TRO: 3058 Upgrade has Alternate Configuration Romeo which has a pair of Clan Large Pulse Lasers, an LB 10-X Autocannon, a quartet of ER Medium Lasers, and a pair of Streak SRM-6’s and is a field refit variant that the SLDF built using Clan Smoke Jaguar salvage during Operation Bulldog. Configuration Foxtrot in RS 3145: New Tech, New Upgrades has a C3 Boosted Slave, a Clan ER Medium Laser, five Clan LRM-5’s and six Thunderbolt 5’s. It’s cousin, Configuration Golf drops the missiles for a Clan ER PPC, Clan LB-20X, and a TSEMP Cannon.
"Still on that Kurita omnimech contract, Ted?" "Yeah, Bill. Think I'm on to something here." "Oh?" "Yep. Playing with a Thor chasis. 30 tons of pod space!" "Wild! What are you going to do with it?" "Well, I'm thinking of packing it full of SRM ammo." "Around the XL engine?" "Yep." "Going to include CASE, Ted?" "You're a funny man, Bill."
I love that the Sunder looks almost entirely utilitarian. No frills, no fuss, just massive fucking guns, slabs of armour and no mucking about. If it were a clan mech they’d have cosplayed it up like a teddy bear or something 😂… the twats.
my first experience with the Sunder was MW4, mercs. i thought it was ugly and weak for an assault mech. Nowdays i can appreciate it's omnitech but still think it's ugly and weak
I remember it from Mechwarrior 3. Back then it was also ugly and weak, well inmho at least. None of the configurations could ignite my heart with the fire of love for this chunk of metal. The couldron-born on the other hand...
Yep the Sunder is a death trap. none of the variants have case. even the one with all clan weapons. our group likes to use the old ammo explosion rules....don't stand to close, i do not think i have had a game where my sunder didn't get an ammo crit and explode (kind of like the old grand crusader). Still a great mech though.
Never liked the look of it, the box torso mixed with the Summoner/hell bringer legs always looked so off to me, granted the actual updated picture fixes the legs issue at least. I'm happy that they made a mech with angled surfaces for better chance of some kind of deflection but I wish that they had taken that a bit further. I don't recall using the mech that often, usually just left the AI in it, pretty sure. Interesting design, typical IS tech that is just too bulky to fit into something of that weight is always funny to me.
The IS could have just bought the tech from Clan Diamond Shark rather than reverse engineer the mechs. But, hey, gotta do something I suppose. Guess they didn't learn from the Allies of WWII where reliable and decent weapons systems overwhelmed the superior tech of the Germans.
German tech wasn't superior. That's a myth resulting from the cold War and the revisionism created by nazi scientists and generals that were obtained through Operation Paperclip. German superscience ended in a lot of dead ends, wasted time, and wasted resources. The more the nazi party spent on their leaders' projects, the less fuel, materiel, and people they had to devote to stuff that actually worked. Instead, German scientists wanting to avoid Frontline duty promised the party the Moon (insert nazi ufo meme here) even if they knew it was a dead end because they knew the dysfunctional infighting and ego games of nazi politics meant everyone wanted a war-winning superweapon. Germany was doomed from the start after the first year of ww2 because their nominal allies (fascist Italy and imperial Japan) were more interested in securing territorial claims (which spectacularly backfired in Crete with Italy and with Pearl Harbor for Japan). As soon as the US got involved, which had little in the way of war exhaustion and plenty of materiel and production capacity, the nazis were doomed. Also, a lot of Germany's best scientists defected to the allies or otherwise sought refuge outside of Germany because it turns out when a group of people are being purged they tend to run away and do science for the ones going against the whole purging thing. Remember, the nazis considered atomic sciences "Jewish science". The brain drain was massive, and what scientists were left were working on projects intended to be dead ends so they wouldn't have to go to the front. There's also the fact Germany was the aggressor, and it tends to be easier to keep a populace involved and willing to fight when you're the Defender. Will anybody actually read this whole thing? Probably not.
@@draken68 That last part is why back when Berretta won the contract to make the M9 pistol, since they didn't already have a factory in the US they were forced to build one here. Though I suppose it was also political to soothe those who didn't like contracting a foreign compony in the first place.
@@draken68 Shush about that. Don't discourage our arms sales to countries too short-sighted to realize they're hostage to our whims if they want their military to keep working. :)
Mechwarrior 3 Sunder was one of my faves. Absolute brute with a look to match.
Me: *walks into the Mechbay* “Whoa did someone finally reverse engineer the Vulture?
Tech: “No.”
TRO: 3058 Upgrade has Alternate Configuration Romeo which has a pair of Clan Large Pulse Lasers, an LB 10-X Autocannon, a quartet of ER Medium Lasers, and a pair of Streak SRM-6’s and is a field refit variant that the SLDF built using Clan Smoke Jaguar salvage during Operation Bulldog.
Configuration Foxtrot in RS 3145: New Tech, New Upgrades has a C3 Boosted Slave, a Clan ER Medium Laser, five Clan LRM-5’s and six Thunderbolt 5’s. It’s cousin, Configuration Golf drops the missiles for a Clan ER PPC, Clan LB-20X, and a TSEMP Cannon.
Probably the only word of Blake reference he enjoyed saying
🎵Sunder! (nah nah nah nah na-na nah nah)🎵
I love how these dcms omnis remind me of imperial Japan crash development programs based on German tech clandestinely shipped to Japan via uboat.
nice first gen IS omni. Still remember the glossy pictures for these guys in the original TRO
I have an CCG Kurita deck built around these.
They do some work over there pretty darn well. Better than they perform in BT, if anything.
"Still on that Kurita omnimech contract, Ted?"
"Yeah, Bill. Think I'm on to something here."
"Oh?"
"Yep. Playing with a Thor chasis. 30 tons of pod space!"
"Wild! What are you going to do with it?"
"Well, I'm thinking of packing it full of SRM ammo."
"Around the XL engine?"
"Yep."
"Going to include CASE, Ted?"
"You're a funny man, Bill."
Good to see Ted and Bill back at work
@@CriticalRocket They love what they do.
Carry on my wayward Sunder...
🎶There will be war till you are done…🎶
Lay your Claner head to rest..
Don't you Cry no More
Hey man I just wanted you to know, I think your doing a great job and really enjoy your content.
Thank you very much
Thanks Thomas :)
@@CriticalRocket he was speaking to me
I love that the Sunder looks almost entirely utilitarian. No frills, no fuss, just massive fucking guns, slabs of armour and no mucking about.
If it were a clan mech they’d have cosplayed it up like a teddy bear or something 😂… the twats.
haha true. Proper Inner Sphere Kwik Save style branding.
Rude honking in the background?! You know we all prefer random cat noises!
Exactly, these people just don't understand.
No mw3 gameplay footage for the background? 😝
I did try to get it running on the editing PC but no luck so far.
my first experience with the Sunder was MW4, mercs. i thought it was ugly and weak for an assault mech. Nowdays i can appreciate it's omnitech but still think it's ugly and weak
I remember it from Mechwarrior 3. Back then it was also ugly and weak, well inmho at least. None of the configurations could ignite my heart with the fire of love for this chunk of metal.
The couldron-born on the other hand...
Yep the Sunder is a death trap. none of the variants have case. even the one with all clan weapons. our group likes to use the old ammo explosion rules....don't stand to close, i do not think i have had a game where my sunder didn't get an ammo crit and explode (kind of like the old grand crusader). Still a great mech though.
Best bet is to run them at the enemy and eject when you get nice and close.
Never liked the look of it, the box torso mixed with the Summoner/hell bringer legs always looked so off to me, granted the actual updated picture fixes the legs issue at least. I'm happy that they made a mech with angled surfaces for better chance of some kind of deflection but I wish that they had taken that a bit further. I don't recall using the mech that often, usually just left the AI in it, pretty sure. Interesting design, typical IS tech that is just too bulky to fit into something of that weight is always funny to me.
The IS could have just bought the tech from Clan Diamond Shark rather than reverse engineer the mechs. But, hey, gotta do something I suppose. Guess they didn't learn from the Allies of WWII where reliable and decent weapons systems overwhelmed the superior tech of the Germans.
IS didn't know Clan Diamond shark would trade them with good faith and/or quantity. Also good for a military to control its own supply line.
German tech wasn't superior. That's a myth resulting from the cold War and the revisionism created by nazi scientists and generals that were obtained through Operation Paperclip.
German superscience ended in a lot of dead ends, wasted time, and wasted resources. The more the nazi party spent on their leaders' projects, the less fuel, materiel, and people they had to devote to stuff that actually worked.
Instead, German scientists wanting to avoid Frontline duty promised the party the Moon (insert nazi ufo meme here) even if they knew it was a dead end because they knew the dysfunctional infighting and ego games of nazi politics meant everyone wanted a war-winning superweapon.
Germany was doomed from the start after the first year of ww2 because their nominal allies (fascist Italy and imperial Japan) were more interested in securing territorial claims (which spectacularly backfired in Crete with Italy and with Pearl Harbor for Japan).
As soon as the US got involved, which had little in the way of war exhaustion and plenty of materiel and production capacity, the nazis were doomed.
Also, a lot of Germany's best scientists defected to the allies or otherwise sought refuge outside of Germany because it turns out when a group of people are being purged they tend to run away and do science for the ones going against the whole purging thing. Remember, the nazis considered atomic sciences "Jewish science". The brain drain was massive, and what scientists were left were working on projects intended to be dead ends so they wouldn't have to go to the front.
There's also the fact Germany was the aggressor, and it tends to be easier to keep a populace involved and willing to fight when you're the Defender.
Will anybody actually read this whole thing? Probably not.
@@draken68 That last part is why back when Berretta won the contract to make the M9 pistol, since they didn't already have a factory in the US they were forced to build one here. Though I suppose it was also political to soothe those who didn't like contracting a foreign compony in the first place.
@@draken68 Shush about that. Don't discourage our arms sales to countries too short-sighted to realize they're hostage to our whims if they want their military to keep working. :)
This mech could use a redesign.
Lol it looks goofy