Skaven Warp Blaster (How to POP Red & Paint Wood Texture) - HC 462

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  • @BitSlinger84
    @BitSlinger84 2 місяці тому +112

    Came here to learn how to pop wood.

    • @kellyhoesing2573
      @kellyhoesing2573 2 місяці тому +5

      Watching this first thing in the morning for synergies

    • @Kataki1987
      @Kataki1987 2 місяці тому

      @@kellyhoesing2573 Same, I just woke up and wanted to pop wood with my buddy vince

    • @huytruong100
      @huytruong100 2 місяці тому +1

      Was waiting for the popping of cherries

    • @Crimzy2304
      @Crimzy2304 2 місяці тому +1

      Lot's of glazing required. 😉

    • @Onk3lM0
      @Onk3lM0 2 місяці тому +1

      It gets more difficult with age. 😢

  • @donchooluvit3275
    @donchooluvit3275 2 місяці тому +11

    "My genius knows no bounds", He's humble too ;) Kidding Vince, you are one of the masters in my opinion. I love the sarcasm.

  • @C3ns0rious
    @C3ns0rious 2 місяці тому +5

    That first thin red glaze over the flor orange was a very satisfying step.

  • @matthewring8301
    @matthewring8301 2 місяці тому +9

    I liked the format of two processes in one video. If you have short ones like this, combining them is great.

  • @Fortunes.Fool.
    @Fortunes.Fool. 2 місяці тому +5

    12:35 Daaammmmnn that looks crazy, imagine Speed Freekz painted like that

  • @cloraformsgood5340
    @cloraformsgood5340 2 місяці тому +2

    Your esteemed co host " that's too red "
    Me - I hope we get a tutorial
    Ive only been using flour, extra opaque paints/ inks for the past few months for the extra punch , so all tutorials, tips and advice is very much appreciated.

  • @Delta66-jz1vl
    @Delta66-jz1vl 2 місяці тому +4

    Early in I knew it would all end in glazes. Great job.

    • @Mikey__R
      @Mikey__R 2 місяці тому +1

      It always ends in glazes! 😂

  • @Dummythxc
    @Dummythxc 2 місяці тому +4

    I think multiple techniques in the video was great both were covered well as well

  • @jasonmclaughlin5647
    @jasonmclaughlin5647 2 місяці тому +2

    Love the pop - I feel like this gives another fluoro tone usage similar to how you did the red cape a few videos back, I can break more bad fluoro habits with these nuggets of info

  • @letsreallytalk9482
    @letsreallytalk9482 Місяць тому +1

    I have to say thank you! I was watching several of your videos, I am going to paint two resin models of my daughters favorite video game. But I was having an anxiety attack trying to figure out the best way to prime them. I have an air brush I bought one a yr or so ago but never got to use it, because I had some health issues going on. So I wasn’t going to use it on these pieces because I thought it was going to be complicated to start. And these pieces are important to me that I don’t want to mess up the detail. So I thought about hand brushing the primer, which for the tiny pieces wouldn’t be difficult and given their size probably better that way. However the main piece was giving me pause. It doesn’t really have a lot of intricate details other than one area where a gate is next to a wall where paint can pool if not careful.
    So I purchased a citadel spray paint thinking it will probably be better, then I came across your video on airbrushing and you really simplified it. I was extremely nervous thinking it would be to hard to do or to learn because I need to get started on these next week so I have plenty of time to paint. So I am going to pull out my air brush thank fully it works lol and do some practice runs on cardboard till I get confident enough to prime my models. Keeping the Citadel just in case it’s more complicated than I think but wanted to tell you, your videos truly helped build my confidence to at least give air brush a try. At least to prime at the very least. So thank you.

  • @kevinhayes517
    @kevinhayes517 2 місяці тому +1

    Great tutorial on both the wood and the armor…really looking forward to “part 2” of the armor. Always something (usually many things) to learn from your videos Ms thank you very much for your time and efforts to teach us new understandings!

  • @MongolMedic
    @MongolMedic 2 місяці тому +1

    The Brown Grey by Pro Acryl quickly became one of my go-to paints for so many things; great all-around color!

  • @Bishop0151
    @Bishop0151 2 місяці тому

    The wood was a great addition to the quiver. The metal red though {chefs kiss}, I hope one day to develop the skills to come up with recipes that effective. This is what I'm here for.
    Thank you Technomancer, thank you.

  • @totallycarbon2106
    @totallycarbon2106 Місяць тому

    Absolutely stunning! I'm getting very inspired to paint up some blood angels in such a vibrant red, thanks!

  • @leewilde8947
    @leewilde8947 2 місяці тому +2

    AKs Tenebrous grey is really nice, the subtle purple is 👌🏻

  • @actinium2754
    @actinium2754 2 місяці тому

    Love the way the wood looked when finished.

  • @isisnmagic1812
    @isisnmagic1812 2 місяці тому

    I sold my skaven from the box but kept this one , great timing of this video thanks Vince.

  • @jameshoepfner3555
    @jameshoepfner3555 2 місяці тому

    This is a great companion video to your review of pro acryl fluorescents. I’m still trying to work through these techniques. Thanks for another great tutorial

  • @earnestwanderer2471
    @earnestwanderer2471 2 місяці тому

    Love the red. It’s good to see some bright colors on Skaven. So many people just stick to muted tones.

  • @derekgarcia3069
    @derekgarcia3069 2 місяці тому

    Great tutorial. I live the red, and it seems easy enough to stop a couple steps early if im aiming more for "tabletop" but still have it pop and read as metal.

  • @wtfserpico
    @wtfserpico 2 місяці тому

    My favorite wood recipe is Army Painter Oak Brown, then Monster Brown, then Monster Brown plus Ash Grey.
    I'll have to add in the ivory step and see how it works for me.
    We'll all be poppin' wood soon!

  • @shadeling6717
    @shadeling6717 2 місяці тому

    It has been a pleasure to see you painting your Skaven. Your passion for the army comes through in these vids and on Warhammer Wednesdays. i can't wait to see the Vizzik video.

  • @Hammerx3
    @Hammerx3 2 місяці тому

    Finally i know how to pop that Lannister armor! Thank you

  • @shyer6646
    @shyer6646 2 місяці тому

    Wow this is absolutely phenomenal, two of the main things I was hoping to learn about for painting Skaven, I quite like the classic almost Roman army color scheme. I first started painting with Sylvaneth and your old painting dryad bark videos were some of the first things I came upon, I like this current take a lot. I’m looking forward to seeing what you do for warpglow. To add to that list I would suggest steampunkie metals, and the one that I find most daunting, fur. I love what you showed about adding wood texture with little dots. I am hoping to do many different fur schemes, and add more fur to places that aren’t necessarily sculpted using (hashing?) but I have zero experience. I want to make my army Redwall themed so like every woodland critter I can pull off, otters badgers opossums skunks raccoons. But I get intimidated with having to pick out the base/mid/highlight. And then there’s the skin.
    I learned from doing Sylvaneth that it’s very easy for things to look like brown blobs so painting in a way that is true to what I’m doing but also stands out. I recently got a ton of pro acryl paints but have next to no experience painting with traditional methods. When I first started painting, contrast paints were almost like a trap that I’ve had to move away from.
    Anyway great work thank you!

  • @kennyclaing4923
    @kennyclaing4923 2 місяці тому

    I love watching your skaven painting videos, and these techniques you show inspires me to continue my own little rats ! Thanks for the video !!!

  • @joanneworrell5936
    @joanneworrell5936 2 місяці тому

    2 shorter related tutorials is easy to watch. Looking forward to the rest.

  • @FrazzledDadsMinis
    @FrazzledDadsMinis 2 місяці тому

    Loved this, especially the wood part. Thank you!

  • @ALNigro-cy7qi
    @ALNigro-cy7qi 16 днів тому

    This solved some of my wood woes.

  • @AviadMD
    @AviadMD 2 місяці тому +9

    Instructions unclear, started pooping red

  • @kylestgermain3186
    @kylestgermain3186 2 місяці тому

    This was a great video on painting red! A lot of red highlights end up looking pink or too orange. I never thought of using fluorescents and glazing over them, some other videos I've seen end up using the fluorescents as the highlight without as much glazing and blending so they end up looking a little out of place. I can't wait to try this recipe and adapt it to other colors.
    Also, I had a great time at your GenCon class for blending. You should consider trying to incorporate that teaching style into a video. The approachable "do this, then that, surprise! You learned x" was entertaining.

  • @johnbruce4004
    @johnbruce4004 2 місяці тому

    Two great tips for one. Excellent value. Thanks

  • @Dummythxc
    @Dummythxc 2 місяці тому

    Hello ! My favorite place for painting tricks and tips 🎉

  • @darkfuture3291
    @darkfuture3291 2 місяці тому

    Great video thank you. I'm always painting reds as I play orks.

  • @tomkelly2363
    @tomkelly2363 2 місяці тому

    Loving your Skaven videos Vince, that red is 🔥 Poor Ninjon, coming for the king 👑

  • @toogreytogame
    @toogreytogame 2 місяці тому

    I know Vince is going for something a level up but I will probably stick with contrast/speedpaint and a dry brush for wood. Focus on spending more time on the fun details. However, I've recently moved away from just using Wyldwood for all wood. Snakebite Leather and Aggaros Dunes have been revelations, adding some lighter wood tones to my palette.

  • @melshk
    @melshk 2 місяці тому +5

    The red tutorial is great inspiration to paint Iron Man for MCP. Thanks Vince!

  • @chucklamb3496
    @chucklamb3496 2 місяці тому

    Thanks Vince, great topic!

  • @CrussaderGrarl
    @CrussaderGrarl 2 місяці тому

    i love the Red and thinking of trying it on some Space Marines^^

  • @BinxyBrown
    @BinxyBrown 2 місяці тому

    Thanks vince ill try out this red recipe later today, i happen to have s regal red cloak that i think this will look great on

  • @maizetoken377
    @maizetoken377 2 місяці тому

    Dang, that red POPS.

  • @Rafael-vu2xn
    @Rafael-vu2xn 2 місяці тому

    That red is CALIENTE !

  • @alecryan5962
    @alecryan5962 2 місяці тому

    Love this red. I had good results using Golden High Flow Pyrolle Orange.

    • @fitz394
      @fitz394 2 місяці тому

      Poorhammer represent

  • @GoldenRogueMinis
    @GoldenRogueMinis 2 місяці тому

    Great video, the red looks fantastic, need a new army now to try it on. Thanks a lot Vince 😩😂😄

  • @Zaggy_Grinn
    @Zaggy_Grinn 2 місяці тому

    thats sooo goood!!! Thanks for sharing Vince!!

  • @Oluabayo
    @Oluabayo 2 місяці тому

    Love your way of teaching thank you!

  • @MCXL1140
    @MCXL1140 2 місяці тому

    Vince, as usual your wood goes hard.

  • @joshbecka6110
    @joshbecka6110 2 місяці тому

    I like my wood dark, strong , rigid and holding a red warp blaster.

  • @EugenAnanin
    @EugenAnanin 2 місяці тому

    Awesome! Keep on painting those Skaven

  • @nothinboutnuthin
    @nothinboutnuthin 2 місяці тому

    Anoter wonderful and timely tutorial. Think this might look good on the W.E. maulerfeind i have cominy up soon! Thanks again!

  • @jamesn2830
    @jamesn2830 25 днів тому

    Definitely gona try this

  • @CandellieStudio
    @CandellieStudio Місяць тому

    Just casually building the warpblaster while being shown how to do an amazing paint job. Maybe I'll aim for this and see how close I can get.

  • @edgarbaez516
    @edgarbaez516 2 місяці тому +1

    While you’re painting Skaven, can you make a video on painting high quality cloth? I recently figured out how to paint convincing NMM, and for some reason now my brain is confused whenever I look at a cloak or robe. Ive started overthinking it.
    I’ve picked up the basics from your other videos like “broad highlights”. But I’d appreciate a video on “try hard painting cloth/robes/linen”.
    I hope you haven’t already painted all the cloth on your skaven. 😅

  • @adriangmori-vargas3504
    @adriangmori-vargas3504 2 місяці тому

    I love this!! My stormcast have a magenta armor, and I want to experiment and see if I could get a similar result

  • @Mikey__R
    @Mikey__R 2 місяці тому +1

    I am a little surprised that Inktense Wood didn't make an appearance, rather than sepia. I would have thought that would have been a slam dunk on this?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  2 місяці тому +1

      TOo strong and shiny, I wanted this to feel a little more dry and old.

  • @Wijkert
    @Wijkert Місяць тому

    10:09 Golden High Flow makes my favorite fluorescent line. Second favorite is the Amsterdam Fluorescent Inks by Talens, which might be a little more difficult to find in the US. Arnau put me on to those during a workshop. I compared both these options head to head and they are really close in quality.
    Ps and boy oh boy (as you might say) are there a bunch of bad fluorescent lines (made mainly by hobby brands)!

  • @jeremiahembs5343
    @jeremiahembs5343 2 місяці тому

    Looks nice.

  • @breakupgoogle4584
    @breakupgoogle4584 2 місяці тому

    More-More Warp-blaster!

  • @necpwnz
    @necpwnz 2 місяці тому

    When I was watching wood part, I be like "why it looks so dull, if you will not give it a coat of bright green or sepia filter... oh, here we go, thats Vince work now". And man, that RED (all with capita) is bright. Stealing this recipe from furless, yes-yes!

  • @Azrael56
    @Azrael56 2 місяці тому

    If in yours "two techniques videos" the "boring" part is like the wood part we want more videos like that :) (now I know how to paint bases in my all-in Rum&Bones2 KS^^)

  • @markgnepper5636
    @markgnepper5636 2 місяці тому

    Great stuff friend 👏 👍 🤙

  • @deepfryergaming5690
    @deepfryergaming5690 24 дні тому

    Stumbled across your channel in the past week and I’ve been consuming your content not stop!
    Could you use the same “red pop” technique for a warp glow from the follow up video on some Knight tubing?
    And as much as you don’t like GW paints, what would your peach tone suggestion be?
    Again, absolutely love your content. It’s so inspiring and informative.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  24 дні тому +1

      Thanks! Wonderful to have you along on the hobby journey!

  • @aionagustin2768
    @aionagustin2768 2 місяці тому

    gotta try that!

  • @philip6136
    @philip6136 Місяць тому

    This looks grate , thanks for the tips 🙂

  • @ToastyPappy
    @ToastyPappy Місяць тому +1

    Im eager to use the red technique on my blood angels with the new stuff coming out for them, but looking at all my death company marines that'll be in black leaves me with one question, how do you paint black armor to not look so boring?????

  • @kendrickwhite4868
    @kendrickwhite4868 2 місяці тому

    You are the goat, sir!

  • @meeple4hire103
    @meeple4hire103 2 місяці тому +1

    I’d like to see your black lining technique on this mini.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  2 місяці тому

      It was pretty simple, just thin tenebrous grey carefully dropped into recesses.

    • @meeple4hire103
      @meeple4hire103 2 місяці тому

      Ah, see, that’s why I asked. Lots of YT videos say black lining, and then we trainees use black. I’ve wondered if it really means use that areas shadow color … add a spec of black to the shadow color, and use that.

  • @ozarkhillibilly9584
    @ozarkhillibilly9584 2 місяці тому

    IMPRESSIVE WOOD VINCE. 😂😎😎

  • @galatician8063
    @galatician8063 2 місяці тому

    I'm more disciplined than that! I stayed past the wood. Wild Red recipe!!! Warp cannon is reminding me of fantastical matchbox hotrod cars of long ago, which were the only ones that really peaked my interest!

  • @silverczaja
    @silverczaja 2 місяці тому +1

    sweet wood technic , defo using that from now on
    would that popping red work just as well with different colors, like for example blue i plan on using on big metal parts of my Kharadron Overlords airships?
    what paints would be needed for that, dark blue, then sky blue and then some sort of fluorescent turquoise?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  2 місяці тому +1

      It really hard with blue honestly, if you're leaning into turquoise, Fluo yellow can do it, but most near Fluo blues don't really have that same kick, blue is just a more subdued color.

  • @TheJankmaster
    @TheJankmaster 2 місяці тому

    Awesome

  • @Wijkert
    @Wijkert Місяць тому

    10:15 alternatively you could go with a magenta or hot pink as fluorescent for your more colder reds (or colder environments). Based on what we are used to when it comes to orange and magenta pigments, you would intuitively say that the fluorescent orange is brighter than the magenta. However the fluorescents don't necessary follow those rules. All 3 fluorescent oranges I own are less bright than the magenta/hot pink ones. So if you want to go for max brightness, the magenta is a serious option. You can warm it up with orangey-reds on top.
    Edit: I need to correct myself here, the fluorescent oranges I own are actually a little brighter or at least close to the same as the magenta's/hot pinks. So if you want max brightness I would go with the orange as well.
    There are not many good red fluorescents on the market, but you can make a decent one mixing a magenta with an orange.

  • @tomekhekin914
    @tomekhekin914 Місяць тому

    Greate timing just yesterday had problem with red and I always have problem with wood.

  • @dlar321
    @dlar321 2 місяці тому

    How did you know I was about to paint a ton of world eater armor!

  • @williamtrinidad3520
    @williamtrinidad3520 2 місяці тому

    Watched!❤

  • @Meraklis80
    @Meraklis80 2 місяці тому

    tracing all the individual lines??? man I admire your patience. Its drybrush for me, but love your work

  • @natehart1988
    @natehart1988 2 місяці тому

    Tried to follow your wood steps. Got board.
    I’ll see myself out.

  • @vadersjester
    @vadersjester 2 місяці тому

    The red is outstanding, with the sharp edge highlights, do you just do less glazes of the red or are you going back to the peach?

  • @docbun
    @docbun 2 місяці тому

    Hi Vince! Thanks for the video and sharing. For the red armor, what makes you stop at sunny skin tone and not go crazy all the way to white (before the series of glazes)?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  2 місяці тому +1

      I want it more warm, and that is close enough to very bright for my purposes.

  • @MrGunnar177
    @MrGunnar177 Місяць тому

    I came for the wood texture

  • @gutssubz8232
    @gutssubz8232 2 місяці тому

    Hi Vince, why didn't you go with your (?former) favourite Intense Wood (Scale 75) for the wash over Seraphim Sepia?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  2 місяці тому +1

      TOo strong and shiny, I wanted this to feel a little more dry and old.

  • @Alucard13524678
    @Alucard13524678 Місяць тому

    Hey Vince thanks again for another great video. I actually had a question, as a new painter how would I go about painting red skin that looks like it is glowing underneath? Again awesome video.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  Місяць тому +1

      It's a very complicated effect, effectively, you would get brighter where the skin gets thinner and would normally show blood.

    • @Alucard13524678
      @Alucard13524678 Місяць тому

      @@VinceVenturella thank you so much for the response.

  • @powersave2
    @powersave2 2 місяці тому

    Hey Vince, not a question really related to the video subject, sorry, but have you shown off your mobile hobby 'bag'/setup?
    I went to the Tacoma Open for the hobby challenge, kept wishing I had this or that, but never wrote anything down. There was someone with a really cool handmade box with lights, and misc tools/supplies. What does you travel hobby setup look like? What might you whip up if you were going to partake in a hobby challenge (kitbashing a diorama with provided bits pile)?

  • @benjamin2629
    @benjamin2629 2 місяці тому

    Makes me wonder if there is similar one could do for a really popping orange that didnt end up looking peach

  • @Gage_Welch
    @Gage_Welch 2 місяці тому

    Jokes on you I was here for the wood!

  • @PrzybyszzMatplanety
    @PrzybyszzMatplanety 2 місяці тому

    I'm lazy, I just paint it bone or beige and flood it with S75 Inktense Wood.
    By the way, after you mentioning two thin coats of paint - have you tried Duncan's TTC paints? I would gladly hear your opinion.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  2 місяці тому +1

      Haven't tried them yet, I will eventually.

  • @markfellows8590
    @markfellows8590 2 місяці тому

    Vince, do you not paint something like this as sub assemblies? isn't it easier to get into all the hard to reach places? Thanks for the vid, loving it as usual.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  Місяць тому +1

      Normally, but these easy assemble models don't do sub assemblies well.

  • @kewanzahedinour7304
    @kewanzahedinour7304 2 місяці тому

    Nice thank you for the video, i will try to try it on my Khorne characters. Also I have a question, why didn't you use it on any Khorne characters?

  • @nathanbuxton3271
    @nathanbuxton3271 Місяць тому

    Hi Vince, I don’t know if you are taking video ideas, but are there any things that should be thought about in particular when painting a very large model, to make sure it looks it’s scale next to all the smaller ones on the table? I recently acquired a Forgewolrd daemon, and I’m conscious it will be standing next to bloodletters. I don’t know if there is enough there for a video on its own, but wondered what you think, particularly when it comes to lighting considerations.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  Місяць тому +1

      In general, as long as it's all in scale, you're tactics are the same, as you move up scale, you need more detail, more nuance and so on.

    • @nathanbuxton3271
      @nathanbuxton3271 Місяць тому

      Thank you very much Vince :)

  • @travislankford9254
    @travislankford9254 2 місяці тому

    Would you also recommend the poppin' red for some poppin' Blood Angels?

  • @DatSass
    @DatSass 2 місяці тому

    IIRC you’ve used fluorescent pink for red before instead of orange - do you like orange better now or just in this instance?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  2 місяці тому +1

      Just different final product, wanted it more orange here.

  • @bashkaai
    @bashkaai 2 місяці тому +1

    how does the ATOM red compare to the ProAcryl Bold Pyrrole Red?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  Місяць тому +1

      I like it a little more, but they are both fantastic.

  • @nathanmccook133
    @nathanmccook133 Місяць тому

    🤔 if one wanted to try that red recipe but by using purely pro acryl what would the steps be? I own the full line but haven't had a chance to expand to AK and other brands except for some key effect paints I needed here n there over the years. That said I got some big projects with a lot of read in my back log lol

  • @Serpsor
    @Serpsor 2 місяці тому

    So, is this an upgrade to the fluoro pink technique you used for a cloak recently?

  • @brib9716
    @brib9716 2 місяці тому

    What makes you decide to paint something like this with regular brushes vs airbrush?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  2 місяці тому

      Doing a video. ;) (Generally, it's easier for people to follow if I use a brush).

  • @manuelsaavedra8081
    @manuelsaavedra8081 2 місяці тому

    Why not just use a vermilion layer and glaze over the white underpaint? If it had a slight satin finish it would pop as hard if not harder without having to deal with fluor paints with no coverage

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  2 місяці тому +1

      The Fluo has way more of a glow, and the two Fluos I use cover well enough, the normal paints will not pop and glow as much.

    • @manuelsaavedra8081
      @manuelsaavedra8081 Місяць тому

      ​@@VinceVenturella I tried it using the new Vallejo Game Color range and yeah, it's really R E D

  • @bensdn3969
    @bensdn3969 Місяць тому

    Sorry, another question. Is it OK to glaze with red ink to have a more reddish finish ?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  Місяць тому +1

      Absolutely. You can always tint through more glazes

  • @bensdn3969
    @bensdn3969 Місяць тому

    Hi Vince, would this technique work on a red skin like Khorne's daemon ones ?

  • @createdmanpainting
    @createdmanpainting 2 місяці тому

    Love seeing your skaven vids. 🤌🤌🤌

  • @christophermiller8381
    @christophermiller8381 2 місяці тому

    This might be a silly question, but on your patreon, what exactly is “full library access”? Videos that aren’t on UA-cam? PDF’s?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  2 місяці тому

      Every month I do a Hobby Q&A, those are for patrons only, so you have access to that live as well as past Q&As.

  • @itookdowngod
    @itookdowngod Місяць тому

    Could this technique work for blue armor as well? what colors would i use instead of pastel peach and fluoro orange? a green or yellow?

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  Місяць тому

      Blue is tough, it's just a flat color, you're often better just finding a good bright single pigment blue and glazing it directly over the white or near white.

    • @itookdowngod
      @itookdowngod Місяць тому

      @@VinceVenturella Thanks! Any recommendations for a single pigment blue?