What is a Shack in a Box Radio? FT991A,IC7100, Ft818 AND IC705
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2021
- In this video I discus shack in the box radios that are still available new to purchase. I talk about why I like them and what I like to use them for basically a rag chew. This will be followed up with a Livestream later with TheSmokinApe and myself.
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0:20 "...aimed at the entry level Ham radio people..." Got my Amateur Radio license more than 45 years ago. My brand new FT-991A should be delivered on Thursday. 🙂
Seems like a great choice tho..
Powering portable radios for POTA and SOTA is a major consideration. There is a YT vid that shows the FT-991A pulling 1.6Ah in receive only, and some of the competitors are less than 1Ah.
Add to that the temptation to use up to 100W, or even forgetting to lower the power when you don't need it and you find your battery is depleted in half the time... or you are carrying a battery twice the size/weight or more or adding a solar panel in order to compensate.
For home use the FT991A is a convenient small package (that is less intrusive from Wife's perspective), packing a punch and a great all-rounder... Not had mine long but I'm loving it.
Icom needs to take the 705 idea (the display/menus), and make it a mobile 100w all-mode/all-band like the 7100.
As a guy who isn’t the most serious about a full time hobby, but I have a tower on my property and also wanna take something to my cabin and throw a wire out or yap at some buddies across the county on vhf/uhf or my neighbors tractor on cb. A 100w 705 would be exactly what I want.
@@shockashoota I really want something like an updated 7000 // 7100 // 706mk2g. Its a market that seems to be somewhat empty.
the 7300 is just a bit too big to fit in a vehicle dashboard environment, let alone the fact it doesn't do VHF. I want something that I can use in mobile, but take out and use on a desk. Icom really needs to bring back the "shack in a box" -- with today's modern chips and software it shouldn't be hard nor that expensive. Yaesu has the FT-991a, but I've always been more of an Icom guy.
It’s really refreshing to watch an unbiased and opened minded video regarding radios. My shack-in-the-box is my IC-705 for it’s simplicity and my current portable needs and I use it wirelessly with my Surface Pro 5. (Think OH8STN for my operating style). I also like the fact that it has self-contained power without the need to drag along an external battery, unless it’s a lightweight unit like PowerFilm’s Light Saver Max. It’s true that the sacrifice in this setup is the lack of transmitting power compared to a 100W radio, but more powerful radios will demand more from an external power source. There are portable amps that will work with the IC-705, which are both lightweight and conservative on power consumption, and I will likely pick one of these devices up in the near future for a well rounded portable setup.
I chuckled at your comments at 8:00 - 8:15 regarding the IC-9700. I have both the IC-7300 and the IC-9700 and you are correct that they look good together and make for a great shack setup. However, I wouldn’t really say that I have money to burn. 😉 Some people may read this and think that I am an ICOM fanboy, and that may be true in regard to base radios because the ICOM line appeals more to me. My mobile and HT radios are Yaesu because their line of radios for these purposes shines over ICOM in my opinion. In the end, I’m just having fun with the hobby and you earned a new subscriber.
Great video as always. Glad there are people like you creating content like this 😎
Thanks Rick, Maybe some of these type radios can help you guys in the battle!
Bill-N6EF-I used my FT-857D as my main shack radio for many years. I worked a lot of contest contacts with the '857. It's now my portable radio setup in a Harbor Freight case I use for POTA. I now have the IC-7300 as my main shack radio. Making a box for it for Field Day.
Good and honest video! I own both ICOM HT radios and Yaesu. I have 2 older ICF21 HT units that I bought almost 20 years ago and still operate like brand new and never had any issues. When it came time for choosing a base station radio, I went back and forth between ICOM and Yaesu and I just couldn't resist what the FT991A had to offer and the winner for me was Yaesu. Been very happy with it.
Thanks,
Thanks for the video Chuck. Awesome info.
You're hitting the point! I've been always surprised how little people care about VHF SSB/CW operation. I've always been into shack-in-the-box solutions like you, exactly because of the same -- lack of 2m/70cm allmode rigs. They all are very old veterans, such as FT-290, etc. Nothing modern on the market, so one needs to go for an allbander due to that. I've started with portable FT-818 (for me a portable means mostly hiking), then FT-991A for shack or car-portable and VHF contesting (in Europe, we have quite plenty VHF contest activity), now I moved to IC-705 and for shack, I've added IC-7300 thinking of selling FT-991A, but I simply can't, I'd miss it! :-)
Twins would be still too expensive, since IC-9700 is 1.5 times more than FT-991A. FT-991A is nice and versatile, however, I see the big difference between waterfall capabilities of IC-7300 and FT-991A, way much better on the Icom.
Well said Chuck!
Thanks Josh!
Love the honesty, and I agree when you say “for my money” it comes down to your situation and what you are going to use the rig for.
I like the 991A for the all around use, especially for my first HF rig, also I need to be able to take the rig between two locations so it fits my situation. Very nice video
Thank you for the nice comment, I have the 991A and it's a great radio and I think you would be happy with it, does a lot in small package.
Great video and information. Thank you
Taz907, thak you for the nice comment!
Excellent summary and discussion. Honestly, you can't go wrong with either radio. I chose the 991 but honestly don't think I would have any issues if I had bought the 7100. It was just how I wanted to spend my money to best fit my needs.
Great information man!
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Also FT-818 for the win!
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Very good video waiting for my FT991a to come in.
Wes I'm sure you will really like the 991A , thanks for comment and watching.
I’ve got the yaesu ft 450D and the 991A, love both of them radios, wished I had known about the 991A before getting the 450D, but I’ve managed to figure out how to run both radios on one hf antenna while using the uhf/vhf hooked to a Diamond x50, love the video, thumbs up 👍🏼
Never had a FT450 but know it was a great radio and used to recommend to new hams until they discontinued it. I love the FT991A , I think it's one of the best buys in Radios for the money, 130 more than a 7300 and offers so much more versatility. But that's if you are into 2m and 70cm SSB.
I bought the FT-991A because I wanted a shack in the box . The 2 meter in Seattle area is busy. I just wish it had a better waterfall.
The reason people say that shack in the box radios aren’t as good, is because when you compare them to HF only radios the receiver isn’t as good on the all band rigs. I’ve seen a video that proved it. Both radios on the same antenna the HF only radios either heard what the FT991A didn’t or the 991A didn’t hear it as good.
I think you're convincing me with the 991a. I never really thought about SSB on FM before. Cheers Chuck!🍻👍🤓
A great topic, I wish there was a Mobile Shack in a box that has SSB 12M through 2M. I have no use for the lower bands mobile.
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There is it’s the icom ic-7100. He mentions it multiple times. You get all the bands
what a jip man, all this talk and not a single glory shot of the radios.
Hello Chuck, I'm a new ham and it's frustrating to not see any new 2M SSB standalone radios that are portable. 2M FM and sideband is an area of great interest to me, but the radio selection is limited as you've said. I've looked at/for a 857D but people have Ferrari prices on them and most need repairs. I know the 857D is technically a shack in the box but I really like the small form factor for portable use for 2M sideband. I do really like the 991A, which is what I will more than likely purchase as my radio fund builds. (Our central A/C and heat died 2 weeks ago, so there went my radio fund plus more. Along with my daily drivers engine locking up, so no rigs for me anytime soon) I digress, It would be nice to have a IC7610 or a FTDX101D along with a IC9700 but for me the 991A fits the bill for lots of areas. Great video and thanks for making all the other videos, looking forward to more. 73's Mike W5SKK
BTW, anyone that has a spare 857D, I would be a willing recipient of a donation. 😁
Cool Video..Ii have ben into radios for 35 years but just recently became a ham & Fell for the Yaesu Ft-991 The first time i ever laid eyes on it i Knew that is what i wanted & ended up buying as my first Really good radio !(i had a fuw hf radios back n the day b for i was licensed ) I also looked at a bunch of radios icom 7000 & the ic 705 ,7100, 5100 & even the 706mkIIG But i wanted the digital & People seam to be paying Stupid money for them Older Radios 800-1000$ for a darn 8-10 year old radio without the Digital stuff ..No Way this ole boy would >>It Took Some Doing But i managed to Find a New/Open Box for several Hundred $ less Than New Price So I Jumped On It..Even if i Did half To Eat Roman Noodles For A While ..lol. It Was Worth It IMHO I Enjoy it Quit a bit & im Glad i Bought mine ..The Ft-DX10 is a really good radio But i wanted a shack n a Box to help me learn a little better to !
I agree the FT 991a is the best radio for shack in the box, it offers more bands. Although the screen is small but the fact you can add a screen to it make it worth it especially when setting it up at home.
I started my Shack in a box in 2017. The box set empty until this year. With things going the way they are I decided that now is the time for this build. More of a EMMCOM for emergency use if my family and others had to more to a more secure area. So with that, my GoBox contains my Yaesu 991, RadioIddity CB-27 and DB25-G (GMRS). It contains my MFJ 939 Tuner, Switching power supply, Power Gate, Solar Controller etc. All this in a Gator 4U.
Sounds like a great setup!
@@KK6USYHamRadioAdventures Still working on the various portable antennas for each, VHF\UHF, HF, CB, and GMRS. All will connect to the Box and be connected in part to the portable (Military Style) tripod. The HF will be some kind of End Fed 10-80m while the others will be omni directional antennas (I think) Time will tell, still evaluating. Any thoughts?
Interesting!👍👍😎🇺🇸
Finally, regarding to QRP VHF SSB operation, I've made plenty 300-600km QSOs QRP with a portable 5el or even a "pocket" HB9CW antennas. You just need to be on a mountain top during a contest, it works!
Yea a contest does seem to help , I wish more operators would try VHF/UHF SSb .
@KK6USY Ham Radio Adventures Does the Yaesu FT-991a still hold up as your recommendation? The Yaesu FT-DX10 is only $140 more as of April 2023.
Tom, if you don't care about 2m and 70cm get the FTDX10. But if those are bands you want I think the FT 991A is your best bet int a shack in the box radio.
You can get spoiled with a 991A and the G90 for their waterfalls, lol!
Thank you very much for the ❤️. I wish I could afford the 991a with all the fixins. 😂
Hi Chuck! I'm looking for a cheap mast for a temporary EFHW... I very appreciate any advice...
What frequencies are typically used on 2m SSB?
Yasau 891 HF still in production
It's not considered a shack in the box, doesn't do 2m and 70cm
I opted for a 7300 for my base station. I wish they made the mobiles with SSB capabilities. That being said, I really want a 991a for portable work. I don't take my 7300 out of my shack, but I think if you do portable work (or are getting a radio for portable work), the 991 is a no brainer. -K6MRP
Yea Michael , both good radios about same size and weight . I just wish I could by all the radios Lol, thanks for the comment!
The 7100 has a scope in the same vein that the 891 does. It does not have a waterfall and on both the 891 and 7100 scopes are useless. I got the 7100 because it has the removable head and is great mobile. Also it was considerably cheaper when I bought it. About $750 new. The other thing about the 7100 is that it has a GPS connection on the back that gives you the big advantage of having repeater look up based on your location. The 9700 has 1.2G not 220. I have a 220 all mode via Transverter. Transverters are another option for side band on a lot of radios.
Don great info, after i said no scope i kind of remembered it had one same as the ft857 probably bigger but I never use that scope. The 857 scope isn't very good but it is probably the most portable 100 watt radio that has been produced and the head ie removable also. I looked briefly at the 9700 and remembered one of the bands had a 2 in it lol1.2. I know the 991 has a GPS hook up not sure if it will do the same as 7100, in the end all the radios I mentioned are good radios and all are better at certain things. Thanks for always being there for the whole group Don!
@@KK6USYHamRadioAdventures The GPS on the 7100 probably functions a bit differently than it does on the 991A. The Fusion radios just don't take advantage of the way the Icoms do with D-Star. The Icoms will use the data from the GPS to discover repeaters near your GPS coordinates and autoset the data in the radio. I love my FTM-400s but they don't have this feature.
7300 9700 pair for the win.
That's a great way to go, takes up some space and $$$ but a great setup!
Loved my 991a it was a little dirty on transmitting bandwidth. I have mine set to 3.2k and it would put out 2/3 of my signal on lower side band and 1/3 ish went on to the upper 😳 I think when you incorporate a shack in a box you loose sum on each, over a tx/rx dedicated to a Hf/vhf/uhf. Loved it though but I like my ftdx10 so much more. The rx is so much quieter and the ability to clean up a signal with width contour notch is are right there and with 991a you would have to go into menus. Just my two cents 😉
That FTDX is a sweet radio almost got me to buy one , but I might save and go 101 who knows. Thanks for the comment!
@@KK6USYHamRadioAdventures I would do a 101 aswell two vfos vc tune preselector. No one had any when I was needing a fix so I settled and slightly nope no regrets. Love my 10 but when I get it paid off interest free I will get a 101 and sell or make the 10 a mobile or office rig ☺️
I like the 7300 but it is not all mode 2m 70cm. why Icom did that is beyond me. that is why I want the Yeasu 991a. also I do not need 10 different Radios with different bands. when the 991a has it all. and I would also like too have the Icom 706mkIIg it is just a cool radio.
A base station radio that included 220MHz along with the rest of VHF/UHF would be nice instead of throwing that band away.
True paul, and only a very few radios can do 220mhz, thanks for watching.
991a for sure
I’d like to get an 818 for SOTA. I have a 891 that I really like for POTA but it doesn’t have 2m or 70cm and it is a bit heavy for the day pack.
Also, I made contact with the Green Donkey from Big Hill with just an HT. 102 miles, 5W on each end. (He has a better antenna though)
@@K1STG-Fred what antennas were you guys each using?
@@K1STG-Fred Yea Big Hill was the SOTA/POTA i was talking about in the video good to know you have been there. Yes Derrick seems to carry most of the stations with his antenna lol. Thanks for comment and viewing!
@@6foot7dad I think Derek was using his 11 element Yagi on his 991 with 5W. I had an MFJ-1717 whip on my Alinco DJ-G7 HT. Derek’s antenna is what was putting in the work.
What's really missing in all these shack in the boxes is the 220 mhz band. Right now there no manufacturers making a 220 multi-mode radio anywhere. Why? Isn't Region 2 big enough? There are 37 countries allowed to use the band (according to Wiki).
Yea probably because it's not as popular , even in HT's there are not as many.
Anytone makes a triband mobile with the 220 MHz in it
at least my ftm400xd has 220 on rx so I can scan for traffic on the repeater & grab the tri band ht.
I believe you are a ham just enjoying the hobby 73 KQ4CD
Another great video👍 thanks for the plug👍👍👍
Here’s some questions that some people ask me…
If 2 m is dead in a area why is it dead???
What can we do to wake up 2Meters
Horizontal or vertical for 2 m SSB ?
Is horizontal that much better???
Well I think you prove every time you go out that 2m and 6m isn't dead people just need to try more. I like that you show that!
One could always use CP to be instantly interoperable with both vertical and horizontal stations, at the negligible cost of a -3dB penalty.
Thanks for the shout out very good video just look how many likes you got
Chris I meant what I said love you channel and wish you still had that first part of you intro in the new one. Of all the YT'ers you seem to like all radios and not brand specific and thats great! When 10m really gets back we will have to cross the pond for sure!!!
@@KK6USYHamRadioAdventures thanks man what intro did you mean to add to the new one.thx
Yes we had a brief contact once before but it's only a matter of time when we do it again 😉
@@digitalanaloguehamradio it was the mans a genius or something like that . it was a while ago
@@KK6USYHamRadioAdventures oh yes he's got a lot to learn. I will add it on one of my recent videos just for you
I have a tyt9800 quad band 10/6/2/70 50 watt But FM ONLY . If it did SSB I could live with that and a 5 or 10w DMR hand held. But no one makes that quad band 50w base station with SSB.
You said "all band" several times when I think you meant "all mode".