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Bill is a really good host. He always makes sure everyone gets their say, even after interruptions. He also includes everyone in the conversation when they haven't said anything in a while. Ty sir!
@NerdNest yeah your a great host. This is my goto podcast. I look forward to it all the time !! I found all your channels when I pre orderd my steam deck on launch, and I'm so glad I did. You guys got me into handheld and stuff, and THEN you made this podcast with all of you together!! it felt like when your favorite cartoons have a cross over episode lol
I always thought his ability to host really showed off his teacher skills, and I agree he's a great host. He seems like he'd be cool to just hang out with, too.
I've been very thankful for all the level headed talks between you fellas. It's been a great source of information and entertainment for me while trying to heal my chronic health issues. Appreciate ya. Here's a small token of gratitude.
When the Steam Deck realeased my Switch became a dust collector. It took a short break during Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, then went back to the cave of handhelds. Im excited about the Switch 2 but it really does have to do something different for me to buy it over the next level windows PC handheld.
With regards to the c button being too small to be an optical sensor, I think it's definitely possible. If it is an optical sensor, it reminds me of old blackberry phones after they replaced the trackball with an optical sensor. The thing to keep in mind is that the size of the sensor is not the limit of how far you can move. The size of your thumb is. You move your thumb around over the sensor and it keeps track of your movements by seeing how the thumb moves. It's a little bit of an adjustment over thinking of your finger dragging around something on a track pad to your finger moving and the contact point staying fixed, but it doesn't take long to get used to and works pretty well. You can really think of it more like an optical trackball than a small touch pad.
smol correction: around 54:38 -> Yes, Wii was basically the same performance as GameCube, then you add the Wii-U in the same line, but the Wii-U was actually much improved. It's the next step that was basically no (or not much) performance improvements, from Wii-U to Switch.
Yeah exactly, the Wii-U was basically a delay of the HD revolution. They stood still with Wii (the price point was insta-buy and it was easy to develop for), stepped forward with Wii-U, stood still with Switch (hybridising), now it's all forward at whatever pace is most reasonable. But the price point is crucial.
@@evermillcreek NSwitch performance is great for a pocketable. But it is NOT pocketable. It is merely okay for a portable (Switch Lite) form-factor. And as a Home Console (hybrid?) it is grossly underpowered. Remember the PS4 Pro was considered "slow" for its time, as is the whole generation. Yet the PS4 Pro launched at the same time as the NSwitch. And the performance difference between the two are staggering. The best analogy I can give, is that the PS Vita was much more capable than the original Xbox/Wii, but was much slower than the Xbox 360/PS3. Similar case for the NSwitch. It is faster than the Xbox 360/PS3/WiiU but is slower than the XB1/PS4. If anything the NSwitch is closer to the Xbox 360 than it is to the XB1 performance.
@@evermillcreek I don't think that's true. I think the only thing that the 140 Million units sold indicates is that.... it sold well. The biggest factors are that: Nintendo could mass produce it, it was at a price people could afford, and the marketing was well enough to make people want it. I think performance was the last thing on their minds. It was always about profits from hardware, profits from services, and profits from accessories. Nintendo nailed all three, based on their new3DS (handheld) playbook.... and not off their GameCube (home console) playbook.
@@ekinteko the price point is a huge priority I think, but it had to run breath of the wild so performance was by no means an after thought. They must have got a good deal with Nvidia, or it could have been a different story. The real profit is with the games. As long as the unit isn't making a loss and has some room for retail discounts/bundles. It's a balancing act and they won big. If performance wasn't a main consideration this Switch will just be the same power.
I get Russ's argument of 350, and I agree 350 should be the limit. But to say that at 400 you may consider a ps5 or Xbox at 500, those are not portable and Billy Bob wants to take it on trips. Nintendo will charge 400 because people have shown that they're willing to pay increased prices for the latest tech, be it phones, TVs or gaming devices.
Rich made a point about all the previous console games that were ported to the Switch was part of it's success. It's for that same reason that having dual screen capability on the Switch 2 makes sense... It opens up a whole new set of previous console (or handheld) games that could be ported to the Switch 2 easily.
About the pricing of the original Switch when the OLED came out, people always forget about inflation in these discussions. The og Switch was 299, but when the OLED came out for 349, inflation had basically gone there. So in a way, the og staying at 299 _was_ a price reduction. If you take 299 of 2017 money, that's about 399 now. So they'll put the Switch 2 at that price and have at least one Switch 1 model at 299. If they can put the OLED there, that's sweet, but maybe it'll be the normal LCD model. But that's okay. Let's not speculate about a Switch 2 OLED's pricing in 2-3 years, because that'll simply depend on how the market evolves.
I would expect Digital Foundry to be one of the most watched channels that analyzed what they could from the Mario Kart footage. After 2 days it shows 217k views.
A game console isn't necessary and all it does is games. A phone is a utility that is necessary for most people in the modern world. There's a massive difference.
@colossusrageblack the first example I thought of was my friend that bought her middle school kid an apple watch, but I generalized it to smart phones for kids. Both are primarily entertainment and socialization uses for kids.
If you underclock the Apple M4 Max chipset to 20W that is currently the best available technology in this form-factor. In terms of consoles, such a thing will perform above the XSS but below the PS5. Basically current-gen gaming but in an indoors, backpack, type of device. But that is for a USD $2,500 device and not the target $400 price. For that you would likely have to go with the MediaTek Dimensity 9400 chipset and it will operate in the 3W-12W range. So using half the power, doubling the battery life, but at the minimum also halving the performance. Since this is an off-the-shelf ARM chipset, it lacks a lot of the features, customisations, polish and magic that Apple has. Still this level of performance would be around PS4 Pro levels. What about the rumoured Nvidia Chipset ? It's using a Samsung Fabrication for the silicon, so die-size and efficiency are going to be compromised. The question is about what level. If it is the known 8nm, well that is a very old node and is only around the 10nm-TSMC level from 2018, think iPhone 8 Plus. Some people speculate it is a 5nm node. Which again is not good, and is only around 6nm-TSMC level, think iPhone 11 Max from 2020. It's a good 30% difference to the last +4nm-TSMC node, and a massive difference to the current 3nm-TSMC node. And based on the known specs of Cortex-A78 and RTX-2000 it is using older (less efficient) designs, which will have lower performance too. So the performance can vary quiet a bit. We are talking somewhere slightly below the XB1, to somewhere slightly below a PS4, and at best just slightly ahead of the PS4. Though this is a far cry from the fans online who claim it will be close-to or even exceed the PS4 Pro. No way. What I proposed with the MediaTek chipset would be what you need to get to that level, and that is an excellent recommendation based on the similar chipset price, and the sheer value for money. But I digress. Nintendo is not looking for anything special here, they just want to do what they want to do. Third-party seems to be low on their agenda. At least with the Last-Gen consoles having sold 200 Million units combined, there exists a big install base, and it has dragged down the current development cycle for the PS5 and XSX. This means cross-platform titles could still make its way over to the Switch-2 during its early years. And as the technology leap gets smaller each generation, this might allow those ambitious ports like Doom Eternal on the NSwitch.
If NintendoLand2 comes out on Switch2 that will cement WiiU as one of the most influential consoles in Nintendo history. Everything that was most successful on Switch was developed for the WiiU, and if now Switch2 is just even more of a WiiU that would make two of Nintendo's most successful consoles of all time being direct descendants of the WiiU.
The Wii advertising point is so spot on. My mother was in her 60s at the time and saw Wii sports and bought it for that exact reason. She bought a few other games but that was her intro into gaming. She has never gone beyond it though.
Doing some grinding in an rpg and what do you know it. Almost 2 hours passes while not getting bored even once. Thank you guys for always being there and so entertaining! As someone not that into Nintendo I do still think the mouse mode thing in concept is cool if only cause it will make third party controllers have a bigger reason to be a good PC controller aswell as a Switch 2 controller much like how Xbox controllers are the dominant pc controller. So looking forward to seeing how that market turns out.
Got to give Nintendo a C to C- on this presentation. It either assumes you know about the Switch 2 already, or they know that people wont be impressed by the performance.
I took issue with calling what is actually a teaser/reveal a presentation. Had it been a proper presentation, it would've been a direct. All that said, the teaser was a C. The time between this and the direct is too long. Had it been that wishful thinking 2/4/2025 rather than 4/2/2025 direct that wouldve been amazing. The leaks took the wind out of the sails despite cool positive things happening (lack of big gimmick, bigger console, baclwards compatible)
I feel like an underrated aspect of the streaming to the dock and using the tablet part as a second display would be it would make emulation harder on non Nintendo devices, theres still not really a good way of emulating DS or Wii U, might be another added benefit from Nintendo's perspective
Another great show. Of all the tech handhelds and retro podcasts this is easily the best show. Love hearing your array of opinions and tune in weekly religiously thanks
My Nintendo Switch 2 predictions. 1 The extra button on the joycon that everyone thinks is a c button is not a button it's actually a small mouse trackpad like on the Legion Go S That way you can still use the mouse function while the joycons are attached 2. There will be a camera that attaches to the top usb port for video chat but you will look like your MII character on screen.
Im looking forward to a switch 2. I own a steam deck but I can’t play Pokemon or splatoon online with my friends with that. I hope the battery life is improved and can play my favorites at 30fps with no drops, I’d be content with that
I agree with Russ. Even 400 is too much to hit another home run. The DS and Wii price points were a huge part of their success. Adjust for inflation with base model, not OLED. Tariffs will be the wild card for the US, though. If they made less profit with the OLED and yet still could have retailers offer it at $270 with a game and 12 months NSO, they can still make a tidy profit without a huge jump. Also Nintendo will be just as tough at negotiating. Steam Deck itself isn't a real competitor of course because of first party games but also because they don't sell at retailers generally, otherwise it wouldn't be at that price.
14:31 Russ is right, but I don't think that will matter much. This is coming out in June (after the Switch 2 tours they have announced). The next big 3D Mario is your holiday game 4 months later, so they can show off Mario and get people excited for it, while early adopters get Switch 2 in the first few months anyways. Basically the holidays is where they need their big system seller. MK8 did not save the Wii U, even though it came out just over a year after launch. MK8 still sold over 8 Million units on the Wii U (which is a bigger success than a lot of games mind you) but it's more of a title that sells alongside a platform and not selling the platform itself. The Numbers are also skewed a bit because it's always a pack in game, it was a pack in game on the Gamecube, DS, 3DS, Wii U and Switch... It might have even been a pack in game on the Wii in regions outside of America, because we got Wii Sports here, but wasn't a pack in in japan for instance.
@@A_Dylan_of_No_Renown MK8 came out 18 months after Wii U's launch, in May 2014, just 6 months after the PS4 and XB1 launched. It dropped onto Wii U in it's 7th quarter in which the Wii U sold ~400K units across the 3 months time period, an editional ~400k the following quarter, the quarter before MK8's launch? ~300K units sold. MK8 didn't move the needle. The 2013 holiday Wii U sold about 1.95M units, the 2014 holiday after MK8 launched? slightly worse at 1.9M units. For completionist sake, the 2015 holiday it sold 1.87M units and the final holiday was just 200K which was led by Color Splash. The entire point is that MK8 sold well on Wii U, but Wii U didn't really see an increase in sales from MK8.
@@igcreates2760 If it's a system seller, why did it not increase Wii U sales? Mario Kart is the game people pick up when they pick up the system for sure, but it isn't the game they go out and buy the system for. BotW and Odyssey were that in Switch's first year, and it's amazing that you'd think differently.
@@syferz The way you are defining ‘system seller’ is flawed. It’s still simply a fact _Mario Kart 8_ was the best selling Wii U game. Most people don’t buy a system for a singular game anyways. And any game that sells is a potential ‘system seller’ for _someone_ out there-I for example got the system with _Pikmin 3_ a comparatively very niche game. In the case of Nintendo, some will even buy a system on the assumption their favorite game will be there late-a safe assumption in many cases, such as with Mario Kart. People simply did not want to buy into the Wii U because the concept was not naturally appealing to a mass market of people. There was no game good enough to save that system. _Breath of the Wild_ would not have turned it around either. There was just _way_ too much negativity attached to the Wii U. I saw it in my personal life. People just did not see the appeal of that system. Some kids and Nintendo die-hards liked it well enough, everyone else found it barely interesting or just a confusing shitty iPad you can’t even take out of the living room. That was _the_ thing I had to explain to almost everyone: ‘No, you can’t travel with it.’ And interacting with it was slow and fiddly. Just did not demo well to friends and family at all.
I understand the argument that Nintendo can use low power devices because they optimize to the hills. One thing to consider however is we saw many many indies and 3rd party publishers bring their games to the Switch 1 over it's life cycle. Ports don't typically see that level of system specific optimization. Also Mario Kart 8 came out 11 years ago and they milked it.
Big fan of you guys. But sometimes you have some weird takes 😜. Mario kart is the definition of system seller, in my opinion. Im buying two systems and two games day one if its a launch title, so i can play with the lady online with our own screens. I think many people will want to be there from day one in mario kart online. Also, Bill you probably already know this, but there are 24 drivers in the teaser video. Seems likely its going to be 24 players. I really hope for an adventure mode or open world though. I agree with Bill in a way, that MK makes the perfect live service game. They could market it as a "pack-in" game, and have a number of free courses and characters. Maybe launch new tracks for $1 each and eventually suck 100's out of us over the years. Dont think it will happen, but who knows. Either way thanks for the entertainment at work over the years.
Make sure to look into game sharing if you haven't. By making one system a home console and playing on a your profile on the other you only need one digital copy. I do it on Playstation with my brother. Only downside is the non home console will need to be online to play.
Seriously. The Mario Kart takes here are _insane_ to the point it’s hard to take them seriously. It’s fine to be in a bubble, but Mario Kart is a wildly popular series and absolutely sells systems. It’s aslo beyond insane that Nintendo would choose to make their literal best seller available on the last system. There is essentially zero chance of that happening. Just _terrible_ critical thinking on these points.
I will buy a Switch 2 for sure but think I'm done with XB after this gen but might still pickup next PS. I don't get comparing the SW2 to Steamdeck.... It's the next Nintendo console which I will only play docked, same as my current Switches. For Linux I have a box running Nobara - no Steamdeck needed.
I think everyone's watching different footage to me. The level of detail on the ground alone is way above anything in MK8. I think the cartoony style of the graphics makes it hard to judge but its definitely higher fidelity. We need to see more.
The Switch 2 has to make 3rd party games look better with new hardware. That's the acceptance trick. Currently many games on Switch 1 are just too low resolution/frames/polygons.
None of Nintendos' previous consoles had the full backing of the handheld catalog of games until the Switch 🙄. Switch 2 is absolutely going to kill it. Comparing Switch to stationary Consoles and portable pcs is ridiculous 😂
i know im probably in a niche category, but i had a Nintendo switch since 2018 was a bit late to the party but I really loved it, its the place Skyrim finally made sense to me and i played it for 250+ hours and loved it still do, doom 2016 , Witcher 3, Nier Automata, Hollow knight .. I loved all these games, I had Zelda to like everyone else but Nintendo games are not what made the switch magic for me, yes it was fun being part of the smash community during the character reveal days i was a hardcore nintendo fan to an extent.. when the steamdeck came out i was very annoyed by the hype around the device as a switch competitor, especially when the project kill-switch by dbrand was announced, i eventually bought a steamdeck to prove to my friends that the switch was a better device in 2023.. fast forward to 2025 i only own a steamdeck oled with a kill-switch case .. saying switch owners do not know or care what a steamdeck is false .. im now waiting to see if Nintendo can win me back (most likely not because I emulate a tone of games my ps2 and gamecube library has over 250 games in it now and that's my favourite generation )
@39m30s The main argument for emulators, that Nintendo hates, is game preservation. It would be a big win for Nintendo if they handle it themselves, with retro-compatible hardware and online service. No more excuses for emulation and a huge added value with historical games that no other vendor could top.
@NerdNest What'cha smokin'? They charge at least double for their upgrades compared to what it would cost on the PC platform! (and double is being generous)
Stand down stop talking crap about the switch 2 it will be the best console ever made from Nintendo the mouse mode will be great products have a accessory for it I will defend this console in Nintendo I trust now stand down
17:32 I dont like looking to much into sales but the truth is… Animal Crossing sold 46 million copies. It might not be the game some are looking for, but its definitely a monster. And I seriously doubt that everybody that jumped in during the pandemic moved on to the elden rings and CODs after. A new Animal Crossing can definitely move consoles. For comparison, all of the metroid games combined sold somewhere in the 23 million. AC is high up there, only behind the juggernauts (minecraft, gta, etc)
Mario kart 8, take the eight flip it on its side, Mario kart infinite. Continue to update the game, add more characters, character skins, More tracks, and maybe even different racing styles that mimic older the titles
The big dilemma is will general folk have a reason to upgrade. I see that they will if their Switch 1's are used regularly and wearing out. Possibly if new games compels an upgrade, like an exclusive Zelda game. The Switch 2 just extends the Switch ecosystem. You're not going to get a major purchase wave like Switch 1 had compared to Wii U. The Switch 2 is like the Wii to Wii U narrative.
If Switch 2 will support a lot of 3rd party games that the Switch 1 cannot handle (like using Cloud instead of native), then casual folks have a reason to purchase it especially if they also want to play Nintendo exclusives.
I was excited about the switch 2 during leaks. So I will stay excited during its actual roll out. Not sure why people feel like they can’t be excited because “they knew”. It feels more like a cool club statement. “Man I been knew about this. Psssshhhh old news” 😂
Mario Kart 9 might just make me buy a switch 2 actually... But I'm weird. I'm not a Nintendo fan really, but the Wii U is the one console I actually did get. I had just installed a beamer and I bought a pack with Mario Kart at the start of a couple weeks stay at home vacation in a dreary November and it was glorious... But then the switch came and they just rereleased the same game... And I just refused to buy what I already owned. Later on with all the extra tracks it became more enticing, but the price for mk8 never really went down and you had to pay extra for all those new tracks, so I never got it because I was still salty about it. Eventually sold my switch because I never played it anymore (largely the Steam Deck's fault) but I never got around to selling the games... So I'm hoping the switch 2 is more ergonomic (though maybe still good to get an extra grip case with it) and then I think I'll give it another shot... And finally get another mk 😅 as well as playing those games that are still sitting there on a better system.
Oh with regards to price... Yeah that could throw a spanner in the works for me. 400 feels like the absolute limit for me, and at that price it needs to be oled and I kind of would like a pack in game too... Though maybe that's not until later, maybe holiday season. And the game is not an absolute dealbreaker for me. But if it's 400 and another 60 or 70 for mk9 it pushes the price over some psychological barrier for me. If it's more than 400 or it doesn't have an oled screen I don't think I can justify it for myself at all.
19:15 thats what I've been saying drop the number this is mario cart period. its a live service now, same for (people arent going to love it either) smash bros. the problem for nintendo is where do you go from where those games are at the moment they already dlc ALL the content since the beginnings of time those are MASIVE packages now just go live service drop some stadiums with some cadence or something im calling the switch 2 the FIRST nintendo console with an actual internet connection, there is no way they can fumble their internet services again. they are poised to figure it out this time and make a MASIVE entry into the live service territory with those 2 franchises that make sense
Saying Mario Kart isn't a system seller is very inaccurate. I am sure if you asked many hardcore gamers if they had to get the new Mario Kart, they would buy it for party gaming but wasn't the reason to get Switch 2. I have been lucky where I work to encounter a lot of female and casual gamers, and nearly every one of them bought a Switch just for Mario Kart! This is a key "evergreen" title for Nintendo which draws plenty of attention and purchases outside of the hardcore gamer crowd.
Noooooo, we need a new engine. The 8 one is soooooo simple and easy for those of us that have been playing it regularly for like a decade now. The physics need an upgrade. Plenty of people said we wanted a new Mario kart at the launch of 8. It's really weird to say that gamers didn't want a new Mario kart.
Totally agree, I also don't understand how you as a gamer can say that you don't need a new engine for Mario Kart. And of course it's a system seller, look at the sales figures.
Very good show this week. Hopefully price will be $350 but i feel it'll be $400. Im surprised you guys didnt talk about game prices. I have sinking feeling that all Nintendo flagship/1st party games will be $70/$90cdn like Breath of the wild 2. Hope this is not the case.😂
I would like to see a $350 price or even a $400 price if it has to be but given the market, I think $450 might be what they have to price it at if Nintendo wants to make a profit out the gate. I really don't think they can price this at $350 and $400 might be cutting too much into their profit margins.
I think they will try $400. If the sales aren’t what they like, they will just release a switch 2 light earlier if it is $400 I will probably wait for the switch 2 light.
Zelda - Tears Of The Kingdom will probably sell quite a few Switch 2's. Anyone who already has it wants to play it (properly), and there are probably people who didn't buy it because of how poorly it runs on the Switch that will buy a Switch 2 so they can finally buy TOTK, and enjoy it.
I say the "C button" hasn't a C or anything, it isn't even a button, but it is a mini mouse trackpad. Because it's for the mouse functions when you holding the Switch in handheld mode.
@@OxKing leaks prove theres a c button. The button is there, but highly speculated that they removed the C for the footage so the public doesnt start asking questions that they wont be answerring anyways
@@BuNnyDuDeDaRoO They didn't remove anything. Everything from the leaks was right, why would they remove a letter from one button? It still would not have told us what it is for anyway. It is definitely not a 'C' button
Sadly, the Nintendo exclusives are going to force my hand into giving them more money... Hardware aside, I want to play games like Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Zelda, etc.
I completely disagree with MK9 not being a system seller. I personally while watching the reveal though o hey that's awesome the next switch I'll wait for a game I am excited about to buy it and then they showed Mario Kart and I instantly wanted to buy it. The difference here with the M1 its that the M1 is a processor which was good enough and people didn't feel the need for something more powerful because the m1 was enough. MK8 Deluxe was relased all the way back in 2017. Switch is a console where we didn't get the next mario kart, just the same game as the previous console. And having it so long in the console most of us unlike russ, who you can tell is not as interested since he hasn't finished all tracks, have played all the tracks, including the dlc tracks to death basically getting muscle memory. So yea a new MK is super exciting and worth buying a new console for many
If the Switch 2 isn't going to come with oled out the gate, i'm going to wait. According to bloomberg reports, it will launch with an LCD screen. Also if you go back and watch the mario kart 9 trailer, the bezel on the new screen was a bit too much for my liking and not utilizing more real-estate. Just something to think about.
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I believe the pins on the joy cons are for future accessories like VR and other creative ways to play switch games at are intuitive and innovative. We will see a lot of useful and creative accessories for new games and ways to play on switch 2 you heard it first here.
Bill is a really good host. He always makes sure everyone gets their say, even after interruptions. He also includes everyone in the conversation when they haven't said anything in a while. Ty sir!
Thanks for the kind words, I do my best. I did cut Cary off this episode about MP4, and then forgot to get back to that topic.
@NerdNest yeah your a great host. This is my goto podcast. I look forward to it all the time !! I found all your channels when I pre orderd my steam deck on launch, and I'm so glad I did. You guys got me into handheld and stuff, and THEN you made this podcast with all of you together!! it felt like when your favorite cartoons have a cross over episode lol
He truly is. This podcast and panel is literally the best in this space imo.
he gotta do it cause these guys have zero chemistry😅
I always thought his ability to host really showed off his teacher skills, and I agree he's a great host. He seems like he'd be cool to just hang out with, too.
I've been very thankful for all the level headed talks between you fellas. It's been a great source of information and entertainment for me while trying to heal my chronic health issues. Appreciate ya. Here's a small token of gratitude.
Thanks so much. Sorry for your health issues, glad we can be some help.
I know people who bought the Switch, just to play Mario Kart and Smash Bros when the friends are over.
I hate to tell Russ but $250 in 2006 is $390 in todays dollars.
12:47 I’m confused by this question.
The Switch had no brand new Mari Kart. Yes, it’s time for a new Mario Kart
When the Steam Deck realeased my Switch became a dust collector. It took a short break during Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, then went back to the cave of handhelds. Im excited about the Switch 2 but it really does have to do something different for me to buy it over the next level windows PC handheld.
This has been me exactly.
That was true for me for about 3 months after I got my steam deck but it's about 50/50 for me between my Steam Deck and Switch.
You won’t be able to emulate Switch 2 games on the deck anymore
@ when switch 2 exclusives come out that I want to play then I'll get it.
@@ninjason57 same here
Kerry, I'm sorry it's not called the "super switch"
I want to take it even further...
Super 3D 64 Switch!!
With regards to the c button being too small to be an optical sensor, I think it's definitely possible. If it is an optical sensor, it reminds me of old blackberry phones after they replaced the trackball with an optical sensor. The thing to keep in mind is that the size of the sensor is not the limit of how far you can move. The size of your thumb is. You move your thumb around over the sensor and it keeps track of your movements by seeing how the thumb moves. It's a little bit of an adjustment over thinking of your finger dragging around something on a track pad to your finger moving and the contact point staying fixed, but it doesn't take long to get used to and works pretty well. You can really think of it more like an optical trackball than a small touch pad.
smol correction: around 54:38 -> Yes, Wii was basically the same performance as GameCube, then you add the Wii-U in the same line, but the Wii-U was actually much improved. It's the next step that was basically no (or not much) performance improvements, from Wii-U to Switch.
Yeah exactly, the Wii-U was basically a delay of the HD revolution. They stood still with Wii (the price point was insta-buy and it was easy to develop for), stepped forward with Wii-U, stood still with Switch (hybridising), now it's all forward at whatever pace is most reasonable. But the price point is crucial.
@@evermillcreek NSwitch performance is great for a pocketable. But it is NOT pocketable. It is merely okay for a portable (Switch Lite) form-factor. And as a Home Console (hybrid?) it is grossly underpowered.
Remember the PS4 Pro was considered "slow" for its time, as is the whole generation. Yet the PS4 Pro launched at the same time as the NSwitch. And the performance difference between the two are staggering.
The best analogy I can give, is that the PS Vita was much more capable than the original Xbox/Wii, but was much slower than the Xbox 360/PS3. Similar case for the NSwitch. It is faster than the Xbox 360/PS3/WiiU but is slower than the XB1/PS4. If anything the NSwitch is closer to the Xbox 360 than it is to the XB1 performance.
@@ekinteko yeah, it's all about delivering to the 5-95 audience at the best performance possible, they nailed the balance as evidenced by the sales
@@evermillcreek I don't think that's true. I think the only thing that the 140 Million units sold indicates is that.... it sold well. The biggest factors are that: Nintendo could mass produce it, it was at a price people could afford, and the marketing was well enough to make people want it.
I think performance was the last thing on their minds. It was always about profits from hardware, profits from services, and profits from accessories. Nintendo nailed all three, based on their new3DS (handheld) playbook.... and not off their GameCube (home console) playbook.
@@ekinteko the price point is a huge priority I think, but it had to run breath of the wild so performance was by no means an after thought. They must have got a good deal with Nvidia, or it could have been a different story. The real profit is with the games. As long as the unit isn't making a loss and has some room for retail discounts/bundles. It's a balancing act and they won big. If performance wasn't a main consideration this Switch will just be the same power.
I get Russ's argument of 350, and I agree 350 should be the limit. But to say that at 400 you may consider a ps5 or Xbox at 500, those are not portable and Billy Bob wants to take it on trips. Nintendo will charge 400 because people have shown that they're willing to pay increased prices for the latest tech, be it phones, TVs or gaming devices.
Rich made a point about all the previous console games that were ported to the Switch was part of it's success. It's for that same reason that having dual screen capability on the Switch 2 makes sense... It opens up a whole new set of previous console (or handheld) games that could be ported to the Switch 2 easily.
Everyone needs a Switch 2 for the bathroom. :)
no one needs a shytendo.
@ lol. Yuck. I am glad they settled on “Switch 2” as the name. :)
About the pricing of the original Switch when the OLED came out, people always forget about inflation in these discussions. The og Switch was 299, but when the OLED came out for 349, inflation had basically gone there. So in a way, the og staying at 299 _was_ a price reduction. If you take 299 of 2017 money, that's about 399 now. So they'll put the Switch 2 at that price and have at least one Switch 1 model at 299. If they can put the OLED there, that's sweet, but maybe it'll be the normal LCD model. But that's okay. Let's not speculate about a Switch 2 OLED's pricing in 2-3 years, because that'll simply depend on how the market evolves.
I would expect Digital Foundry to be one of the most watched channels that analyzed what they could from the Mario Kart footage. After 2 days it shows 217k views.
"He named names..." Seinfeld reference!?
Yep!
This podcast is my #1 most anticipated and always tune in immediately! Love you guys
The new Mario Kart will be a complete paradigm shift for sure, with live service elements. Animal Crossing is the Switch 2 Lite seller.
I think the animations in Nintendo’s presentation were pretty top tier this time around.
every time you press the c button nintendo copyright stikes a youtube video
$400 is still less than a phone. Lots of kids have an iPhone, and a Switch 2 will stay relevant for twice as many years.
Most people don't "buy' phones, they just get them "free" with their Verizon or ATT contract.
@ "Most people" also count both 349$ as well as 399$ as 300. So they're fine with 399. :P
My acl android was 60 bucks ago 3 years ago 😅
A game console isn't necessary and all it does is games. A phone is a utility that is necessary for most people in the modern world. There's a massive difference.
@colossusrageblack the first example I thought of was my friend that bought her middle school kid an apple watch, but I generalized it to smart phones for kids. Both are primarily entertainment and socialization uses for kids.
Here is a comment for performance discussion!
If you underclock the Apple M4 Max chipset to 20W that is currently the best available technology in this form-factor.
In terms of consoles, such a thing will perform above the XSS but below the PS5. Basically current-gen gaming but in an indoors, backpack, type of device.
But that is for a USD $2,500 device and not the target $400 price. For that you would likely have to go with the MediaTek Dimensity 9400 chipset and it will operate in the 3W-12W range. So using half the power, doubling the battery life, but at the minimum also halving the performance. Since this is an off-the-shelf ARM chipset, it lacks a lot of the features, customisations, polish and magic that Apple has. Still this level of performance would be around PS4 Pro levels.
What about the rumoured Nvidia Chipset ?
It's using a Samsung Fabrication for the silicon, so die-size and efficiency are going to be compromised. The question is about what level. If it is the known 8nm, well that is a very old node and is only around the 10nm-TSMC level from 2018, think iPhone 8 Plus. Some people speculate it is a 5nm node. Which again is not good, and is only around 6nm-TSMC level, think iPhone 11 Max from 2020. It's a good 30% difference to the last +4nm-TSMC node, and a massive difference to the current 3nm-TSMC node. And based on the known specs of Cortex-A78 and RTX-2000 it is using older (less efficient) designs, which will have lower performance too. So the performance can vary quiet a bit. We are talking somewhere slightly below the XB1, to somewhere slightly below a PS4, and at best just slightly ahead of the PS4. Though this is a far cry from the fans online who claim it will be close-to or even exceed the PS4 Pro. No way. What I proposed with the MediaTek chipset would be what you need to get to that level, and that is an excellent recommendation based on the similar chipset price, and the sheer value for money.
But I digress. Nintendo is not looking for anything special here, they just want to do what they want to do. Third-party seems to be low on their agenda. At least with the Last-Gen consoles having sold 200 Million units combined, there exists a big install base, and it has dragged down the current development cycle for the PS5 and XSX. This means cross-platform titles could still make its way over to the Switch-2 during its early years. And as the technology leap gets smaller each generation, this might allow those ambitious ports like Doom Eternal on the NSwitch.
$400 would be about the price of the Wii on launch if we factor in inflation, so I think that's the price they should go for.
*Gasp*
Rich how dare you say we were done with Mario Kart!! 😂😂😂
If NintendoLand2 comes out on Switch2 that will cement WiiU as one of the most influential consoles in Nintendo history.
Everything that was most successful on Switch was developed for the WiiU, and if now Switch2 is just even more of a WiiU that would make two of Nintendo's most successful consoles of all time being direct descendants of the WiiU.
The Wii advertising point is so spot on. My mother was in her 60s at the time and saw Wii sports and bought it for that exact reason. She bought a few other games but that was her intro into gaming. She has never gone beyond it though.
Mario kart 8 had such a high attach rate because the only bundle they ever offered was a mariokart bundle. Especially during holidays.
Doing some grinding in an rpg and what do you know it. Almost 2 hours passes while not getting bored even once.
Thank you guys for always being there and so entertaining!
As someone not that into Nintendo I do still think the mouse mode thing in concept is cool if only cause it will make third party controllers have a bigger reason to be a good PC controller aswell as a Switch 2 controller much like how Xbox controllers are the dominant pc controller.
So looking forward to seeing how that market turns out.
You probably could use the mouse mode for Mario kart. I can imagine you moving the joy con horizontal left to right for cart steering
Got to give Nintendo a C to C- on this presentation. It either assumes you know about the Switch 2 already, or they know that people wont be impressed by the performance.
I took issue with calling what is actually a teaser/reveal a presentation. Had it been a proper presentation, it would've been a direct.
All that said, the teaser was a C. The time between this and the direct is too long. Had it been that wishful thinking 2/4/2025 rather than 4/2/2025 direct that wouldve been amazing. The leaks took the wind out of the sails despite cool positive things happening (lack of big gimmick, bigger console, baclwards compatible)
This is my favorite videogame podcast, I really appreciate the different perspectives from all of you.
You guys are all great !!! Love watching all of your videos. Thank you for all you do.
I feel like an underrated aspect of the streaming to the dock and using the tablet part as a second display would be it would make emulation harder on non Nintendo devices, theres still not really a good way of emulating DS or Wii U, might be another added benefit from Nintendo's perspective
Great Podcast! Solid work as always Bill! Came from Russ/Retro Game Corps but stayed because of the group's dynamic.
Another great show. Of all the tech handhelds and retro podcasts this is easily the best show. Love hearing your array of opinions and tune in weekly religiously thanks
My Nintendo Switch 2 predictions.
1 The extra button on the joycon that everyone thinks is a c button is not a button it's actually a small mouse trackpad like on the Legion Go S
That way you can still use the mouse function while the joycons are attached
2. There will be a camera that attaches to the top usb port for video chat but you will look like your MII character on screen.
Im looking forward to a switch 2. I own a steam deck but I can’t play Pokemon or splatoon online with my friends with that. I hope the battery life is improved and can play my favorites at 30fps with no drops, I’d be content with that
Your showed brightened my otherwise tormenting day of working on my one day "off" this week. 😎👍
That intro was comedy gold 😂
My prediction is that we will see Mario Kart Complete Edition. Upgraded graphics and new modes with the entire MK8 library.
I agree with Russ. Even 400 is too much to hit another home run. The DS and Wii price points were a huge part of their success. Adjust for inflation with base model, not OLED. Tariffs will be the wild card for the US, though.
If they made less profit with the OLED and yet still could have retailers offer it at $270 with a game and 12 months NSO, they can still make a tidy profit without a huge jump. Also Nintendo will be just as tough at negotiating.
Steam Deck itself isn't a real competitor of course because of first party games but also because they don't sell at retailers generally, otherwise it wouldn't be at that price.
14:31 Russ is right, but I don't think that will matter much. This is coming out in June (after the Switch 2 tours they have announced). The next big 3D Mario is your holiday game 4 months later, so they can show off Mario and get people excited for it, while early adopters get Switch 2 in the first few months anyways. Basically the holidays is where they need their big system seller. MK8 did not save the Wii U, even though it came out just over a year after launch. MK8 still sold over 8 Million units on the Wii U (which is a bigger success than a lot of games mind you) but it's more of a title that sells alongside a platform and not selling the platform itself. The Numbers are also skewed a bit because it's always a pack in game, it was a pack in game on the Gamecube, DS, 3DS, Wii U and Switch... It might have even been a pack in game on the Wii in regions outside of America, because we got Wii Sports here, but wasn't a pack in in japan for instance.
Correction: _Mario Kart 8_ was two years after the Wii U release and only there for the third holiday season for the system.
@@A_Dylan_of_No_Renown MK8 came out 18 months after Wii U's launch, in May 2014, just 6 months after the PS4 and XB1 launched. It dropped onto Wii U in it's 7th quarter in which the Wii U sold ~400K units across the 3 months time period, an editional ~400k the following quarter, the quarter before MK8's launch? ~300K units sold. MK8 didn't move the needle. The 2013 holiday Wii U sold about 1.95M units, the 2014 holiday after MK8 launched? slightly worse at 1.9M units. For completionist sake, the 2015 holiday it sold 1.87M units and the final holiday was just 200K which was led by Color Splash. The entire point is that MK8 sold well on Wii U, but Wii U didn't really see an increase in sales from MK8.
Dude you are wholly delusional if you think Mario Kart isn't a system seller
@@igcreates2760 If it's a system seller, why did it not increase Wii U sales? Mario Kart is the game people pick up when they pick up the system for sure, but it isn't the game they go out and buy the system for. BotW and Odyssey were that in Switch's first year, and it's amazing that you'd think differently.
@@syferz The way you are defining ‘system seller’ is flawed. It’s still simply a fact _Mario Kart 8_ was the best selling Wii U game. Most people don’t buy a system for a singular game anyways. And any game that sells is a potential ‘system seller’ for _someone_ out there-I for example got the system with _Pikmin 3_ a comparatively very niche game. In the case of Nintendo, some will even buy a system on the assumption their favorite game will be there late-a safe assumption in many cases, such as with Mario Kart.
People simply did not want to buy into the Wii U because the concept was not naturally appealing to a mass market of people. There was no game good enough to save that system. _Breath of the Wild_ would not have turned it around either.
There was just _way_ too much negativity attached to the Wii U. I saw it in my personal life. People just did not see the appeal of that system. Some kids and Nintendo die-hards liked it well enough, everyone else found it barely interesting or just a confusing shitty iPad you can’t even take out of the living room. That was _the_ thing I had to explain to almost everyone: ‘No, you can’t travel with it.’ And interacting with it was slow and fiddly. Just did not demo well to friends and family at all.
"I'm just attached to this guys thing" 😢😂
Wii being $250 at launch is equivalent to $391.38 now. 1:22:28
Price is king. If the Switch 2 is $400, it's going to sell less than half of original Switch.
I didn't even know the Wii U wasn't a Wii add on until 2021.
It will always be the Super Switch to me Cary
Seeing as Joy-Con 2 can be used as a mouse, they do have optical sensors on the edges that connects to Switch 2.
They took 2 minutes and 22 seconds which is a cool nod towards the system aswell
I understand the argument that Nintendo can use low power devices because they optimize to the hills. One thing to consider however is we saw many many indies and 3rd party publishers bring their games to the Switch 1 over it's life cycle. Ports don't typically see that level of system specific optimization.
Also Mario Kart 8 came out 11 years ago and they milked it.
Big fan of you guys. But sometimes you have some weird takes 😜. Mario kart is the definition of system seller, in my opinion. Im buying two systems and two games day one if its a launch title, so i can play with the lady online with our own screens.
I think many people will want to be there from day one in mario kart online.
Also, Bill you probably already know this, but there are 24 drivers in the teaser video. Seems likely its going to be 24 players.
I really hope for an adventure mode or open world though. I agree with Bill in a way, that MK makes the perfect live service game. They could market it as a "pack-in" game, and have a number of free courses and characters. Maybe launch new tracks for $1 each and eventually suck 100's out of us over the years. Dont think it will happen, but who knows.
Either way thanks for the entertainment at work over the years.
Make sure to look into game sharing if you haven't. By making one system a home console and playing on a your profile on the other you only need one digital copy. I do it on Playstation with my brother. Only downside is the non home console will need to be online to play.
Seriously. The Mario Kart takes here are _insane_ to the point it’s hard to take them seriously. It’s fine to be in a bubble, but Mario Kart is a wildly popular series and absolutely sells systems. It’s aslo beyond insane that Nintendo would choose to make their literal best seller available on the last system. There is essentially zero chance of that happening. Just _terrible_ critical thinking on these points.
I will buy a Switch 2 for sure but think I'm done with XB after this gen but might still pickup next PS. I don't get comparing the SW2 to Steamdeck.... It's the next Nintendo console which I will only play docked, same as my current Switches. For Linux I have a box running Nobara - no Steamdeck needed.
I think everyone's watching different footage to me. The level of detail on the ground alone is way above anything in MK8. I think the cartoony style of the graphics makes it hard to judge but its definitely higher fidelity. We need to see more.
Awesome, Rich is back!
IKR 🙏
The Switch 2 has to make 3rd party games look better with new hardware. That's the acceptance trick. Currently many games on Switch 1 are just too low resolution/frames/polygons.
Totally agree.
None of Nintendos' previous consoles had the full backing of the handheld catalog of games until the Switch 🙄.
Switch 2 is absolutely going to kill it. Comparing Switch to stationary Consoles and portable pcs is ridiculous 😂
i know im probably in a niche category, but i had a Nintendo switch since 2018 was a bit late to the party but I really loved it, its the place Skyrim finally made sense to me and i played it for 250+ hours and loved it still do, doom 2016 , Witcher 3, Nier Automata, Hollow knight .. I loved all these games, I had Zelda to like everyone else but Nintendo games are not what made the switch magic for me, yes it was fun being part of the smash community during the character reveal days i was a hardcore nintendo fan to an extent.. when the steamdeck came out i was very annoyed by the hype around the device as a switch competitor, especially when the project kill-switch by dbrand was announced, i eventually bought a steamdeck to prove to my friends that the switch was a better device in 2023.. fast forward to 2025 i only own a steamdeck oled with a kill-switch case .. saying switch owners do not know or care what a steamdeck is false .. im now waiting to see if Nintendo can win me back (most likely not because I emulate a tone of games my ps2 and gamecube library has over 250 games in it now and that's my favourite generation )
@39m30s The main argument for emulators, that Nintendo hates, is game preservation. It would be a big win for Nintendo if they handle it themselves, with retro-compatible hardware and online service. No more excuses for emulation and a huge added value with historical games that no other vendor could top.
The 12GB of RAM will make it age pretty well. Mario won't be on PC hand held systems, so graphics power won't be directly compared.
FINISHING UP THE SYSTEM SHOCK REMAKE RN
I would be in favor of the live service aspect of Mario Kart but by subscribing you should get the whole game free at the $50 expansion tier
Apple doesn't slowly walk up their prices, Bill.
They take record-setting long jumps with every step up the ladder!
No they don’t.
@NerdNest What'cha smokin'? They charge at least double for their upgrades compared to what it would cost on the PC platform! (and double is being generous)
Stand down stop talking crap about the switch 2 it will be the best console ever made from Nintendo the mouse mode will be great products have a accessory for it I will defend this console in Nintendo I trust now stand down
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This sounds like the same hate og Switch was getting before release from the likes of Review Tech USA and Yong Yea😎😎😎
Hate? We’re all excited for it
The upcoming legion go s has a tiny trackpad so the button on the Switch 2 could very well be a trackpad.
Screen casting is the best guess yet
The thing that will make me buy it is Pokémon that is the same as Violet/Scarlet in the gameplay, but it looks and runs like Luigi’s Mansion 3.
17:32 I dont like looking to much into sales but the truth is… Animal Crossing sold 46 million copies. It might not be the game some are looking for, but its definitely a monster. And I seriously doubt that everybody that jumped in during the pandemic moved on to the elden rings and CODs after. A new Animal Crossing can definitely move consoles. For comparison, all of the metroid games combined sold somewhere in the 23 million. AC is high up there, only behind the juggernauts (minecraft, gta, etc)
Mario kart 8, take the eight flip it on its side, Mario kart infinite. Continue to update the game, add more characters, character skins, More tracks, and maybe even different racing styles that mimic older the titles
Don't you have a Switch 2? Noooo, but I have a Switch Also...
I love new console season. Lots of things to talk and speculate on. Great episode
The big dilemma is will general folk have a reason to upgrade. I see that they will if their Switch 1's are used regularly and wearing out. Possibly if new games compels an upgrade, like an exclusive Zelda game. The Switch 2 just extends the Switch ecosystem. You're not going to get a major purchase wave like Switch 1 had compared to Wii U. The Switch 2 is like the Wii to Wii U narrative.
If Switch 2 will support a lot of 3rd party games that the Switch 1 cannot handle (like using Cloud instead of native), then casual folks have a reason to purchase it especially if they also want to play Nintendo exclusives.
I was excited about the switch 2 during leaks. So I will stay excited during its actual roll out. Not sure why people feel like they can’t be excited because “they knew”. It feels more like a cool club statement. “Man I been knew about this. Psssshhhh old news” 😂
I don't think this Mario cat conversation is gonna age well
Whoever is on the top right seems very snarky and keeps interrupting other members. Man needs to relax a bit lol
In the trailer, I saw higher frame rate, not higher graphics. And I’m fine with that
Also more racers is more demanding.
Mario Kart 9 might just make me buy a switch 2 actually... But I'm weird. I'm not a Nintendo fan really, but the Wii U is the one console I actually did get. I had just installed a beamer and I bought a pack with Mario Kart at the start of a couple weeks stay at home vacation in a dreary November and it was glorious...
But then the switch came and they just rereleased the same game... And I just refused to buy what I already owned. Later on with all the extra tracks it became more enticing, but the price for mk8 never really went down and you had to pay extra for all those new tracks, so I never got it because I was still salty about it.
Eventually sold my switch because I never played it anymore (largely the Steam Deck's fault) but I never got around to selling the games... So I'm hoping the switch 2 is more ergonomic (though maybe still good to get an extra grip case with it) and then I think I'll give it another shot... And finally get another mk 😅 as well as playing those games that are still sitting there on a better system.
Oh with regards to price... Yeah that could throw a spanner in the works for me. 400 feels like the absolute limit for me, and at that price it needs to be oled and I kind of would like a pack in game too... Though maybe that's not until later, maybe holiday season. And the game is not an absolute dealbreaker for me. But if it's 400 and another 60 or 70 for mk9 it pushes the price over some psychological barrier for me.
If it's more than 400 or it doesn't have an oled screen I don't think I can justify it for myself at all.
19:15 thats what I've been saying drop the number this is mario cart period. its a live service now, same for (people arent going to love it either) smash bros. the problem for nintendo is where do you go from where those games are at the moment they already dlc ALL the content since the beginnings of time those are MASIVE packages now just go live service drop some stadiums with some cadence or something
im calling the switch 2 the FIRST nintendo console with an actual internet connection, there is no way they can fumble their internet services again. they are poised to figure it out this time and make a MASIVE entry into the live service territory with those 2 franchises that make sense
Loving the new intro music 🎶
Saying Mario Kart isn't a system seller is very inaccurate. I am sure if you asked many hardcore gamers if they had to get the new Mario Kart, they would buy it for party gaming but wasn't the reason to get Switch 2. I have been lucky where I work to encounter a lot of female and casual gamers, and nearly every one of them bought a Switch just for Mario Kart! This is a key "evergreen" title for Nintendo which draws plenty of attention and purchases outside of the hardcore gamer crowd.
Noooooo, we need a new engine. The 8 one is soooooo simple and easy for those of us that have been playing it regularly for like a decade now. The physics need an upgrade. Plenty of people said we wanted a new Mario kart at the launch of 8. It's really weird to say that gamers didn't want a new Mario kart.
Totally agree, I also don't understand how you as a gamer can say that you don't need a new engine for Mario Kart. And of course it's a system seller, look at the sales figures.
I’ve never played Mario Kart. So I will buy Mario Kart 9 when I get my Switch 2. Guess I’m the target demographic.
ahahahha call in to caputre audio on your livestream :) That would be so Nintendo :)
What if the "C" button is a button to open Cemu or Citra 😂😂
Very good show this week.
Hopefully price will be $350 but i feel it'll be $400.
Im surprised you guys didnt talk about game prices.
I have sinking feeling that all Nintendo flagship/1st party games will be $70/$90cdn like Breath of the wild 2. Hope this is not the case.😂
I would like to see a $350 price or even a $400 price if it has to be but given the market, I think $450 might be what they have to price it at if Nintendo wants to make a profit out the gate. I really don't think they can price this at $350 and $400 might be cutting too much into their profit margins.
They not brought smash 3ds and Wii U into Ultimate, Sakurai say they make Ultimate from zero
I think they will try $400. If the sales aren’t what they like, they will just release a switch 2 light earlier if it is $400 I will probably wait for the switch 2 light.
Splatoon is the only game i can see being really good with mouse support.
Zelda - Tears Of The Kingdom will probably sell quite a few Switch 2's.
Anyone who already has it wants to play it (properly), and there are probably people who didn't buy it because of how poorly it runs on the Switch that will buy a Switch 2 so they can finally buy TOTK, and enjoy it.
I say the "C button" hasn't a C or anything, it isn't even a button, but it is a mini mouse trackpad.
Because it's for the mouse functions when you holding the Switch in handheld mode.
@@OxKing leaks prove theres a c button. The button is there, but highly speculated that they removed the C for the footage so the public doesnt start asking questions that they wont be answerring anyways
@@BuNnyDuDeDaRoO They didn't remove anything. Everything from the leaks was right, why would they remove a letter from one button? It still would not have told us what it is for anyway. It is definitely not a 'C' button
They should have named it the NSW2-8-XXH
Love this podcast.
Prediction. Switch 2 will be $379.
Sadly, the Nintendo exclusives are going to force my hand into giving them more money... Hardware aside, I want to play games like Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Zelda, etc.
I completely disagree with MK9 not being a system seller. I personally while watching the reveal though o hey that's awesome the next switch I'll wait for a game I am excited about to buy it and then they showed Mario Kart and I instantly wanted to buy it. The difference here with the M1 its that the M1 is a processor which was good enough and people didn't feel the need for something more powerful because the m1 was enough. MK8 Deluxe was relased all the way back in 2017. Switch is a console where we didn't get the next mario kart, just the same game as the previous console. And having it so long in the console most of us unlike russ, who you can tell is not as interested since he hasn't finished all tracks, have played all the tracks, including the dlc tracks to death basically getting muscle memory. So yea a new MK is super exciting and worth buying a new console for many
Great video, I just wish there was a way you could change the name of this channel to something that’s less obnoxious.
If the Switch 2 isn't going to come with oled out the gate, i'm going to wait. According to bloomberg reports, it will launch with an LCD screen. Also if you go back and watch the mario kart 9 trailer, the bezel on the new screen was a bit too much for my liking and not utilizing more real-estate. Just something to think about.
Another great show. Keep it up
Mario Kart 9 looks like an open world racer.
Love the shirt, Cary!
What's your favorite Transformers game?