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Ok, so then why has america gone from lean (70s and before) to obese, at the same time sugar, refined carbs and seed oils were starting to appear in almost all foods?
Because average daily caloric intake is up by almost 1000 calories per day on average. That. Fucking. Simple
Sometimes the answer is how not why. The why is that we're over consuming, the how is that ultra processed foods that have been ENGINEERED to be as palatable as possible for as long as possible contain a lot of calorically dense ingredients. Increased consumption combined with an increase in base calories of the food consumed equals we all got fat in the rapidly industrialising West.
@@biolayne1 So the increase in hearts attacks, diabetes and cancer can be related to an increase in calories on average a 1000 per day? So process food is not the issue but overconsumption is?
@@andreasansotta4974Ffs yes, overeating is the problem how hard is that to understand
@@andreasansotta4974correct, that is what the science has shown over and over
You're only the second Doctor on here who has given the truth about seed oils against others.
Thank you.
the more you learn, the more complicated things are, and then the more you learn beyond that, things get simple again
same shit in my case. For starters I was more CICO flexible-diet guy. Then I came up on low-carbish approach, started being interested in it distantly. I thought that if you want to go insane, start getting know with nutrition subject.
Subsequently I got really hard into a community that said even fruits and vegetables were poisonous. You know, fructose and all that shit. Then, more temperate attitude like Robert Lustig and got into him also greatly.
And now Im ending up at the same point at Layne's channel
Try learning general theory of relativity
if you're interested in this, check out our episode with Dr. Kirten Parakh
If God didn't make it, don't eat it. That's the only rule you need.
Dang. That is actually very true!
A deep dive video on saturated fat would be really beneficial IMO. Breaking down some of the epidemiology, replacement studies with refined/whole carbs etc and also looking at effects of differing sources (meat, dairy, butter, tropical oils etc) 👍
Search ‘David Diamond saturated fats.’ He has several videos exposing the fraud designed to demonize saturated fats.
I suggest that the fats of pastured animals is better than GMO corn fed animals.
No, saturated fat is not bad for you. Yes, you can have too much of it (and most people are having far too much of it). There you go.
@@questionauthority-f6isource: I made it up
4-Hydroxynonenal (HNE) is by far the most investigated aldehydic end-product of oxidative breakdown of membrane n-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids. Its potential involvement in the pathogenesis of atherosclerosis has been corroborated by its consistent detection in both oxidized LDL and fibrotic plaque in humans.
check out our episode with a clinical nutritionist and diabetic podiatric surgeon, he speaks a lot on healthy alternatives: ua-cam.com/video/p3Zc_XZ6EGQ/v-deo.htmlsi=jycef97L9YkGLE6c
I can tell you that the vast majority of fried foods you're getting from a restaurant come from old dark oil that's been reheated many times
YUUUUUUUUUP. Only thrown out every few days. Oil that gets dark very quickly over the course of a single day.
@@SeboHyattevery few days ? Try about maaaybe once a week if your lucky some places I've worked at would get mad if you threw away the fryer oil within 1 month 🤮🤢
@@BigDees19 yeah that's gross. that's really bad.
Yep, another reason I don't like eating out. And I know this is not "nice" but I especially avoid the mom-and-pop restaurants.
But exactly why is this reused, reheated oil bad? Because it's all poly unsaturated oil. The heating (and reheating) causes the oil to go rancid, leading to ROS for those consume it. And ROS leads to chronic inflammation, and a cascade of downstream effects, including auto-immune diseases.
i found myself looking for chocolate covered pretzels that didn’t use seed oils, because seed oils cause inflammation and I realized how ridiculous that was.
As a German I feel obligated to say: chocolate covered Pretzels? What the fitness??!
@@General.Kappadin Sweet & Salty. Don't knock it until you try it. lol
All chocolate contain seed oils. Cocoa butter one of the main ingredients in chocolate is made from the seed, same with cocoa powder
😂
"Chocolate" in close to anything is closer to sugar than chocolate. Fat is for free.
@@General.Kappadin It's the small, thin, crunchy type of pretzel that they dip in chocolate, not the big Bavarian, doughy kind that you dip in mustard or weird cheesy goo.
Great video. I'm convinced hyperpalatable foods with high energy density is the main problem with modern diets.
Sugar, oils and processed carbohydrates are all partly to blame because they have such high energy density and it's hard to control adequate ingestion.
I'm having great results with calorie dilution, loosing a lot of weight without any hunger.
Very intelligent comment. I agree with you 100%
Yes, sir
Yup. It is very easy to over eat foods that are high in sugar/simple carbs, because they are so calorically dense and low volume. It’s okay to eat a little bit of simple carbs, but eat it with fresh vegetables and lean protein so you get full!
Sugar and carbs don’t have high energy density. They are 4 calories per gram. Fat is 9. What you mean to say is that the formulation of foods are hyper palatable these days, which causes overconsumption. You can’t say that carbs are energy dense. Even in instances where they have zero fiber, they’re not energy dense unless they’re packaged with fat.
@@boblangford5514Carbs aren’t calorically dense! By definition they are 4 calories per gram. Fat is 9 calories per gram. It doesn’t make sense to say that carbs are calorie dense. You can say that some carbs are easy to over consume, which usually isn’t even true unless they’re packaged with fat. Go ahead and see how much corn or bowls of white rice you can eat without any fat. Stop talking nonsense by saying they’re calorically dense.
2 points:
1. We don’t know the long term, even generational effects of lots of modern foods but we do know they can have effects (Pottenger 1942). Virtually all studies are very short term, certainly not generational. What’s your take on this line of thinking?
2. Avoiding seed oils basically means avoiding all modern hyper-processed food, which is good.
Exactly. All these followers of Scientism think we know everything from short term studies.
It's absolutely insane you are referencing Pottenger's experiments. I would argue his experiment didn't even have a real takeaway for modern food, but that's beside the bigger point that his experiment was completely debunked.
The food he gave the cats lacked the essential amino acids cats require. The negative health effects were caused solely by malnutrition. Cats can eat cooked meats diets with those amino acids and not experience any health defects.
It's studies like these that assume correlation is causation that causes misunderstanding with seed oils and many things like that. Just because 2 things correlate doesn't mean we should EVER assume 1 causes the other without proper research.
@@Klein-sb1th the point of referencing Pottenger isn’t that his experiment has some special insight, it’s to point out that we don’t know everything and sometimes things can have very long term effects that we won’t be aware of unless we have equally long term data. It’s a caution against the pretense of knowledge.
@@Dram1984
Pottenger's experiments had literally nothing to do with the long-term effects of a modern diet. It is literally a guy that malnourished cats because he lacked the knowledge of basic dietary needs.
This is like saying "Humans got scurvy on pirate ships, so beef jerky must be bad for you"
It is totally unrelated to the actual cause of the scurvy.
You literally referenced Pottenger as an insight into the effects of modern food.
Let me ask you this. Has cardiovascular mortality increased or decreased over the last generations?
You say that seed oils are only an issue when they are heated and cooled many times. Isnt that exactly how they are made?
Ikr
lol, I was just saying this when I read this comment
Exactly, if Layne is unaware of this fact , should tell you something
According to the internet they're either cold pressed, hot pressed, or solvent extracted. two of these methods don't result in high heats and none of them result in heating and cooling them MANY times. Plus he says even then there's not great evidence to support it
Layne is conveniently overlooking this point
The doctors who thought eggs gave everyone heart attacks were real confident about it too.
Sorry you fell for that narrative that someone started. Just like the "it was global cooling!"
Hi, I was in nutrition science decades ago and in general this was not the consensus in research but more in the headlines. There was also not a clear understanding of the role of dietary cholesterol and cholesterol in the body which made it valid for the time as a precaution. It is still also valid for those with hypocholesterolemia and those that have intake patterns outside of a normal dietary range.
I’ll take my chances with Olive Oil, Avocado Oil, Grass-Fed Butter, Ghee, & Coconut Oil over Seed Oils everyday of the week.
Smart! Me too.
seed oils are trash..
Same here . Seed oils are way too processed. Have you seen how they are made .?
Exactly, this dude wants you to eat processed foods, seed oils, and reduce your red meat intake. No thank you
Don’t expect Layne to understand it. Layne was bullied as a kid, it clearly shows in the use of profanity and his childish memes.
Layne, obviously you're an incredibly qualified scientist and researcher however as someone from the comms field I find your ability to communicate such complex information by simultaneously making it relatable, relatively simple, fascinating and entertaining so very impressive. Admittedly I'm far more interested in health and fitness than astrophysics, however your skills as a science communicator remind me of the brilliant Dr Brian Cox who makes people smarter every time he opens his mouth. Thanks as always for cutting through the BS while respecting science.
Thank you
@@biolayne1we thank you 🙏 ! Thank you so much for what you do. This world is loopy as hell and you make it bearable. So thanks for basically holding the world of nutrition on your shoulders 😂 against these 🤡
4-Hydroxynonenal (HNE) is by far the most investigated aldehydic end-product of oxidative breakdown of membrane n-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids. Its potential involvement in the pathogenesis of atherosclerosis has been corroborated by its consistent detection in both oxidized LDL and fibrotic plaque in humans.
I think you would enjoy our episode with a clinical nutritionist and diabetic podiatric surgeon, he speaks a lot on healthy alternatives: ua-cam.com/video/p3Zc_XZ6EGQ/v-deo.htmlsi=jycef97L9YkGLE6c
I pay attention to scientists and dont enjoy practitioners of any bias who pretend to represent the science but are either ignorant or dishonest in favor of their own bias. This guy surely cannot see past his own bias, and sounds foolish to those who seek to truly understand the metabolic science. And he mis-represented the findings of studies involving different diets in order to sell his bias. Truly amazing. Instead he simply criticizes scientists who's findings do not support his bias. Here is real scientist. ua-cam.com/video/L2fSaFnt0FM/v-deo.html This scientist was one time onboard with the High Carb Low Fat diet until the experimental science he and others were involved with produced results opposite of what the dogma in the medical community was telling everyone since the mid-1900's
Also, scientists are not typically activists, but try to understand the truth in general. Practitioners tend to support what they are told. I see that happening here.
Upvoting to counter the hate. Just got in an argument with one of these people and the circles they run around logic is quite amusing.
Were they keto people?
They usually love these oils.
High fat foods is what they go to bed dreaming about.
amusing and yet sad.
Keep guzzling that seed oil bro. More butter and avocado oil for me.
@segasys1339 only time I have seed oils is at restaurants, dont even have any in the house 🤷♂️ not gonna completely avoid eating out because of scare tactics tho
OK sorry I withdraw my dunk :p@@sagebauer1077
Nutrition Made Simple has a good video where he goes into more detail on the overall evidence. But overall, great video and a good analogy with the mutual fund.
Dr Gil is amazing
Thanks saved me a few words of typing.
@@kylemckinney_22 Dr Gil is way too nice. Anti science twits need to be pissed on.
@@kylemckinney_22 i think he is qualified but still i have a hard time listening to someone unhealthy when talking about nutrition
That video was only looking at inflammation though
I showed someone this video and they claimed I was "appealing to authority" for the fact that I would rather listen to Layne rather than the random commenters below his video.
I find it pretty funny the length some people will go to try and not listen to any fact or opinion. No, I'm not appealing to authority, I'm citing my sources and listening to experienced people..
IMO the main issue is that it's a lot more entertaining and engaging (and honestly potentially easier for people to comply with) to tell people that certain foods MUST be avoided at all costs, then to tell them a nuanced idea that some broad categories of food should be eaten frequently and some foods should be eaten less frequently. The latter is a pretty healthy way of eating but less attention-grabbing
Boring truth: seed oils are fine, but you probably eat too much of them.
Salacious lie: seed oils burned our crops, poisoned our water supply, and spread a plague unto our housed!
You bring up a very good point -- it's easy to imagine why idiots are more attracted to one of these two narratives, against all evidence. It makes them feel woke.
Thinking about being a human randomized control trial for Halloween just so I can yell it when people ask what I am. 😂
I'd really like to see you talk with Dr Mike Israetel and Thomas Delauer about this specifically. I watch content from both, and I do feel like there's a lot of difference in the takeaway I walk out with, and there's probably a really important total conversation that you should all have in one video, together, with data, and conclusions and agreements/disagreements.
It does seem like everyone is kind of on the same page, but the packaging makes it seem like everyone is going in different directions.
Please do a collab specifically about this one.
Yes, it would be nice if multiple collaborators got in on these kind of videos,. I would include Dr Mark hyman, Dr Peter attia, and Dr Rhonda Patrick into the mix
I would love this. Great idea
Ironically, YOUR BEST video to date. I have a UCLA Bio Degree and sometimes leave idiotic messages just to amuse myself. The Paul Salad*ino impersonation should get you an Emmy. Great info buddy.
Cool thanks. Foods made almost entirely of refined grains, seed oils and sugar are some of my favorites. I will continue to purchase and consume them while controlling my daily calorie intake and getting lots of exercise.
Seed oils are used in everything which causes everything to be entirely way more dense. You also brought up seed oils are bad in excess but they are used in absolutely everything when you go out to eat, or get snacks
They aren't used in everything, not even close. Yes, they are used in a lot of restaurant food, but I think that's part of the point; should we be going out to eat all the time? (no)
Any prepared food item basically yeah. Mayonnaise, FIRST ingredient is a seed oil. Coffee creamers too.
@@strategicsage7694 probably 90 percent of processed foods contain seed oils unfortunately
If you are eating good whole foods most of the time within your caloric needs, then it will make no difference. You can't eat donuts and fries all day and say they are in "everything".
@@turntablesrockmyworld9315 i think you missed the point lol.
You're a rare voice of reason amidst all the confusion and fear mongering Layne. Keep doing what you're doing, it's helpful.
Not really, he's prone to calling many other people phonies and being on his high horse. Look how he used to treat Thomas Delauer and the amount of time it took for them to collab because Layne refused to think of him as someone trying to seriously learn more. Layne was clearly the prideful one in that scenario.
Layne definitely knows a lot and is a voice to listen to in order to learn, but he's not the arbiter of truth. I think it's also valid to be skeptical of anyone who claims that all they do is "data over dogma".
It's from another field, but there's a linguist and ancient historian scholar called Dan McLellan, who claims to be the opposite of dogmatic, yet when you see his content up close, his "data" tends to line up with his political opinions and biases that he refuses to acknowledge. I think Layne is better than that, but *nobody* is free from bias.
@@carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255 No one person is the arbiter of truth and Layne has definitely been overly combative in the past, I agree. Still, his way of cutting through the social media BS and food disorder gurus that are running rampant right now is a something that is sorely needed. Anyone who has clicked on a few diet videos is getting bombarded with content that makes you afraid of eating pretty much anything at all, regardless of whether or not it has a detrimental effect on you. The hyper-fixation on out-of-context mechanisms on a cellular level is dangerous and Layne's stock analogy is spot on.
@@TC-by3ilI agree - many of the spread information is dangerous. A healthy diet and lifestyle is the key to disease prevention. And it is great when people are willing to invest their time and resources, researching what to do and eat best and unfortunately end up on a video of one of these fearmongering individuals that spread misinformation.
I mean people in the comments are writing that the stoped prescription medications and are proud of rejecting their advice on medication and diet, believing the diet will fix all their medical problems.
This is madness, and there needs to be some reasonable creators in the area of nutrition and fittness on UA-cam.
It is seed oil supporters that are fear mongering people.
Total calories consumed per capita in Japan have DECREASED since the 1960's. Sugar per capita has DECREASED in Japan since the mid 80's. Diabetes, obesity and CVD have all skyrocketed in that time, so what could it be? Use of seed oils has skyrocket in that time from average 90 cals per person per day in the 1960's to 400 calories today. Today in Japan the average diet is 1,850 calories down from 2,837 in the 1940's so they are now getting 22% of calories from seed oils compared to 3% in the 1940s. This is DAMNING.
Also, you are switching subject by pivoting away from seed oils to saturated fat. Stick to the topic, seed oil use has skyrocket in EVERY developed country where CVD/diabetes and cancer has increased dramatically.
Now look at the US. Sugar per capita has DECREASED in the last 30 years. Obesity and seed oils have continued to skyrocket.
Now look at Australia, sugar has been DECREASING since the 1960s but obesity and seed oil use has been skyrocketing there.
Now look at China, sugar hasn't moved much at all in the past 100 years but the entire population switched from using animal fats to seed oils to cook three meals a day (virtually 100% switched from animal fats to seed oils)....and disease and obesity has skyrocketed there.
Literally EVERYWHERE you look you see skyrocketing disease and obesity when use of seed oils increases, usually in tandem with declining animal fats.
See how much you have to type, creating all of these copes, instead of posting EVIDENCE? What do randomized control trials show? They show you people are crying over nothing. The same people crying about seed oils, are fine with gallons of animal fats a day.
@@vashlash6870 so it has to be a lab in order to be proven to you? just look at how Americans ate in the 1960's and how skinny they were, compared to Americans in the 80's. Layne wants to blame the excess calories, and people becoming more sedentary (which isn't true), when there's been a massive switch in the ingredients used, not the caloric intake. In the Minnesota starvation experiment the subjects were started at 3,200 calories, which was considered the average caloric intake for a 150lb man, then they slowly reduced it over time to 1,500 and they became emaciated and their organs shrank. Point being, the average intake was HIGHER in the 1960's than todays 2,000 calorie diet. Just go watch a video on how seed oils are concentrated and then decolorized and de-scented, tell me that's natural. You don't think Layne was probably paid off by the seed oil companies to make this sort of video? You really think he's putting out this sort of video just to 'disprove' the carnivore camp?
your assumptions are exactly opposite, asians are eating more saturated fat today than ever, their previous diet had less animal products and has increased in animal products since the 1960s.
Care to add reference to measurement of caloric intake in japan over a period of time?
@@mattvdhyou clearly don't understand how, or why, science works. Appeal to naturalism; check. Baseless accusations of corruption and collusion with "Big Seed Oil"; check. All to protect your cozy narratives.
Between you and Dr. Mike I feel like a walking encyclopedia of knowledge. Thank you.
Need their collab.
For real can we get Layne to do an RP workout with Mike while they both spend the entire time talking shit about all the nonsense out there?
@@GreenPancakes It's probably an exclusive on Mike's OnlyFans
Tbh, I love Dr. Mike, but he falls into BS quite a bit when it comes to nutrition
Same! Literally the top 2 evidence-based influencers for training and nutrition
Thank you for your sanity!
I am totally on board to not get dragged from biased health influencer and “studies “ that support their theories. I can feel your frustration. As Italian I still don’t use any seed oil, but it’s just culture I guess. Back home we fry (very little) in lard or peanut oil (last 20 years) and we use mostly extra virgin olive for everything else, little butter here and there. Along with eating a veggies, fruit and grains rich whole foods omnivore diet . I moved to Canada in my 30’s and the shock I got from seeing how much more ill people compare to Italy it’s impossible to erase. Will never abandon my Mediterranean lifestyle ❤😂
Ciao Marta, Italian here living now in the US for the past 30 yrs ( moved in my mid 20s to the US). I completely share your sentiment and observation.
Oh you’ve done it now. You’ve angered the plant hating “carnivores”
I have a feeling they are always angry😂.
I’m a carnivore and I am no fan of plants or seed oils for that matter, but I liked this video. Ive never found the arguments against seed oils very compelling, but I stay away from them anyway because they were part of the problem back in my overweight days. I eat the way I eat because I can adhere to it and thus keep the weight off and progress toward my fitness goals.
You forgot to hyphenate "plant hating." It should be "plant-hating."
@@rontiemens2553Same here. I don't add oils to foods either but neither do I add butter or other animal fats. I only eat fat that naturally comes with meat and eggs
Layne norton is a crash dummy advocating eating hydrogenated seed oils, i run laps around you mfs eating canola oil
I still think olive oil is better than sunflower oil.
I know it is
Well olive oil is not "seed oil" .. cause it's made from the pulp, not the seed.
And yes, it's the best oil out there.
i think the best argument against seed oils is that theyre not "good for you" as in, theyre mostly empty calories, especially the hyper deodorized refined stuff, while stuff like olive oil and avocado oil is packed with goodness, from beta carotenes to anti oxidants etc. and also.. it just tastes way better. Seriously, theres a reason no one drizzles canola oil on stuff, it tastes like nothing.
When I cut out seed oils and went on a high saturated fat keto diet, my C-reactive protein level tripled and LDL shot through the roof. Fortunately I was only on it for a short time bc it's a miserable way to eat and not sustainable. Additionally, healthy cell membranes and mitochondrial function absolutely require unoxidized Linoleic Acid. Too much saturated fat incorporated into membranes make them stiff. You'll never hear me advocating against unoxidized PUFAs or MUFAs.
How long were you on keto? if you were never fat adapted, your body might have been going through metabolic hell trying to adapt and re adapt from consuming low carbs
@@FutureLaughHis comment was not about fat adaptation. The skyrocketed ldl doesn't magically go down when you become so called "fat adapted".
@@FutureLaugh fAt aDapTeD
Similar experience here. I’m a lean, active 40y female and after a calorie controlled period of “ketovore”, my LDL DOUBLED and my Trigs increased. I changed my tracker settings back to “balanced” and in 7 days, my TC dropped 112 points. Fasting BG exactly the same and far more stable during the day.
I shall continue with my 2 second Pam spray in my non-stick pan.
You may be fine with PUFAs, but where do you stand on FUPAs?
You discuss replacing saturated fats with Seed Oil, but I think most (looking to be healthy) would be more interested in the advantages of replacing Seed Oils with Olive , Avocado oils (higher in Mono than Poly or Sat fats) and what control studies show are the advantages of that substitution.
Thanks for all you do !!!
This
Studies suggest polyunsaturated fat might be even better than monounsaturated fat regarding the prevention of CVD. Regarding inflammation there is no difference or at least the studies didn’t seem to find any. I use Olive oil mainly because I love the tase but I don’t mind seed oils either.
There are not very many studies on monounsaturated fats for some reason. Probably just lack of interest.
I personally want to keep my saturated fat intake as low as possible while keeping my omega 3,6,9 as high as possible so I can get the most nutrients out of the calories from the fat. Olive oil is a good option but I also like my canola oil
I did that and biggest thing I've noticed is that I've gone the entire year without getting sunburned. Polyunsaturated acids oxidize more easily that saturated or mono when exposed to UV and that oxidation of the fatty acids in your skin is what causes sunburn (and possibly cancer.)
Why are there more quality studies on polyunsaturated fats than of monounsaturated fats?
Keeping it real and educating. Calling out the cherry-picking fear creators haunting this industry. Using analogies to help understand tactics.
Imagine describing people who advocate a healthy and natural diet that has been followed by humans since the beginning of time as “haunting the industry”, because they don’t consume bottles of Wesson “vegetable oil“
Yeah a random guy who might make 40k in UA-cam advertising in 3 years is who we have to worry about. Not the food industry that puts seed oils on 95% of all US products. This all started in the 1900s when they realized they can press cotton seed and make oil. This was at industrial factories and moved to food. It’s a money game. Human beings aren’t supposed to eat oils from seeds. It’s not healthy. You’re being played like a fiddle. A random UA-cam doc isn’t who you should be scared of 😂😂😂😂
@@chevelleman88it’s wild and this guy won’t even reply to your comment because he’s in an echo chamber
It's not just influencers. I'm quite literally a nobody on youtube and I can vouch for the effectiveness of removing seed oils from diet.
I'm quite content with my personal knowledge and will simply wait for the science to catch up with my experience. I know I'm not alone, but even if I was: I'd be totally fine with that.
Substitute "seed oil" for toilet paper.
I'm pretty sure we could eat toilet paper, and it would have a net neutral impact on our physiology. Mix it into our mashed potatoes and soups.
Let's say everyone starts doing this, And it starts comprising 30% of human intake. Intake which COULD be occupied with nutrient dense, protein rich food.
Then one day, after you realize while you feel full after you eat, you're starting to develope deficiencies. Skin starts breaking out. You're not poopin' right, and your breath smells like Charmin.
You take to the Internet to tell everyone you're DONE eating toilet paper! It's not natural, and by replacing it with whole foods, your symptoms have improved.
Suddenly, pro-toliet paper influencers start attacking you as a "grifter" for advocating what can only be described as more species appropriate diet.
That's where we are.
At BEST seed oils are nutrient filler, even by Layne's own argument. At worst we're consuming excess amounts of linoleic acid and Omega 6s, not to mention an overabundance of calories in the way of FAT.
I'd rather eat toilet paper.
Ever since I got my George Foreman 8 in 1 toaster oven, I haven’t had the need to use any added fats.
That's very good, but remember when someone else prepares any food that you eat outside the home, it's likely full of seed oils.
Thanks for the comment, George!
@@Really10801or if you eat meat a lot of animal fat which is far worse for your body
How much money are you getting from foreman for saying this
@@danielballabani1232 lol!
Excellent video thank you for being evidence based. Couldn’t agree more. Noticed these same sorts of obnoxious unsubstantiated claims on social media. Keep it up Layne.
Ok, and do we have zero issues with the process those refined oils are produced? I find them bad by nature.
I'd say it depends on what you mean by "bad". Bad for you? Well, as stated in the video: not necessarily, saturated fat seems to be more of an issue. Bad for environment, pollution etc? Perhaps, but that's not something that the video addresses. Here we're purely looking at the health impacts of them.
@@kkrizzz I speak about REFINED oils. If you have to use chemicals to make a product stable, it doesn't seem right to me. We can take jus Hexane alone. I don't think this experiment is going to be beneficial in a long term. And it is very hard to define issues with saturated fats as the refined oils are everywhere, so it is not easy to do a proper RCT research in a long run. Epidemiology is better than nothing but far from conclusive.
Yes the process of making these oils is disgusting. I will not eat them anymore xxx
@@ziilux84They use hexane to extract the fats, and recover the hexane by boiling it off.
@@genericusername8337 high heat is definitely beneficial to the end product, right?
When I eat seed oils, my gut inflammation kicks into full gear and I’m miserable. When I cook things in beef tallow, butter, EVOO, I feel amazing. Been living with Crohn’s for about a decade now and eliminating carbs and seed oils from my diet has helped me stop taking weekly injections. Haven’t felt this good in years and I finally have my life back just by changing my diet. In the process I’ve lost a lot of weight too. Doctor Robert Lustig, right here on UA-cam, has a lot of insightful information about how unsaturated fats chemically change when under extreme heat and pressure alone, which is what every seed oil needs to go through to become “edible”. He breaks down the exact science of why it occurs and how it negatively affects your body. Labeling natural saturated fats as unhealthy, the fat that oxidizes the slowest by far, has been one of the biggest metabolic mistakes doctors around the world have pushed.
This is exactly why I’m watching this video. I recently started eating seed oils again and I noticed I feel so heavy and gross after. I wonder why it affects some people like that if the studies don’t show it having a negative effect. I didn’t know the food had seed oils in it but after feeling crappy I asked and it turns out they cook with seed oils.
Is there a chance that you were eating less calories when you swapped seed oils and carbs for saturated fat and therefore you lowered inflammation because losing fat does that?
@@JoshYarlett I did not alter how much I was eating, just what I was eating. It’s incredible how bad I feel after eating things cooked in seed oils. It’s like going from 0 to 100. My stomach begins to cramp the next day, my heartburn instantly comes back, and my 💩 is loose and/or diarrhea - which is a clear sign of intestinal inflammation
@@rg975 I honestly don’t know what that could be but I’m not an expert. I guess seed oils just don’t agree with your system in which case then yeah probably limit them
the gut is directly linked to your mental health, I think you would enjoy our episode with a clinical nutritionist and diabetic podiatric surgeon, he speaks a lot on healthy alternatives: ua-cam.com/video/p3Zc_XZ6EGQ/v-deo.htmlsi=jycef97L9YkGLE6c
Layne and Gil are my goto's for real nutritional info. They are a breath of fresh air in the sometimes cesspool of YT for nutrition/diet facts.
love Dr. Gil!
I love how they are complete opposites in so many ways yet say the exact same things in their videos because they actually follow the science.
what makes them the complete opposite? @@robinmorris8201
Recent podcast with Gil and Simon Hill you might be interested in.
yes sir!! thanks @@limitisillusion7
Layne-I am a 65 yr old retired RN, I got sucked into the low carb world several years ago, and all their nonsense. I heard you and also Dr. Nadolsky on a couple of their shows. Both of you made me start questioning the influencers in the low carb’s world accuracy and validity especially their honestly. At this point I started taking additional biology classes, I now have an additional 46 hrs of biology classes . The pandemic started and these same people used their same tactics regarding the pandemic and vaccines. They are just contrarians. They aren’t serious people. You cannot trust them with anything. You are absolutely correct-they cherry pick and distort. They commit so many logical fallacies. The dust wars are tough. It’s sad because it’s actually so simple-there’s really no tricks available. I appreciate everything you do!
I am concerned about the trace amounts of hexane in processed seed oils. Hexane is an industrial solvent and even trace amounts should not be tolerated. Double-blind trials do not help detect problems which occur when you eat trace amounts of toxins for decades. I believe that moderate amounts of ghee and olive oil are much better options.
Exactly, I don't believe any of those So called clinical trials. None of them are conducted for decades. Most of them are done for months. You can be totally fine with KFC and McDonald's for several months. 😂 It is so simple. But people don't get it. You shouldn't wait for clinical trial to stop eating refined oil and sugar. There are better options anyway.
Great video. But speaking on the saturated fat portion of this video, the Journal of American College of Cardiology wrote in a study in August of 2020: “Several foods relatively rich in SFAs, such as whole-fat dairy, dark chocolate, and unprocessed meat, are not associated with increased CVD or diabetes risk. There is no robust evidence that current population-wide arbitrary upper limits on saturated fat consumption in the United States will prevent CVD or reduce mortality.” Thoughts?
NutritionMadeSimple, an MD and PhD in nutrition science, discusses saturated fats in detail and the range of good to bad sat fats specifically chocolate, dairy all the way to beef fat here: ua-cam.com/video/mBFe1QattAU/v-deo.html
Yes. So many people on here saying, 'Yeah, this 'seed oil is bad' is just nonsense', will readily believe that 'saturated fat is bad for you' when study after study shows no correlation between saturated fat and heart disease. Apparently to Layne and other gullible people, canola oil is healthier for you than saturated fat found naturally in our meat and foods. Sounds like they are still brainwashed to me. The last 40 years has shown that this advice has made us sicker and fatter. Not sure why Layne seems to think this is scientifically sound nutritional advice.
Quite simple. Foods are different, in part because of the varying fatty acid composition in those foods, and the other chemicals they contain that interact with them. Try looking up the food matrix effect.
@@anglicantian Quite simple. Science of nutrition is bs
I think you would enjoy our episode with a clinical nutritionist and diabetic podiatric surgeon, he speaks a lot on healthy alternatives: ua-cam.com/video/p3Zc_XZ6EGQ/v-deo.htmlsi=jycef97L9YkGLE6c
I see the twitter back & forths all the time and I will say, this is def a good video breaking things down with discrete points
Excellent appraisal of the poly vs saturated fat evidence. Everything in moderation besides smoking.
And trans fats which are artificial
No hate! Love the clear communication. Thx for cutting the crap. It’s scary when Drs of any type (Gundry, Saladino, Berg) become money hungry influencers. Makes me sick.
Nice one - thanks for crunching through the papers so that I don’t have to… PS - I hope this one does really well so that you can afford a bigger T-shirt 😉💪🏻
Yes, be lazy and simply take his word for it.
@zerrodefex Thanks for the kindly comment - you may notice he lists his references, so that I do not have to take HIS word for it... twit.
If he truly 'crunched through the papers' he would see that study after study debunks his views on saturated fat. There is no correlation between saturated fat and heart disease or cardiac events. This has been born out by multiple studies and evaluation and debunking of studies that said there was a causation. Layne is not the 'be all, end all' of nutritional science. There are just as many qualified individuals in his field who are saying the exact opposite of Layne regarding seed oils and saturated fat. And they have the studies to back up their information as well. We must discern and sift, compare and contrast.
@@guibox3 I have atherosclerosis, the conflicting research does my head in 🤯 but I do appreciate that he gives links to his sources. I would like to hear what is @biolayne1 opinion on the work of Prof Tim Noakes et al.
@@guibox3 can you simply post the studies instead of posting a long comment
Science is flawed, despite being helpful. Ultimately, I like to focus on personal experience. When I follow Dr Saladino’s animal based diet, the gut problems (diarrhoea) and psoriatic arthritis that I have experienced for decades completely goes away. I have been following Dr Saladino‘s diet for two years now, and it has transformed my life. I am a medical doctor, and medical science with its RCTs simply provided me one antiarthritic drug after another, which would provide relief for some months to years before eventually fading away. I am now resistant to just about every drug on the market, but there is no sign of Dr Saladino‘s diet stopping working for me. One personal observation I have made about the mechanism of action is that when my gut health improves my arthritis likewise improves, and my gut health is so much better on Dr Saladino‘s diet. I’m not clear which part of the diet helps, but it is without question that it works for me.
I eat an animal based diet because I had crippling RA and now I have no inflammation and no pain now. It's not for everyone, but it was a miracle for me.
No mention of omega-6 to Omega-3. No mention of seed oils originally being used for industrial machines. No mention of how diabetes was not as prominent before seed oils before the 1950s. The nuance nutrition science UA-camrs will have plenty to discuss after this video. However this video was a good move for the algorithm to shake things up.
All of which is rhetoric like story telling. Rational people don't care about that. They care about outcome data. So what actually happens.
Love the mutual fund analogy. Very helpful info as always
So i don't out right ban seed oils...i just choose olive oil and avacado oil because they are healthier....if i am given tge option between a product that has olive oil or seed oil i choose the olive oil.
I appreciate the evidence based approach.
BUT NOW I CAN'T STAND SHIRTLESS IN THE GROCERY STORE IF THE SEED OILS AREN'T THE DEVIL
I don’t like or hate Paul but I have seen a couple of videos of him doing that and I think is massively cringe.
I saw one particular video where he was doing it screaming like a lunatic and you clearly see a lady in the background wanting to go down the isle look scared and take off in the other direction.
@@Ryan_DeWitt His ranting in stores (especially shirtless) bug me bad.
This guy and Nutrition Made Simple are telling the truth!
Yes. Nutrionmadesimple is awesome. He communicates nuances well too. He name checked Layne also.
Travesty of media why Saladino’s carnivore diet goes viral and quality science channels like these guys don’t as much.
I already knew all this thanks to Gil (Nutrition Made Simple), but glad to see Layne stick to the evidence!
Gil works for an organization that’s only goal is to promote veganism, of course he’s gonna say seed oils are safe , veganism can’t be pushed worldwide with everyone using seed oils.
Gil is da man! He also angers people because he won’t condemn “seed oils” because the evidence just is there.
As a biochemist who had to study metabolism and investigated the refining methods of seed oils to educate myself on the matter, I can confirm that these anti-science conspiracy theories in the comment section are worse for my health than the jug of canola oil I sear all my meat and vegetables in.
Here for the comments section 🍿
I have a sincere question. Are the health benefits of carnivore diet coming STRICTLY from eliminating potential triggers? Why are people experiencing life changing symptom relief (gut issues, mental clariry, joint pain, skin health, and increased energy)? If elimination diet is so powerful and healing, why is it that only carnivore diet is known to be effective? I understand that studies are important, but I have witnessed people and read thousands of anecdotal storires of the benefits and i am very confused. Also, do you think that the USDA guideline on the ratio of macronutrients are health promoting and that as long as we eat less calories then we would be healthy?
There are no benefits of the carnivore diet unless you are in the micro percentage of people with crazy food allergies.
Probably cause proccessed foods are bad, and if its just meat that isn't heavily processed yes they will be healthier than those who do eat crappy processed meats but those who are whole food plant based are healthier than non processed meat eaters🤷♀️...
Seed oils are extracted with hexane.
It is recommended that you wear protective gloves, safety goggles, protective clothing and breathing protection when working with the chemical. Do not smoke, drink, or eat when exposed to hexane.
So, this is a logical fallacy called "poisoning the well." Here is example of why it's silly: water in high amounts is dangerous, in that people often drown in it, but that doesn't mean that if you stop drinking water you will be healthier.
Overconsuming saturated fats will affect your health long before the the one roughly millionth of one milligram of hexane that *might* be left over in an entire kilogram of oil.
...or buy cold-pressed oil, if it bothers you.
Just one of about 18 steps, yeah☠️
I feel the same way
This guy does nothing more in these videos than parrot "THE SCIENCE" with an arrogant, superior, know it all, demeanor which in the end may or may not be accurate.
The issue with these seed oils debunking video is they approach it in narrow one sided view (same with the Nutrition Made Simple video). This video doesn't even talk about the subject in question, but wholly about why saturated fat and too much calories are bad.
It baffles me how chiropractors Eric Berg and Sten Ekberg have over 11 million and 3 million subscribers, respectively, and you have just shy of 350 thousand, yet your knowledge is far superior to theirs. That aside, I appreciate your setting the record straight.
Because Layne doesn't create videos like 'Drink this to cure your stage 4 cancer' or 'Avoid sugar for 30 days to reduce inflammation and change your life'
@@SurfyStoriesI suppose you're right. The "quick fix" headlines sell better.
@@chrisk1948 What are you talking about? Layne has one of the most 'quick fix' approach ever. Eat less move more is times simpler and dumber than anything those guys advocate for, with biochemistry laid out and not cheap studies
I often wondered why my roommate was so overweight when he eats less than me. I just realised he cooks everything in cooking butter and oils. Now it makes sense.
No it doesn't. You just like good news about your bad habits.
I only use butter & tallow and yet I'm rail thin. Animal fats were used almost exclusively before the 1920s. Yet obesity rates are skyrocketing after Crisco and canola oil have been introduced..
Sesame seed oil is the oldest cooking seed oil and goes back 10,000 years and it reduces inflammation in multiple studies. Most seed oils are over processed and trash but some are beneficial. I still rather have olive oil and grass fed butter/ghee. They also go back 10,000 years
"Grass fed butter" is the grass somehow chemically altering the saturated fats?
@@phanomtaxskibididoodoo The cow the milk or cream was from ate grass is what hes saying
@@forward2000 Yeah but how would grass fed butter be chemically different than grain fed butter?
@@phanomtaxskibididoodoograss fed beef has a better proportion of omega 6 vs omega 3
@@HeraldofNurgle7 We're specifically talking about butter.
The issues with seed oils isn’t just about weight, it’s about overall health.
Yeah. I'm trying to avoid tings that are overly processed. I learned I have a lot of inflammation and most likely an autoimmune disorder by now and I don't eat sugar and fried foods,. But seed oil is in everything - every other health food even. I was informed to avoid processed foods.
@@catherinewylie6959just because something is processed does not mean it’s inherently bad.
@@user-rf2fv6tf1p Yes. I understand that. I mean in general - the real crap stuff out there . As well, a lot of health foods are hard on my stomach - like those Macro bars. I had a stomach infection and my immune system over responded to it, and I can't eat a lot of things now even months later.
What about the increase in omega 6 ?
Just take copious amount of omega 3 trust me bro.
Lots of emphasis about replacing saturated with polyunsaturated. I believe a less dramatic criticism of seed oils is that it's better to use oils like olive and avocado oils because they have lower omega 6 to omega 3 ratios, and that excess omega 6 can cause inflammation.
Like Layne said in the video, you’re focussing on a single mechanism rather than outcomes which show no problem.
I love how in the study used at 6:33 saturated fat is lumped in with trans fat like theyre similar at all
Layne, I go back and forth on this. You have to take a better look at these studies to measure exactly how much PUFA people were consuming in these randomized trials and match it up to the real world consumption. Yes, energy toxicity agreed, but is there more to it? Remember the TRANS FAT was undeniably toxic and atherogenic (finally banned by USDA Jan 2020). Wouldn't it just make better sense to eat the foods that these oils come from rather than extracting the oils through a scrubbing process involving chemical and heat denaturants which can oxidize the myriad of unsaturated bonds in the fatty acid molecule (with a side product of toxic aldehydes)? In essence, isn't that what was done intentionally by hydrogenating the TRANS FAT? Manufacturers know there is truth to what I'm saying, otherwise, why would they be going to lengths to sell the "expeller pressed" oils if science was on their side with previous methods? The verdict to me is still hanging. I would counsel people to as much as possible stick to a whole foods diet, avoiding overly processed foods.
All the same I'd rather not put anything in my stomach that has been processed with bleach, caustic soda, and anti odour chemicals which is how most seed oils are made.
Yes exactly. The way these oils are processed is a concern. I wont eat them anymore . People should do their own research into how they are made .
They are often much better if they are labeled expeller and/or cold pressed.
"Caustic" soda btw, can just be things like washing soda, which is just baking soda heated to convert it into a higher pH substance. I sometimes put a pinch of washing soda in my home's water when drinking it, because it is well water that is acidic. Doesn't cause any health issues, though I suppose if you consumed enough, you would overload on sodium.
Higher pH substances are sometimes used on plant oils/fats because they help to separate the glycerin from said oil and/or emulsify the oil some.
Solvents like hexane are sometimes used for different reasons, but the good thing about these is that they evaporate very fast at lower temps and easily compared to most other substances which is why it is used for this, and for extraction, purposes. Chances of any actual hexane residue in properly processed foods is actually quite low. And if there were any trace amounts, if you put it on a heated pan or the like, it will evaporate out of the oil in a flash.
Having some moderate understanding/knowledge of material sciences and physics is very helpful in navigating the sea of distorted, mis/dis-information, ignorance, and/or scare mongering out there.
I appreciate the break down with emphasis on randomized clinical control trials. I’m curious how the comparison looks with omega 3 rich cooking oils like Avocado or macadamia oil vs PUFA or Saturated fats. The latter 2 are not the only cooking oil options.
Yeah. It’s good to know it’s not the French fries giving me heart disease and that they’re actually healthy.
Yeah I'm disappointed that he didn't go over the full spectrum of oils. The data is clear that a magnetic 3, 7, and 9 do benefit health far beyond other oils. However, even too much omega-3 can begin to be detrimental.
@shiftgood It’s the fact you’re eating an unreasonable amount of French fries, not the fries themselves. But of course let’s scapegoat instead of looking at ourselves. That’s easier.
What about the negative impact on testosterone production in men?
Wow. This is exactly what my gut feeling has been telling me my entire life.
Thanks for the great information. 👍🏻❤️
Since I cut out vegetable oils (rapeseed and sunflower) and switched them for butter and extra virgin oils I’m much healthier.
Stop you can't just eat natural food and be healthy noooo
Cutting out seed oils means cutting out 99% of ultraprocessed food, doesn't mean seed oils themselves are bad
@@qweee3913 seed oils are ultraprocessed. Do some research!
Since I cut out butter I was able to get leaner and be healthyer canola oil is my main cooking oil
@@qweee3913But you can’t say seed oils don’t contribute, either.
I’m open to your best hypothesis how rancid, denatured, and oxidized seed oils (processed at very high temperature) are healthy for humans given they were never in the human diet until just over 100 years ago (Crisco).
BTW, Udo Erasmus does produce seed oils in a proper manner and I have a bottle vacuum sealed in my fridge right now.
But I would never heat it and damage it.
Blinded by adherence to scientism, one can easily overlook inferences about appropriate human diet. The “final word” studies referenced here only address a narrow look at PUFAs vs saturated fat. There are numerous other studies about other aspects of consuming superphysiological doses of PUFA from suboptimal food sources like seeds, especially in regards to their breakdown products.
Or, you could draw inference from simple observation of nature and our understanding of human evolution to conclude that PUFAs as processed by industry and consumed by humans and pets are more than likely problematic for mammalian metabolism beyond “energy toxicity”.
Would you rather be blinded by "adherence to scientism" or misleading intuition?
@@katobyteshow is all of human history misguided intuition?
I understand most seed oils are heated and reheated multiple times in the deoderizing and bleaching processes, wouldnt they already be oxidized before you cook with them?
Honestly, what I do is compare the appearance of whoever eats seed oils to a person who doesn’t, and who looks healthier…
what have you found lol
Very scientific 👍🏻
bobby, from flav city's head just exploded.
Not me pouring extra sesame seed oil in my stir fry tonight
I've dived into a few studies, mainly meta-analyses, that I've seen referenced in videos like this which take the anti-saturated fat (mainstream) PoV. Somehow they never quite check out. For example, you see studies which indicated lower cardiovascular events with lower saturated fat, BUT in the fine print you discover that all-cause mortality was not improved. And for example, in the "sat fat increases lung cancer" study linked in this video description, the fine print showed that sat fat consumers who never smoked did not have have statistically significant increase in lung cancer. Every single study I've looked at has major holes in it like that. So I'll stay open and keep researching. But I'm not convinced of the mainstream PoV that completely novel industrialised oils are magically better for us than ancestral diets. There is a LOT of money from industry pushing this, from both big agra and pharma, so the burden of proof rests with them and I'm not convinced it's there.
The reason mortality is very often not reduced is very simple: it takes many years to die from a bad diet. Smoking also doesn’t increase mortality if you study it for just a year or two. This is entirely expected.
The acid e is clear and quality meta analyses of RCTs and cohort studies show a clear pattern: replacing sat fats with PUFAs reduces CVD. It’s that simple.
@@RaveyDaveyStrong words. Why does Big Processed Plant Foods conduct many times the studies than the govt? To lose money? How long does it take to get a heart attack from a bad diet?
@@RaveyDavey that's not what is showing up in these studies. What is showing up is increase in cv events but decrease in cancer. Eat seed oils get cancer, eat sat fats get CVD. That's how total mortality seems to even out. However the main confounding factor is that sat fats have been demonised for 70 years so most people who eat more of them are lackadaisical about their other health habits, such as exercise, alcohol, sleep patterns etc.
Seems Layne is the type of guy that only reads the abstract and thinks he is the smartest guy in the room.
Was checking the studies he referenced and noticed questionable research methods relative to Layne’s claims.
For example, in “Overeating Saturated Fat Promotes Fatty Liver and Ceramides Compared With Polyunsaturated Fat: A Randomized Trial”, they used palm oil (50% saturated) as saturated fat and sunflower oil as PUFA, both are highly industrially processed vegetable oil that gives no context as to the comparison between natural saturated fat in animals vs processed seed oil.
Nobody these days eats an 'ancestral diet'. That's not an option that's even on the table, literally.
Why does myself and my family no longer sun burn sun when we cut out seed oils?
Because it's winter and you don't go outside.
@@tresero2862 oh wow proof of your intelligence. I am in awe of your brilliant mind.
@@AliceFarmer-bg4dw Kind of like you with your study of N:1 being proof that all the studies are wrong and you are right. Glass house and all.
australian here, we burn in the sun and i'm very much an old fashiioned hippy who hates toxic sunscreens (but i will use zinc). I too avoid seed oils but dont think this will change anything when i choose to expose myself to our harsh sun.
@@RandoMuser-h1o Hum. Hot Texas weather here. Used to burn red red burn within a few hours of working in sun and had to use sunscreen all the time. Now zero seed oils and rarely burn. Same with my family. So N of 5 is proven here.
if you're saying it's only personal responsibility that's lacking, you will have to explain how personal responsibility has decreased so rapidly. And interestingly enough, it's happened mostly in red states. Both by state, and individually, even when controlling for age, Republicans are more likely to be overweight than Democrats. I'm not saying it has anything to do with seed oil, but the calorie dense, nutrient poor food that is easily available and heavily advertised is likely much of the problem. Yes if you replace sugar for an equal calorie amount of broccoli you'll get just as fat, but most people find it a lot easier to overeat sugar than broccoli. In some ways you're right - it is about personal responsibility - I'm under 15% body fat, and I got here by taking responsibility for it and working at it, but the odds have never been more stacked against the average person. I've made health and wellness an obsession for the past several years. 50 years ago, most people were reasonably slim and healthy just by default. They didn't have to work at it.
No one is against PUFAs. It’s the fact that seed oils or oils in general are PROCESSED. It’s no different than eating straight syrup vs fruit or whole unrefined carbs vs white bread. A balanced whole food diet will do you wonders.
When I mainly eat meat my weight is always stable. When I do pasta and bread I can become overweight within a month.
Yeah, bread & pasta are tasty as shit
Calories
Its extremely difficult to gain fat eating a high protein, low fat, low carb diet.
I think you would enjoy our episode with a clinical nutritionist and diabetic podiatric surgeon, he speaks a lot about why gluten in America is terrible for gut health: ua-cam.com/video/p3Zc_XZ6EGQ/v-deo.htmlsi=jycef97L9YkGLE6c
What exactly does this have to do with seed oils? Of course it’s easier to gain weight with refined carbs. You know they’re 2 different things, right?
saturated vs polyunsaturated; what was substituted? were they comparing the effect of frying starches of each? What kind of poly unsaturated? are we talking cold pressed olive oil or good ol' industrial soybean oil
I would like to see the study because a lot of times the design is pretty shitty. Also for the general public saturated fat is still considered unhealthy so anyone who is health conscious is likely to not eat much saturated fat, which confounds things further. Healthy user bias is huge.
@@Lurtz14301 to my understanding saturated fat is only relevant because LDL tries to repair the inflammatory damage in the arteries, causing the build up. If the person is healthy and does not have this inflammation, why would saturated fan need to be demonized? it is necessary for body function in hormones, the cells and the brain. This is my bias and please feel free to refute it
@@FutureLaugh I don’t really think saturated fat is problematic and it’s the most stable and hardest to oxidize. Some people may have genetics that don’t handle as much and I don’t really think anyone should be eating a ton of any fat but I don’t think saturated fat is bad in sensible amounts.
@@Lurtz14301 while i agree, i dont know if its enough to convince Dr Norton
as far as I know, seed oils do not include olive or avocado oil as these come from the fruit, not the pit or seed
I inject grapeseed oil into my delts every other day for my TRT and massage my nipples with sunflower oil and im thriving 😂
With 'that' image next to his name, it is kind of hard to take him seriously. There is a difference between looking good and health. Muscle heads tend to die early, right?
Now the real question, how long did these studies last.
Also, you have 0 good data that isn't riddled with confounds and healthy user bias that suggest saturated fats have any negative outcomes in humans at all.
Given the current data. No saturated fats literally cause no harm. Still 22 years in of most saturated fat diet and I'm thriving with 0 health issues
god bless.. considering how corrupt modern "science" is.. (its basically a reverse marketing tool).. looking at evolutionary science and history, is far more valuable than a Unilever funded "study".. the claim that humans "need" these vegetable oils, that didnt exist 120 years ago, is a remarkable claim - especiaclly we have evolved with something else. and that is something noticeble, these seed oil simp rarely wants to talk about how people thrived before crisco. god bless.
I love your content bro, but could you curb the screaming a little? I was away from the screen and it came from nowhere. Anyway, thanks for the excellent info!
Your presence good for nutrition environment keep the good work
Yes, I can see the logic and health benefits in giving up natural foods humans have been eating for millions of years for man-made chemicals that are produced in a refinery...
Did he ever advocate to eat seed oils?? He even said that seed oils are very calorie dense and can cause weight gain which is inflammatory.
Vaccines are made in a lab, let's stop vaccinating children, and also stop administering polio vaccine.
@@TheGreatHorseradish Homo Sapiens exist for about 200.000 years and our brain size is already decreasing...
We got smarter? 😂😂😂 Look at all those dumb people in todays world with diets full of processed chemical shit with hydrogenated seed oils.
I ditched seed oils in 2015 and my health is amazing. My C-RP is 0.2 while eating a lot of high quality animal fats 😋 (raw dairy, egg yolks, pasture raised animals etc...).
The processing of seed oils is all you need to know about that...
Nothing wrong with some natural unprocessed PUFAs in whole foods like walnuts etc...
@@peteplayer3 Weight gain is the smallest problem about seed oils...
Lipid peroxidation, hypothyroidism, low test, plaque buildup, oxidized ldl, cancer, stroke and a lot more...
For someone who wants to guide his life based on science, you are a blessing.
Thank you man.
You’re following the right guy. It’s easy to accidentally follow a sensationalist/extremist/pseudoscientist in the age of social media, so you lucked out.
Admit it, you fell for the Covid masking propaganda too.
Science is the new religion and you are a neophyte lmao.
@@user-pq3vd6oc1cObserving objective data is the opposite of faith
@@chevelleman88Didnt the science disprove them
The video literally confirms to stay away from the oils and to be conscious of the food you consume.
This gentleman is FULL of COMMON SENSE (along with the researched facts he presents), which is sorley lacking in this country!!! Thank you, sir, for this video, as I already had this common sense in my mind before hearing you speak on it. I have subscribed!
Great video.
What type of cooking fats do you use at home?
All these people hating on carnivores, but still they (carnivores) are the ones who live lives with sustained drug free remission from auto immune conditions, while others suffer with pain for their whole life while being stuck on expensive and toxic meds.
Plenty of people who go the carnivore/keto route and have terrible health markers. No basis or credible evidence for the claim you’re making bud
@@yungpunk3522 Yet people are curing uncurable diseases. Go figure.
My body hated the keto/carnivore diet. my testosterone plummeted and my a1c didn't go below 6. Now I eat carbs and being 30kg lighter my a1c is around 5 and test is back to normal.
@@jayallum2423 were you keto or carnivore? You cant just put a / there. And if you were on the carnivore diet, what did you eat?
@@roffe8751 I have done both. Started keto, 6 months, then moved to carnivore as I was told that would fix the issues I was having on keto. It didn't. I ate mainly steak/chicken/fish and some pork. Plenty of fatty meat and fish.
side effects of seed oils include this video :)
He really needs “HUMAN RANDOMIZED CONTROL TRIALS” merch. I know it’s been said before. I’m saying it again.
The RCTs were done by the food industry's paid poodles.
And the seed oils they used were not the heated and treated seed oils that are put into processed foods.
So the data he presents is itself doctored
I wish I could like this video twice
Ackshually its sugar and seed oils combined sir! /s
Paul Saladino has the word salad in his name. If that isn’t the irony of ironies.
And I hear he is quite a tosser, too.
Dr. Norton i just recently found you and saw stone new videos of yours, now some older ones like this.
Don't take it the wrong way but by seeing you in the thumbnail i was like oh no not another "muscle headed" carnivore "Dr"!
When you have opened your mouth my perception quickly changed as you are anything but!
Kudos!
Commenting & liking to boost your channel!
After finishing this video I've realized my comment under the pinned one was partially superfluous. And there are some things I'd like to add:
I like your humor in the middle. In some cases you can only do epidemiology, in vitro and in vivo animal model studies. Unless your last name is Mengele or your team have the number 731 attached to it. (Or their less talked about Antant counterparts...)
You have to be happy if you make THOSE kinds of people angry.
What I missed in this video:
You should have mentioned that all seeds and seed oils aren't created equal. Far from it!
For example Rapeseed and Sunflower vs. Palm and Coconut oils are night and day. And especially true for palm oil as it isn't only bad for your body for multiple reasons but also terrible for the environment. Tons of species go extinct due to the plantations including one of the cutest elephant species of all. And they are objectively feeling, intelligent, sentient and most likely sapient brings with very human like but probably even more complex language systems. Coupled with a wide range of cultures, customs, celebrations and ceremonies. Maybe even religions as the ancient thought they had (written in classical Greek, Egyptian and Roman literature... Sun God worship centered religions according to their beliefs).
And they are the only non human animal sibling known for us that gives their members their personal given names according to human logic, contrasted to other, balls different but not necessarily less complex naming customs and traditions of cetacean and bird and other non human ape species. As far as we know it today off course, but we are in the very beginning of non human language and culture research.
Probably you have videos on the effects of different kinds of seed oils on human health but a couple sentences long mention here is needed IMO. Most people haven't watched all your videos.
I hope you don't mind this constructive criticism from my part. I'm sure you wouldn't add you came across more intelligent than that.
I only edited this comment for correcting some swypoes for clarity.
That MadTV skit: Eat less and move more has never been more relevant.