Great points, I have a food forest and just one syntropic row. I work fulltime as a programmer/designer so for me I need something that is low maintence- which also doesn't yeild as much. Everyone's situation is different. I learn so much from you on how to make things easier.
I think that's the best way. It bothers me that so many people are "fans" of specific ways of farming. You can have a classic garden a syntropic row, a natural farming area, a monoculture plot and some food forest at the same time. Each community or person should find the balance that's right for them
Hey Matt! I did a consultation with you a couple years ago for my 5acre farm out in loxahatchee, thanks again, you gave me some great advice. Anyway I've finally settled on what I plan to do with the property. First, what you said about us not just copying each other is very important. I believe that we are at the beginning stages of a revolution in food production and we really need to learn ( or maybe relearn) how to grow in a sustainable fashion from each other, that's going to come from site specific experimentation. Back to my farm, I've mostly decided it's going to be a botanical garden/small scale plant breeding/hybridizing operation. I have lots of support species in between my various treelings, so I am borrowing that aspect of syntrophic. The support species are more than just chop and drop though, they are wind/frost protection, shade for sensitive tropicals, and sugar pumps for soil biome. My trees just do so much better when they are planted in groups with other tree seedlings. For now, my main focus will be growing as many species as I can get my hands on. Also concentrating on evaluating new jackfruit x champadak hybrids out of malaysia. Secondarily, interspecific Pouteria caimito,torta,aff caimito, unnamed sp,etc hybridizing. Already got my hands on some P. caimito x P. torta seedlings, want to try back crossing with my E4 abiu to remove latex around skin and possibly increase cold tolerance P. torta is said to have. Wish my luck!
Great points! On our farm in Hawaii we have a mix of food forests and have been inspired by you and others to add some agroforestry rows. One con that stands out to me is that agroforestry is challenging when you have varying topography. The straight lines only work well for us where we have a consistent slope. I’m guessing that issue doesn’t come up much in Florida though. Thanks for the great content! 🤙
@@WhatsRipening that makes sense, I just find that without the straight lines there isn’t a big difference with how I plant out the food forest, but that is probably because I have blended so many design ideas already.
Interestingly, your comments reflect the learning curve for us all. It is now almost 50 years since I started out on my own journey in commercial organic food production. Beginning on developing systems in line with the work of Ernst yet being totally unaware. The longer & deeper one works with the soil, which realises is just how little we truly understand about soil ecology. Managing the issues you reference will become evident with time. Enjoy the journey
Could you please share more experience and how your farm has evolved up to the present time...I know it is too much but at least in a nutshell...so we can get an idea how a syntropic agroforestry system looked like after fifty years... cheers
great initiative man, I am from Brazil and do intend to do one in the future around here, my feeling seeing your lines is that you have need more density, I notice you probably does not use a lot of seeds, seeds are magic but they work, the name of the game is seeds to the ground, no misery for that
I've been adapting this to Haiti and I can say even the Portuguese written materials are lacking. I've had to hire good consultants and then create my own educational materials based on what we are doing. It's been a huge challenge, but in the end we're getting a customized high quality program I agree, that's the biggest negative!
looking fwd to someone (anyone) translating some texts into English, until then this will probably remain niche, small & only grow through the few people who attend courses, which is too slow to meet worlds needs...
@@aminchy01 the process of things reducing to their simpler and less connected forms. Less life and ecosystem. Monoculture farming leads to loss of biodiversity, soil loss and eventually the reduction of the life force of an area- final destination desertification. Syntropy is the opposite direction, hence the practice of subtropic agriculture.
Yeah syntropic seems so new to the US. I loved what you were doing with the napier grass for biomass so I thought hey why don't I plant some in my yard! Well... finding the seeds was a challenge I found one person selling a tiny little packet lol. And then germination was a challenge in florida sand. So I decided to go with mexican sunflower instead. Also pigeon peas came up really well and you can chop those but probably not as quickly as you would want it, but it is a legume so nitrogen fixer. Bananas have been great for biomass, and I also steal the neighbors lawn clippings and such. I have a mat of bananas that I've been dumping large amounts of material on that just will not stop producing year round! 5 racks came out of it in one year. The worms are everywhere, this is just in a short time of dumping material on it where previously it was just mayaka sand.
Napier cuttings are easier to start with. We have them available from time to time. The main advantage of napier is that you get several cuts in a season and it keeps coming back until it gets shaded out
Love this in depth content and walk through. We have six 100’ rows in Central Florida, installed over the last two years. Testing different service plants for biomass, as well. Luecana, canna, banana, lemon grass, Napier (we bought from you), pigeon pea, Fakahatchee grass. I’d like to try the seed bomb recipe you mentioned in an earlier video. We have drip tape layed in our rows that we run when installing and with beginning annuals. The biggest difference I see in what we do, is running our chicken and meat rabbit tractors in between our rows, trying to capture some manure nutrients to improve soils. But, you’re right. For Florida syntropics…..the info is hard to find. Love watching what’s worked at your place and how it’s also changed since first planting. Thanks, Matt!
The problem is your way of life example is not a sustainable way of life. Because you being a money empowered hierarchy and documenting the minds of the masses It's probably not a repeatable way of life for everyone on Earth needing to generate provision. You could make this way of life that you try to sell your Services for and by Into something that could be 100% sustainable for 100% of the populations of the Earth. But you would have to give up your hierarchy/ teacher status. And stop speaking to the camera. And simply become one of your fellow village population Practicing this type of nurturing the Earth for their provision Type way of life example, which needs no Teacher type - sellable mind-Indoctnation To prove the way of life most valuable That's being the most sustainable way of life example. That's why I don't Believe in the permaculture business. It's simply not truly Not environmentally sustainable.
Would you recommend planting Napier grass in the tree rows and how long would it take to cut the Napier in a tree row like that say 100m long? How often do you cut it?
I would plant it about a meter or more away from the tree line for easier cutting. Planting it in the tree line would be more time consuming to manage. We cut several times in the summer/fall and maybe one more time in the winter/spring
Or... it may work use subtitles in some videos. ua-cam.com/video/vNsCV57r_7A/v-deo.html it's a braseilian team explaining really well the Syntropic farming
My context in Citrus Co is so different that few of the species you're working with do well up here, but the processes, benefits and the negatives seem identical. I'm still in a hobbyist stage working towards a hopefully future side gig stage, but greatly appreciate all the info you share. Wish I could come down for the class, but maybe I'll be able to swing it for the 2nd or 3rd annual event.
Are you not integrating any livestock browsing or grazing? That seems like the fastest way to have some income from animals products from the inter row areas whether it is chickens, ducks, or geese
Legend, thanks heaps for answering my question. Another reason I asked is because I have been watching a farmer (meadowcroft farm QLD) here in Australia who started a jackfruit and canistel farm on tatura trellis because that's the trend here. Ultimately they said it was a big fail and they have to go through so much work to now remove the trellis etc. So that's why I feel it's important to be honest and transparent. In your case your influencing countless people like myself. So it's good to hear about everything, the good the bad and the ugly. Do you still have the achacha's or are they one of the crops that struggled without irrigation?
Even I from south Portugal, my first preference and style of agroforestry is definitely your! Of course I change the species to try to adapt to my projects but not before I try yours 😅
It's a different climate with summer rain and humid , opposite of your dry Mediterranean. fellow Portuguese from the Azores doing sintropic agriculture
Thanks for expanding the concepts in english. Excellent approach and so applicable in variety of locations. Also the variation from food forest is a choke point but please stay with it. The harvest soon and then continous variation is amazing.
I saw in your earlier videos you used knf and jadam. Would love to hear your thoughts on how they helped develop where you are at now. Do they integrate well with syntropic? Whats your favorite way to build healthy fungaly dominant soil? Thanks! Enjoy your channel!
Another negative is hard to scale since there are no specific machines for that yet Another thing, you need to add some shadow to those mangoes, they are from the high stratum they need 20% shadow. u could add some fast growing tree over there.
Look for CEPEAS videos, it’s the most advanced research institute of syntropic agroforestry in Brazil after Gotsch’s institute itself. There have been many machines developed already, they show it in a few videos.
CEPEAS are great, i love them, Ive been a CEPEAS student myself, the only implement there is ready for sale is a subsoiler with a rotative for soil preparation.@@juliana__simoes
Do you do soil analyses? I.e. send samples to laboratories? Also tissue/sap analysis? One thing I don't like about permaculture and syntropic agroforestry is that they don't seem technical enough. Perhaps I'm missing some important syntropic agroforestry publications? A lot seems based on the notion that we're tapping into some magic silver bullet. I listened to some Ernst presentations and heard some allusions to stimulating plant growth hormones via pruning, and building organic matter. I like all of that, but I'm tired of all these gurus making it sound like they have the magic potion to fix all agricultural ills. I'm sure there are contexts where this style of pruning does not benefit your target plants. Not quite as acute an effect as spraying growth hormone as a foliar, but we're still talking about stimulating growth via hormones. If the target plants lack sufficient base nutrition, then they probably will just not produce a very big growth spurt from the syntropic ag hormone approach, which is still better than foliar spraying of hormone approach, but does not address the underlying problem of nutrient deficiencies in the soil profile. Adding plant growth hormones into the equation might just open an unhealthy plant to insect herbivory. For example, if the soil profile and parent materials contain zero Mg, then it doesn't matter how much chop and drop, the system will never be healthy until Mg is added. That means inputs (maybe lots of inputs initially), which I know is a four letter word for some folks. Maybe it's assumed people already know these things, but I see permaculture and (to a somewhat lesser degree) syntropic agroforestry being marketed towards people who have no agricultural background, so I thought it worth mentioning that these approaches are not panaceas, and should be considered as a tool in a wider regenerative agronomic toolkit.
how much do we really know about plant symbiosis? or how two plants help or hurt each other?? An Encyclopedia of Plant Symbiology would be an amazing book (if it doesnt already exist) I think there are combinations that hurt....and combinations that help....right? but I think the general most exciting idea about this whole thing is you can take barren land and turn it into productive plentiful land with this approach....its just a matter of finding the right combos and making sure you arent hurting yourself through the wrong juxtapositions....and that really wont change no matter what, right? in your example, arent there plants you could introduce that would add Mg? instead of buying inputs to add?
@@adamtash2891 Yes. There is a lot of literature on companion plantings. I would also place cover cropping under that umbrella. Lots of literature on that too. In the example of adding Mg to the soil. It is either present in the soil profile and parent materials in sufficient quantities or it is not. There are your typical soil analyses that measure plant available Mg or exchangeable Mg. And there are different soil tests that will look at all elemental Mg (as well as other elements) present in all of its forms whether or not they are plant available forms. Such tests are sometimes referred to as "mining assays" or "geological assays". If the latter test shows low Mg throughout the depths of the soil horizons, then Mg deficiencies will be common. What you referred to are what's called accumulator plants, and they may be successful at accumulating enough Mg for sufficient growth, but they are still dependent on what's already in the soil profile. You can run these tests all the way through the profile. Even dig a hole 20 feet deep and test all the rocks and soil found in that space. Low Mg on a mining assay is low Mg and will require inputs. Low Mg on a traditional soil test could hint that total Mg is low or it just means we need to do a better job working with the soil biology to access the Mg that is not in readily plant-available forms. That is my understanding anyway. A traditional soil test by itself does not give enough information, and is often used to increase fertilizer sales. A great example of this is the "Potassium Paradox" explained by Dr. Saeed Khan. A couple videos of that are available on youtube. One other weak point of soil testing (which is the fault of the sample taker and not the test) is that it's usually only conducted at the upper soil levels. Often nutrients considered to be deficient or absent in the soil can actually be found at greater depths trapped in clay layers as is often the case with Sulfur and Potassium.
Look for CEPEAS videos, it’s the most advanced research institute of syntropic agroforestry in Brazil after Gotsch’s institute itself. There have been many machines developed already, they show it in a few videos.
Great points, I have a food forest and just one syntropic row. I work fulltime as a programmer/designer so for me I need something that is low maintence- which also doesn't yeild as much. Everyone's situation is different. I learn so much from you on how to make things easier.
I think that's the best way. It bothers me that so many people are "fans" of specific ways of farming. You can have a classic garden a syntropic row, a natural farming area, a monoculture plot and some food forest at the same time. Each community or person should find the balance that's right for them
Hey Matt! I did a consultation with you a couple years ago for my 5acre farm out in loxahatchee, thanks again, you gave me some great advice. Anyway I've finally settled on what I plan to do with the property. First, what you said about us not just copying each other is very important. I believe that we are at the beginning stages of a revolution in food production and we really need to learn ( or maybe relearn) how to grow in a sustainable fashion from each other, that's going to come from site specific experimentation. Back to my farm, I've mostly decided it's going to be a botanical garden/small scale plant breeding/hybridizing operation. I have lots of support species in between my various treelings, so I am borrowing that aspect of syntrophic. The support species are more than just chop and drop though, they are wind/frost protection, shade for sensitive tropicals, and sugar pumps for soil biome. My trees just do so much better when they are planted in groups with other tree seedlings. For now, my main focus will be growing as many species as I can get my hands on. Also concentrating on evaluating new jackfruit x champadak hybrids out of malaysia. Secondarily, interspecific Pouteria caimito,torta,aff caimito, unnamed sp,etc hybridizing. Already got my hands on some P. caimito x P. torta seedlings, want to try back crossing with my E4 abiu to remove latex around skin and possibly increase cold tolerance P. torta is said to have. Wish my luck!
Great points! On our farm in Hawaii we have a mix of food forests and have been inspired by you and others to add some agroforestry rows. One con that stands out to me is that agroforestry is challenging when you have varying topography. The straight lines only work well for us where we have a consistent slope. I’m guessing that issue doesn’t come up much in Florida though. Thanks for the great content! 🤙
Nice! The lines don't have to be straight but it helps to have access lanes that are consistent width
@@WhatsRipening that makes sense, I just find that without the straight lines there isn’t a big difference with how I plant out the food forest, but that is probably because I have blended so many design ideas already.
Interestingly, your comments reflect the learning curve for us all. It is now almost 50 years since I started out on my own journey in commercial organic food production. Beginning on developing systems in line with the work of Ernst yet being totally unaware. The longer & deeper one works with the soil, which realises is just how little we truly understand about soil ecology. Managing the issues you reference will become evident with time. Enjoy the journey
Could you please share more experience and how your farm has evolved up to the present time...I know it is too much but at least in a nutshell...so we can get an idea how a syntropic agroforestry system looked like after fifty years... cheers
great initiative man, I am from Brazil and do intend to do one in the future around here, my feeling seeing your lines is that you have need more density, I notice you probably does not use a lot of seeds, seeds are magic but they work, the name of the game is seeds to the ground, no misery for that
Agreed, we have been using a lot more seeds this past year or so. I haven't talked about that much but it's important for sure
I've been adapting this to Haiti and I can say even the Portuguese written materials are lacking. I've had to hire good consultants and then create my own educational materials based on what we are doing. It's been a huge challenge, but in the end we're getting a customized high quality program
I agree, that's the biggest negative!
It's tough being early, glad you are making it happen over there
Check Fernando Rebelo work, CEPEAS
@@filipedecastro4718 Fernando is a good friend of mine. I have personally visited him 3 times. I've still had to create my own educational materials.
looking fwd to someone (anyone) translating some texts into English, until then this will probably remain niche, small & only grow through the few people who attend courses, which is too slow to meet worlds needs...
Debes seguir a bairon Grow in english
Yeah, syntropy is not for the faint hearted. Entropic farming is more convenient, which is why it became mainstream.
Very true
Whats the meaning of entropic?
@@aminchy01 the process of things reducing to their simpler and less connected forms. Less life and ecosystem. Monoculture farming leads to loss of biodiversity, soil loss and eventually the reduction of the life force of an area- final destination desertification. Syntropy is the opposite direction, hence the practice of subtropic agriculture.
Great video! Really enjoy the walk and talks. It’s so good to see all the plants and trees. 💯
First ,Kindly understand syntropic farming ! Then impart your wisdom.
Geoff Lawton made the observation that the linear rows of Syntropic Agroforestry are less useful as you move away from the equator.
"folks don't understand that they don't understand" 🎯 This is the* biggest hurdle.
Hello from Ireland. Yes we have to figure out what are the best service plants. But in a way i love doing that work.
hey,,saw this from africa,how can i get to attend the course? better yet, may i be able to directly get though to u?
Yeah syntropic seems so new to the US. I loved what you were doing with the napier grass for biomass so I thought hey why don't I plant some in my yard! Well... finding the seeds was a challenge I found one person selling a tiny little packet lol. And then germination was a challenge in florida sand. So I decided to go with mexican sunflower instead. Also pigeon peas came up really well and you can chop those but probably not as quickly as you would want it, but it is a legume so nitrogen fixer. Bananas have been great for biomass, and I also steal the neighbors lawn clippings and such. I have a mat of bananas that I've been dumping large amounts of material on that just will not stop producing year round! 5 racks came out of it in one year. The worms are everywhere, this is just in a short time of dumping material on it where previously it was just mayaka sand.
Napier cuttings are easier to start with. We have them available from time to time. The main advantage of napier is that you get several cuts in a season and it keeps coming back until it gets shaded out
Well in New Zealand they were able to do it years ago and called it Syntropic Agroforestry. And were able to explain it a little more
Love this in depth content and walk through. We have six 100’ rows in Central Florida, installed over the last two years. Testing different service plants for biomass, as well. Luecana, canna, banana, lemon grass, Napier (we bought from you), pigeon pea, Fakahatchee grass. I’d like to try the seed bomb recipe you mentioned in an earlier video. We have drip tape layed in our rows that we run when installing and with beginning annuals. The biggest difference I see in what we do, is running our chicken and meat rabbit tractors in between our rows, trying to capture some manure nutrients to improve soils. But, you’re right. For Florida syntropics…..the info is hard to find. Love watching what’s worked at your place and how it’s also changed since first planting. Thanks, Matt!
I think using the animals otn the system is a great idea! We're running chickens through ours 😊
And that the mojority of the people dont give a shit and they want to eat stuffed crust pizza, taco bell and watch netflix
What about telling us what new mango trees you planted ?
Oops, I forgot! Stay tuned I'll tell the whole story soon
I'm starting to do syntropic with opuntia cactus and capulín cherries. Subtropical
That's cool 😎
The problem is your way of life example is not a sustainable way of life. Because you being a money empowered hierarchy and documenting the minds of the masses It's probably not a repeatable way of life for everyone on Earth needing to generate provision. You could make this way of life that you try to sell your Services for and by Into something that could be 100% sustainable for 100% of the populations of the Earth.
But you would have to give up your hierarchy/ teacher status. And stop speaking to the camera. And simply become one of your fellow village population Practicing this type of nurturing the Earth for their provision Type way of life example, which needs no Teacher type - sellable mind-Indoctnation To prove the way of life most valuable That's being the most sustainable way of life example.
That's why I don't Believe in the permaculture business.
It's simply not truly Not environmentally sustainable.
I'm not sure you watched the video...
Thanks for the input though
Would you recommend planting Napier grass in the tree rows and how long would it take to cut the Napier in a tree row like that say 100m long? How often do you cut it?
I would plant it about a meter or more away from the tree line for easier cutting. Planting it in the tree line would be more time consuming to manage.
We cut several times in the summer/fall and maybe one more time in the winter/spring
"Agroforestry Academy" Check on youtube. You probably know them already. They are brasilian but the videos are in english.
Yes, I'm in some of their videos. Great guys!
Or... it may work use subtitles in some videos. ua-cam.com/video/vNsCV57r_7A/v-deo.html it's a braseilian team explaining really well the Syntropic farming
Ty
My context in Citrus Co is so different that few of the species you're working with do well up here, but the processes, benefits and the negatives seem identical.
I'm still in a hobbyist stage working towards a hopefully future side gig stage, but greatly appreciate all the info you share.
Wish I could come down for the class, but maybe I'll be able to swing it for the 2nd or 3rd annual event.
Are you not integrating any livestock browsing or grazing?
That seems like the fastest way to have some income from animals products from the inter row areas whether it is chickens, ducks, or geese
Only chickens right now for household use. We love them!
Can't wait to try a new system. Even if my system is different! Congrats.
Legend, thanks heaps for answering my question. Another reason I asked is because I have been watching a farmer (meadowcroft farm QLD) here in Australia who started a jackfruit and canistel farm on tatura trellis because that's the trend here. Ultimately they said it was a big fail and they have to go through so much work to now remove the trellis etc. So that's why I feel it's important to be honest and transparent. In your case your influencing countless people like myself. So it's good to hear about everything, the good the bad and the ugly. Do you still have the achacha's or are they one of the crops that struggled without irrigation?
Glad to help. The achachas all got knocked over. We pulled them out to replace with mango
Portugal and Brazil are not the same.
@romanus4879 it's the same language however
So?@@longiusaescius2537
Even I from south Portugal, my first preference and style of agroforestry is definitely your! Of course I change the species to try to adapt to my projects but not before I try yours 😅
It's a different climate with summer rain and humid , opposite of your dry Mediterranean.
fellow Portuguese from the Azores doing sintropic agriculture
Thanks for expanding the concepts in english. Excellent approach and so applicable in variety of locations. Also the variation from food forest is a choke point but please stay with it. The harvest soon and then continous variation is amazing.
We are also going through a bit of a learning curve so we really appreciate this video.
I saw in your earlier videos you used knf and jadam. Would love to hear your thoughts on how they helped develop where you are at now. Do they integrate well with syntropic? Whats your favorite way to build healthy fungaly dominant soil? Thanks! Enjoy your channel!
I have only been using that stuff in my nursery lately. Not enough time to get it into the rest of the property at the moment
Yes: service plants will differ by location
Hit this wall right away. Glad to hear a course in english! Thank you.
Seeing your system there I feel you need to put wood down to soil, prune your old trees to sync with the new born plants
Another negative is hard to scale since there are no specific machines for that yet
Another thing, you need to add some shadow to those mangoes, they are from the high stratum they need 20% shadow. u could add some fast growing tree over there.
I lost most of the fast growing stuff in a big hurricane this year. It's coming back up but it was a big reset for sure
anyone who can build a farm robot for this type of agriculture could be a billionaire
Look for CEPEAS videos, it’s the most advanced research institute of syntropic agroforestry in Brazil after Gotsch’s institute itself. There have been many machines developed already, they show it in a few videos.
CEPEAS are great, i love them, Ive been a CEPEAS student myself, the only implement there is ready for sale is a subsoiler with a rotative for soil preparation.@@juliana__simoes
Do you do soil analyses? I.e. send samples to laboratories? Also tissue/sap analysis? One thing I don't like about permaculture and syntropic agroforestry is that they don't seem technical enough. Perhaps I'm missing some important syntropic agroforestry publications? A lot seems based on the notion that we're tapping into some magic silver bullet. I listened to some Ernst presentations and heard some allusions to stimulating plant growth hormones via pruning, and building organic matter. I like all of that, but I'm tired of all these gurus making it sound like they have the magic potion to fix all agricultural ills. I'm sure there are contexts where this style of pruning does not benefit your target plants. Not quite as acute an effect as spraying growth hormone as a foliar, but we're still talking about stimulating growth via hormones. If the target plants lack sufficient base nutrition, then they probably will just not produce a very big growth spurt from the syntropic ag hormone approach, which is still better than foliar spraying of hormone approach, but does not address the underlying problem of nutrient deficiencies in the soil profile. Adding plant growth hormones into the equation might just open an unhealthy plant to insect herbivory. For example, if the soil profile and parent materials contain zero Mg, then it doesn't matter how much chop and drop, the system will never be healthy until Mg is added. That means inputs (maybe lots of inputs initially), which I know is a four letter word for some folks. Maybe it's assumed people already know these things, but I see permaculture and (to a somewhat lesser degree) syntropic agroforestry being marketed towards people who have no agricultural background, so I thought it worth mentioning that these approaches are not panaceas, and should be considered as a tool in a wider regenerative agronomic toolkit.
how much do we really know about plant symbiosis? or how two plants help or hurt each other??
An Encyclopedia of Plant Symbiology would be an amazing book (if it doesnt already exist)
I think there are combinations that hurt....and combinations that help....right?
but I think the general most exciting idea about this whole thing is you can take barren land and turn it into productive plentiful land with this approach....its just a matter of finding the right combos and making sure you arent hurting yourself through the wrong juxtapositions....and that really wont change no matter what, right?
in your example, arent there plants you could introduce that would add Mg? instead of buying inputs to add?
@@adamtash2891 Yes. There is a lot of literature on companion plantings. I would also place cover cropping under that umbrella. Lots of literature on that too. In the example of adding Mg to the soil. It is either present in the soil profile and parent materials in sufficient quantities or it is not.
There are your typical soil analyses that measure plant available Mg or exchangeable Mg. And there are different soil tests that will look at all elemental Mg (as well as other elements) present in all of its forms whether or not they are plant available forms. Such tests are sometimes referred to as "mining assays" or "geological assays". If the latter test shows low Mg throughout the depths of the soil horizons, then Mg deficiencies will be common. What you referred to are what's called accumulator plants, and they may be successful at accumulating enough Mg for sufficient growth, but they are still dependent on what's already in the soil profile.
You can run these tests all the way through the profile. Even dig a hole 20 feet deep and test all the rocks and soil found in that space. Low Mg on a mining assay is low Mg and will require inputs. Low Mg on a traditional soil test could hint that total Mg is low or it just means we need to do a better job working with the soil biology to access the Mg that is not in readily plant-available forms. That is my understanding anyway. A traditional soil test by itself does not give enough information, and is often used to increase fertilizer sales. A great example of this is the "Potassium Paradox" explained by Dr. Saeed Khan. A couple videos of that are available on youtube.
One other weak point of soil testing (which is the fault of the sample taker and not the test) is that it's usually only conducted at the upper soil levels. Often nutrients considered to be deficient or absent in the soil can actually be found at greater depths trapped in clay layers as is often the case with Sulfur and Potassium.
@@agroventuresperu5469 wow thanks for the detailed response!
How's your Achachairu doing after the storm? Looking to get one myself and want to try the fruit first.
Mine were pretty much destroyed by the storm. The fruit is great though
Thanks for sharing. I love your Catahoula Hound too. Cheers from N. FL.
Thanks, her name is "Hula" the catahoula
Why don't you learn portuguese, my friend? I also learn english to acess other tipe of information
Great idea, but who has the time these days? Cheers
Good idea for himself but also keeps it locked up. Appreciate the effort to learn english.
Nice video! I subscribed and hit the bell button.
Thanks!
💛
I would like to see your farm from above.
It's been years since we had a drone here..
what is the distance between the trees ?
15ft x 20ft in my older grove
Where is info on your course?
go.syntropicsolutions.com/fl-workshop
what state are you in?
Florida
Look for CEPEAS videos, it’s the most advanced research institute of syntropic agroforestry in Brazil after Gotsch’s institute itself.
There have been many machines developed already, they show it in a few videos.
Thank you!
I took my first course with Fernando actually.
They are doing great stuff.
Good Info love your dog 🐕