This is the Best Zero Turn Mower on the Market
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- Cub Cadet PRO Z 960 Review. zero turn mower with a steering wheel
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I own the Pro Z 970 (dual wheel for hills). It is a fantastic machine. The steering wheel was initially to accommodate my wife who does not like the traditional zero turn handles. I have come to love it as well. Absolutely fantastic machine at a crazy price but I wanted to buy a machine for the next 10 years and have the additional stability of the 4 back wheels. Good video.
Totally agree with cub steering wheel hill stability and it not tearing when zero turn. When the patent expires, I expect it to be widely adopted by other brands.
Well if this UA-cam gig don't work out for ya Brock , Cub Cadet will put you on in a heart beat ! lol
Good job
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Ive had a 60inch Gravely for6 yrs no repairs and cuts great!
I have an ultima ZTX 4-54 my first zero turn was a z force s 48 nice mower but too hard on my back . You can’t beat front steering on a side hill. This ultima is a great machine. This is a fantastic video.
I bought my Z54 back about10 years or more 400hrs. Running the front wheels off of it. I like the new design!
I have a Husqvarna mz54 and I'll run it against any zeroturn. I can lay stripes with any $15,000 mower . It has grease zerks on all the pulleys and casters . Built like a tank. Been mowing commercially with it for three years (45 yards)and not one break down. I grease it weekly and change my filters monthly but blow them out daily. Keep my blades sharpen weekly and use gator blades.
I have a 2012 Z Force 48 Commercial. Bought it new based on the recommendation of the local equipment company's owner. I mow 5 rugged, acres studded with live oaks in the Texas Hill Country. I have really put this thing through the wringer and it just goes and goes. I've been though a few idler pulleys and a few spindles, but they are easy to replace. It has a Kohler Command 23, which has been a good engine. I've only replaced the blades once, as they get beat really hard. I usually just sharpen them once a year and it still mows great. The best feature is the steering wheel, which allows me to easily side hill and cross uneven terrain. This thing is a mountain goat and will get into some places that I really shouldn't take it, and where a lap bar mower could never get. When, or if, it ever dies, I will replaced it with another Cub Cadet with a steering wheel.
I have tried one of those but I have arthritis in my feet and it was a pain in my feet to operate. Plus I love the suspension in Ferris lawn mowers which they have a patent on so no one else but simplicity, which is owned by Ferris, has also. I love the two handle way of mowing.
Any mower that runs and cuts is the best mower!
True statement.
I had my cub cadet 12 years. Your right it is the best mower on the market.
I have the mini homeowner grade ZTS1 version. No fancy suspension on the front, in fact, the frame is so rigid i can lift a wheel over a foot in the air with no flex whatsoever. It has multiple grease zerks, mostly in the steering linkage bushings on the front. I got it for one specific reason: Hills. My property is on the side of a mountain, So I have a 200 plus foot long hill right down the middle that varies between 17 and 25 degrees. I can mow sideways along most of it. A regular Zero turn would just lawn dart down the hill, and a lawn tractor, or any tractor would flip over. That's where these mowers shine is on hills and in and amongst trees, They are a lot more precise than a regular zero turn cleaning up the woodlands that are my front lawn. With a heat index of 107 today, the grass can grow, though.
Fantastic and much safer machine! TFS
I’ve had the steer wheel cub for years and love it. The only problem I have had have been my own fault.
I’m in western Pa and have very hilly property, I got the chance to use my cousins cub cadet RZTS, it handles the steep hills great, that air ride seat is a must, and Cub Cadet really stepped up there game compared to the box store junk mowers they sell, these are built like the original Cub cadets
Thanks for sharing.
I have (4) of the PROZ960s. My guys will never let me go back to lap bars or stand up. Built in turf tear reduction and the coveted ability to mow on steep slopes and around retention ponds like a breeze is truly a game changer. Our production has increased 20%. NO MORE 3 point turns.
This guy ^^^^
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I have a Pro Z 972 and I mow STEEP hills without breaking a sweat. A total beast in all ways. Would never consider a bar steer after running this one for four seasons. Super heavy construction and it will last a long time.
Why would a female want a steering wheel @@RockhillfarmYT
Skid steering steering isn't feminine?
@RockhillfarmYT where rhe demonstration of the steering rear axel
I has all cub cadet 4 of them and had the dual wheel, Then I overheard. a man talking with a salesman, The national latino mowers assoc gets double the discount as a veteran, When I questioned then I was told I could join it for 50 dollars, I now have 3 exmarkz and 1 gravely, I will never own anything cub cadet.
I remember seeing this at the equip expo. I was sure it was a lot more money. Well, my wife will try it out this October down in Kentucky, but I really think she’s liking the Spartan brand.
Cub Cadet PRO Z 960 - $13,500-$15,000! Sure, I bet it's a great mower, but I can't afford it. WAY out of my price range.
Way outside my ability!
My favorite thing about this mower is not the huge engine that comes on the premium model. It’s the steering system.
You can get this steering system on a mower that cost $3000-$5000 which is still a lot of money but in the lawnmower world it’s pretty standard.
When the companies have me demonstrate one, they usually have me show the biggest version of it, but that doesn’t mean I would necessarily buy the biggest one either
I got a cub cadet zero turn priced at $3800 with 24 horse Koler engine and a 54" deck that shreds grass beautifully and runs like a top.
Look at a bad boy maverick. Very good mower for less than half the price. I can't speak to the reliably but they're built like a tank.
@@kevinbrewer9421 I almost got one of those. I like their construction. We'll made.
I've got steep hills. I wish my zero turn had steering wheels. it gets scary sometimes.
Stop saying 4 wheel steering. The rear wheels only rotate forward and reverse, they do not turn side to side
To say it’s the best you would have to use this mower commercial for a year, that’s the only way you can get a chance to test every aspect of weird lawns with obstacles and things like that.
Constructive criticism I know you didn’t ask for but I want your channel to succeed and please don’t take this the wrong way. Please don’t turn your channel into an Outdoors with the Morgans copycat. I’ve noticed a lot of the videos have the same content as far as firewood and now this mower review. They have their nitch and you have yours and love the tractor content. I notice when creators have the same content I as a viewer are more easily distracted and less interested. Maybe I’m way off but I just want you to prosper and succeed. Just my opinion and.02 no one asked for. Stay blessed!
I have had a cub cadet 0 turn since 2015 and mine has greaseless blade pulley hubs I have not had one issue with them, I cut about 2.5 acres weekly in Wisconsin, It needed plugs, air filter and oil changes. I will buy another one when this one junks out.
We need ratings after a few years.
I never could get on the zero-turn bandwagon. Just did not like them because of the "shopping cart wheels" (copyright pending). My dad doesn't like them because he couldn't have a beer and cigar while he mowed.
This mower solves those problems.
I've never used one, and from what I've been told, I'd be better off buying another lawn tractor because the zero turns are not good at pulling anything....I have a 14cuft dump cart that I use around my property a lot, and when its filled with stuff its heavy, so I'd stick with a lawn tractor or a garden tractor would be better but nobody builds garden tractors anymore.
I guess Toro didn't make the SWX5050 that I've had for about 7 years.
I have to dis-agree on the steering system, the only thing they did, was eliminate the sticks, and complicated the set up.....more to fail.....
hi there very interesting , thanks for the show , john
I am happy with my toro zero turn “with a steering wheel”!
I purchased it new on end of season clearance for $1700. About 1/10 th of the price of these.
It is 5 years old and still going strong. :)
I mentioned in the video that you can get the same mower that I am showing in a residential model for $3000-$4000
I’m sure the Toro mower is good. It was a patent infringement and they were only able to sell them for a short period of time.
Great video.
Ya...my first thought was, That needs a "neckin' knob" to steer easier!!
Exactly
This machine is 4 wheel steer because if it wasn't then with the front wheels turned to the 90° position, the machine wouldn't turn at all but go straight forward, plowing the front wheels into the ground.
Laser straight on a zero, hold one hand steady (reasonable speed) and steer to it with other hand. Impossible to go straight with both hands in constant motion. Impossible. CC's real safety advantage is on a slope. Wish it were diesel and deck driven by PTO ala Kub ZD. As always, thanks. TFS
Great video thanks. I have 20 acres and when we had 6 horses they took care of the mowing. Now their all gone and using a brush Hog on my JD 970 or my T474 TYM Cab is impossible in many places, just too steep even with the loaded tires....so Ive been looking at bigger riding mowers. The top of the line Cub Cadet with the 4 tires on the back would due the job I think......but the price is very high... 27k I think....yikes....
Hmm... I wonder the direction he mows? He mows his front yard in clockwise direction which means, shute shoots out clippings he will then go over again! If you go in counter clockwise direction, the clippings shoot out onto mowed yard. Does anyone else see this? Does it matter?
❤you do a superior explanation of this mower ,they should pay you for your time. Thanks for your help.
I don't know why people always start out with a cut that blows what your cutting against the building or fence. I always try to blow the clippings away from stuff.
Thank you ! But what are "Grease zerks"? I bought a Ztxs54 last week and can't wait for it to arrive. Have you done a review on these? Regardless, how do you remove wet grass that will stick to the deck when mowed? Other posts say the batteries are less than expected. Do I need to buy a different battery? What type of gas goes in these? Do they need periodic fuel cleaner? What is best speed to mow? Without a gas gauge how do we know when gas is low? I own 4 acres of which I will be mowing close to 2 acres weekly. How much can I get mowed on a tank? I have an out of shape fire pit surrounded by tall weeds that have grown over the rock garden around it. Can I mow over it without affecting the rocks? Thanks again. You covered lots of material and now I need to learn which of these features I have on my machine. Keep me posted????
Grease fittings
I have a Ryobi electric zero turn with a joystick. I like that design because it allows me to just sit back and flick my wrist toncontrol everything. I have to put a little more effort into left turns than right turns because of my resting arm location. Electric is not for everyone but it works well for me to maintain a few acres near the house and I brush hog the rest.
To answer the expected reply, I use tractor mowing strategy where I mow the perimeter and then keep that path shrinking the mowed area. Going clockwise to mulch grass more than once. I just like the nonstop mowing that I don't get with doing 180s.
A friend of mine has one just like it called a GIZ Mow, which he really likes, he had a Camp Ground and has bought just about every O-turn there is.
We bought a Pro Z 100 steering wheel Cub Cadet in 2018. It has been a great mower and we would buy another one without any hesitation. Outdoors with the Morgans recently did a video with the cub cadet zero turn steering wheel mower also. I would bet after the release of your video and their’s that more people will probably purchase this type of mower.
If I was going to spend that much money, I would buy a walker zero turn
I've seen a couple of different brand zero turns with steering wheel one was a toro a couple of years ago another was one sold at Sam's Club. Both much smaller but they were already doing the steering wheel concept.
Cub cadet came out with these in 2012 and they have a patent on them. Toro made their version that they thought was different enough to get around the patent.
The Toro version used a triangular cog instead of a round one. Made the steering clunky. There was a lawsuit and toro had to pull all of theirs.
Anybody can put a steering wheel on one. The patent protects the way they synchronize the front steering with the rear steering.
@@RockhillfarmYT cub cadet is just an mtd with cub cadet name slapped on it just like a majority of mower brands. Husqvarna, craftsman, Murray, even box store John Deere was made by mtd up to a few years ago.
@danielsmit11 completely inaccurate about the pro series. The ones at Lowe’s or Home Depot are that
The pro series are engineered from the ground up by cub and they are over built
They don’t say cub cadet anywhere on them
@@RockhillfarmYT wrong. International harvester sold cub cadet to mtd in 1981.
As of today cub cadet is manufactured by Stanley Black & Decker which owns the MTD corporation
@@RockhillfarmYT wrong. international harvester sold cub cadet to mtd in 1981.
Currently cub cadet is manufactured by Stanley Black and Decker which owns the MTD corporation
I had no idea thats how that was designed and worked. Looks like a nice machine.
Good rule of thumb:hp should be about half of the deck size
The steering wheel is because people that do not know how to run a zero turn with sticks.
Driving with sticks is entirely different from what the average person are use to.
I tell everyone that tries driving my hustler super z 60in. I tell them it only takes little bitty movements.
Or you're riding a bucking bronco. 😅
What about changing the blades ??
Toro has residential model but people use them commercially
Toro came out with a zero term with the steering wheel, but they had to take it off of the market because it was a patent infringement.
To get around the patent, they attempted to use a triangular gear in place of the round gears. Not only did it not work as well, but also it did not clear the patent protection.
I purchased one of the first Steering wheel style zero turn mower, Cub Cadet Z Force S54 and it has proven itself to be a very stout & reliable mower. Has several hundred hours now, had it serviced recently (hydro drive belt) and my mechanic read the date manufactured as 2010. Looking back I realize the date is correct. One of the best things about the mower is its ability to handle side slopes. Have an area I mow at church near the road with a pretty severe slope and while I have to steer with one hand and hold on to high side of mower with the other, the mower is like a Billy goat on the side slope. Been a great mower!
what is it about watching the grass get mowed????? lol kinda gratifying
IMO, the ZT with a steering wheel will eventually become the standard. I wasn't aware Cub Cadet had a patent on the design. 👍
It looks nice but I’m not sure I could pay that much for a lawnmower. I have a cub cadet zt1 zero for $3500. Cub cadet has always been a good mower for me.
I agree it’s way way over priced
Ego Powerplus might have been the company who tried to release a zero turn with a steering wheel that infringed the Cub Cadet patent. Ego seemed to change their steering wheel zero turn so the front wheels are still castor wheels. A bit disappointing but what can you do?
My farm is hilly and I’ve been thinking of getting one of these to mow around trees in my orchard. Probably I won’t buy one and will use a tractor based mowing system.
I have this same mower and outside spending $30,000 on a ventrac it is the best mower for slopes I have used.
Brock...how easy is it to lift up and scrape the deck off?
When going around a curve, a tree or maybe a flower bed, does the back wheel cut across? Or can you closely mow all the way around a tree without the back wheel hitting the tree?
IMO to have true 4 wheel steering, the machine needs to articulate.
I just bought a john deere z760r 60 cut with bagger system and mowed today and tried to cat the grass taller and I just put new blades on this morning and it would not cut grass at 2.5 inches. It looked like complete $hit and and had to lower it back to 2in and re mow. I'm ready to trade it off. It made me so freaking mad. I want my old kubota mower back. I've got just under 25hrs on this thing. The deck on it seems to be lighter than my old kubota mower and bounces more.
I had a cub ztr a long time ago and had a kawasaki engine 54 cut. Was a really good residential mower. That's what led me to only buy mowers with kawasaki engines was because of it.
If anyone know how to improve the cut quality on this JD z760r 60 cut I'm all ears.
Hello people we don't greese our cars anymore and they don't wear out. No biggie!! Love the grass shoot and that pulley guard is genius.
Yes the ball joints fall off all the time while driving 😢😢😢
Ask any mechanic or tow truck driver 😮
@philliphall5198 get real I wasn't born yesterday. I've own many vehicles some with tons of miles on them and no problems. A Silverado with 300,000 miles with no front end parts put into this vehicle. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but not that much. Especially as much as you exaggerated. Yeah go ask tow truck/ mechanic shop if this happens and of course they will say yes it's there business.
Does it ride as nice as a Ferris with full suspension?????
The way that mower works is pretty cool. I have casually looked at them but not thoroughly. I think it is a similar concept as the Country Clipper with a joystick. If I remember right that mower uses cables/rods at the bottom of the joystick so when you move the joystick right it simultaneously slows down the right hydro while speeding up the left. If you move it dramatically it will reverse one hydro while speeding up the other in the forward direction. You can do this with cables-rods-brackets or electrically with servos-rods-cables-brackets. Either way it's pretty cool because it takes the impossible guess work out of how much to slow or reverse one hydro while speeding up the other at the same time. Cub Cadets version is really cool because everyone is familiar with a steering wheel as it really is the most simple thing to learn. The joystick has a little bit more of a learning curve.
Very cool. I haven’t seen those.
Have had my Country Clipper Challenger for 11 years mowing close to 6 acres here. The joystick has been flawless and very comfortable for mowing. Zero repairs so far,oils and filters and blades,that's it. Biggest plus is cleaning the deck,go watch some videos ,guarantee you'll be impressed
@@jimbennett1519 My Uncle Don has a Country Clipper with the joystick. It's a nice machine and he loves it. I got fairly good with it in about ten minutes. I'm guessing it would be second nature inside 2-3 mowing sessions.
@@jimbennett1519 I'm not sure where my earlier reply went. My uncle has a Country Clipper with a joystick and he loves it.
@@todd9453 they are a great machine
Nice infomercial. Of course completely non-biased but at least you admitted that it is just a sales infomercial. Some of your peers pretend that they buy the stuff in their infomercials
I do think honesty is important about how you got the product.
Local dealership is letting me borrow this. Might be a week might be a month. I don’t know.
I already have a nice mower and don’t need this. I’m not paid by the dealership. I’m not paid by cub cadet. It’s just some guy saying what he thinks.
The only compensation I received is that when I drive this mower, I’m not depreciating my own mower
The Mickey Mouse design under the foot deck is foolish why let debris in? Also love the trip point with the cable deck height knob and will always kick it often. Who designs this stuff?
That was a heck of an explanation Brock. Thanks. I also see where that design is much much more stable on a side incline.
The shopping cart analogy is THE best selling point when mowing on slopes, especially around ponds, major pucker. Kind regards
I think it is a suicide knob....but Im old lol
that is not 4 wheel steer!!!!!!
It definitely is.
If you need help thinking about it… How many wheels does a traditional zero turn mower used to steer? Does it have steering at all? Is it zero wheel steering?
I drove this one it is fast has great tork doesn't spin the tires on take off or sharp cornering i would love to have one but the cub i bought about 15 years ago is still in great shape.
mike morgan did a video also on that machine
Looks like a great mower. A friend of mine has a Cub with the steering wheel and he loves it..
I have had mine for 6 years, I would buy it again. it works on my side hills along my driveway.
It looks nice very heavy duty build, can do the job. Just little to high. I just bought a scag zero turn mower last year plus a discount.
You bought a SCAG, LOL, you obviously didn't have any issues with paying a bunch of $$$ for that so, no really the $15k for a zero turn with a 4 wheel steer capability is pretty reasonable.
SCAG has some damn good stuff for sure, but they want ridiculous prices to go with them too. Even the old belt drive walk behinds are $6K+ anymore.
@@wildbill23cScag makes cheap mowers with Chinese engines, and they make real commercial mowers too. Both of my brothers have cheap Scag Freedom mowers, and while they’re okay mowers, they’re nothing special. Their mowers were about $5,500 for a 52” cut, and they have the same Kawasaki engine (1 less hp) and same Hydrogear transmissions as my 60” Cub cadet, but my mower has a way nicer seat, much larger tires, roll cage, and each of my transmissions have a reservoir that makes it easy to do transmission fluid changes and just to check your fluid levels. I got my mower on sale for $3,500 and it feels like it should cost thousands more than their Scags. I’m not insulting Scag, they also make awesome, expensive commercial mowers that can be used all day every day.
If one cannot perform a turn on a zero turn mower without tearing the turf then they need to practice that maneuver. Most people are too lazy or impatient. However, once the technique is mastered , it's like brushing your teeth. When I trained my employees to do this, it took them usually 2-4 weeks to develop the skill. I really like this machine though, side hill mowing is a slippery slope, lol.
Hi Brock - I have this exact same mower. Had it for one season and put 50 hours on it. The best mower hands down I have ever had, and I have owned almost every type of mower you can imagine. This thing is a tank! If you see it in person, you will notice how thick the steel is everywhere on this machine. As you mentioned - no grease fittings! You explained the steering perfectly and it is precise. I load mine on a trailer with less than a 1/2-inch clearance on either side. People see me get ready to load and they say - you will never get that thing on that trailer without a fight, and with a standard ZT that would be correct, with this one it is never an issue, the steering is so precise. It is also very fun to drive, like a go-cart, and it will go as fast you want, I never use it with the pedal to the floor, even moving from one part of the property to the other - too fast. CUB has been around a long time, and they really hit a homerun with this machine - it's impressive in every way.
You explained the complexity of this whole machine perfectly - good job and keep up the great work on the videos!!
Thanks for sharing
I was looking real hard at these Cub Cadets. Didn't see any available in my area so I went with a stand up mower. I'd be interested in how well that suspension seat works on these models. I'll search out a dealership that has these once I get tired of my stand up.
FYI: I came off of a Dixie Chopper Magnum. The non-suspension mower killed my back. The stand up I have now is great for my back and Is worlds away more comfortable to mow with.
Personally I think it's stupid to cut grass that high with your mower, your mower's designed to cut lawns not brush or big tall grass why do you want to pay all that money for a mower and then tear it up. If you got grass that tall beside your building take one of those tractors you have put a brush hog on it and cut it. There's no way I would take my John Deere 2032R out there and cut grass like that with it, I'll guarantee you my tractor will cut just as good as at zero turn. I can see a zero turn if you're in the commercial yard mowing business because speed is everything but just for mowing your grass I'd get a John Deere 2032R and mow all day long and then you can use the tractor for other things. I get done mowing my yard it looks like a golf course.
great review I always wondered why other companies didn't come out with their version with a steering wheel and you clarified it, because they have an exclusive patent. your property looks great, just wondering though why not grade the area flat next to your shed, but it looks like you cut it without any problems. I love your passion about the product again great job.
My dad, 86 years old, would attempt this mower Because of the steering wheel. He won't fool with anything requiring more than 5 minutes to master!
How is it changing the blades
John Deere came out with a steering wheel on a Zero turn mower years ago when Zero Turn Mowers were just getting started. I know because they let me try one out on my own yard. didn't like it, and bought an X300 instead.
my question is whats the warrenty process like for this mower, because cub cadet on alot of the lawncare forums has alot of horror stories. this machine looks amazing, id love to own one, but how nice the company is to deal with if something breaks is just as important to me.
Anyone ever compare the Gizmow? Bright green and looks very well built too
You could literately buy eight Hustler Raptors with a 48" deck 23.5HP for the price of what one of these will be. Come on Cub get real........BTW.... I mowed for five season in the late 80's early 90's with Hustlers. I STILL have a 1991 Hustler 260K--20HP Kohler that I use on my lawn. Doing maintained lawns doesn't put a lot of wear and tear on good mowers.
Ive seen a couple different zero turn brands with steering wheel. One was a toro i believe. They were smaller mowers though
Personally your whole thing about the hands on the levers or wheel I just stop and take a sip of a drink or if I’m gonna be there longer turn on my parking brake and throttle down
How come the professional lawn companies don't run ScrubCadets?
You would have to ask them. The rep told me that their biggest customer is municipalities. Where city workers are running these 12 hours a day and they unlimited hour warranty.
I would say the short answer is that some of them are
I really like the concept behind this Cub Cadet mower.
Any update on the bee hives Brock?
Good, Thx
My ferris has 4 wheel suspension I would rather have suspension
We bought a very used commercial Cub Cadet Z Force mower with the steering wheel 6 years ago. It's been a great machine and so easy to drive the wife mows more than I do now. I'd recommend Cub Cadet ZTs to anyone.
I got a Cub Cadet Zero Turn. It was the worst decision I ever made! Hard to start, left lots of grass stubs, and worst, the grass quickly builds up on top of the battery and pulleys so after about an acre, it kills and must be cleaned. I brought it back and got a John Deere.
28:20 Amen! It really is the best for mowing slopes. I live on a hill side, & can attest to this first hand.
I'd sure never pay that for any mower but I can't complain about my much cheaper Cub RZT50 Kawasaki. Bought new Spring 2012 and mow 2 acres each March - October. Never a problem. Just change oil and filters once a year, sharpen and replace the blades as needed, never use ethanol gas and always use Stabil. Still runs and mows like new.
All of the mowers that I’ve been reviewing or the premium model within a line and are probably more expensive than I would buy
Being said the steering wheel design goes all the way down to their lower in products
I have the pro-Z100 model it is the best zero turn ive owned but its a crime they discontinued it
I wish my truck had twin sticks.
Many reviewers have been super impressed. It's crazy what the dual wheel setup can tackle.
I just can't see the driving gears under the deck holding up with my sandy yard in central Fl. To much sand getting thru the holes in deck let alone what comes in from other places. To bad it looks interesting other wise.
My walker is 24 years old. all original except for the blades and fuel pump.
Cool. A friend of mine is looking for a zero turn with steering wheel. Thank you.