Hey man! Thanks for the video! I’ve got a 2020 Kawasaki Teryx 4 EPS 800, and a dual battery setup is definitely on my to do list! You helped explain to me how the isolator works! Thank you!
Great video! I think it was pretty strait forward. I appreciate all of your videos. They are practical and are filled with a lot of useful information. I suppose the only thing I could possibly suggest to add for this one would be a basic drawing or schematic along with a parts list. After watching this, I will definitely add an additional battery and clone your system. I'm kind of surprised that Honda hasn't offered it as an upgrade option at this stage of the game. Thanks for doing what you do!
Thank you so much “Excellent Excellent” I recently purchased a new Textron Stampede with a Hunters package. I did not really want or need all the Bells & Whistles, however, the Dealer offered a deal I could not say “NO TO” It came with a Warn 4,500 lb. winch, a full width hood LED Light bar, and LED lights in the front fender. I had the dealer install a Turn signal kit & License plate light. I then installed (myself) a 72” plow and an electric powered actuator to control the angel of the snow plow from within the Cab. (Extremely Pleased with that feature” The first evening I was out plowing snow using the winch and the roof LED, the battery light came on. I contacted dealership, your video helped me convince the dealership to work with me on installing a second battery with the “Isolator” Again, thank you!
I installed a second battery about a month or so ago in my TALON X4. It was a matter of necessity since I ended up with a dead main battery because of stupidity on my part. I have a 2-way GMRS radio installed and it WAS wired to the main battery. I am a member of a radio club that does a weekly chat on the 2-way's, and after the chat I went inside and forgot to turn off the radio.... 2 days later I went out to discover a dead battery, and it WOULD NOT take a charge! Right after that, I ordered a new battery, and proceeded to getting all the bits for an AUX battery installation. I now have everything that isn't factory original equipment running off the AUX. battery. I also built an electronic timer that will kill all the other things after a preset time and not drain the battery. Works great, glad I did it, no more worries.
In a modern ATV or UTV a separate battery for the engine management & ignition is a really good idea, especially if you run a bunch of external accessories like winches, coolers, floodlight illumination or AC power inverters. In some cases, if your battery keeps dipping when you are dragging it down say when winching a big moose out of a swamp you can crash or damage your vehicle system electronics.
Dual batteries are a must for me, I like the filling that I have knowing I can add a few extra led lights and a wrench and radio, without causing problems with my machine.
Hello, Great Video! About to do a second battery set up myself for my Honda 1000. Question...What size is the second battery? I purchased a Duracell 12 ah, AGM. Also, do you need a battery tie-down kit for the second battery placement? Type and brand you may recommend? Thanks, Kirk
Good video. This is not a matter of opinion …your are speaking facts. I’m a car audio tech, and I do work on side by sides, boats, cars , trucks etc . The fact of the matter is your vehicle comes factory with a battery and it’s factory accessories. The battery your vehicle comes with is only meant to power factory accessories with some room for a few extras that draw low current like a few led lights etc. but not meant for led lights all over plus winches, radios, amplifiers an so on. If your adding an a bunch of extra accessories you absolutely need a second battery.. it wouldn’t be a bad idea to upgrade the factory battery either. It’s very simple to figure out by using ohms law…current, voltage and resistance, do the math.
I plan to put this setup in my pioneer in the near future. Thanks for all the info! One question tho is your pioneer hot AF in that Arizona heat? Lol I live in indiana and mine gets pretty toasty in the summer
Cool video. Thanks for the info. I have my battery isolator. I’m looking for a battery now. Why does everyone like those odyssey batteries? Do the batteries need to match?
Gary, that was a great video, thank you! When your ignition is in off position, is your solenoid also off? I have my sound system wired directly to my stock battery per manufacturers recommendation and is has to be powered up every time I ride. It appears to be draining my battery over about 4 days if I don’t start my machine. Will your set up isolate all of my accessories if they are wired correctly?
Bought that same dash switch. Cant get it to light up with key on. I'll try that fuse tap you recommended farther down. I posi-tapped into the black/white acc. wire like others have done. Must have not made a good connection? Also, where are you running those small wires to off either side of the true isolator?
Thanks for stopping by. Here is the link to the panel I used www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073TTNDM6/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 For the dual voltage gauge I switch it out for the one that comes in this kit www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WRJI3BU/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Based on Your recommendation, I bought the odyssey PC 680 to use as the second battery. It doesn’t appear to fit in the battery well molded into the engine bay. Was yours just a really tight fit or did they change the battery?
Without the stinger solenoid, I guess everything that’s fed from the aux battery would always be hot? And That’s why the solenoid is triggered by a keyed hot?
Question, I installed a dual battery setup using your example, my question is how do you have your dual voltage indicator wired. Mine is on all the time ? If I connect to the True Isolator the way you show in the video my indicator is on all the time. Do you have the same issue ? How can I get around this problem ? Thanks
I used a fuse tap from the "ACC" port on the fuse box, one similar to this. www.amazon.com/Mini-Fuse-Circuit-Adapter-Terminals/dp/B00AK0TGRS Any auto parts store should have them. I then just zip tied down the lid as it will not clip on due to the tap.
I went with the true isolator because it was the best price and most complete kit available at the time. I have had zero issues, unfortunately I am no familiar with the other brands.
The pro is only one battery, and many people have done it by installing it under the drivers seat, the con is any issues you may have that are "power" related you will not be able to isolate without disconnecting each accessory. I installed the second battery because the trans is very voltage sensitive. With the second battery it cost more, but anything I add does not put a load on the factory battery, and if I have an issue the dealer could not say anything.
No, I use the second fuse box, except for the light bar, I did use a relay for that as I don't want to put that many amps through the switch. Thanks for watching!
Here is the link for the kit that I used in the video. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WRJI3BU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Here is what I am using now that I have changed out the switch panel. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072QZPKLG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I like this one better as it fits into a switch mount, thanks for watching!
I plan on buying a 2021 P1000 and like the idea of a second battery. I’ll have to pay someone to install. All I know about electricity is you can’t see it and it will knock the shit out of you.
LOL but 12v is not that bad. Check out the Hondasxs.com forum and there may be someone in your area can can help you and make it look cleaner than mine. Thanks for watching!
I just use 2 batteries No isolation. I monitor the voltage during operation. Havent had any issues but now I'm noticing that there is a problem while in operation my power steering and my sound amp fail . Voltage during operation shot upwards around 18 v. There is an intermittent with the regulator I'm assuming at this point. The reason that I do not use isolation is due to the fact that I need the winch to have both batteries for max amps needed to pull . 1 battery just isnt enough. Do you think a car battery would work better or any other opinions ...I'm all ears. About to replace the voltage regulator
I have heard of people putting a full size battery under the driver seat and running bigger wires to it for the acc. There is lots of room under there if you don't have the OEM storage, and you could buy a generic battery mount from Jegs (or a similar place) for the mount.
Going to install a 12v car battery under my seat. This will be isolated and used only for LEDs and auxiliary cigarette lighter/USB charge port(s). Will add a solar trickle charger or recharge via battery charger when in the garage. No need to risk potential electrical gremlins by running colour changing whips or other aesthetic gizmos.
Almost, you can get a kit like this one, store.hondasxs.com/products/true-utv-sbi-cm-utv-dual-battery-connect-monitor-kit and then just get the battery, and fuse box. Thanks for stopping by!
also most people do realize that they can do damage by over and under utilizing the volts and amps, you just think they don't maybe your friends do not know that? you make it seem like everyone does not know? maybe a few percent does not know...that is a very small sample size from your stats my friend...
those others who have all the lights are perfectly functional... you however I see cannot absorb that...they are going 65 mph and need to see beyond your normal headlights...it is not you because you do not perform that type of driving... wake up man and get with the program... you do not see to be the brightest bulb out there if you think otherwise???
Excellent prognosis and I’m following your lead! This is totally on me to do list!! Thanks for work and sharing!!!!
Great video, thanks for sharing. Just ordered a kit for my Honda Pioneer.
don't have one yet but this gave some great info to think about
Hey man! Thanks for the video! I’ve got a 2020 Kawasaki Teryx 4 EPS 800, and a dual battery setup is definitely on my to do list! You helped explain to me how the isolator works! Thank you!
Glad I could help, thanks for watching!
Great video! I think it was pretty strait forward. I appreciate all of your videos. They are practical and are filled with a lot of useful information. I suppose the only thing I could possibly suggest to add for this one would be a basic drawing or schematic along with a parts list. After watching this, I will definitely add an additional battery and clone your system. I'm kind of surprised that Honda hasn't offered it as an upgrade option at this stage of the game. Thanks for doing what you do!
I plan on it. Looking at oodles of people that installed, to try and fond the best for me. Thanks for yor in put.
Thank you so much “Excellent Excellent” I recently purchased a new Textron Stampede with a Hunters package. I did not really want or need all the Bells & Whistles, however, the Dealer offered a deal I could not say “NO TO”
It came with a Warn 4,500 lb. winch, a full width hood LED Light bar, and LED lights in the front fender. I had the dealer install a
Turn signal kit & License plate light. I then installed (myself) a 72” plow and an electric powered actuator to control the angel of the snow plow from within the Cab. (Extremely Pleased with that feature”
The first evening I was out plowing snow using the winch and the roof LED, the battery light came on. I contacted dealership, your video helped me convince the dealership to work with me on installing a second battery with the “Isolator”
Again, thank you!
Glad to help, thanks for stoping by!
I installed a second battery about a month or so ago in my TALON X4. It was a matter of necessity since I ended up with a dead main battery because of stupidity on my part. I have a 2-way GMRS radio installed and it WAS wired to the main battery. I am a member of a radio club that does a weekly chat on the 2-way's, and after the chat I went inside and forgot to turn off the radio.... 2 days later I went out to discover a dead battery, and it WOULD NOT take a charge! Right after that, I ordered a new battery, and proceeded to getting all the bits for an AUX battery installation. I now have everything that isn't factory original equipment running off the AUX. battery. I also built an electronic timer that will kill all the other things after a preset time and not drain the battery. Works great, glad I did it, no more worries.
In a modern ATV or UTV a separate battery for the engine management & ignition is a really good idea, especially if you run a bunch of external accessories like winches, coolers, floodlight illumination or AC power inverters. In some cases, if your battery keeps dipping when you are dragging it down say when winching a big moose out of a swamp you can crash or damage your vehicle system electronics.
Got my pioneer 1000 2021
Ordered me Extreme battery got the true battery kit will be adding some Led lights
Great info wheels down
Dual batteries are a must for me, I like the filling that I have knowing I can add a few extra led lights and a wrench and radio, without causing problems with my machine.
I would like to do this but will prob just pickup a noco gb70 boost to carry with on long trail rides. Can use for truck and UTV 👍
Great video,waiting for parts to get here so I can install on my maverick,have one question,inline fuse for second fuse block?
Hello, Great Video! About to do a second battery set up myself for my Honda 1000. Question...What size is the second battery? I purchased a Duracell 12 ah, AGM. Also, do you need a battery tie-down kit for the second battery placement? Type and brand you may recommend? Thanks, Kirk
Good video. This is not a matter of opinion …your are speaking facts. I’m a car audio tech, and I do work on side by sides, boats, cars , trucks etc . The fact of the matter is your vehicle comes factory with a battery and it’s factory accessories. The battery your vehicle comes with is only meant to power factory accessories with some room for a few extras that draw low current like a few led lights etc. but not meant for led lights all over plus winches, radios, amplifiers an so on. If your adding an a bunch of extra accessories you absolutely need a second battery.. it wouldn’t be a bad idea to upgrade the factory battery either. It’s very simple to figure out by using ohms law…current, voltage and resistance, do the math.
Any chance you could post a wiring diagram and parts list for us newbies
I wish I could do it myself and not pay a guy to do it. Great video!
If you divide the light wattage vs the input voltage, you will get the maximum amperage. E.g.-300 watt light/12 volts =25amps.
I plan to put this setup in my pioneer in the near future. Thanks for all the info! One question tho is your pioneer hot AF in that Arizona heat? Lol I live in indiana and mine gets pretty toasty in the summer
Mines not bad and does not bother me unless I have the windshield on in the summer. Thanks for watching!
Cool video. Thanks for the info. I have my battery isolator. I’m looking for a battery now. Why does everyone like those odyssey batteries? Do the batteries need to match?
odyssey battery are the way to go, I will not use another brand,,, PC 680 is what I use
Gary, that was a great video, thank you!
When your ignition is in off position, is your solenoid also off? I have my sound system wired directly to my stock battery per manufacturers recommendation and is has to be powered up every time I ride.
It appears to be draining my battery over about 4 days if I don’t start my machine.
Will your set up isolate all of my accessories if they are wired correctly?
If you never fixed this, wire it to your bussman accessory post and it will fix that problem
Don’t hookup memory wire on radio and it won’t drain your battery
Do you think it would make that big of a difference if I used a lithium battery compared to an acid battery?
Can you post a list of the parts for your second battery installation?
Do you have a link for your winch breaker? what amperage is it? My winch came factory, and so all I did is move it over to the secondary battery.
Any chance you can provide a parts listing?
This is True Dual Battery Isolator unit. Now with improvement like connecting and monitoring feature see it at www.dfna.info
Bought that same dash switch. Cant get it to light up with key on. I'll try that fuse tap you recommended farther down. I posi-tapped into the black/white acc. wire like others have done. Must have not made a good connection?
Also, where are you running those small wires to off either side of the true isolator?
The small wires off the isolator go the the voltage meter on the dash to show the main battery and aux battery.
Cool video, what's the Brand and Model of that switch panel? Been looking for it on Amazon, but can't find the one with the dual volt monitor. Thanks
Thanks for stopping by. Here is the link to the panel I used www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073TTNDM6/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
For the dual voltage gauge I switch it out for the one that comes in this kit
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WRJI3BU/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thanks DnD
Based on Your recommendation, I bought the odyssey PC 680 to use as the second battery. It doesn’t appear to fit in the battery well molded into the engine bay. Was yours just a really tight fit or did they change the battery?
Mine was a tight fit, I ended changing it to a smaller one.
Does the blue light on the isolator stay on when the machine is off?
Without the stinger solenoid, I guess everything that’s fed from the aux battery would always be hot? And That’s why the solenoid is triggered by a keyed hot?
Yes you are correct, I could wire a switch to run the aux stuff with the key off if needed but I prefer it this way. Thanks for watching!
I use a flip switch 100 amp breaker shut off when not using the machine..
Can you put a parts list in?
Question, I installed a dual battery setup using your example, my question is how do you have your dual voltage indicator wired. Mine is on all the time ? If I connect to the True Isolator the way you show in the video my indicator is on all the time. Do you have the same issue ? How can I get around this problem ?
Thanks
Can you show us where you wired from the ignition source please? Thanks.
I used a fuse tap from the "ACC" port on the fuse box, one similar to this. www.amazon.com/Mini-Fuse-Circuit-Adapter-Terminals/dp/B00AK0TGRS
Any auto parts store should have them. I then just zip tied down the lid as it will not clip on due to the tap.
Hi , is the true am is the best isolator? I noticed theres the NVX XSBI80, and quad boss isolator? Which one you recommend? Thank you in advance
I went with the true isolator because it was the best price and most complete kit available at the time. I have had zero issues, unfortunately I am no familiar with the other brands.
@@DirtNDiesel thank you for the quick reply and info on your video.
What are the pro's and con's on simply installing a larger battery than my current one, instead of a dual battery setup? thanks brother
The pro is only one battery, and many people have done it by installing it under the drivers seat, the con is any issues you may have that are "power" related you will not be able to isolate without disconnecting each accessory. I installed the second battery because the trans is very voltage sensitive. With the second battery it cost more, but anything I add does not put a load on the factory battery, and if I have an issue the dealer could not say anything.
@@DirtNDiesel amazing, super helpful. Thank you
With the stinger do you need to use relays for every acc?
No, I use the second fuse box, except for the light bar, I did use a relay for that as I don't want to put that many amps through the switch. Thanks for watching!
@@DirtNDiesel ok thank you
Do i need the stinger for a dual battery set up?
No some don't, I did. A stinger is just an 80 amp relay that turns on my second fuse box when the key is on.
Link for the voltage meter?
Here is the link for the kit that I used in the video.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WRJI3BU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Here is what I am using now that I have changed out the switch panel.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072QZPKLG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I like this one better as it fits into a switch mount, thanks for watching!
Did you use a relay with the kit or did you use just a stinger??
I used the Stinger as the relay for the fuse bock.
I plan on buying a 2021 P1000 and like the idea of a second battery. I’ll have to pay someone to install.
All I know about electricity is you can’t see it and it will knock the shit out of you.
LOL but 12v is not that bad. Check out the Hondasxs.com forum and there may be someone in your area can can help you and make it look cleaner than mine. Thanks for watching!
I just use 2 batteries
No isolation. I monitor the voltage during operation. Havent had any issues but now I'm noticing that there is a problem while in operation my power steering and my sound amp fail . Voltage during operation shot upwards around 18 v. There is an intermittent with the regulator I'm assuming at this point. The reason that I do not use isolation is due to the fact that I need the winch to have both batteries for max amps needed to pull . 1 battery just isnt enough. Do you think a car battery would work better or any other opinions ...I'm all ears. About to replace the voltage regulator
I have heard of people putting a full size battery under the driver seat and running bigger wires to it for the acc. There is lots of room under there if you don't have the OEM storage, and you could buy a generic battery mount from Jegs (or a similar place) for the mount.
Going to install a 12v car battery under my seat. This will be isolated and used only for LEDs and auxiliary cigarette lighter/USB charge port(s). Will add a solar trickle charger or recharge via battery charger when in the garage. No need to risk potential electrical gremlins by running colour changing whips or other aesthetic gizmos.
outlender 2003 Bombardier change batterie
Is there a kit out there that does this complete conversion?
Almost, you can get a kit like this one, store.hondasxs.com/products/true-utv-sbi-cm-utv-dual-battery-connect-monitor-kit and then just get the battery, and fuse box. Thanks for stopping by!
@@DirtNDiesel THANK YOU!
also most people do realize that they can do damage by over and under utilizing the volts and amps, you just think they don't maybe your friends do not know that? you make it seem like everyone does not know? maybe a few percent does not know...that is a very small sample size from your stats my friend...
those others who have all the lights are perfectly functional... you however I see cannot absorb that...they are going 65 mph and need to see beyond your normal headlights...it is not you because you do not perform that type of driving... wake up man and get with the program... you do not see to be the brightest bulb out there if you think otherwise???