What Is The Best Tree Stand For A Mobile Hunter In 2021
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2021
- What Is The Best Tree Stand For A Mobile Hunter In 2021
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Thanks, again Jason for all your great tips and video's. I've been hunting with traditional bow's for almost 30 years and switched over to LW stands and stick's last year after watching your videos, and boy did it make a big difference in my hunting. Thanks again.
Awesome! Glad you hear that stand has made a difference! I truly believe that features of these stands make such a big difference for a mobile hunter. Glad it has worked great for you as well!
Started hunting mobile last year and purchased the Assault 2 that you suggested. Couldn't be happier with it and allows me to hunt a variety of trees. I put in the work last winter and have 21 stand locations so I'm not burning out my spots. Thanks for sharing your insights. It has totally changed my approach and makes hunting much more enjoyable
Love hearing this! Everything about this comment makes me smile. Great stand, great tactics, great game plan! Love it!
Love the video! I have the Novix and love it! With my three climbing sticks and an aider, I feel ready for the upcoming season which will be my first real season as a mobile hunter. Been practicing all spring and summer, and your videos have been the best guide and inspiration for me. Thanks!
Love everything about this comment! Great stand, love thst you are practicing with it and developing the system that works for you. It will be a great season for you.
@@SamkoTradBow Thanks! I encourage all new tree hunters to get out and practice. Do it over and over so you know your mobile gear as well as you know your bow, and watch videos on this UA-cam channel. I actually consider the vids from here an integral part of my hunting gear!
@@gcnphilly yep the practice is vitality important. And we'll said whe you relate it to practice with your bow! Glad you are enjoying the channel!
Several guys with the OOAL Hush stand have been mounting them on crooked trees without any issues. I don't have an any problems hanging mine in a crooked tree. It's bracket is shaped a little different but can still function like the other offset brackets.
Awesome
I'm just amazed everytime I hang my lone wolf. The speed button, leveling capability, chinch straps and offset bracket have revolutionized the mobile hunter. Andrae had it figured out.
Agree 100%
I’ve went from the LW Alpha to the XOP Air Raid Evolution for a bit more platform space and have been very happy with it.
Awesome! You cant go wrong with either of those stands!
I have the lw assault as my primary for the last few years. Found your channel actually because of that stand. I have a xop vanish for a few preset locations and that small v bracket makes that stand where I need that second strap. It's not as solid, especially on larger trees. I'm really thinking about trying the new little novix just to see if I like the smaller profile. Can't wait to see you're review of the beast.
Looking forward to reviewing the beast stand and so grateful Kevin surprised me and bought me one. I have a call into novix to see if they want to send me a helo to review but its been over a week with no response back. So not sure thst will happen. But I do believe that helo is gonna be an excellent stand!
Thanks, Jason great video! The reasons I tried the LWCG and beast stand is not for carrying the stand but for hanging the stand. I have a bad neck and my arm goes numb setting up stands the .5 at 6lbs makes a big difference!! And as I get older at 55 need all the help I can get!! The Assaults2 is my all time favorite stand just wish 11lbs didn't feel like 30 to me nowadays
All of those stands are amazing stands! I have not tried the beast stand yet (have one coming that a listener bought for me for scouting some of his hunting areas) and never tried the lwcg stuff. But the quality and people that designed them pretty much guarantee they are top shelf stands and well worth having!
Thanks for the info! I use Muddy Vantage point which is a "cheaper" competitor. It is now discontinued. It is fairly lightweight and does the job. They use a powder coat that wears off quick though. Sun hits it you might as well be sitting in on a tin can- not good. I had to go to Lowes and get some spray coat to cover it up. I definitely been looking to upgrade. This video helps.
Glad you liked the video! Any of these stands mentioned will treat you well and really expand the trees you can hunt in and easy of hanging them!
Very informative if someone is looking for a new stand. Glad I’m still using my 30 year old Lon On Limits
Those were amazing stands!
Great video I agree 100% I have studied all these stands in depth and you just nailed it. Love the videos good luck this season
Thank you. They are all fantastic stands! Good luck to you this season as well and thank you.
I’m currently using the lone wolf assault hand climber.i hunt public land in South Carolina and it seems to be the best stand for me. I love it super quiet and stable. Keep the videos coming I love the way you break down the hunt process and I have advanced my hunting skill level thanks to your channel. Thank you so much for responding not all channels do...
@@chadreid1068 that lw hand climber is an amazing stand! Glad you are enjoying the content. I appreciate hearing that and makes all the work worth doing!
Always love your videos Jason! Only other tree stand I would mention is the out on a limb hush stand. That has those options too... even tho there’s been some people bending the post... but it’s also a mobile stand with those options as well.
Never mind you mentioned it at the end. Lol sorry. Didn’t get that far yet. Ha ha
The out on a limb I have very high hopes for. But they need to add the offset bracket. If they do thst it will fit into this category as well. Its still a good stand bit needs that offset bracket to take it to this level. Hopefully they add it soon!
Great video. Got my beast stand and am loving it. It does have more flex than a cast stand, but it's worth it for the weight imo
That flex is to be expected with such a light weight design! But I do not think that flex will ever be an issue. You can't have a platform that light with out giving something up. I think Dan walked that line perfectly between light weight without sacrifice!
Love your content. Last year watching your videos on the lone Wolf assault 2.i bought the combo of the assault 2 and 4 climbing sticks. By putting your info into my mobile hunting it changed everything. I love it to death. Yea there are options but 480.00 dollars for a complete setup of lone Wolf is silly cheap.ill never use anything but this setup again. It changed the way I hunt thanks to you. Great video jason.
Awesome. That rig you have is one of the best stand and stick combos ever made and is my absolute favorite! The ability to be mobile and never let deer figure out what your doing is worth its weight in gold. Cant wait to hear how you do this season!
@@SamkoTradBow thank you. I got all my mobile hunting setup from you. I watch all your videos and I have learned so much.your knowledge is so valuable to me.that assault 2 and the climbing sticks are the best mobile hunting setup there is. I even pack them the way your video showed. I use the swim noodles and yak grips on my cam buckles. Can't wait for another video from you.your the best.thanks again for all the info and knowledge you pass on to everyone.
@@georgehardin8452 this means alot. I really appreciate it and glad you are enjoying the videos! Glad I could help!
I'm still using the Loc-on Limit and the Loc-on Windwalker, these stands are the lightest stands ever made and the easiest stand to hang, company is no longer in buisness!! I do use the Novix mini sticks an love them
Had both of those stands in the 90s. Loved them and wish I never sold them!
I have an old school OG 8.5 pound Assault... Maybe 20 years old. I thought I would never get rid of that stand. The newer Assault 2 is nice, but it's heavier... So I kept the original 8.5 pounder happily hunting from it for years... When LWCG came out, I opted to hold off. Too expensive and I knew there would be kinks in any new product. Fast forward to today and I bought a new stand... The 1.0. LWCG has ironed out all their issues and it's a solid stand. Weighs about as much as the old Assault I have but has much nicer platform leveling, provisions for carrying a backpack, frame pack feature, tie downs in the platform, provisions for their bow holder, etc... There were enough features there that it made it worth it to me.
If I were a new hunter just getting into the game, hard to beat the value in Novix..
Very well said and appreciate the comparison. I have never used a lwcg stand. So it's good to hear first hand knowlege.
Great video buddy! Thanks.
Thanks.
I just ordered a Novix Helo. Been in a saddle (and one-sticking) last couple of years and it’s super compact and all but I’ve noticed there are some trees I just can’t get into. Let me rephrase that, I can get into the tree but not position myself on the side of the tree I need to be on (to stay hidden, ease of shooting into shooting lanes etc). If the tree is a leaner, you are the plumb bob and you pendulum to the low side. Can’t beat gravity. It will win every time lol. I absolutely hate shooting out of stands but you can’t shoot if you don’t even get the opportunity to shoot because you got busted in the tree.
You will love that hello set up
Great review. One thing though I dont think the D'acquisto's own XOP, mever have. They talked about that on a podcast where XOP reached out to Andrae about helping them with their castings. He did help, and Cody got on board and Cody still works for them I believe but Andrae just worked for awhile as a consult. But back to the Novix Helo, I love it and have one. And even though it isnt the lightest I think being under 10lbs for under $250 its the best run and gun stand out there now.
Good to know about xop. I knew Andre was involved and that Cody still was. Just didn't know how deep or what.
Glad you love your helo! It's a fantastic stand!
Great video! The lone wolf custom gear public land .5 stand is lighter than the beast stand though
Very true, but the .5 is very small compared to the beast stand. A light weight stand like the .5 is not that hard to accomplish. Not knocking it as it's a fantastic stand. But the beast stand is a big platform and supe light weight jam packed with good features. Nothing is sacrificed with the beast stand and I would do all day sits back to back in a stand the size of a beast stand. I would not do that in a .5 size stand.
Awesome video. Honestly completely diff video than I expected but loved it! There is no best....it's what's best for you. Can you deal with flex? Narrower platform? Shorter seat post? Shorter length? 2 lbs? 3lbs? It's a give and take.
Thanks! Glad you liked it! Appreciate the comment as well.
The lone wolf alpha stand is what I got and love it. Super easy to lock. Used it with hawk climbing sticks for two years. When I switched to lone wolf sticks this season it was a game changer. I was avoiding the lone wolf sticks due to the staggered steps. They are the best sticks and safest I used. They lock in with no slip even on beech nut trees! I got the beast sticks but can’t find a way to get the stand yet. Still happy with the lone wolf sticks. Can’t even find an assault stand right now. Thanks for the vids and useful topics. Always can count on your expertise!
The alpha is a fantastic stand. Still have one myself and it's the preferred stand by almost everyone that comes to hunt with me. Such a great stand. And yep the lw sticks are my favorite also.
I'M WANTING TO BUY A LIGHTER VERRSION OF MY LONE WOLF, FOR SOUTHERN IOWA. AGAIN, GLAD I WATCHED THIS VIDEO! MANY SELLERS ARE SO VOUGE, ON PURPOSE, I THINK! THUMBS UP!!!
Glad you enjoyed it! I love this stand!!
Been lone wolf guy for 20+ yrs. Not a better stand! Thx for your vids
Right there with ya! I sure do love that more companies are making similar stands as it breeds competition and creativeness! That what caused novix to be created!!
@@SamkoTradBow But the beast stand although cool not $625 cool with cheap seat and bkpk straps. Ha!
@@DavidGonzalez-ek3zh I can definitely see where the price of the beast stand doesn't sit well with people. Bit it's is an engineering marvel to be that size and thst weight. The costs of machining that this is crazy expensive! I want one! I like how it perfectly walks the line of being light with zero sacrifice. But no denying its expensive and no denying you don't need to have it to be a great mobile hunter! My lone wolf stands have served me perfectly for over 20 years, without fail or flaw!
Yep. All four companies are using the same design, which summed up is a single post, flat packing stand with a quiet, solid platform that levels in both directions. Anyone willing to sacrifice some platform width for a little less weight might take a look at the new Novix Helo, my newest stand. It’s quite comparable to the LWCG 1.0 but for less than half the price.
Yep the helo is a sweet stand. Not worth me buying with already having 4 assault stands. As I'd only save a pound and loose some width. But if novix decides to send me one to review I would love to. No response back from the yet. So we will see. But im not buying it as its too close to what I already have.
@@SamkoTradBow I honestly I don’t think I’d want to hunt with a traditional bow from the Helo, anyhow. The Assault 2 is the tried and true Goldilocks standard in my book.
@@davidrussell631 they are almost the same exact stand. Can't go wrong with either of them.
Great video! Do you know what the seat post height is for the new novix helo?
I do not but would imagine it's the same as the lonewolf
I want to try tree stand hunting. When i tried ground hunting had no success but found a small brushy hill that had one oak tree and many deer paths.
Enjoy this stage of hunting its the most valuable. Get a tree stand, sticks, linemanbelt and good safety harness. The go out and scout some good spots. Took me 3 years before I killed a deer. Those 3 years were the most valuable 3 years I ever had. And remeber have fun!
Ghost blind will change your hunting for the better.
I been using Summit Vipers for about 20 years. I have a XOP but I never get up a tree smooth with climbing sticks.. I think it’s because I don’t like change. I been using the summit so long, everything else seems difficult.
As long as it works good for you and your area that's all that matters. Glad you have something that works great for you!
I have a 2012 duramax..BUT!!My hunting right is a 2000 Jeep Cherokee.Just over 200,000 miles on the body and got it with a blown engine for 300$.2 grand for a crate motor.And it’s my daily driver..
Yep love the trucks for normal truck stuff but love hunting out of the suvs! looks like that cherokee has served you well!
One soild piece is definitely quite looking to hang another stand but I already have xop I can't go with something cheaper after having something nice like the xop your thoughts 😀 not to mention when they get cold still remains hush hush
Xop is great stands. If you already love it I'd say get another one. That way everything about your system and set up works the same.
As an update, I found that climbing onto the little HELO at hunting height was a world of difference from climbing on at ground level. While it’s only half an inch narrower than the Beast stand at its widest point, that’s not where you’re stepping when climbing onto it, and so much of the Helo’s platform is just plain narrow. I’d hate to have to turn around on the thing real fast with a deer I want to shoot in view. It’s all good, though. I’m out only $24 after selling it, and not only is my new Assault 2 no more than a pound heavier, I don’t have to carry a bow holder since my Bowtech sits just find in it’s bow holder. Hard to improve on the ASHO2, unless you machined one instead of casting it so it would be lighter. But who’s gonna pay for that lol?
Yeah the helo 9s a nice stand but I think it comes at a size sacrifice compared to the assault and you only save a pound. Thats the reason I was not buying a helo. My assault is better suited for my hunting. Now the beast stand sacrifices nothing and has a lot of gains. Very excited to run that beast stand this season. But the assault is and always will be the best stand ever made in my opinion.
Hope you can review the Hush by Out on a Limb. Looks interesting
Good looking stand. Needs an off set bracket on the back so that it can hang on sideways leaning trees. To me that is one of the most important features on a stand. Bit that stand has some serious potential
@@SamkoTradBow I thought the same but it works really well. you can check out my video. Near the end I hang it on a very crooked tree.
Don’t forget the out on a limb hush treestand that’s now available.
Yep another great option. It didn't have a offset bracket at the time I made this and don't know if it does yet. I sure hope they come out with one soon if they havent
Lone Wolf assault. Hands down. Versatility, price, weight, quiet. Affordable. I don’t know why anyone would spend $500 plus for a Beast or LWCG stand. For a 1# savings. I’m a grown man. I can carry a stand no problem. I’ll never understand the weight weenies. They do realize if they get a deer they have to get it out? They going to hire someone? Not saying they’re not nice stands. Just pointless to spend more. I’ll put that extra money into some tags.
Yea man , some people have become weak these days. I practice when I hike and give my 3 year old piggy back rides.hes 30 lbs so when I throw the stand on its lite as a feather
I can afford to that's why. People who complain about the price are the same type of people who have a $500 a month truck payment.
The light weight craz is definitely in full swing. And I agree with you on not needing a stand to be super light as we only carry it for 15mins to and hour in and out. I do 100% believe like I said in that video that the beast stand is a engineering marvel and is a very fascinating stand being so light and having so much room. I want to have that stand. But I don't need it and it won't make me a better hunter or anything. But it is pure brilliance in design and the price comes from all that labor and time with the machining and finish work. That beast stand is 4 pound lighter and bigger than my assault! But like you said is it needed, most definitely not and the assault is and always will be one of the best stands ever made!
Yep never had a problem carrying my assault stand sticks and gear. Never once felt like I was tired from it or wished it would be lighter. I do 100% believe that beast stand is a engineering marvel though with its bigger size and lighter weight! That impresses me alot.
Well I will complain about the price but still want the stand! I understand why it costs what it does and I do want one. But it definitely is not a necessity to hunt any better but rather a luxury. And I will never fault anyone for owning an expensive one. I want a beast stand bad. But like you said yourself, I have to justify some purchases and I have a 1000 a month truck payment and 2 mortgages, and take 5 months a year off work for hunting....lol so money for wants has to be calculated and thought out.
What aider do you use for your first ladder?
A homemade one. It's 1 inch tubular webbing and it has a 10 inch piece of stiff climbing rope in the loop (also used pex pipe and had great luck).
Out On A Limb Hush is another one
Agree its a great stand. They need to add a batwing offset bracket and it would be an excellent stand! Even thought about buying one and seeing if I could add an offset bracket myself to it and doing a video to teach people how to do it. But just don't have the time right now. Hopefully they will get a offset bracket on it asap!
I’ve owned several LW stands, sticks… In my experience, they’ve come from the factory missing parts and with other serious safety issues. XOP stands are less expensive and I haven’t had any quality control issues as of yet but I’ve only bought one stand. If someone gave me a gift card for a Beast Stand, I would probably use that as my primary stand put can’t justify the cost out of pocket. An XOP Vanish Evolution cost 200. Why would I pay 650 for a beast stand? The difference in cost covers an out of state deer tag. I have a lot of income and am hunting 5 states this year. It’s not about how much money you make but how you manage what you do make that’s more important
Never had an issue with any of the 11 lone wolf stands or stick sets I've bought. Everyone of them have been flawless. The beast stand for me is well worth the price. I will be buying another beast stand as well. Best stand for my style of hunting I have ever used.
Thanks for your reply. Good luck in Georgia
@@AH-mw8vi thank you
Lounge!
You ever use the EZ hang strap from lone wolf/Novix? Thoughts?
Never have. The stand is so well balanced it only takes a few seconds to hang normally and never wanted to carry ro extra strap with the hook. Hears thry work great. But zero experience using one
@@SamkoTradBow gotcha that’s awesome! Trying to sell a couple things and going to pull the trigger on the Helo. Thanks for the info!
@@tylerspoelma997 you will be very happy with the helo!
@@SamkoTradBow thank you sir! Bummer the price went way up
What do you think about summit viper sd climber
Im a traditional bowhunter and can not use a climber. they are to restrictive to straight limbless trees for me to be able to use in the areas i hunt and set up exactly where i need to be. as a trad guy if i have to move 10 yards to a different tree i just cut my shooting distance in half. my whole world is 20 yards in either direction. so a climber is not very good for me with the tree limitations. Have never used a summit climber.
Thanks for your input. Love your channel and all the knowledge you share
If you going to use a summit viper with a long bow, look at a hazemore seat. This will allow you sit higher and get the bar in front down lower out of the way of your bow.
Does xop make a shooting stick?
Good question, don't know.
Jason what system would you use if you only hunted private land and the same land each time you hunted?
If you are hanging a stand each time you hunt then one of these i mentioned! If you are gonna put stands up and leave them any cheap tree stand is gonna work great as you are only bringing it in once a season and gonna be able to trim branches and clear shooting lanes and make the set up great.
I've tried them all and the millennium hang on with the large platform is the most comfortable. The summits are my favorite climbing. I like the lone wolfs but never could hunt long due to comfort.
@@mattd8411 glad you took the time to test and find what works best for you. Hear great things about millennium stands!
@@SamkoTradBow thanks your videos are awesome and supper informative. I believe I waited to long to find me a ram like yours. Lol like hunting for a unicorn.
@@mattd8411 yeah the HD trucks suffer for chip shortage big time. Will be back to normal by winter I think!
What about OUT ON A LIMB? Hush stand.
Great stand but doesn't have an offset bracket on the back to hang if on leaning trees. If they add that it would be a great stand.
@@SamkoTradBow I bought one so it was light carry. Was not aware that it could not work on leaning trees. I will send them a message for more clarification. Thanks
@@KS-ud8pg it's a great stand and you will love it. I'm betting they come out with a bolt on batwing bracket for it in the near future. That would take it to the next level for tree selection freedom and comfort hunting from those weird angle trees.
@@KS-ud8pg might even be able to mount a lonewolf bat wing bracket in it as well. If not and they don't offer a batwing soon don't worry. It's still a fantastic stand and better than 99% of the other stands out there. It will serve you well and you will be very happy!
The Hush stand has no problems hanging on a crooked tree. The bracket is shaped slightly different but still acts like an offset bracket. You can't bolt on an offset bracket because the internal leveling system in the post.
the lwcg .5 is the lightest but it's to small
Yep its more of a saddle platform with a seat..lol
@@SamkoTradBow for sure i got the novix helo with the tethrd gen 3 sticks it's lighter and cheaper then my buddies beast stand and sticks
@@TheJoeml85 the helo is a great stand. The beast stand is my alltime favorite stand ever made. But it's pricey
@@SamkoTradBow yeah for sure i was gonna pick one up but it was cheaper to just cheap my novix and get the gen 3 sticks
No millenium ?
They make great stands but never tried them
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Awesome. Heard great things about the lwcg stands
Saddle
Knew sooner or later someone would say that! Not for me though. Never liked saddles. And carrying a couple more pounds doesn't bother me.
Great info Jason thanks for putting out this video. I went with XOP a few years ago I have 6 of them all together. I have 5 of the XOP hang on Maximus the largest hang on they made the platform is 34x24’’. I use these on the private land we hunt and we leave them up for the entire season along with those my hunting partner has 3 Lone Wolf Alpha hang ons that we leave out on the same property for the season as well so we have plenty of options for that property. I am not sure if they make the Maximus anymore as they have not had them on the website for awhile now so I am glad I got mine when I did. For my mobile hunting I went with an XOP Vanish Evolution the smallest stand XOP makes. For my climbing sticks I went with 4 of the XOP patented locking sticks that are mounted to the stand with their stick transport brackets. I drew a tag for Iowa this year so I am really looking forward to trying out my new mobile set up down there!
Awesome! Those are all fantastic stands and as you know, work great! Congrats on the Iowa tag and can't wait to hear how it goes for ya!