care of your equipment. It costs more to Redo EVERYTHING and it also costs to much to replace/repair due to lack of maintenance.
10-4 We bought a metal roofed home in Nawth Florida and now I'm replacing the screws with larger diameter ones, IF I ever have to replace the roof I will go with the raised beam commercial type with NO exposed fasteners
That's a great idea & all ...but you're only offering a #10 @ 1.5" in length that I can see on your website. What about in a #12 @ 2" or whatever for those needing longer / larger fasteners?
We offer a #14 oversize version of this fastener www.truemetalsupply.com/product-page/14-ultimate-oversized-metal-to-wood-fastener-1-5
SO, does the Wood Ultimate Fastener come in LARGER diameters to replace those original ones that won't tighten?
Yes it does! www.truemetalsupply.com/product-page/14-ultimate-oversized-metal-to-wood-fastener-1-5
One problem with the fully enclosed heads is the following. The partially enclosed washers allows you to check for undertightened screws by attempting to rotate the metal washer by hand. If you can rotate it, it is too loose. I don't see a way to do that with the fully enclosed heads.
It seems there are pros and cons to everything. I also found the partially enclosed screws at a much lower cost for what I believe is a comparable quality screw assembly.
2:13 How can I get those REPLACEMENT washers???
The washers aren't sold individually apart from the screw, we do offer a #14 replacement fastener though. www.truemetalsupply.com/product-page/14-ultimate-oversized-metal-to-wood-fastener-1-5
In America the panel manufactures say to install the screws in the flats 99% of the time, only 1% do they say you can install the screws on the ribs, 5V roofs are the only exception the screws are installed on the V. If you install the screws on the ribs the warranty will be void here.
We recommend installing fasteners in the flat next to the rib. We have another video explaining that reasoning. But it doesn't void any warranties from us if you choose to install it on the rib.
Cool vid, great screws thanks.
But how long does the gasket last?
What about on corregated?
The #14 screws DON'T use the thicker washer, WHERE can you purchase those thicker washers??
The multi-seal washer is only available with the #10 Ultimate right now. The #14 Ultimate still has the fully enveloping head.
This is the type of screws that should be used for an exposed fastener system.
Agreed!
Do these come in stainless?
Yes!
Uh, what is a neoprene treated epdm washer? There is NO such thing. They are 2 different rubbers
Play with sticks or steel pick a medium
I only see 14 colors
For on, I would never install a exspode fastener roof on a house only snap lock. Those roofs are fine for a shed or barn. I don't care how well you put in a gromented screw, they fail in about 10 years.
dont be lazy change them every 5 to 6 years forever cheaper then getting shingles every 15 years
@@corey7348 save money and use snap lock no exposed fasteners. Last for over 50 yers. Metal is mixed with zinc and aluminum, never rust.
you act like a bag of 500 roof screws isnt 25 bucks lol. ill save way more then i ever would any other method
@@corey7348 Ya sure. And you will pay way more then 25$ for screws. Not to mention time. Don't be so cheap when it comes to a quality roof system.
Change ALL screws 5 to 6 years??? With bigger / larger diameter??@@corey7348
I inherited a metal roof project,how can i find out the supplier of my parts because some of them have been damaged
Without purchasing documents that may be difficult!
Why are you demonstrating roofing screwed down on the pans - an obvious faile - the ridges are present for a reason. Think, run off control lol...
Old people know that you are right.
We recommend installing fasteners in the flat next to the rib. We have another video explaining that reasoning. At the end of the day it doesn't void your warranty if you choose to install in the rib. It's installer preference.
Why in the world are you drilling into the valley of the sheet metal????? That's why metal roofs leak after a few years FFS...
USA - hurrah...
Wrong
Only the old people know what is important. It is not just making money.
Companies Has Not Brain,
Let Me Make A Better Screw
For You And Put My Name In
There.
Amén.
Very poetic.
Garbage
Hurtful.