awesome job and I really appreciate the audio because its clear in the video but it's clipping a little bit just so you know maybe adjust the settings or move the microphone away. Thank you buddy awesome video just trying to help.
Nice comparison, all the creator who reviews only shows gaming benchmark but thanks to you i can now knows how good it is for 3d artist , can you please make a detail comparison with 4060 and b580 in 3d rendering. It will help lots of 3d artist who are in tight budget to know whether to go for this gpu or go with nvidia because its alternative gpus may be good in gaming but not in creative work flow .
finally someone made a video on this. I want to get into rendering and modeling and the B580 seems like a good starter card but ive also heard blender crashes if you dont have more than 20gb?
Hey glad to help! Blender runs fine on GPUs with low VRAM. If you mean system RAM, then I could see running out of RAM. But it should run fine on as little as 16 GB of system RAM too. My PC has 64 GB now, and my next one will have 256 GB just in case. So more RAM and VRAM helps a lot, but blender can run low detail scenes with very weak PCs. It's not ideal, but it works.
@@ContradictionDesign thanks for the answer. Will i need for more VRAM for rendering 4k and animating and all or will 16 be ok? building at 1080 or lower and then rendering final 4k i mean.
@Calypso694 16 GB is a good amount for 4k. More is always better. But it is also important to learn to optimize the scene, and decrease detail where it is not needed. So far away objects can be lower resolution textures. But VRAM use depends more on how many textures are in the scene, and how many polygons your models have. If you optimize a bit, 16 GB can do a whole lot of work for you.
@@shanvhere78 I will test the B580 soon. Re-sizable BAR is also a key setting to get the most from the Intel GPUs, as mentioned in the other comments here. So make sure any reviews you see account for that. It makes a large difference for the A770. Like 30% faster in some tasks
I am waiting for the b770 or b780, if they perform better or as much ss 4070 super or 5070super i will consider intel becuz i do both gaming and productivity work
I am hoping we'll see those models too, but from what I have heard, Intel will not have a higher speed GPU this generation. But we can hope. I think that would really make things interesting. Especially at 4070 super type of performance.
@ContradictionDesign b580 is already a 1440p competitive gaming card, I really wish they release a card with more xe cores so it can be good for productivity too
@Sharbzz Me too. There is still some hope that they'll launch a bigger card. And if the b series sells well, the next generation might be pretty incredible too!
thank you very much, I was looking for a video like this. can you tested another creative software like a davinci resolve, premiere pro, illustrator, after effects
You are welcome! I can test this stuff however people want, but I need to find a way to standardize the tests so the results can be comparable. Are there benchmarks for these programs, or should I just create something?
@@deekshithgowda1577 possible, but I would have to try to run all of it on a free trial. Might be hard to get it done that fast. I can't quite afford to buy all of the different softwares yet
@deekshithgowda1577 but I can try to talk to the software guys. Maybe we can make a deal. I think that would be a good thing for them too. I will start thinking about how to do it. I do get asked to try other software fairly often
Well the B580 has fewer RT cores (and Shading units, Tensor cores etc.) than the A580. Clearly the new cores are working much faster. But still I am not expecting B580 to be a render monster, I think it will beat the 3060 12 GB. But I think the 4060 Ti 16 GB is out of reach for the B580. (Fair the 4060 Ti 16 GB is 2x the price). I am though very interested in the B770 (16 GB) and the 5060 Ti (16GB) but we will have to wait till spring before knowing more about those. I am worried about Nvidia's pricing though. It does not look like we will get any cheap 16 GB cards soon. 🙁 Also Intel's pro card are not that easy to find. I am not ever sure you can buy the where I live. And I have not heard of anyone having one. 🤷♂
Yeah I think the Intel models will be on the slower end this round relatively, but also cheap. Do you think there will be a B770? I started to think they wouldn't make one bigger than the B580. But I hope they do! Would make things much more interesting! I am also going to test a 7600 XT this week, so we can see how that does too. It could be an ok value for budget rendering too.
@@ContradictionDesign Well it is pure speculation. But it looks to me like something went wrong with the B770. My guess is that it is delayed and we will here more about it next summer. 🤷♂ The 7600 XT have become a little more interesting as the price has come down. I was just so disappointed with how slow it was when it came out. But 7600 XT and A770 are the cheapest way to getting 16 GB VRAM right now. And they are quite a bit cheaper than the 4060 Ti. So it will be interesting to see them against each other. But Optix just looks very powerful right now. Thus if people can afford it that is what I recommend for rendering. There are not many cards with 16 or more VRAM and if you need more than 16 GB VRAM the price is very very high. That said, blender do have good hardware support and people should use what ever hardware they have to make fun stuff in blender there are plenty of tips and tricks that can speed up rendering times and taking a little longer is also an option. You might run into limitations but just try to work around them, don't stop creating just because you cannot afford a 4090. Also don't buy a 4090 now, wait for the 5090, if you have 2000-2500$ 🙂
I would love to see a B770. I hope you are right about it, and we'll see this next summer. That would be very interesting. 7600 xt will be slow I'm sure, but like someone told me, you can run out of VRAM but you can't run out of speed. So 16 GB at a low price is almost all you need. Although, the ly are still fairly power hungry for what they are. Yeah 4060 ti 16 GB is a much better GPU in every way. But it is a bit silly for $450 depending on who you ask. An army of those would work just fine in a farm though. Really people can do a ton even with 8 GB cards. It is just nice that we are slowly getting higher VRAM hardware finally. The future looks good I think. And yeah 4090 shot up. I have considered selling mine and waiting for a 5090, since it might be a 1 to 1 trade at today's ludicrous 4090 prices. But it would also make a good first addition to my version 2.0 render farm that hopefully happens next year. We'll see. Really I just need an LLC and to start writing off hardware.......
@@ContradictionDesign how if you can get 4060 ti 16gb AMP for 370$ ? is that worth af? and what CPU to combine 12600k or 13400 both same price, is that good for long term?
@@andiii8443 Well a 4060 ti 16 GB at $370 is really a pretty good deal. For the CPU, either of those will work, but newer cores are better in general, so go 13th gen if you're debating between those two
I will test the B580 when they are available. Specs wise, they should be pretty close. But I will have a video with the test results in a couple weeks I hope.
awesome job and I really appreciate the audio because its clear in the video but it's clipping a little bit just so you know maybe adjust the settings or move the microphone away. Thank you buddy awesome video just trying to help.
@@maxreiter2831 Thanks for pointing that out! I will review my mic settings. I had to reinstall some things and I bet I left off an audio filter
Finally, I was waiting forever for this video from you
Sorry to keep you waiting! But we're finally back to new GPU launches now. So there's a lot coming up too
Nice comparison, all the creator who reviews only shows gaming benchmark but thanks to you i can now knows how good it is for 3d artist , can you please make a detail comparison with 4060 and b580 in 3d rendering. It will help lots of 3d artist who are in tight budget to know whether to go for this gpu or go with nvidia because its alternative gpus may be good in gaming but not in creative work flow .
I am glad to help! I can try to get both the 4060 and the B580. We'll see how it goes in the next couple of weeks!
Thanks, i hate when no one made video like this.
You are welcome!
Thanks a lot for the comparison 🙏
You are welcome!
Thanks mate, this is really useful. 😊
You're welcome! Thanks for being here
finally someone made a video on this. I want to get into rendering and modeling and the B580 seems like a good starter card but ive also heard blender crashes if you dont have more than 20gb?
Hey glad to help! Blender runs fine on GPUs with low VRAM. If you mean system RAM, then I could see running out of RAM. But it should run fine on as little as 16 GB of system RAM too. My PC has 64 GB now, and my next one will have 256 GB just in case. So more RAM and VRAM helps a lot, but blender can run low detail scenes with very weak PCs. It's not ideal, but it works.
@@ContradictionDesign thanks for the answer. Will i need for more VRAM for rendering 4k and animating and all or will 16 be ok? building at 1080 or lower and then rendering final 4k i mean.
@Calypso694 16 GB is a good amount for 4k. More is always better. But it is also important to learn to optimize the scene, and decrease detail where it is not needed. So far away objects can be lower resolution textures. But VRAM use depends more on how many textures are in the scene, and how many polygons your models have. If you optimize a bit, 16 GB can do a whole lot of work for you.
@@ContradictionDesign thanks so much for the advice
@Calypso694 you're welcome!
I screwed up and got Sparkle Intel Arc A770 ROC OC Edition instead of the B580
@@shanvhere78 Well I don't know if the B580 is better or not yet. I do like the A770 though
@@ContradictionDesign It seems its faster than the A770
A770 is faster in rendering.
In gaming benchmarks from users do not specify whether ReBAR is turned on in BIOS, that is recommended for Intel ARC.
@@a.k6424 yeah I tested re-bar on and off in an older video for the A770. It made a huge difference in rendering. So this is a great point
@@shanvhere78 I will test the B580 soon. Re-sizable BAR is also a key setting to get the most from the Intel GPUs, as mentioned in the other comments here. So make sure any reviews you see account for that. It makes a large difference for the A770. Like 30% faster in some tasks
I am waiting for the b770 or b780, if they perform better or as much ss 4070 super or 5070super i will consider intel becuz i do both gaming and productivity work
I am hoping we'll see those models too, but from what I have heard, Intel will not have a higher speed GPU this generation. But we can hope. I think that would really make things interesting. Especially at 4070 super type of performance.
@ContradictionDesign b580 is already a 1440p competitive gaming card, I really wish they release a card with more xe cores so it can be good for productivity too
@Sharbzz Me too. There is still some hope that they'll launch a bigger card. And if the b series sells well, the next generation might be pretty incredible too!
thank you very much, I was looking for a video like this.
can you tested another creative software like a davinci resolve, premiere pro, illustrator, after effects
You are welcome! I can test this stuff however people want, but I need to find a way to standardize the tests so the results can be comparable. Are there benchmarks for these programs, or should I just create something?
hey can you do same thing in maya or hudini
@@deekshithgowda1577 possible, but I would have to try to run all of it on a free trial. Might be hard to get it done that fast. I can't quite afford to buy all of the different softwares yet
@@ContradictionDesign ya u r right
@deekshithgowda1577 but I can try to talk to the software guys. Maybe we can make a deal. I think that would be a good thing for them too. I will start thinking about how to do it. I do get asked to try other software fairly often
@@ContradictionDesign i hope they sponscer you .....
@@deekshithgowda1577 yeah that would be awesome!
Well the B580 has fewer RT cores (and Shading units, Tensor cores etc.) than the A580. Clearly the new cores are working much faster.
But still I am not expecting B580 to be a render monster, I think it will beat the 3060 12 GB. But I think the 4060 Ti 16 GB is out of reach for the B580. (Fair the 4060 Ti 16 GB is 2x the price).
I am though very interested in the B770 (16 GB) and the 5060 Ti (16GB) but we will have to wait till spring before knowing more about those. I am worried about Nvidia's pricing though.
It does not look like we will get any cheap 16 GB cards soon. 🙁
Also Intel's pro card are not that easy to find. I am not ever sure you can buy the where I live. And I have not heard of anyone having one. 🤷♂
Yeah I think the Intel models will be on the slower end this round relatively, but also cheap. Do you think there will be a B770? I started to think they wouldn't make one bigger than the B580. But I hope they do! Would make things much more interesting!
I am also going to test a 7600 XT this week, so we can see how that does too. It could be an ok value for budget rendering too.
@@ContradictionDesign Well it is pure speculation. But it looks to me like something went wrong with the B770. My guess is that it is delayed and we will here more about it next summer. 🤷♂
The 7600 XT have become a little more interesting as the price has come down. I was just so disappointed with how slow it was when it came out. But 7600 XT and A770 are the cheapest way to getting 16 GB VRAM right now. And they are quite a bit cheaper than the 4060 Ti. So it will be interesting to see them against each other.
But Optix just looks very powerful right now. Thus if people can afford it that is what I recommend for rendering. There are not many cards with 16 or more VRAM and if you need more than 16 GB VRAM the price is very very high.
That said, blender do have good hardware support and people should use what ever hardware they have to make fun stuff in blender there are plenty of tips and tricks that can speed up rendering times and taking a little longer is also an option. You might run into limitations but just try to work around them, don't stop creating just because you cannot afford a 4090.
Also don't buy a 4090 now, wait for the 5090, if you have 2000-2500$ 🙂
I would love to see a B770. I hope you are right about it, and we'll see this next summer. That would be very interesting.
7600 xt will be slow I'm sure, but like someone told me, you can run out of VRAM but you can't run out of speed. So 16 GB at a low price is almost all you need. Although, the ly are still fairly power hungry for what they are.
Yeah 4060 ti 16 GB is a much better GPU in every way. But it is a bit silly for $450 depending on who you ask. An army of those would work just fine in a farm though.
Really people can do a ton even with 8 GB cards. It is just nice that we are slowly getting higher VRAM hardware finally. The future looks good I think.
And yeah 4090 shot up. I have considered selling mine and waiting for a 5090, since it might be a 1 to 1 trade at today's ludicrous 4090 prices. But it would also make a good first addition to my version 2.0 render farm that hopefully happens next year. We'll see. Really I just need an LLC and to start writing off hardware.......
@@ContradictionDesign how if you can get 4060 ti 16gb AMP for 370$ ? is that worth af? and what CPU to combine 12600k or 13400 both same price, is that good for long term?
@@andiii8443 Well a 4060 ti 16 GB at $370 is really a pretty good deal. For the CPU, either of those will work, but newer cores are better in general, so go 13th gen if you're debating between those two
B580 gpu work with amd cpu or stay with intel cpu.
Yes it will work with either CPU brand.
Does the B580 outclass the 3060?
I will test the B580 when they are available. Specs wise, they should be pretty close. But I will have a video with the test results in a couple weeks I hope.
Rtx 306012gb vs rtx 4060 8gb please
I can probably add a RTX 4060 to the mix.