Yaesu FTDX10 VS Icom IC7300 | Studio A will never be the same
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- Опубліковано 22 лют 2023
- Some things are planned. Some are borne out of necessity. Sometimes you get smacked over the head by something that wasn't even on your radar. This is the story of a major upgrade to Studio A.
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When I got re-licensed after decades off the air, I narrowed down my choice to the 7300 and the FTDX10. I spent the extra money and got the Yaesu and I love it. It's not the most intuitive rig to use, but once I got familiar enough with it, I was so glad I picked it.
I've had my dx10 for a few months now, and i'm still amazed by what it's capable of, learning something new every day
A few years ago I bought an Icom IC-7300, compared to the Kenwood TS-430, I thought I died and went to heaven. Made a lot of wonderful contacts. Loved the ease of setting up the radio, the display. Everything about the 7300 was perfect. Then about a year ago I saw some video's on the FTdx-10, Started learning everything I could about the radio. With encouragement from my wife, ordered the FTdx-10 and could not be happier. A great radio, awsome receive and transmit.
You know, I loved my 7300. It's still a great entry level radio, but compared to this one it's a little long in tooth. They are both in the same ballpark as far as price goes. I would consider both radios excellent entry level boxes. That's pretty much the theme of Studio A. Keep it simple and attainable by most hams.
@Nunya Bidness The Yaesu FT-710 have same receiver and 1050$ ;)
@@K6UDA I think the FTdx10 in a little more than an entry level rig. The FT-710, well yes it is entry level radio. Thanks Bob for all your videos.
@@VEChaplin Nunya Bidness you are incorrect... The FTdx10 is a hybrid SDR configuration and the FT-710 is SDR only.
@@lightnin_lou It is the same base and the same FPGA and that is why the performance of the receiver is very similar. That's my point! It was even on weekends less than $1000 now. 73!
I recently upgraded from the 7300 to the FTdx10 too. The Yaesu definitely is worth the upgrade.
Soy propietario de un dx10 ase 2 años .tuve el ic7300.3 meses y vi todo lo que ofrecía. Pero no hubo duda cuando vi los resultados de Yaesu .El que dudé de yaesu a día de hoy es que poco entiende de radio miren las lista en que puesto queda icom en ruido .la tecnología avanza imparable
Thanks for the great video, I've got an FTDX10 as well and it's every bit as good as you say, the reception is as good as it gets and I really like the layout, especially the outer dial when used as Custom Select function. It's by far the best bang for the buck out there today. Thank you for the great channel.
Same experience here, I had the 7300 for 3 years, and acquired a 991a for use in the rv and on the road and was blown away with that radio's NR compared to the ICOM . I was looking to upgrade the 7300 to either a 7610 or 101D and after using the 991a, I opted for the FTDX-101D. The FTDX-10 is basically the same design as the 101D less the second receiver and VC-Tune feature. The two technologies are so far apart from ICOM to the new Yaesus that you are right no point of comparing them. Love your videos!
Welcome to the club. Long back when I got my ticket you elmered me for an HT and motivated me to pursue full privileges. I awarded myself with the same rig once I got my Extra, the DX10 is a fantastic radio. Bought a 7300 months later and hands down the FT-DX10 is beyond compare. I'm using the iCom for portable ops, not saying the DX10 can't be used in the field, I have, but I'm protecting the DX10 by keeping it shack bound.
So glad you are enjoying your new toy. Many years of joy will be had. 73 and the best to you.
Great intro to the FTDX10, Bob! Now imagine transitioning from an FT-450D to the DX10. That's what I did. I also purchased the matching speaker and the accoustic retro-fit kit which makes a big improvement on the sound quality and voice recognition. Wow! I was on an 80 meter net tonight and heard other amateurs talking about how noisy the band was. I had to turn off the DNR to understand what they were talking about. Hi, hi! As a non-contester, casual rag chewer, with the DX10 I thought I might be buying more radio than I needed. No way! The DNR and other filtering features make rag chewing and listening a pleasure. Listening fatigue is gone. I also enjoy AM DXing and broadcast band SWL'ing on the DX10. Since I'm learning morse code, I really like the CW decode option. Although I'm relatively newly licienced, I have been an SWL'er for well over 40 years. I've owned the Drake R8B and a bunch of other communication recievers. For BCB SWL'ing the only draw back with the DX10 is the lack of a synchronous dectetor and the ability to use some of the filtering options in AM mode. This is not a big deal for me as I find the DNR is the magic button I have been seeking to make HF listening a pleasure. I'm also getting good signal reports with a NVIS G5RV. Enjoy Bob!
This is just the push I needed after debating on buying one for about 6 months.
That's a very nice looking radio. I bet it looks better in person. You do have very good Audio/video equipment and I thank you for that. Have a great day and thank you for your time.
Hey Bob ! thanks for the quick QSO today on 20 meters. Sounding good up here in Canada. Glad you're enjoying that new Yaesu. Brent VA7BVV
I own a 7300, dx10, and 590SG and I can tell you that there's very little in it when it comes to performance. Neither is "best", they are just different in the way they go about things. Ask me which I prefer and you'll get a different answer every week! The best rig is the one I feel like using on the day - and neither leaves me feeling that they are inadequate overall - they simply have their own strengths and weaknesses.
I own a 7300, a DX10, and a K3. I completely agree with you. I bought a DX10 thinking I'd sell my 7300, but all three of my radios are excellent, and so far, I've managed to avoid selling any of them. Sometimes, my K3 is the best due to its multiple crystal filters. At other times, the DX10 or the 7300 proves superior. The DNR on the DX10 is fantastic, but there are moments when it becomes too watery to understand clearly, and the 7300 provides crystal-clear sound. There are a lot of good rigs available these days. I've always wanted a 590SG, but I don't think that will ever happen.
@@gordonmurphy4321 Yes, I hear people say that the DX10 "destroys" the 7300 because it's number 3 in the Sherwood list. It makes me chuckle. I think that list is doing more harm than good.
@@RF_Burns Your are right, why to look only ONE parameter (2kHz blocking dynamic tange) of Sherwood tests. In older slides Rob tells "85dB is good enought dynamic for contests on CW, and on SSB even less, as there are so much splatters anyway". I have used FTdx101D, FTdx10 and IC-7300. All of them have highlights and all are very good radios. I prefer ICOM user inteface better than Yaesu's. I do not like Yaesu spectrum scope that has no averaging. It causes migrane . And still I prefer my TS-990 to be the best radio I have ever used!
I got my FTdx10 a few weeks ago and really glad I got it too. Reminds me of the good old days of the Ten Tec receivers. The noise blanker takes out an annoying power line noise like no other I’ve had at this QTH. The APF (audio peak filter) is amazing. I really didn’t want to like this rig. The ergonomics of the dial and buttons are weird and difficult as is well known. The bandscope isn’t the best, but still useful. Yaesu has made great improvements in managing menus. (Had an FT-1000MP years ago). This is now my primary expedition/POTA rig. Not SOTA, it’s smallish, but HEAVY! Hi! all these minor nits about the ergonomics are overshadowed by the outstanding qualities of the radio part of the rig.
Thanls for your good and detailed reviews as always.
The FRDX10 is a really nice rig.
I am laughung at your explanation, and I do agree how "painfully" obvious the DNR, shift and width controls work so well on the FT DX 10. I bought one, then used the filtering on the DX 10 to pull out a weak signal and actually I could hear it. The FT DX 10 performed flawlessly. So I bought another one. As for the IPO setting, IPO 1 is normal for 40 through 10, and I use the IPO only setting on 80 meters, as that is self explanatory. Enjoy your radio, and have fun!
You've sold me. As soon as I can, I'll be getting this radio.
Hey there! Really enjoy your channel. Glad you posted this. I had a Yaesu FTDX5000 which I ended up having to sell because I got laid off last year. Yeah, it was painful because they are fantastic radios. I’ve been looking and I am going to replace it with an FTDX10. I will end up with another 5000 at some point but everything I’ve seen and read are pointing to the DX10 as a really good replacement. Take care and 73 from K4RUR in Florida.
I've never seen or heard the 5000 so your a step ahead of me.
@@K6UDA it’s a beast. It does 200 watts. Do a search real quick and check it out. Take care brother.
@@lowrybrock8272 the dx10 is neck and neck with the 5k fyi. Just doesn’t have that real radio feel
@@JayN4GO thank you sir. I need to go to HRO and play around with one.
Super review, 73 and thanks
Yes, the receiver is quieter "to the ear" on the FTDX-10's Rx than the 7300. I seriously doubt you can physically hear the difference in sensitivity between the receivers (that was a bit overly dramatic to say). Frankly, the RX is so quiet on the FTDX-10 that most of the time a slight reduction in RF Gain precludes the need for DNR. I now only use DNR to settle down lightning crashes on 75m. I agree with the swap from the 7300 to the FTDX-10. I traded my 7300 straight up for a fellow HAM's FTDX-10 and have never regretted it for a moment. The FTDX-10 does not have a "PCI" connector - it is called a DVI-D connector (PCI is an interface on the motherboard of a computer). It does not have an HDMI connector and needs to be converted from DVI-D to HDMI if that is what you are needing... but be cautious, only convert to a monitor with an HDMI/A (and NOT HDMI/B and HDMI/C type). You are in USB mode and listening through the computer - and you are not disclosing what PC sound processing or external equalization by a mixer is (or may be) going on in your audio demonstration... you should disclose this during your "review" to build transparency and credibility. You are comparing to the 7300 "over open air" recording which frankly is not really fair - although I do agree that the FTDX-10's RX is obviously more quiet. You keep saying "noticeably more sensitive" - you are using the wrong word. It is noticeably quieter - but there is no way you can hear the difference in sensitivity. The display of the 7300 is at a higher resolution than that of the FTDX-10, and the graphics are much smoother moving on the 7300. The 7300 also has waterfall averaging, something I hope Yaesu includes in future firmware updates (but somehow, I doubt it). Not only can you change the color of the waterfall, you can also change the intensity (level) of the peak reading color intensity (which makes the 3DSS more useful). Overall I would give your video production an A+, the look and quality of the video is fantastic. For the content, I give you a C+, you could have been more transparent with specifically how the sound was being captured (given that you were hitting this fact so hard) so that everyone could see under the hood about what was going on. You could also be more accurate with the difference between "what you can hear with your ears" and what true receiver sensitivity is/and means, and how human beings cannot actually hear the difference between the two radio's sensitivity. Finally, I would have liked for you to show a schematic or description of exactly how you have the FTDX-10 connected to your PC and how you captured the video (likely through a video capture board) so that people do not think that they can get your result with a simple cable to their monitor. For those reasons the content I grade at a C+. The overall grade then would be a B. Keep up the good work!
Yes, when you have an S0 noise level and can hear signals that don't even move the needle this clear and nice, you're hearing the difference in sensitivity. Your right about running it through my Rodecaster. For audio output in the video, I have the output from the radio headphone jack into the Rodecaster iPhone input. There's virtually no audio processing, just a level but yes video recording from the internal speaker then adding processing to the audio in post sucks. I used to do it the same way on the 7300.
They both have RX sensitivity of .16 micro volt, it’s the other RX characteristics that differentiate the FYDX-10. Still, great video - I know the effort they take to produce - please keep putting out these great productions!
Yaesu engineers has not learn yet how to design a good panadapter as Icom radios has. They made same design mistake on the FTDX100D/MP, FTDX10 and also on the new FT710, the lack of average setting make the signal peaks extremenly fast, very anoying and eyes Tiring problem, besides the 3D is useless.
I had the chance to test a 10 against my 7300 and the difference is not so big as been said here.
Noise floor on the 10 is yes lower than the 7300 but not so big. Its just 2 db difference.
Sensitivity is exactly the same.
Contrary as its been said, the 10 I tested had an issue with the DNR which is severe distorsion when level was adjusted over 5. That did not happened on the 7300 even at its highest level of 10.
@@AD4C I agree (as many do) in that Yaesu should include some averaging feature set for the panadapter, as for the rest of your comment that's all rather subjective - just keep your 7300. No need to bash another companies' product. The noise difference is not so big - I agree with you (as I stated in my post to which you are commenting) but it is in fact still there. Turn the ICOM RFGain all the way down and you STILL hear the HF "hiss"... something in the design of the front end I suppose. What do you mean when you say "severe distortion" - you do realize the DNR settings are not incrementally increasing the DNR - it is actually selecting different DNR algorithms? Needless to say, they are different radios with different characteristics... some people will like one, some the other - and even more will have them both...
@@AD4C I love it when you smart guys school me. Gotta agree on the 7300 graphics. It feels more organic than the DX10. I can’t really speak to the averaging because I don’t fully understand it. When I did my side by side, it was 100% based on how I heard the signals, audio as a whole and MY user experience. I don’t do my reviews in a bubble or a lab. I’m literally the average ham radio enthusiast with no math or engineering background. And I don’t pretend to be an authority.
Great Choice of rigs... use mine for portable work. Now if you really want to get better than that, make the move to the FT-Dx101MP. Amazing rig!
I've been on the fence about buying this radio as I already have the 991A. You have convinced me it is time to upgrade, but I won't be selling my other radios.I have a Ham shack tour video if you are interested in seeing my collection. 73 and keep the videos on this radio coming.
More reviews on this awesome radio would be great 👍
This is exactly what I am looking for. All of my equipment is 20 years old and in various stages of functionality so I am looking to purchase a new HF rig before winter. I am looking at the 7300 or FT-DX10 right now.
I'm posting this to save my fellow hams a repair bill and a trip to Yaesu for their rig. For those that have FL2100B amps, this is very important! In the Yaesu user manuals, they clearly show an old FL2100B Yaesu amplifier being connected directly to the rig. DO NOT directly connect an FL2100B amp to the keying line of your FTdx10 or 101!! I'm quite sure this also applies to the other modern Yaesu HF rigs as well because they all use mosfets to key external amps, not relays like the older rigs. FL2100B's have -18 volts on their relay line to key the amp. If you connect negative voltage to the keying line of these rigs, you WILL blow out the keying mosfet inside the radio! The 101 manual even says do not connect negative voltage amps to this rig directly...yet they show it in the manual! I have an old 2100B I occasionally like to run with my 101D because it's all Yaesu and kind of neat to run old school and new school gear together. My work around was simple, I made an external keying relay that uses a 12v low current wall wart power supply, a 12v relay and a diode. You simply wire the keying mosfet in the rig to key the external relay via the 12v from the wall wart, then use the contacts on the external relay to key the amp. I put the diode across the external relay coil to prevent high voltage kick backs from the relay coil from harming the keying mosfet in the radio. Remember that when you lift voltage from a relay coil, it produces a high voltage spike. Very similar to how the old points ignition systems worked. All of the Ameritron amps have kick back diodes across their T/R relays for the same reason. You can directly key an Ameritron because they use 12v+ low current on their relay lines, no need for interface boxes. Since I already had the parts just lying around, I figured it made more sense to make this than spend money on a ARB704. Besides, I'm not sure an ARB704 likes negative voltage either, it may fry one of those too. I was not willing to fry my rig or an expensive interface box to find out, that's why I made the simple relay thing that just works and is dirt cheap. By the way, for those who run unmodified SB220's or SB200's with the 120v keying line, you can use this same trick as a work around on any radio. Works like a charm.
Congrats on the FTDX10 Bob. You are correct there is nothing to compare. When other people were trying to compare the 2 radios I just felt it wasn't really fair comparison because they really are 2 different types of radios. Like Icom claims about the 7300 its a great entry level radio and stands on its own, a proven performer, period. Your in a different league with the Yaesu. Congrats again, have fun and keep that powder dry!
Love my ftdx10 :) have you done any videos on ya buggys in your garage as would love to see them ripping around??
I've done a few.
@@K6UDA ah great,gonna have a look through,cheers
I saw your FT-991A in the first shot next to the FT-DX10. I am looking to replace my IC-706MK2G with a new radio, and these are 2 that I have narrowed it down to. I am also considering the FT-710. I really like the "shack in a box" aspect of the FT-991A so I can have VHF/UHF along with HF in the same radio. The graphics aren't a huge consideration for me, as I have never had a radio with a waterfall or band scope. I'm mainly interested in portability and usability. Potentially want to use for POTA in the future. Is the better HF performance for the FT-DX10 worth requiring a separate radio for VHF/UHF if space is an issue (my "shack" is in a corner of my guest bedroom). Thanks!!
Now I'm wanting one to replace my 7300. Thanks for the info.
Glad I could cost you $1000
OMG! In the video clip with "Paul" in the garage, WHAT WAS THE VEHICLE just almost out of view? I have to see it!
Man, I just bought a new 7300. This video is killin me. Now I wish I had bought an FTDX10. I just got my HAM license.
The 7300 is a great radio. As a new ham, your not even going to hear the difference. Well, not much. Your going to love the 7300. I had mine for about seven years.
Don't sweat all the FTDX10 hype. Great radio? certainly. Second coming of Christ? nope. More sensitive than the IC-7300? absolutely NOT! Videos like this one drive me nuts because why should anyone believe the author to be a subject matter authority when they can't even use correct terminology? In a practical sense the receiver performance between any modern Icom, Yeasu, and Kenwood is barely indistinguishable except perhaps for the most challenging CW scenarios or when used in close proximity to other stations on events like Field Day. And at least your IC-7300 has bandscope averaging and a more sane controls layout. Although in this price range I'd take a TS-590SG over either of these anyway.
I own a 7300, dx10, and 590SG and I can tell you that there's very little in it when it comes to receive performance. Neither is "best" , they are just different in the way they go about things. Ask me which I prefer and you'll get a different answer every week! The best rig is the one I feel like using on the day - and beither leaves me feeling tha they are inadequate overall - they simply have their own strengths and weaknesses.
My big beef about the 7300 is its lack of a DVI port for an external monitor, there’s a lot of information on a very tiny screen.
I don’t feel like spending $3000 plus just to get that feature.
I have a 7300 and was looking for a second transceiver. The FTDX10 was an absolute no go. I suffer from a neurological condition and the buttons surrounding the tuning knob would be unworkable. I instead got a FT710 which is much more handicapped friendly.
This should be more of a consideration for ALL radios and I'm upset the HMI/UX designers for Amateur Radios don't see how that translates into value for EVERYONE.
I went through the exact same thing last year. I had the 7300 for 2-1/2 years, then I saw the FTDX-10. I did the same thing, bought the 10, then did a two too three week comparison. The NR was far and above, (to my ears) in comparison to the 7300. The receiver I thought was a very close comparison to the TS-990S I have had for years, if not a bit better. The 7300 is now gone as is the TS-990s. I replaced it with an FTDX-101D for the same reason, the 101D was better then the 990S.
I also have an FT-991A for FCS and YSF via hotspot and portable.
I live in McCall, Idaho and my noise level is also very, very low.
I got one and love it
I think I miss my 756 pro. The display had everything you need and maybe a couple bells n whistles,it had huge ears and the menus were really easy. Alas, it did have alotta stuff I didn't need so I sold it and went back to my ft990 full time. The ft990 gets every job done, doesnt have ridiculous menus and is so easy to listen to.....it sounds as smooth as a tube radio. Its ears arent quite as big but that's where the sdr comes in if I'm hunting weak signals. Keep in mind that I dont contest or anything like that, I just go on to talk with my buddies and I always get great audio reports even when I use a hand mic.
I love love LOVE my venerable 756 Pro3 (my favorite rig ever), but would love to add a modern-day Yaesu like the FTDX-10 to my stable of rigs! I'm very curious to play with a current Yaesu!
I got the ft991A and the ftdx10, the ftdx10 has an amazing receiver in it
I own an FTDX10 and love it....but LOL, the reason your S meter is not moving, is because 1) you are on a quiet band (10 meters) and 2) you have IPO engaged - same as the attenuator on Kenwood and Icom rigs. Reason why your waterfall is dead is because you have the waterfall level set low.
That’s the preamp. I run with preamps off normally. Ip1 and ip2 are the first and second stages of the preamp. Brings up all the noise 3 & 6 db
I've had both and I'm currently using the 7300.
I picked up an FTDX10 back in February of 2022 and had to return it when everything to do with digital modes stopped working. HRO was going to swap it out for another but the guy behind the counter told me he was having the same issue with his and nobody had been able to figure out a solution. That kind of steered me away.
I ended up exchanging it for an IC7300 and another Astron RS35 power supply.
I find the IC7300's controls a lot easier to use. For me the menus and positioning of the buttons are more comfortable. Side by side though I think the DX10 has a better receiver and sounds better even with my less than great antenna setup.
I had a Yaesu 991A I sold for an Icom 7300. Reason was, the Yaesu menu system, in my opinion, just plain sucks. I do like the looks of this one though. But, is the menu still the Yaesu setup, that is about as intuitive as quantum mechanics???? :)
The 7300, 991a, & 590sg were the three “entry level” rigs to consider for my first hf. I landed on the 590sg. From what I’ve read about the DX10, things might have been different if it was available.
About 6 years ago I had a Kenwood TS-590S (I was the original owner). When I sold it to another ham, he emailed me a few weeks later.
He had bought the TS-590S as a backup rig. His primary rig was an IC-7300.
Guess what?... He liked the TS-590S so much that it is now his primary rig and the IC-7300 became his backup rig.
What is that bassline in the intro? Sounds incredible!
What past video of K7UDA should I watch to see what Antenna he has hooked up to this?
A DX Commander Classic. P.S. I wish I could have picked up K7UDA as a call. Trying to shed all my 6 land trappings.
@@K6UDA Former six call here....now N7BWB. In Idaho, 25 miles from the Oregon border. Got my FTDX10 from HRO Portland last September and it's simply a game changer. Couldn't be happier. Worked Spain last weekend with an endfed. What a great time to be a ham. Thanks for the video. -73, Bruce
@@K6UDA Yeah sorry. Having a KE7 call and living "just down the road" 1.5 hours away I get used to thinking with the 7's.
I got the FTDX-10 also and like you I found a massive difference between the DX10 and 7300, however, before I got the FTDX-10 I got the FT-891 for portable ops and I noticed a big difference in the noise floor and audio quality, the 7300 has a harsh sounding audio and it's quite a noisy radio and only for the 891 I would not have known any better.
I can listen to the 891 all day/night and it sounds so much easier on the ear, I listen with headphones mostly. But I was amazed at how better I was able to pull DX out of the 891 and I can listen to the 891 with no noise reduction but had to have NR on all the time with the 7300 and it effects audio quality same with the DX10, I rarely use the DNR because the receiver is so quiet.
For SWL the dx10 also sounds much better as Icom cut a lot of the lows from the 7300 on AM, I don't know why and the equalizer does nothing to improve this.
Now I got the FTDX-10 and it's an amazing radio and I think Yaesu did right by making a hybrid radio because I think superhet sounds the best and Full sdr appears to be inherently noisy with harsh sounding audio, for example, any Kiwi Sdr sounds harsh and noisy, but, go to the AGC settings and play with the settings and you can almost make that background noise disappear, same with the Malahit SDR and the Airspy HF+ via SDR console and the SUN SDR, with SDR you really need full control over AGC and not the usual "fast, Slow" option.
I paid 1500 Euro's in the E.U for the 7300 + PSU back in May 2019 and 1688 Euro's for the FTDX-10 + SP-30 + M-70 Mic at the end of April 2022. By far the DX-10 is the best radio.
For rag chews on 80m where everyone is up to S9+ the 7300 is more than good enough or for those mainly into Digi modes.
Icom's remote software is a real pain in the ass to setup but Yaesu at the price should have had built in Lan, having to buy a 300 Euro box to enable remote operation is a disgrace.
A few criticisms I have with the DX10 is that the monitor out resolution is a disgrace, 800x600, seriously Yaesu ? you get nowhere near SDR experience at this resolution. You can't even use the mouse.........
Why couldn't Yaesu have a built in panadapter like the TS-590SG ? then you could add your own SDR for the Full SDR experience and use SDR console.
Keyboard and mouse control needs to be improved to actually do something useful. I'd love to see on-the-fly keyboard input for PSK31 and RTTY rather than have to program macros, I mean macros are fine but you really do need on-the-fly typing, this would make these modes really fun on the DX10 without needing a computer.
Show me a perfect radio ? anyway, the FTDX-10 is a superb performing and superb sounding radio.
Now all we need is Yaesu to release an FT-818 replacement, something small, built in filters, light with proper lithium battery and charging via USB-C and USB-C for data, options to keep costs down like, 2m, 70cm, digi mode add on, tuner add on. I don't care about big power zapping screen and waterfall when working QRP portable. No need to go too far from the 818/817 roots.
I looked at the Sherwood specs for the 7300 and DX10. Sensitivity was mention and suggested the DX10 was third on the list. If you look at the sensitivity column, it appears to me the 7300 is more sensitive. The DX10 is higher on the list because of blocking tested with CW signals. It seems the 7300 is as sensitive as the DX10 if not more and the DX10 is more selective.
To my ear I like the RXin a Yeasu better. For sure this isn’t an apple to apple comparison, just my journey. I started with an Icom IC-7100. I still use it for 2m/70cm and DStar. HF was hard, I couldn’t hear through the noise in Atlanta. Maybe experience level but no amount of shifting, noise reduction anything worked. Now TX and antenna were good I would get great signal reports back, but couldn’t hear. I have an FT-891 that I use portable. I brought that into the shack and suddenly I could hear. It was great and I left it set up for a year. I could dial it in pulled in my longest contacts to date on the same EFHW. End of last year I upgraded to the FTdx10. Night and day over the 891. First of course the menu system, LOL. However it was another jump forward. If I have a station to close to the station I’m working I can dial in a quick shift and bam they are gone. I love this radio. I am very jealous of your noise floor. We are looking at moving to the Blue Ridge Mountains in the next few years. Hopefully I can get higher and drop my noise floor as well! 73!
My first rig was the 7300 my second was the Ftdx10 and I did do an AB test with my steppir urban beam and a switch. Weak Signals I could hear on the Ftdx10 were complete noise on the 7300 it certainly has a more sensitive receiver. That is born out by the Sherwood report, I have been telling everyone I know to spend the extra $100 to $200 and buy the Ftdx10 over the 7300
It's almost like you can see the static electricity flicking around the band like it would flicker around a shorting high voltage transformer or a van de graph generator.
To funny with CVZ, the 10 meter beacon. I have had more contacts with my FTDX10, was hard to pick up stations in the weeds with my icom, a really nice radio, and yes HRO is my go to shop
To be honest, I never thought I'd be a Yaesu HF fan, yet here I am.
Appreciate your content Bob. I am new to HF been a ham for 30 years. Would you recommend this radio for an HF beginner? 73 James Ve3isb
Yep. At $1k to $1200 for this radio, the 710 or the Icom 7300 I would consider these an entry level radio. Stepping up means nearly doubling the price and I'm not sure your getting double the radio.
Way to go mate no good being the wealthiest man in the cemetery
with the most radios we are here for a good time not a long time .
in the big pictue of time on earth .
I did the same had to sell 2 to buy a new 1 with a FT-991A
sure the FTDX10 is newer and nice , with a sweet display
But i am still very happy with the 991a DNR & Contour , NB performance
compared to the 7062G ,ic7000 , 756pro 3 and 7300 . still like ic radios
but new Yaesu radios does help with listening fatigue & hearing low low down signals .
also the sound with my sony noise cancelling headphones blows my mind .
Thanks for your opinion and time to make all the youtube videos Bob
K6UDA , Enjoy the new FTDX10 mate 73 👍
nice radio Bob. I have an FT-991A, I wish I had more $$$ before I got this Yaesu radio, I would have gotten the FT-DX10. I also traded up my HF radio from my Kenwood TS-430S. I have that and an FT-891 & a G-90. de N6KV
Greetings from Eastern Idaho! Great video! Patch inbound to you soon by the way ;)
K8QLW here. Thanks.
Still with a TS-530 and an Argonaut. Maybe it's time for an upgrade...
Sadly I run an S6 noise level here. 😟
Gotta love that new radio smell
It was probably the FT857 or 897 as they were their last shack in a box offering until the 991A. I’ve had such horrible luck with their products VX5R, FT100 & finally the FT857. All failed, the VX5R spent more time at their repair shop than it did in my hand. The FT100 failed right out of the box, brought it back to HRO and got the 706MKIIG. The FT857 hooked it up, worked fine, next day no power out on HF. Sold it to a friend for half price come to find out they had a bad batch of finals in one of the production runs. Now granted this all started 20+ years ago. So can you see why I’m so reluctant to buy another.
Although right now the deal HRO has on the FTDX10 makes it very tempting. Only slightly more expensive than the 991A, which from the appearance of things has horrible HF RX. Only slightly more expensive than the IC7300 $300 difference.
I own the icom 7300 for the last three years and it’s a great radio. However, after watching your video, I’m taking serious consideration into the yaesu FTdx10. Seems like the receivers a little bit more sensitive. Only thing I don’t like about yaesu is their menu system seems to be not as user-friendly as the Icom.
7300 vs 710 would have been closer in comparison IMHO.
I saw the same type of a difference when I went from the 7300 to the 7610.
Does the X10 have an internal antenna turner?
Yes.
I have a 7300 and the FTdx10 in my shack. Your experience with them is exactly what mine are. The 10 has a much more sensitive receiver, check out the Sherwood list, than the ICOM. The 7300 is still a fantastic radio and probably one of the best selling HF rigs of all time. The 10 is a newer hybrid design (super heterodyne/SDR) and costs more $$$ so it should be a better radio. I kept my 7300 in service and use it mainly as my CW rig. 73 Bob de WA9SWW . .
The Yaesu FTDX10 is listed 3rd, but actually is 2nd on the Sherwood list. Rob S later added a correction to the 6700 rating as indicated by the additional note of 'y' next to the rating ('108y'). As of 2017, the 6700 fell down on the list. Making Yaesu the TOP 3. Here's the addendum:
NOTE: Tests in 2017 of a second 6700, and by the ARRL of a 6500, no longer measured a dynamic-range increase with the preamp ON. ***The 108 dB value is no longer valid***. 2 kHz dynamic range is 99 dB, same as 6600M. As with any radio, only use a preamp if it improves copy, and usually only on 15m and up.
73's
I have never been a fan of any Digital noise reduction as it has always messed with the RX to the point of struggling to make some stations readable.A few I know have this radio and claim the same as you that this is a game changer.
Hmmm maybe i should invest in one.Cheers Buddy from the UK
I love my Icom 756 Pro3! Love the bandscope's simplicity and display, and it suits me well. Unless you are a serious contester or DX'er, or have extra money to burn, why get an FTDX-10? That said, dammit I want one, LOL!
Both radio are nice 👌
Yes they are.
A friend of mine had both the 7300 and the DX10. He liked the 7300 a lot better and traded the DX10 in for an amp.
There are things I like about the 7300 better than the DX10 but I couldn't afford to keep both. I think the DX10 has a slightly better all around receiver and that won out for me. Others may have a different opinion.
That would be such a game-changer field day I could be wrong the way that I was taught years ago if you can hear him you can work them it makes the older systems look like record versus MP3 LOL hahaha
Sold the 7300 was a good radio when it came out. Bought the dx10 and now I know what a great radio is.
the opposite of what you are saying is the case, the noise reduction in the 710 makes that watery sound at higher levels, the noise reduction in the 7300 does not. if you would have set both radios to that and made a recording of it, all people would have heard that. beside that, the 710 has a cheap a/d converter and will never sound as good as the 7300 that has a higher quality a/d converter. i can set the noise reduction and noise blanker in the icom to max and then signals (SSB speech) that werent intelligible before become intelligible in 20m, you can not do that with the yaesu FT710, FTDX101D or FTDX101MP.
Great to hear Todd is still alive and well in Georgia. STOP!!!!!
'See kuuu, see kuuu, see kuuu; This is Kilo Charleee Four, Tango Victor Zuuuluuu...' LOL
I am interested in Yaesu now.
Interesting and enthusiastic review, but I hear too much bass in the audio. Speech intelligence is mainly conveyed by higher frequencies, specifically between 500 and 200 Hz, which is why they provide filters to do just that, so it would be swell if you demonstrated the audio with less bass, even with DSP NR engaged. Just saying. Thanks. JT
So an FTDX-710AESS and save a few $$$ or just get an FTDX-10?
Still really like the IC-7300, but can see the advantages of the Yaesu.
Enjoy the radio Bob and thanks for the video. 73's
Thanks.
From what I've seen the DNR on the DX10 is much better than the 710. Best to save a few more bucks and go for the DX10. The 710 is promoted by yeasu as a "field day" radio. I considered the 710 to save money. I'm glad I went the DX10 route.
@@Foxtrotromeo721 Thanks Paul!
I must admit to being drawn to the FTDX-10. Would not want to pull the trigger on the 710 and regret it later!
The 710 is an SDR, the Ftdx10 is a super heterodyne receiver in front of an SDR. You get the advantages of both. Find a sale and go for the 10.
Congratulations! The FTDX10 has the 2nd best receiver in the industry! (#1 is a Flex radio.) I love my FTDX10! 73!
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Flex is number 2 after the Yaesu FTDX101.
Great vid and glad to see someone else as exited about this rig as I am after only 5 days and also I traded my 7300 in against a new one of these .Still getting exited at 70 years old about new toys lol .isn't technology a wonderful thing ..only one moan with me I like to record my cq call on ssb and cw modes and just push the button and let the rig keep repeating till I get an answer saves my voice and fingers. With the icom you get it to permanently repeat. You have to keep pushing the button to play the recording again on this rig .unless it can ? I can't find it ..73
I’m a big user of the message repeat for CQ also. As far as I could see, so far, you need to keep pressing the button.
Yes thats right you would think yeasu could do a software upgrade for that too really is a pain I like to be messing with other things while that's sending cq
I've been licensed for 5 years. The 991A is my only HF rig. The DNR is pretty bad on that radio, and the spectrum analyzer is very slow compared to the dx10. I have been thinking that I should add the dx10 for the shack and use the 991A for mobile work. Sounds like it might be a good choice. Thanks for the demo.
73 Jim N4FAF
11:58 the 7300 does not have a "warbly" sound to the noise reduction. Wrong choice of words. That's Kenwood's M.O. If anything on the 7300 it sounds like it has a bit of a reverb. It's fine if you don't like it, but it's not warbly and watery like on the Kenwood. It was a huge step ahead compared to anything that came before it when it came out. For total FM type total silence on HF you'd need a full SDR with an adjustable AGC Threshhold control which the FTDX10 does not have.
Hi Bob,
The one year anniversary for my reverse mortgage is in April. Have already decided on an FTdx101MP, FTdx101D, or the FTdx10. Which one will be determined after I pay off all my debt and see what is left. You and your family stay safe. 73 WJ3U
Hey Hey Don... My Buddy tells me the FTDX101 is even better than the 10. I'm trying to talk him into loaning me his but I'm kinda afraid.
@@K6UDA Hi Bob,
Afraid there will be another knock on the door asking for a shipment signature? 🙂 You and the family stay safe. 73 WJ3U
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Hi, i have both Radios and for me is the Icom IC-7300 the better Radio. 73 to you all.
PCI connector? You mean DVI?
You still using a hdmi to dvid adaptor after 9 months?
Recently I choose the FTDX10 based on the recommendation of a long-time DXer and am not at all disappointed. I have no experience with the ICOM and hear it's a great radio for $1k, but just love the Yaesu.
The 7300 was a game changer and Yeasu will never sell the numbers that icom have .
Absolutely. The 7300 was the revolution, FTDX10 was the evolution.
I have a Yaesu FT 897 D...i cant afford anything else :) 73 from Norway.
IDK, I like the more sensitive receiver, and better DNR, but the graphics on the FTDX10 are HORRIBLE!
I do have a secondary noise suppression unit, but since removing all TV coax and putting ferrites in the right places I do not even use it and get 0 noise floor on IC-7300, without DNR. It was almost 9 before I put on all the ferrites, HVAC has 3 alone, and stripped the TV coax from my house.
Damn it Bob, you're costing me money!
I have a ft dx10 and the recieve is a little better than my Ftdx101mp. I also sold my 7300. I have always had at least one of each of the big three. Right now I have an ft991a,a ftdx10,ftdx 710 and Ftdx101mp. I’m embarrassed.
Studio A gets a free Big upgrade Yaesu FTDX10 VS Icom IC7300? Or did he pay for it?
I guess you don't listen to the videos. I ordered this from HRO, flipped my credit card and had to sell my 7300 to partially pay for it.
@@K6UDA Thank you for the update. Should I remove my comment? I need to treat you better. I have a sad story with Elecraft that is playing out, I would love to share with somebody but not everybody.
When your recording source is only recording at 30 FPS and you convert it it to 60FPS for youtube...thats why the video looks " Stuttery". Do'nt convert to 60....just upload at stock....it's still 4K....but not stuttering !
Ok so you now know the utter bliss of a great receiver AND a super DNR. Now you need WIN4YEASU software to give you computer rig control via CAT to your PC. Enjoy the 10. 73 Art W1SWL
That would be cool if I had a PC. I wonder if they offer it in a MAC version.
@@K6UDA Of course... not. And no Linux either.
Yaesu is a lot better than the Icom, I have the Yaesu FTDX101MP, 991A and 710 and if you want something that is even better I have the TenTec Orion II and that receiver is better than the Yeasu. I also have a K3 and it's not even in the in the league. I use the K3 or the Yaesu 991A on hunting trips with a trap vertical. Nice thing about the 991A it has UHF/VHF and HF so I have everything all in one box. I do run a Icom 9100 in the truck. When hunting I use solar and battery for power, the "S" meter doesn't move at all and I can spend hours on the radio in the down time. Don't try the Yaesu FTDX101MP, it will really hurt your bank account...
Ftdx10 has the best ears on the market today unless you spend 3k for a 101d/mp it just hears every thing. I was working 10w station on low band last night he was right above the s3 noise floor. Best move you could have ever done Bob 😉 I got sum para eq settings that will work well with the hifi mics works well for both ray n Dx boost high n mids 😉email me and I ll fire you off my settings I’m good on qrz 😊
I think many people do not fully understand or articulate receiver performance... (and to a further extent misinterpret Sherwood numbers). "Hearing is sensitivity" - the differentiating performance of many radios is selectivity and other important Receiver characteristics.. "101d/mp it just hears every thing"... ugh. 7300, FTDX10, FTDX 101/mp will all hear the same signal - I doubt seriously you could find a signal that all three could not hear (hell, even my uBITX can hear them). Sensitivity is relatively easy to achieve. What you are wanting to say (and Sherwood says) is that selectivity is drastically improved on the aforementioned radios - as well as other important receiver characteristics. none of these radio's will hear a darn thing if your antenna SYSTEM does not perform well.
Might be easier for you to email me. K6UDARADIO@gmail.com. It already all over the internet.
@@K6UDA sent 😉
I also have a FTDX10 in a urban enviroment, surrounded by buildings and have two mobile antennas outside on my porch, works fantastic, I was afraid that I will nothing hear in such a place !.
The DX10 is the most polarising rig I own. Lots to like, and lot's not to like. 😕
Just looked up the price. Lower than I thought.
Personally I turn the level up some
The first minute was enough.
sounds like under water.
Safety 3rd?
Greetings dear friend. It has been the question of many Radio Amateurs in the world and I would like to hear your sincere and technical opinion if possible because this has become a worldwide debate with controversial opinions. Are the new transceivers with Touch-screen technology really reliable? wouldn't they be easier to give technical problems? Or is this a meaningless myth?
I love my dx10! A word of CAUTION... use ONLY a DVI compatible monitor. A DVI to HDMI Converter can cause the External Monitor Board to fail in the radio. Even Yaesu says this on their site.
Enjoy the dx10.
😆 Another one addicted to DNR... It happens... 🤷♂️