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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- In this episode we take a first look and demo of the Iwata Kiwami. We compare it to other guns in it's price range witha a fan pattern comparison. . The Sagola 3300 gto, the 3m performance and the astro evot 13. Four great paint guns that all have their own strengths. I'll discuss what I like about these guns and hopefully help you decide if one of these guns is right for you. Thank's for watching!
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That Iwata has a really nice spray pattern and looks like it atomizes the clear really fine. I wish I'd bought the 3M gun before I started my project. I think for someone just starting out in car painting, the 3M gun can't be beat, with all the different nozzles that come with it. I think it's probably the best value out there and just a real versatile pro gun at a great price.
Hi Chris’s. Thanks for that review, I’ve been looking for a straight forward assessment on one of these guns for a while and this is by far the best. Already got to many guns in my arsenal but I could not resist ordering one of these Kiwami4 all due to using the previous W400 from years gone by. The W400 was a big game changer for me when they first came out and for the $300nzd off eBay , to good not to buy even though I have no use for it really… straight to the trophy room!
Appreciate it! yeah, great value for the money
What is the CFM ?
Is that a Low or high pressure gun.
Great video as always
Cubic feet per minute, that's the amount of air a tool consumes in order to operate properly. Appreciate your comment and support!
@GarageNoise yes , what is it for that gun lol
@redbaron2448 the Kiwami4 is just under 10 CFM. It's efficient on air, but really takes more effort to dial it in so it doesn't waste paint and create plumes of overspray. If you're just beginning, I don't recommend it. I prefer about 18-20 psi on base with it (fan and fluid dialed to that). The EuroHE is easier to dial in, takes less pressure, and doesn't have the overspray the Kiwami4 has.
I love my Bellaria 1.3 ! The Devilbiss gpi 1.4 also performs well for me
I was looking at your Amazon store. What's the difference between gravity and the pressure fed 3M gun, both kits seem to have a regulator? What do you use?
You want gravity. That's what I use . Pressure fed use pressure to spray the paint. Gavity you put it in and paint.
Can you make a spray gun video using a 30 gal compressor and give your option on the best gun for the D.I.Yer with a small compressor... for painting car panels..
I have been working on putting a series of videos together using a small compressor like that. It will happen soon!
@@GarageNoise Great.. truly appreciate that... can't wait to see some
The texture in your base coat comes from the paint drying to fast when it hits the panel.
Try reducing your gun pressure to 20-23psi.
Slow reducer helps the paint flow flat.
Good video.
Could've been, appreciate the comment and support!
Nice comparison video GN. Always fun to try out a new spray gun :)
Yes it is. Thanks buddy!
Nice video. What size compressor you using?
It's a two stage 5hp 80 gallon compressor produces around 16cfms . Ingersoll rand
@@GarageNoise thanks bro
I hive one its nice
Appreciate the comment and support brother!
Hey garage. Great video. Would the iwata be ok to start with as long as I test and get my settings right? I really want the iwata or the Astro. This will be my first paint job on a car. Thanks for any help and advice you can share.
The Iwata would be one heck of a first gun for sure. One thing I will tell you, you need a good amount of air . It needs 29 psi to lay down that clear. I typically like to paint at lower air pressure since I'm not in a paint booth. You will need something to remove those fumes just a heads up. Its a great gun tho .
have had shity luck with airgunsa so a little leary of iwatas cheap line of guns
Which cup attachment do you use???? Please I need help on this and NONE of mine work
For what gun
For the iWata kawami 4
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About the Astro EVO14, will that gun be capable of spraying metallics without issues? or do you recommend something else with a larger spray pattern ? I have a 30 Gallon 5.5 cfm oil cooled air compressor for my go to. Cheers!
Honestly with that compressor, depending on what youplan on painting a lvlp paint gun like the R500 might suit your needs better. It sprays metallics great and is less money than the astro. Check out my paint gun playlist and check out the r500 and aeropro a610 same gun difficult appearance. I've got plenty of video's in those guns.
Which regulator(s) do you prefer? I see you have a 3M on the Iwata. I have the same, but heard that diaphragm types are better? Is there any truth to that?
edit: But you switched to a digital to do the actual spraying! I'm even more curious now. (thanks)
I really just use whatever, I've never been that concerned about a regulator cause I make adjustments according to how the gun is spraying. The digital one are from harbor freight and seem to work well. As long as they function properly. Thank's for supporting the channel!
@@GarageNoise Alright thanks! I won't bother going down that rabbit hole!
Great video some guns spray better base coat like the astro compare to a wide pattern very wide pattern can cause mottling especially if you use water base and if you live in a high humidity area I use astro he on single stage because I can move fast to wide on a base coat can make your blend bigger than necessary just my thoughts
Hi I need sagola spray gun for my pant both I have only for laquer used I'm from Pakistan how can you deliver how much ginal Price plz
Sagola has went up on it's price this gun is about $450. Spraygunner.com
Does the kawami have a better looking finish compared to the aeropro a610? I'm buying first gun to paint some huge speakers piano black and really having a hard time figuring this gun thing out.
Iwata is a bit better. Other advantages to tho a610 ,low overspray, low air consumption, and its inexpensive
You always use a pressure regulator at your gun I have a filter system and regulator at the other end of my hose do I still need one at the gun to
Technically no but if you want to make quick air pressure adjustments it's easier when you have one on the gun. Thank's fotr the support brother!
I had the older 3m gun plastic gun they chane the cup and they wor crap
All guns seem good. The Kiwami appears to need more tuning to compare. The Sagola appeared to spray heavy and could probably use dialing back on the fluid. The 3M is definitely impressive. The Astro appears like it's predecessor... really needs to dial in the air, fluid, and fan for a tighter pattern that most likely will lessen the fan to about 8". Still reasonable for a LVLP gun.
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As someone who is going to undertake the process of DIY painting their car, but have no access to a paint booth or garage, do you have any tips or videos that I might be able to use?
You should check out Paint Society on UA-cam. He has videos on this.
@@livedeliciously I'll check them out!
@@Awkward_Fox I didn't fully read your comment the first time. I'm actually not sure if he has videos on painting outdoors. If you absolutely have to, it's really just a matter of weather. Rain and wind have to be non-existent while you're painting and while it's drying.
@@livedeliciously Another thing that I have had issues with is pollen. Pollen is one of the most annoying things, and I much prefer wind over that.
@@Awkward_Fox If you have the space, money, and inclination, you could look into buying an inflatable painting booth.
Where did you order the tundra hood from? I am looking for new and both fenders myself. I have 2 of the Kiwamis and they are awesome guns.
I got it at an aftermarket supplier called certifit you can also get it at keystone their nation wide. The nason 498 is an excellent clear.
Thank you I’ve always wondered what would be the best choice in spray guns …
Is this a HVLP or LVLP gun
I don't think it's ethier not positive tho 9.5 cfm's
@@GarageNoise ok thanks
chris its a like from me andy i have the same gun mate KIWAMI 4 you right chris you just get a blue box with IWATTA wrote on and a brush did you say chris full fan 29 psi and 4 1/2 on the fluid as well i wonder if its better than my devibiss gti pro 1.2 or 1.3 so the clear chris full fan 29 ps1 and 3 turns out looking for small droplets andy
Thanks for watching Andy. Appreciate the comment and support!
@@GarageNoise does it matter where that water 💧 trap goes Chris mines at the bottom of the gun so Chris gauge first and then water 💧 trap
@@ANDY-we7mr yes ,should be gun , guage, water trap, air line. a couple of my guns are set up wrong .
Looks like the astro tgrows out alot of paint in a small area? They also make a Kiwami WIDE 4?
Mikes from Jamaica beautiful paint job i love it teacher
Mike from Jamaica! Appreciate the comment and support of the channel!
Try black widow gun hte it sprays simular to the 3m
What size 3m attachment is for the sagola I have one but can't use it
Series 1 #5 3m adaptor
I need the series 2.0 size but thanks for the help 👍
Chris I just bought my dad a blue Tundra and it is the same blue. Please tell me brand of this blue and where you bought it. I need a gallon to repaint his whole Tundra. Thanks for all your info my white one came out awesome
I don't have the color code but it is a oem color . I think the year was around 2015.
@@GarageNoise chris I meant brand name of the blue you used. I have the paint code. Thanks
@@LuisC202 I used nason xl
@@GarageNoise I am getting ready to paint my dads truck. Will i need a gallon to repaint his wholte 2012 Tundra. IT is Toyota Code 8S6 Nautical Blue and trying to see how much it cots and you said you bought it at Oreillys.
Is that good clear?
Anyone know the CFM for this gun?
The sagola?
The Iwata, is 9.5
@@GarageNoise ok great thanks
Ive sprayed WB for 4 years and i cant believe you didnt run that hood lol
(Water Base)
No runs! Appreciate the comment!
U were a little closer than i would be. Iwatas are known to havw runs. But still thw best clear gun i ha e used
What are those round Orange bowls you have connected to your gun on the airline?
Water traps
@@GarageNoiseawesome thanks for the reply!
Which cup adapter does the kiwami take?
S43
How does the r500 stack up against these for clear
I like the Sagola best for clear. Honestly the R500 is not far behind in an experienced hand. It certainly produces less overspray and that makes a difference to me. Appreciate the comment and support!
@@GarageNoise which cap n size was on sagola
@@joblo2299 1.3 hvlp cap, but There is a better cap can't recall which one it is right now. I think it's a tech cap.
I've been thinking about trying the Kiwami 4 out.
It's a great gun! Priced right as well. Appreciate the comment and support!
@@GarageNoise No problem!
Hi mate can you tell what size you used pps 3m thanks
I'm using 1.2 for clear and 1.3 for base.
What 3m size Adapter you are used?
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Can this gun spray sealer?
Yes for sure.
Hi ,may I ask you one question, between iwata ws 400 and sagola 4600 ,which one lay out clear nice?
I haven't sprayed the with those guns but I hear the 4600 is amazing.
What’s the cfm of each gun?
Not exactly sure Gary. I'd have to look it up but their all gonna be between 10-13 cfm's.
The kiwami4 is 7ish cfm so I can run it using one 2hp compressor which is about 7-9 cfm. If I use the astro he or hvlp I have to turn on my secondary compressor a which is 5-7 cfm.
Hi mate any orange peel with this gun? Thanks
It lays out some really nice flat clear. Now, any gun can produce orange peel if your settings and techniques are off but you can certainly lay down a flat finish with this gun.
@@GarageNoise I want painting my car I this gun iwata and devilbiss lite with air cap Te20 Which one is better to use in your opinion, I am confused thanks mate
@@fromaustralia8871 They both are excellent guns for both base and clear the devilbiss pro lite is probably a better all around gun. The only drawback to the Iwata in my opinion is on metallic paint it can atomize the paint too much causing an inconsistent finish.
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CHRIS YOU HAVE YOUR WATER TRAP WRONG BUDDY , I HAVE GAUGE , WATER TRAP AND THE AIR LINE WITH HIGH FLOW FITTING SAME SET UP CHRIS AS YOUR 3M IAM I RIGHT ANDY
Your right