Why Fixing Macbook Pro 2017 SSD Issue with a Non Genuine SSD Is Dangerous

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  • @lapfix
    @lapfix  2 роки тому +6

    We have lots of videos talking about this issue, check out the description and channel for recalls and how to get the data

  • @gametime2473
    @gametime2473 10 місяців тому +22

    Thankfully Apple has gotten rid of this bothersome issue in their newer computers by soldering the SSD to the board and making it pretty much unrepairable! Thanks apple!

  • @real_synthax
    @real_synthax Рік тому +11

    the SSD controller needs to be compatible with Apple's EFI NVMe driver. There have been lists of fully compatible drives around for years, since the first iMacs and MacBook Pros with Apple's proprietary NVMe drive slots. Weird off-brand drives rarely work properly in macOS, but a handful of name brand drives work just fine with full compatibility. the Macs with full UEFI support tend to have wider drive compatibility.

    • @barrysauce
      @barrysauce Рік тому +3

      Yep I think you have answered my question. Pay for what you get. Don't get a cheap ssd brand get a name brand. Sabrent 1tb seems to be a good choice.

    • @ullas1thomas
      @ullas1thomas 7 місяців тому +1

      Can you suggest a good brand for me? I am having a hard time locating some. It's for my Apple MacBook Air 2017

  • @thebeeamberheardsdogsteppe6368
    @thebeeamberheardsdogsteppe6368 9 місяців тому +1

    for SSDs in A1706/A1708 the issue can come from Cheap NVMe Adapter and incompatible ssd especially thos cheap ssds can cause issue. best working are Samsung Lexar etc

  • @Nonmotivated
    @Nonmotivated Рік тому +6

    I'm confused. There's an issue with only 128G and 256G 3rd party ssds, but upgrading your ssd using any 512G+ drive would be completely fine?

  • @BetoLarski
    @BetoLarski 11 місяців тому +5

    You can use aftermarket drives with the adapter without problems, just avoid crap like the one the other shop used. I did this replacement dozens of times with zero issues.

    • @pizzel
      @pizzel 10 місяців тому

      Hi what is the best brand you would recomment i use with the adapter, and where can i get the adapter, thank you

    • @DarthG3nesis
      @DarthG3nesis 8 місяців тому

      @@pizzelSamsung, Western Digital or some other Make

  • @barrysauce
    @barrysauce Рік тому +1

    Can't this also be resolved by getting a name brand 2242 m.2 drive? Many other channels have the same model of MacBook model a1708 and can update to the 1tb m.2 drive with no issues. Cheaper drives will cause issues. I am thinking about getting a 128g a1708 and upgrading it. Would I also run into the same issue? Thanks.

  • @manilkasheran2934
    @manilkasheran2934 10 місяців тому

    Isn't OWC a reputable 3rd party SSD manufacturer at least for older Macbooks. I have an Air7,2 128 Gigs and thinking of upgrading to 240 Gigs.

  • @RiseUpToYourAbility
    @RiseUpToYourAbility Рік тому +17

    I hate the new apple strategy of making everything proprietary, so you have to use OEM parts.

    • @taylorebenguard6998
      @taylorebenguard6998 Рік тому

      no one said you had yo use oem parts its just that the ssd that someone put into it is just a cheap one

    • @dannyv.9231
      @dannyv.9231 Рік тому +2

      its not about OEM its really on how well they can tell a Customer F You without it being seen as such.

    • @johnbenton62
      @johnbenton62 Рік тому

      that along with slave labor and weegur holocaust 😂

    • @T.On.Things
      @T.On.Things 6 місяців тому

      I agree with you and EXPENSIVE

  • @ShawnSoth
    @ShawnSoth Рік тому +5

    I upgraded my sister's 2017 MacBook storage to 1tb ssd, without a problem.

  • @panchoskywalker
    @panchoskywalker 4 місяці тому

    Can I upgrade a 2017 mb a1708 that has a 128gb ssd with an original 1T that come from the same model? They sell it on aliexpress. Would that be 100% safe? If yes, should I install Ventura from USB or internet recovery mode or it's the same?

  • @johnbenton62
    @johnbenton62 11 місяців тому

    I replaced the ssi with one from Ifixit and when reinstalling os got error " no bag entry" ?????

  • @winmarkesconde5651
    @winmarkesconde5651 Рік тому

    can i install windows only on that aftermarket ssd without problems?

  • @kryptoniite_
    @kryptoniite_ 6 місяців тому

    came home with a new MBP M3 max and midway through setup, my wife’s 2017 A1708 SSD failed.
    just my luck

  • @FARUKHMURAD98
    @FARUKHMURAD98 2 роки тому +1

    Can l get online classes of macbook repairing?

  • @tomasprochazka2599
    @tomasprochazka2599 Місяць тому

    I have changet it manytime. I am using cheap adapter NFHK with 1TB WD SN560. Always without problem :)

  • @robertr9372
    @robertr9372 Рік тому +2

    There seem to be a lot of videos showing this being done with the Sabrent 512 or 1TB drives. This one is branded 'Fledging'??! Is it also possible this is just a cheap generic SSD?

    • @justusfire2873
      @justusfire2873 Рік тому

      They were like OWC but they don’t exist anymore. I read somewhere, that they were the ones who developed the A1708 Mac-to-NVME adapter in the first place - which then was allegedly copied by NHK(?) and Sintech.

  • @BarbosaAugusto96
    @BarbosaAugusto96 7 місяців тому

    Es mejor usar un disco de MacBook original y usado. Que esos adaptadores para evitar problemas. Pero siempre queda a criterio del cliente.

  • @jameysummers1577
    @jameysummers1577 Рік тому +2

    I have an adaptor for this type of drive. When a customer comes to me and needs a data recovery on an a1707, a1706, a1708, I just plug the drive into my tower with an adapter. They also make adapters so you can plug in a short M.2 drive to the macbook, but these models are notorius for having SSD problems. Of course Apple had to be different with their NGFF ports too.

    • @Kikadass
      @Kikadass 8 місяців тому

      I’m trying to buy an adaptor to connect the macbook ssd into my tower. Could you tell me where to get that adaptor.
      I would greatly appreciate it 😃

  • @A20Prueba-ub8df
    @A20Prueba-ub8df 21 день тому

    tengo un macbook pro 2017 sin touchbar la he formateado y reinstalado el sistema operativo varias veces pero sigue igual super lenta no puedo hacer absolutamente nada ni entrar a google dilata en abrir una app que puedo hacer ? alguien que me ayude

  • @HaiTran-eb3ce
    @HaiTran-eb3ce Рік тому +2

    Do you know where can I get a 1TB hard drive for a MacBook pro-mid-2017 with model A1707 with a touch bar? Thank you.

  • @carlternborn235
    @carlternborn235 Рік тому +1

    I have a problem with my SSD and my mac is the same model as in the video. Is there any new "news" regarding the problem, like a new type/brand/producer of ssd introduced to the market? or is it still risky to replace the SSD with a non-apple one?

    • @lapfix
      @lapfix  Рік тому +1

      There was a recall, but I believe it is not there anymore. Use the 512GB apple version only

    • @carlternborn235
      @carlternborn235 Рік тому

      @@lapfix Do you know where you can buy apple version online?

  • @FreedomForKashmir
    @FreedomForKashmir Рік тому +2

    I have exactly the same model A1708.
    Recently I had similar issue ... I was seeing Flashing folder on startup and it won't boot. I took Macbook to Apple service provider .... they said something is wrong with SSD and its faulty.
    So now the work around I am using is that I have purchased external SSD Samsung EVO 980 500 GB with enclosure. I have installed Mac OS on it and using it. It's been couple of days now. This solution seems working fine.
    My question to you is that what do you think of this solution ? How reliable is this?
    Secondly , can we ourselves update the firmware on SSD without taking laptop to Apple shop ?

    • @lapfix
      @lapfix  Рік тому +2

      It very inconvenient and will be very slow as it will not touch the NVME speeds but limit itself to the port. Later macOS builds may not like it as an external and show a circle with a line through it when you boot. I wouldn't rely on it as a main computer

    • @FreedomForKashmir
      @FreedomForKashmir Рік тому

      @@lapfix thanks for the reply.
      You are correct, it's not touching high speeds, it's limited just under 1000 MB/s.
      Should I just put the nvme SSD inside the MacBook with the help of converter rather than using as external with enclosure ?
      And what do you think about my second question. Is it possible for us to update firmware on internal MacBook SSD as they would do in free service program ?

    • @lapfix
      @lapfix  Рік тому +2

      Only they "officially" have access to update the firmware. I wouldn't recommend it. I made a video about putting in an aftermarket ssd in this one, check it out and see if you would still like to: Here is the video ua-cam.com/video/KzxD7NQVSU8/v-deo.html

    • @FreedomForKashmir
      @FreedomForKashmir Рік тому +3

      @@lapfix thanks
      so basically this is how I solved my problem .
      I bought NVME Samsung Evo 980, removed Apple SSD and then plugged in it with the help of adapter and now I am using it on daily basis with heavy development work and it is working fine

    • @anveshkumardasu7101
      @anveshkumardasu7101 Рік тому

      @@FreedomForKashmir i am having similar issue with my mac currently. Its quite expensive to get a new ssd installed in my machine. i would like to know how you have replaced the mac ssd with samsung nvmo. Where did you bought that and how did you install it?

  • @dman081
    @dman081 Рік тому

    Will a non-genuine 500GB+ replacement SSD work, or does the replacement have to be an Apple drive that's 500GB+? I have a 2016 that seems to have this issue - original SSD failed to the point the disk couldn't be seen by the system. I replaced it with an OWC 240 GB which worked for a couple days. But at some point while I was away on vacation, the computer is back in the same state as before, no startup disk seen.

    • @lapfix
      @lapfix  Рік тому +2

      I would recommend 512GB Apple drives only as the 128gb and 250gb are known to fail. I wouldn't trust any other for this model

    • @dman081
      @dman081 Рік тому

      @@lapfix that’s really interesting that there’s something about the larger drive that makes it immune to this issue.

    • @hollywoodthedj1673
      @hollywoodthedj1673 Рік тому +1

      @@lapfix … wow and I was just thinking about getting a 2017 15” nope I’m just going to go get me a 2015 15” they don’t be having these problems!

  • @alexandrsmith6972
    @alexandrsmith6972 Рік тому

    Greetings from Ukraine.
    Give me please short answer - in case I have a problem with hard drive in macbook 2017 13" A1708 - I need to find genuine SSD ?
    There is no official apple repair service and no opportunity for apple replace program.
    Thank you

    • @blurman830
      @blurman830 Рік тому +1

      Yea /or no.
      You can get a authentic apple ssd and save yourself from any problems down the line or you can do the repair like in the video but with a more reliable ssd. The “fletching ssd” is genuinely bad it’s on Amazon with bad reviews. I’m not saying you should but you can get the nfhk n-1708a adapter and a sabrent rock and repair it with that. I saw another video about a guy doing it, his channel is dammit Jeff go watch it.

    • @johnbenton62
      @johnbenton62 Рік тому

      many compatible alternatives available now , I got mine from ifixit

    • @SandorClegane-is3le
      @SandorClegane-is3le 11 місяців тому

      ⁠@@johnbenton62What ssd brand did you use as an alternative?

  • @FreedomForKashmir
    @FreedomForKashmir Рік тому

    I have the same issue with 250 GB SSD in 1708 model.
    I have checked their service program for SSD. But it says I am not eligible.
    How is that possible ? because I have the same laptop as described in their description. Non touch-bar Mid 2017 purchased.
    How can I request apple to replace my SSD for free as they have sold me faulty product?

    • @lapfix
      @lapfix  Рік тому +1

      If you checked the service program then yours may not be part of the bunch that is impacted with this particular problem. As per the page I showed before, they aren't replacing the drive but updating a firmware or who really knows

    • @FreedomForKashmir
      @FreedomForKashmir Рік тому

      @@lapfix that's really sad to hear.
      Not only SSDs they also put faulty butterfly keyboards in 2017, 2108 models.

    • @haydn-db8z
      @haydn-db8z Рік тому

      @@FreedomForKashmir You forgot to mention the "stage lights" problem that can affect the display... :(

  • @FARUKHMURAD98
    @FARUKHMURAD98 2 роки тому

    Love from India...

    • @lapfix
      @lapfix  2 роки тому

      Love from USA...

  • @Roman-Atamanenko
    @Roman-Atamanenko 8 місяців тому

    Тут якраз річ не в системі,а самому ssd,у меня така ж модель,і з перехідником стоїть samsung 970 evo 1tb. І все працює чудово уже 2 роки!!! Тому тут питання до власника,не треба бути жадібним та брати лайно ssd,а зразу взяти нормальний!

  • @JJ-kd1gk
    @JJ-kd1gk Рік тому +2

    what do you mean by "Non Genuine SSD Is Dangerous"? not sure what you mean by that because you never said anything in the video about it that seemed dangerous.

    • @JJ-kd1gk
      @JJ-kd1gk Рік тому

      Is it going to catch on fire or something?

    • @lapfix
      @lapfix  Рік тому +1

      As we are also a Data Recovery center, we take our customer's data very serioiusly. Apple doesn't officially support these third party drives. Issues of any kind can lead to issues such as inaccessiblitly or data loss. Not to mention the quality of the cheap SSD Controller and NAND. Even Apple's 128gb and 256gb models have major issues, so more of a reason to avoid third party drives.

    • @hhy2k
      @hhy2k 9 місяців тому

      @@lapfix It seems that any drives are better than the apple ones as they fail on a regular basis. you can buy a 512 gig Samsung for 30 bucks plus the adapter for 20 and be done with the madness...

  • @gustavmh8423
    @gustavmh8423 2 місяці тому

    what we have here an after market ssd a very fucking cheap one dude dont cheap out in storage

  • @ahmetokur4939
    @ahmetokur4939 6 місяців тому

    I hate Apple , because they always makes harder to products upgrade. Lots of people are not rich and they never wont be. Apple must urgently cancel put in place their customer.

  • @kevinelliott8972
    @kevinelliott8972 5 місяців тому

    😎

  • @takeover4726
    @takeover4726 Місяць тому

    this is apple, hence the dead drive. for 1000 bucks against the 50 buck dead drive.

  • @kchaney56
    @kchaney56 5 місяців тому

    This is why smart people DO NOT USE APPLE!!!!!!!!!

  • @sssyt4837
    @sssyt4837 7 місяців тому

    FTX SBF😂

  • @d.jkellzworldentertainment9561
    @d.jkellzworldentertainment9561 8 місяців тому

    That's China drive that's why she would have buy samsung

  • @binkysphinx
    @binkysphinx Рік тому +2

    This is the "Hunter Biden Laptop" model. The serial number was on the FBI subpoena in the New York Post article. I'm curious if you've followed the origins of the laptop and the steps taken by "John Paul Mac Isaac" in performing data recovery. If so, I'd be curious what your take is on his story of three dead macbooks and the $85 dollar manual file copy recovery performed on the 3rd unit. Mac Isaac also claims to have recovered 300GB from a laptop that's only supposed to have a 256GB SSD in it, a replaceable one too as you know, which Mac Isaac allegedly told Biden couldn't be done and formed the entire basis for why he had to do a granular folder-by-folder and file-by-file backup. That's when he says he discovered all of Biden's questionable behavior via thumbnails..

    • @aripsp
      @aripsp Рік тому

      What an idiot