That was a fantastically accurate description of exactly what I think I'm hearing on my recently added M Scaler. You described it perfectly....I'm still acclimatising to the sound but already consider that it's the best I've ever heard some of my familiar tunes. looking forward to watching some of your other vids 👍
The only thing about hqplayer, it is just such a fuss. Not for a desktop/headphone situation, but in a clean living room situation. And don’t forget, with the higher hqplayer filters (quite some power too). But I agree hqplayer can sound good as welll.
Love the M-Scaler and TT2 combo. Watching UA-cam on my Mac and then sending signals to my Silent Angel Rhein Z1 Plus Roon server to M-Scaler makes sounds enjoyable.
Thanks so much for this. If you are still offering a more in-depth vlog about this item, I’d definitely like to watch it. Or in general a vlog about how DACs work, what upsampling is and pre-ring, transients etc. I still can’t get my head around it properly, so any explanations would be appreciated. Thanks for all your vlogs.
Very excited for the coral M scaler as well. I just got the Dave back in three days ago I’m going to do a different aspect of a review for this product as a standalone device, I love it
@ConvinceMeAudio that's so awesome. Many people I know rewatch your videos many times as they have a nice aspect of relaxation/ASMR to them. Looking forward to that video for sure. If you end up having time to discuss the Dave's HF on vs off and Crossfeed specifically with headphones/Susvaras, I think you would have the only video on internet to talk about it. Have a good one! Love your channel! P.s. Chord / Rob ConvinceMe convinced me to buy a Dave! Thank you @convincemeaudio
Good info, Debating adding this to my Chord Qutest, strange he mentioned he only thought it was worth it adding to the TT2 though. I love the Qutest and it should make a huge improvement in theory. Or would that money be better spent swapping the Qutest for the TT2 I wonder? I have a Simaudio Moon 230HAD headphone amp currently in line with my Qutest
Do not buy this for lesser DATs TT2 Dave will serve, you much better appraised into the DAC, rather than getting this for the Hue go to I have the Hugo two with a 2go here, right now, it’s basically a cutest, and I’ve tried it with a M scaler no go It’s definitely improves it, but at TT2 by itself will beat that combo. LOL
@@ConvinceMeAudio thank for the info, that’s what I was wondering. So now that gives me an upgrade plan that makes the most sense. Is the TT2 good enough on its own without adding an additional amplifier (im only using it for headphones)
@@hurstnova350 if you don’t have SUS, you’re fine LOL definitely I love it it’s one of my favourite units, if the worst comes to the worst get an adapter made and go out of the taps at the back
I was at the Toronto Audiofest yesterday ( Saturday) ..not much in headphones and IEM’s….though the few that were there were into IFI products as their amplifier/ DAC chain. This is a true gilding if the proverbial lily. Thank you .
I have people recommended that I must put the M-Scaler away from the TT2 instead of stacking them together, they claimed a huge improvement in sound and reduced noise. Others suggested I add the SRC-DX and the OPTO-DX. Anyone with experience and expertise to share?
I demo’d the M-Scaler with the Qutest. I didn’t hear a lot of difference and it made me realise that I am happy with the Qutest alone. Enjoy your equipment, you don’t need to keep looking for the next “thing” to improve your sound.
I own the qutest, difference was smaller. On the tt2 however, the change is dramatic, if the rest of your equipment is up for it. And up to it, I mean the amplifier, speakers. And that saying the tt2 is already better than the qutest. Even with my hifiman planars arya and 1000se it was. Noticeble
Hi again, ok just to clarify a point, the Chord Anni runs warm to hot , with TT2, what is tbe way it dissipates heat as i dont see any venting for heat generated inheadphones usage
Apologies, I’ve not had that unit in for review yet for a thorough testing, so I can’t be sure, but the advice I would give is try not to stack it with other units and see how that goes
"Who is it for?" People who haven't heard of the HQPlayer 😉 But seriously, though, I can see the appeal of it if one's already got a high-end Chord product, like the TT2 or the Dave. They surely work superbly together, akin to Apple's ecosystem - a comparison you've briefly mentioned as well. I'd love to hear you review both the HQPlayer and the MScaler; however, it would be hard to believe that the conclusion would be different than that the HQPlayer is not only waaaay cheaper but it also allows one to configure their sound however they want - so it's objectively better on every front, except if one is after a plug-and-play device with a particular filter in it, designed and chosen by Chord (as opposed to having the freedom to experiment). However, I have another question - what's the actual audible difference between Roon's upsampling and the MScaler? I absolutely appreciate that from the technical point of view only the HQPlayer can match (and exceed) Chord's algorithms' complexity; however, when I put my Gustard X26 Pro in NOS mode (in which its internal filters are bypassed) and feed it signal upsampled by Roon - I am experiencing the exact same things that you (and many others) have heard the MScaler do. So, naturally, I'm wondering if Roon's built-in upsampling pretty much does the same job (at least for non-Chord DACs) as the MScaler, or at least one that is close enough not to worry about the differences.
I agree with what you are saying, it’s the plug and play nature which is appealing to me. Plugging it in to TT2 or Dave is an apple-sque experience in my view. I use my Mac and multiple iOS devices to listen to my music and think this fits in to the chain more naturally than an HQPlayer which arguably more powerful has a learning curve which doesn’t appeal to me. And with Hq you are limited to a powerful PC to listen to your music.
@@suhaib1249 I think the last point you made is a misconception because not much power at all (in PC terms) is needed to do PCM upsampling, including using as complex a filter as the MScaler's (it's the DSD upsampling that requires a beast of a PC) but apart from that I get what you're saying 👍
I will conduct a thorough test during the Op sampling review where I will put HQ player vs roon native, audervana in conjunction with the M scaler As you can appreciate this analysis and review will be rather complicated and in-depth, so it will be a little while yet. I have 30 reviews on the desk when I get back to the UK, I’m currently away on a break. But I will get around to it, most likely around the same time as the May KT review
This is correct, DSD is a hungry beast, but I currently use 2 million taps, I think in fact it might be 4 million I need to check the settings again, with Apple M1
@@ConvinceMeAudio I surely lack the technical expertise to appreciate what's going on here, but I can't help but wonder - what's the appeal of DSD conversion and upsampling? I'm aware of the super-high bitrate that it utilises and the sophisticated noise-shaping techniques/algorithms used - but it seems to me that this only serves to solve problems created by the PCM to DSD conversion in the first place, namely - the creation of vast amounts of additional noise which needs to be filtered out. I guess it would make sense to do this if one's DAC handled DSD much better than PCM, but as far as I know that doesn't seem to be the case with the most popular (including very expensive) DACs. So why go to all the trouble (and electricity consumption) of doing DSD upsampling as opposed to PCM upsampling? Perhaps I'm missing something here.
@@ConvinceMeAudio no sweat, it would just have been for the entertainment value. I have a mojo2, but I don't think I would swing my credit card to buy an M scaler for it, but it would be fun to hear about the results
Sorry but this is such BS. I have the m scalar on the TT2. It’s not instant instant, can’t live without it, another level. Yet another fake incentivised review.
I can tell you for a fact that this is not incentivised in any way. I know Koji personally and can assure you he has no affiliation with Chord. All Chord products he has reviewed so far have been from his telegram community. Please be respectful even if you don’t agree with a view before hurling baseless accusations.
@@suhaib1249 so it's not a loan machine for which a positive review garners more loan machines, more views, more revenue, more loan machines, more views, a virtuous circle of revenue generation?? if you're really honest and step back, you'll see this reviewing industry is a very long way from being neutral and truly objective.
Says the individual who prowls through reviews LOL hilarious Unless you’re specifically looking for somebody to bolster up your bias? You’re not gonna find that here.
That was a fantastically accurate description of exactly what I think I'm hearing on my recently added M Scaler. You described it perfectly....I'm still acclimatising to the sound but already consider that it's the best I've ever heard some of my familiar tunes. looking forward to watching some of your other vids 👍
Thank you for the kind words, deeply appreciated, welcome to the fam 🐅
Yes a M Scaler - HQ Player discussion would be awesome
The only thing about hqplayer, it is just such a fuss. Not for a desktop/headphone situation, but in a clean living room situation. And don’t forget, with the higher hqplayer filters (quite some power too). But I agree hqplayer can sound good as welll.
Love the M-Scaler and TT2 combo. Watching UA-cam on my Mac and then sending signals to my Silent Angel Rhein Z1 Plus Roon server to M-Scaler makes sounds enjoyable.
Another great review! Keep it up! Looking forward to watching your Utopia review!💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Thanks so much for this. If you are still offering a more in-depth vlog about this item, I’d definitely like to watch it. Or in general a vlog about how DACs work, what upsampling is and pre-ring, transients etc. I still can’t get my head around it properly, so any explanations would be appreciated. Thanks for all your vlogs.
i like this guy he is very exacting to the point
What a beautiful perfect detailed video. Thank you bro! Just got a discounted used Dave thanks to you and saving up for the V2 of the M scaler
Very excited for the coral M scaler as well. I just got the Dave back in three days ago
I’m going to do a different aspect of a review for this product as a standalone device, I love it
@ConvinceMeAudio that's so awesome. Many people I know rewatch your videos many times as they have a nice aspect of relaxation/ASMR to them. Looking forward to that video for sure. If you end up having time to discuss the Dave's HF on vs off and Crossfeed specifically with headphones/Susvaras, I think you would have the only video on internet to talk about it. Have a good one! Love your channel!
P.s. Chord / Rob ConvinceMe convinced me to buy a Dave! Thank you @convincemeaudio
Great review sir
Great review bro.
Good info, Debating adding this to my Chord Qutest, strange he mentioned he only thought it was worth it adding to the TT2 though. I love the Qutest and it should make a huge improvement in theory. Or would that money be better spent swapping the Qutest for the TT2 I wonder? I have a Simaudio Moon 230HAD headphone amp currently in line with my Qutest
Do not buy this for lesser DATs
TT2 Dave will serve, you much better appraised into the DAC, rather than getting this for the Hue go to
I have the Hugo two with a 2go here, right now, it’s basically a cutest, and I’ve tried it with a M scaler no go
It’s definitely improves it, but at TT2 by itself will beat that combo. LOL
@@ConvinceMeAudio thank for the info, that’s what I was wondering. So now that gives me an upgrade plan that makes the most sense. Is the TT2 good enough on its own without adding an additional amplifier (im only using it for headphones)
@@hurstnova350 if you don’t have SUS, you’re fine LOL definitely I love it it’s one of my favourite units, if the worst comes to the worst get an adapter made and go out of the taps at the back
I was at the Toronto Audiofest yesterday ( Saturday) ..not much in headphones and IEM’s….though the few that were there were into IFI products as their amplifier/ DAC chain.
This is a true gilding if the proverbial lily.
Thank you .
I have people recommended that I must put the M-Scaler away from the TT2 instead of stacking them together, they claimed a huge improvement in sound and reduced noise. Others suggested I add the SRC-DX and the OPTO-DX. Anyone with experience and expertise to share?
I never had such problems. I use storm BNC cables that are very well shielded and everything was spectacular.
Do you think Wave cables are mandatory? I used to own a Mscaler with standard cables and didnt hear a big difference.
@@N02tradamus I use the storm, and with the combo they’re absolutely phenomenal
I demo’d the M-Scaler with the Qutest. I didn’t hear a lot of difference and it made me realise that I am happy with the Qutest alone. Enjoy your equipment, you don’t need to keep looking for the next “thing” to improve your sound.
I own the qutest, difference was smaller. On the tt2 however, the change is dramatic, if the rest of your equipment is up for it. And up to it, I mean the amplifier, speakers. And that saying the tt2 is already better than the qutest. Even with my hifiman planars arya and 1000se it was. Noticeble
@@Cestmoi50 I demo'd the M=Scaler and TT2. I still prefer the Quest and I do have a great hifi. Just my tastes I suppose.
@@nespressoman qutest more clear sounding, tt2 more smooth/analogue. Both very good. In my set the qutest sounded somewhat thing
+10 review. thanks.
We need the HQPlayer vs MScaler video asap! 😇
That review is rather complicated, but I will complete the whole process with a bit of luck within November
Hi again, ok just to clarify a point, the Chord Anni runs warm to hot , with TT2, what is tbe way it dissipates heat as i dont see any venting for heat generated inheadphones usage
Apologies, I’ve not had that unit in for review yet for a thorough testing, so I can’t be sure, but the advice I would give is try not to stack it with other units and see how that goes
"Who is it for?"
People who haven't heard of the HQPlayer 😉
But seriously, though, I can see the appeal of it if one's already got a high-end Chord product, like the TT2 or the Dave. They surely work superbly together, akin to Apple's ecosystem - a comparison you've briefly mentioned as well.
I'd love to hear you review both the HQPlayer and the MScaler; however, it would be hard to believe that the conclusion would be different than that the HQPlayer is not only waaaay cheaper but it also allows one to configure their sound however they want - so it's objectively better on every front, except if one is after a plug-and-play device with a particular filter in it, designed and chosen by Chord (as opposed to having the freedom to experiment).
However, I have another question - what's the actual audible difference between Roon's upsampling and the MScaler? I absolutely appreciate that from the technical point of view only the HQPlayer can match (and exceed) Chord's algorithms' complexity; however, when I put my Gustard X26 Pro in NOS mode (in which its internal filters are bypassed) and feed it signal upsampled by Roon - I am experiencing the exact same things that you (and many others) have heard the MScaler do. So, naturally, I'm wondering if Roon's built-in upsampling pretty much does the same job (at least for non-Chord DACs) as the MScaler, or at least one that is close enough not to worry about the differences.
I agree with what you are saying, it’s the plug and play nature which is appealing to me. Plugging it in to TT2 or Dave is an apple-sque experience in my view. I use my Mac and multiple iOS devices to listen to my music and think this fits in to the chain more naturally than an HQPlayer which arguably more powerful has a learning curve which doesn’t appeal to me. And with Hq you are limited to a powerful PC to listen to your music.
@@suhaib1249 I think the last point you made is a misconception because not much power at all (in PC terms) is needed to do PCM upsampling, including using as complex a filter as the MScaler's (it's the DSD upsampling that requires a beast of a PC) but apart from that I get what you're saying 👍
I will conduct a thorough test during the Op sampling review where I will put HQ player vs roon native, audervana in conjunction with the M scaler
As you can appreciate this analysis and review will be rather complicated and in-depth, so it will be a little while yet. I have 30 reviews on the desk when I get back to the UK, I’m currently away on a break.
But I will get around to it, most likely around the same time as the May KT review
This is correct, DSD is a hungry beast, but I currently use 2 million taps, I think in fact it might be 4 million I need to check the settings again, with Apple M1
@@ConvinceMeAudio I surely lack the technical expertise to appreciate what's going on here, but I can't help but wonder - what's the appeal of DSD conversion and upsampling? I'm aware of the super-high bitrate that it utilises and the sophisticated noise-shaping techniques/algorithms used - but it seems to me that this only serves to solve problems created by the PCM to DSD conversion in the first place, namely - the creation of vast amounts of additional noise which needs to be filtered out. I guess it would make sense to do this if one's DAC handled DSD much better than PCM, but as far as I know that doesn't seem to be the case with the most popular (including very expensive) DACs.
So why go to all the trouble (and electricity consumption) of doing DSD upsampling as opposed to PCM upsampling? Perhaps I'm missing something here.
And how to turn on/off ????
@@darlew777 the unit or bypass? I believe it was the left button this has been awhile.
@@ConvinceMeAudio the unit
Hey, just for shits and giggles, could we get a review of the mojo2 with the m scaler? Love your vids man
That would not be too problematic, I could do a video with a lower DACS, but I do need a jewel data cable
@@ConvinceMeAudio no sweat, it would just have been for the entertainment value. I have a mojo2, but I don't think I would swing my credit card to buy an M scaler for it, but it would be fun to hear about the results
sorry you are blind?
Yes
Sorry but this is such BS. I have the m scalar on the TT2. It’s not instant instant, can’t live without it, another level. Yet another fake incentivised review.
I can tell you for a fact that this is not incentivised in any way. I know Koji personally and can assure you he has no affiliation with Chord. All Chord products he has reviewed so far have been from his telegram community. Please be respectful even if you don’t agree with a view before hurling baseless accusations.
@@suhaib1249 so it's not a loan machine for which a positive review garners more loan machines, more views, more revenue, more loan machines, more views, a virtuous circle of revenue generation?? if you're really honest and step back, you'll see this reviewing industry is a very long way from being neutral and truly objective.
Says the individual who prowls through reviews LOL hilarious
Unless you’re specifically looking for somebody to bolster up your bias? You’re not gonna find that here.
I hate the mscaler and hate you😂😂 I borrowed a tt2+mscaler and can’t go back anymore. And I did not have this freakin problem in the past😂😂😅
😂❤️ happy holidays, definitely makes a difference