Animator are STRUGGLING
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Animation Industry workers deserve WAY better than this.
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I never stop thinking about what’s happening in this day and age with the animation industry. And it’s truly heartbreaking to see. I always wanted to go the industry route because my dream originally was to work for Cartoon Network. But as I’ve gotten older my plans have really changed. I hope to one day create my own small animation studio completely focused on traditional hand-drawn animation. So my concepts for cartoons can come to life. Hopefully one day I can achieve this dream of mine.
It sucks right now man....😢
You said it, Petey. 😞
(Also big fan, I used to watch your livestreams all the time)
Hey Petey hope to be like you someday!
Are you working on any projects Petey?
This is why inide animation is thriving
And then they getting struggled by Glitch productions…
Could you name a few that are thriving? Genuinely want to know more about these studios
How about indie artists get together to establish indie animation studios that challenge mainstream media studios?
@@nataliecrayon6720 not easy getting the funding or time to pull that off
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It's probably why most artists now HAVE to be business people and set up their own shop either online, in person, or both. Since I haven't met an artist in the animation who is JUST an animation artist. 😢
That is why ya'll should have been collabing with other folks vs fighting to get into these studios. Make and own your own things. The distribution is available now. You can reach an audience. Make something.
Agreeded. I also think collaboration should be the way of the future for artists. Good professional level skills coming together to make top-notch work! :)
Yep, as an animator I'm terrified of how things are looking, and one can tell many of us are, but we all want to do this, to create, so, let's get together and work, the internet lets us do it from anywhere around the world, indie animation is our future! Let's rebuild this industry ❤
what are some suggestions to get started on this
@@TheMetalValkyrie I'm thinking of doing some short animations and comics to promote my work, I'm also teaming with friends to make a short film. I think it's a good starting point for indie animators!
@@seinadraws4299 Indeed, I am right now working on some comics, and desperately want to get into 2d animation.
@@seinadraws4299 i would say that you must fight your way to get that job and to never give up until you get it.
Honestly after 15 shows and a film, I'm out of work and no whispers of things to come within the year.
It's rough out there.
Best luck to everyone ❤❤❤
yeah
And the problem goes wider and wider when the work was sent abroad. Ussually to Asian country. Imagine how small payment of the animation worker received.
About 10 years ago I was very closed to moving to Burbank (from Cape Town, South Africa) to pursue a career in animation. I had connections with a then Marvel animation director and was assured I had the talent to succeed in the industry. But after doing the research and specifically listening to a ton of Stephen Silver's youtube videos about the industry and how criminal it was, I decided this wasn't the route for me. I did eventually end up working in animation (3 years later) but for advertising at a smaller animation studio that works for US and UK brands. You get permanent positions, solid pay, you learn a lot from jumping around to different projects, you can upskill a lot and you can make a lot of money working in that form of animation. I appreciate Stephen for how open he is about the pitfalls of the animation industry but it really just scared me away from it. Even after all this time, not much has changed. Thanks for sharing this because I do feel that it needs to be spoken about as much as possible.
The trend now is indie shows... It's in bad shape right now.
if my skills improve enough in animation i would probably help make indie animations or do commissions. Originally i wanted animation as a career in my early teens, but after hearing the horror stories people go though in the filed.Especially anime animators get overworked and paid horribly i reconsidered. if i do animation it probably going to be a side job but not main source of income.I have mad respect for animators,3d artist,programmers,game developers and anything else art and programming related going to shows,movie vfx,game development,and animated movies.Because this stuff ain't easy and it take a lot of time.
I am glad to have found your channel, it's amazing!
Like a lot of things in life, it's not what you know, but who you know.
Very insightful, could you cover the same topic but more in the 3D animation industry, specifically for feature films?
i think we must fight harder and harder to make the harsh treatment that the animators who are working in the animation industry, to fight harder to get equal pay, to fight harder to earn the respect they deserve. i get that indie animation is the way to go but all they do is letting the studios who control the animators keep the money and respect from them, and it's sickening for me that these hard working animators aren't getting the respect they get, only despair, we need to support the animators.
My heart goes out to people who draw/animate but at least you guys have a community when it comes to music you're on your own...💯
The problem is also making such short deadlines compared to the pay .I don't get that films like Shrek ,how to train your Dragon, toy story, etc they made the animation business big and earned a lot, They were fresh animation ideas, yet we keep making sequels and TV shows that doesn't earn the same amount and in the end is green-lit for production, also they keep targeting kids more and more as films becomes sequels. instead of digging into more creative stories for both adults and teens or making good sequels to films that actually need a sequel. Like I actually liked Shrek forever after I was quite shocked.
Would be good to see more collectives/ indie studios creating their own IP.
Also funny how artists/ animators seem most expendable, since they’re the core of the product. Hopefully a more entrepreneurial mindset will shift that balance
Oooof and this why the animators need to go on strike like IMMEDIATELY!!!! and also go and make OG Ideas Or Fix the Problem
what about animated shows?
G-d bless stephen silver for helping people stand up for themselves
Meanwhile, im waiting for gamecade episode 2 and spaceking episode 2.
I know I work in a company in hospitality where managers have no degree or special abilities,sit in the office and do some office work, and artists with great skills get paid less. It’s really depressing this world.
0:44 Is that Vee
Thats why I wanna freelance
Why were all the big studios so scared that ppl were quitting when they were on strike when they're litterally quitting FOR their employees
Indie projects are amazing and it’s what I’m most excited about moving forward, but if you’re in the industry proper PLEASE get active in your unions if you have them or with unionization efforts if you don’t. Not saying they’re perfect solutions, but if you can clean up your union leadership or get the ball rolling on a union with passionate leadership with integrity, you’ll be in an exponentially better position to bargain collectively rather than begging individually. If unions weren’t better for you, these major players wouldn’t be doing everything in their power to stop you from joining up with or starting them.
I've never seen a full video formatted like this...even the thumbnail took more space...
Do they have to be in a union to be paid more?
If you’re bargaining with a major studio or corporation, yes. As an individual, they can tell you to go pound sand. If you and all your fellow animators threaten to stop production, they have to listen.
i'm an animator
hi
Hello, fellow animator
@@Seffyseffyseffy hi
@@invadertech141 how are you, man?
@@Seffyseffyseffy i'm gud.. i'm gonna try to get one of my animations finished while i don't have school lol
@@invadertech141 nice, what are you animating?
Animation has always been bad. artist sometimes don't get recognised. With lot of work shifted to computer graphics, studio divide their revenue between purchasing animation software and real artist. Studios need to pay high salary to their executives . So they just cut it from real artists.
I love your videos, but the audio is cut so weird and jerky on your narration
Ai maybe
reality sucks, but i like the furby
Hey if hollywood wants to dis yall why not just move out of it and start our own industry the indies industry. We can buy our own pads we can us ai to our ethical advantage. There no limit to what can individual can use that they have. Accessibility has never been less restrictive as long as we work together.
What's up with the VO? Either it's Ai or every word is just badly edited together
I think it's ai. The host wasn't as oddly robotic as this guy.
disheartening man
Reformat your videos from TikTok to YT, please. I'm begging you.