Just a quality criticism, otherwise great episode guys! There’s someone who’s breathing very heavily during the interview segment and you can clearly hear it picking up on the mic. Maybe make the norm to mute till you talk, maybe push to talk
@@एड्वर्डकॅस्ट्रो Same! This would make playing FPS games like Half Life 2 on my living room TV an actual possibility. Having the touchpads on a standalone controller would be so great!
One way to get back in to games you stopped playing a while ago is by going back 3 or 4 saves. Retreading an hour or so can help get over that hurdle as you remember how to play and get some story reminders of roughly where you were. Of course not all games do a bank of saves but where its possible its a banger.
If you look inside my ears with a microscope, you'll find phrases like, "Super Switch," and "below that like button," embeded on the walls of my ear canals. Love the content, guys! Looking forward to yet another exciting year of handhelds and all the content to follow.
r/SwitchPirates is actually not about how to pirate games but more about how to mod chip a switch and how to enable and install homebrew software like custom themes and overclocking. It's actually not allowed to help people (or promote) how to pirate games at that subreddit.
5-10 hours is a great length for me as well. Funnily enough when you do find those gems which are short and sweet---they always feel too short. Stray was one of them. Finally got around to play it.
The current Steam Controller is already set up for alt-tabbing with the "Guide Button Chord Layout". Guide (Steam) button + Right Menu will open the alt-tab menu and it will stay open while you hold the Guide button. While open, you can use the grip buttons to select between the tasks. So... 🙂
For the last topic, the other use case for the group is for homebrew and / or emulation. I've also seen custom mods on the page as well. I personally followed it to keep up with the modding scene around the console since I happen to have a Lite and a Version 2 that aren't as easily modifiable.
you said the main concern for me with the controller, "Especially if its heavily focussed on the stick". there are a million stick focussed countrollers out there. I just want 1 good one with touchpad focus. we got that with the steam controller. all i want is an update to that. super tired of people that are literally spoiled for choice with stick focussed controllers dictating what one of the few companies doing something different are able to do. that said, i'll pick up 2 on day one anyway because what choice do i have? -_-
Great episode guys! It's nice to have a podcast where everyone is not only competently processing the subject matter, but taking it seriously, staying on topic and making lots of good discussion points. That interview with the Bazzite dev was super cool, too. Learned a lot. Thanks for putting all this together!
Why is the gaming scene so obsessed with sueing everyone instead of actually working hard to make actual good optimised games instead. It's fuking stupid!
1:46:03 I think if Nintendo put their Zelda on steam, and even run it though emulation I would buy it. I don’t have a switch and I don’t want to buy one for just a single game.
After almost a year with NobaraOS on my desktop I installed Bazzite on my desktop PC and both my kids PC's. I already have Bazzite on my Legion Go and my Rog Ally Z1ext.
If valve provides the servers and bandwidth for the developer, i understand that they don't want to see "free keys" being sold cheap on other sites. BUT they absolutely should not try to stop a developer from selling thier products anywhere they want, as long as the infrastructure is provided by the other store.
Part of the reason why Nintendo goes after emulation as hard as they've been doing is because they see non-proprietary emulation as a threat to their sales. Nintendo wants people to play games on *their* hardware in a closed garden type of ecosystem because that's where they get a significant amount of revenue from. They see emulators like Yuzu and Ryujinx as a detriment to their sales because even if emulation is more of a niche thing within the switch userbase and doesn't account for vast majority of users, they don't wan't emulators to take away from sales like what happened with Tears of the Kingdom when that was current. When the Switch 2 comes out, I expect them to continue their practices to keep their sales numbers as high as they can. The point is Nintendo doesn't want you to play games on other hardware like how Microsoft is becoming more platform-agnostic as of late, and how Sony, for all their faults, is releasing some of their games on PC. That is not the type of business Nintendo is pursuing. You don't have to like the decisions Nintendo are making here, I personally don't, but you have to accept that it is what it is from a business perspective. Would it be nice if Nintendo made their exclusives multiplatform so that we can play them on Steam and other consoles without having to resort to emulation to get better performance? Yes, but that's not what Nintendo wants, and we just have to deal with it whether we like it or not. If you really don't like the idea of playing Nintendo games locked down on a singular piece of underpowered hardware, then you're better off just getting a PC handheld at that point and sticking with that. There's tons of great non-nintendo games to play on the steam deck or rog ally anyway.
My hack for returning to long games I haven’t played in a while is that I look for a walkthrough video and skim through it up to the part I left off. Hope this helps you guys out.
You guys really glossed over the difference between selling "steam keys" or selling the game on some other platform. A steam key implies a ton of costs on the backend. Be it storage, bandwith, CDNs, etc. And a ton of other optional integrations: steam workshops, friends list, achievements, etc. All that stuff matter. If you don't want any of that, then don't put your game on steam and do whatever you want. If you sell a steam key, then you should play by their rules. If you don't want to do that, then don't sell steam keys. There are other stores that don't operate with steam keys.
@NerdNest yeah you did. You mentioned it twice and that was great. But you didn't talk about all the services valve provides to the devs. It would be super cool if you could get a dev on the show. A lot of people don't know what goes on behind the scenes. I didn't mean to sound harsh or anything like that.
I like pressing on the touchpad in general - I'd much rather do that to click than pull the trigger in most cases. With that in mind, using the touch pads for the keyboard is just completely natural to me. I'm not the fastest at it, sometimes I'm still trying to reach a key with the wrong touch pad and it still takes me effort to use the additional shortcuts (face buttons for delete/enter, trigger for shift), but at the end of the day, I don't think it's as difficult as it seems. Once you've got the clicking on the pads down, the rest is pretty much automatic.
I understand this hypothetical steam clause applying to key-shops. If a developer is selling a game for substantially less on a key-shop and as a result most of their sales are through the key-shop, valve is providing CDN services and all the nice features of the steam launcher and making nothing off those sales. If this hypothetical clause applies to Epic and other fully independent stores that's scummy.
so as someone who is a member of the group, I assure you that they aren’t actually actively pirating games. however, it’s a resource for people to learn how to hack their switch to be able to play games if they want to. personally, I originally joined it to learn how to hack my switch to be able to back up my Game cartridges and load them onto my steam deck to play them on that so I didn’t have to bring my cartridges everywhere. I went because those are expensive and I at one point when I was younger had my Game Boy case with all of my cartridges stolen when I was traveling and that sucks it’s a lot cheaper to replace a steam deck than it is to replace a Nintendo switch and 30 different cartridges. Another annoying thing Nintendo likes to do that this is a way around is games like Pokémon or animal crossing they won’t let you have the same save on multiple switches. I could always have a back up of my save on my steam deck. I have never pirated a Nintendo game and I never plan to until they win after Yuzu. 1:41:14
1:45:44 that's why the dumper is sort of a good idea, just sort of, it could be like an adapter that makes the cartridge work like an ssd just plug and copy the files. but in doing so it brakes drm so maybe its a bad idea
Most people don't pirate just because they're thieves. People pirate for reasons. For me I'll pirate older games because they're too expensive to buy and play on original hardware (pretty sure everyone on this podcast does that and its still piracy), many pirate Switch stuff because they want to play Switch games but not support Nintendo because of their behavior, some just pirate because they want to play Switch games at better resolution/framerate.
Pretty sure you're hurting the developer more than you are Nintendo when you pirate Switch games. Not to mention the idiocy of hating Nintendo but still playing the games they put out.
Should still buy the games you do end up playing imo. The Devs are ultimately those who get hurt from pirating. Plus pirated software is riddled with malware, virus and bs.
Just a bunch of rationalization’s for stealing because it’s so easy to steal digital goods. I dare you to go out into the real world and start stealing things because of what X company does that you don’t like. Companies provide products to make money. They are not required to offer those products in perpetuity or and whatever price you see fit. I don’t mind that people pirate games but it really bothers me when they try and take the moral high ground for doing it. It’s a mass delusion.
On Tomb Raider, try pressing L1 and see if anything glows. It may be you need to zipline down. You can also press B to hang from the ledge to see if there's a way to climb down.
Couldn't disagree more with the guy saying people are pirating because they are thieves. Pirating and emulation go hand in hand, lets get real. Most people are emulating because we enjoy the technology and laws can be damned.
I'm 100% for Switch Emulation, but we have to be honest, most people using it are stealing the games. Not everyone. But absolutely most. That said, I still think we should be able to do whatever we want with games we've purchased, weather Nintendo likes it or not.
@@NerdNest Who cares, even if they are? Is there any material effect to Nintendo? Some numbers go down on a screen somewhere, and nobody's life is impacted in any way. And it's not coming anywhere close to threatening Nintendo's ability to continue making their products or putting their business in financial jeopardy whatsoever. Do you think that Nintendo cares about being immoral toward you? If you were standing in the way of them making a ton of money but doing nothing wrong, and they were able to send you to prison forever to get rid of you with no consequences, they'd do it. They do not care about you and they are not inhibited by morality. Besides that, piracy is a service issue. If Nintendo provided what people wanted for a reasonable price, there would be no piracy. And I can demonstrate this for you right now. You look about my age or older. Do you remember when basically everyone was pirating music? They would download music, burn them to CDs and later put them on MP3 players. Well, they don't anymore. Because there are services like Spotify to stream music, very convenient and affordable, and you can also still buy the songs and own them on services like Apple Music. And the selection is very, very good, almost anything you want to hear can be streamed or bought. In other words, as soon as a comparable or better music service existed, people were happy to pay, rather than pirate, even though it's much easier to pirate music these days than in the past due to technological advancements, including much faster internet connections. You could download a torrent of virtually every popular song in a decade in a few hours. And yet, most people do not pirate music anymore. The reason people pirate Nintendo games is because Nintendo does not offer a good service at a reasonable price. They are throwing around their money and power to gouge people and force them to do things they don't want to. Their services are vastly inferior to piracy. Piracy is one tool regular people have to push back against behemoths like Nintendo and every other gigantic corporation that is basically accountable to nobody, and has the money to manipulate laws in their favor when someone tries to hold them accountable. Why would any regular person with half a brain speak against pirates? Yes, piracy is technically wrong, but why even talk about it when the companies themselves are not worried about morality in the slightest? They are currently trying to turn everything in to a subscription service so you can never own anything ever again, and you're worried about how they might lose a bit of profit somewhere to pirates, even though it has no material impact on them whatsoever. Oh no, the numbers in a bank account somewhere went down, but everyone who works at Nintendo still gets paid, and the owner(s) are still unimaginably wealthy and it hasn't prevented them from living lavish lifestyles and having literally anything they want forever. I sincerely do not understand why anyone would side with them. The only time you should care is when a company that is consumer friendly and actually adheres to some sort of morality is suffering as a result of piracy. They aren't consumer friendly or moral, and they aren't suffering. So why care?
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Nintendo sells a product at the same price most companies do. You’re okay paying for others, but not Nintendo because you don’t like them? If you don’t want to support Nintendo. Don’t play their games. I think Nintendo are a bunch of asshats. But that doesn’t mean I get to steal from them. If I want to okay their games. I should pay for them. To say anything else is disingenuous if you ask me.
@@NerdNest I love Nintendo, grew up playing them. Even barring the fact that "other people rip their customers off too so you should accept it" is a very bad argument. They do not sell things at a similar price to others. And the gaming industry in general does not sell things at a reasonable price as compared to other forms of entertainment. Unless we're talking about PC gaming. There are great sales and great prices on many PC games. And many of them you can modify as you please and own them forever, playing them on any PC at high settings. Nintendo doesn't even want me to own these old games, they want to sell me a subscription service, and that service won't have anywhere near all of the old games I want to play. I also won't be able to modify them, use filters, increase their resolution, earn retro achievements, set up my own interface and organization of the collection, and so on. And their games run worse on their own console than on the hardware I already own. They are trying to force me to buy their inferior hardware, to pay a subscription fee, etc all for a product that is vastly inferior to piracy. And I've already bought and owned those games multiple times and they shut down their services for them so they can sell them to me again. Each time charging way more than they should cost, considering they made their money back on it and profit off of it many many times over. Just not buying things doesn't work. As games with predatory microtransactions have shown us. There is always a new crop of young people who don't understand they are being ripped off who will pay it, and a select group of wealthier adults who spend thousands of dollars for various reasons. If we allow them to continue on this path, the industry will be irreparably damaged. And you're not likely to get legislation passed stopping these scummy practices because they have so much lobbying power and are in alignment with other corporations who want to end ownership in general. The best way you have to fight back against the ending of ownership in general is piracy. This way they no longer control your games. If they offered me roms of their games, that I could legally buy at a reasonable price and emulate with all the extra features like retro achievements and filters, resolution increases, and the ability to play them on my own hardware, with my own controllers, and organize the collection however I want, and keep them forever, I would buy them. But they don't even come close to offering any of that. And they don't plan on ever offering it. They want to own my games and restrict or remove my access to them any time they want. This is extremely immoral. Why should they have that level of control over things that I buy? As long as that is their policy, I'm not even even sure there is a good argument that piracy is immoral. If a big powerful organization is using their power to destroy an industry to their benefit, why would you be obligated to behave morally toward them? If they want people to behave morally toward them, they should behave morally, no?
I still have an Oculus Rift CV1. It's showing its age. Relatively low resolution, tethered to the PC, and need for external tracking. I've been hoping for a Valve wireless headset for a while now. Looks like it will get here soon.
Haha, this episode has the feel of seeing a game on sale and saying "I still gotta finish that" or "i still gotta play that". I totally get that issue.
If you look at the SC2 leak, it has the Playstation layout but two touchpads on the bottom. Similar placement to where a mini keyboard addon would go. It looks inline to the thumb arc you mentioned so I'd assume it's ergo enough.
I always felt that the original Steam Controller was discontinued more because it was an accessory for Steam Machines, which flopped, than because it was a failure on its own. The utility of it was somewhat dependent on people trying to use computer games on their TVs. It didn't sell particularly well, but that was to be expected if Steam Machines didn't sell.
I don't really use the trackpads on the deck except in desktop mode, so I didn't really care if they were on a new Steam Controller. But thinking about it more, it would make it really great for navigating a ton of different menus or even controlling a mouse on a computer from the couch. It pretty much goes without saying I will buy one anyone because I love Valve and want them to succeed, but now I am actually thinking of the possibilities with those track pads.
Ouch. I personally have a weird memory (and play style) when it comes to games. I typically play a game for about a week, cycle to another, and repeat. Eventually, I make it back to the first game, but here's the craziness: I typically can recall everything that I've done, where I was supposed to be going, what I was supposed to be doing, and even the controls to the game. And this could be months down the line. The only real exceptions to the week rule is if a game is ridiculously terrible, annoying to play, or is a classic style game (typically anything 2D). These games usually get 24 hours tops. Sorry for the random... uh, rant? Back to the video. 😀
I'd buy that new steam controller. I would probably use it more than my Xbox controller and use Steam Input to configure it to work with games like AoE2.
In terms of Privacy with Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are also experiencing this as well however their problems only affect a smaller audience due to them patching out the bug and exploits, however you can still get most PS4 games on current PS4s for free. Nintendo on the other hand, they can't patch their exploit/hack
I bought the Ally OG used a cumple of months ago. Happy with it. Dough. Have to say that when I have access to a good WiFi I use it with GeForce now, lowest tear. Looks incredible and battery life is great and the device is silent at 10w.
Final fantasy 16! Currently playing the Demo and loving it. Ghost… almost platinum but it’s hard. Also abandoning ps and have to buy everything again on pc, but later on. 😅
Over thanksgiving I introduced some family and friends to my Steam deck and heard a member tell his girlfriend ‘I don’t want a Xbox anymore babe’ 💀 😆 I do think some people tho would rather prefer a more powerful system for bigger games like Hogwarts etc. If the big 3 can have powerful boxes why can’t Valve? After the success of Deck they must know now their VR & Steam Machine dreams are very much still alive! 🔥
Just starting the vid, but i hope you talk about the LCD deck on sale. I don't have any handheld and i honestly can't decide if i should get the LCD on sale or not.
I would say it depends on what you want to do with a handheld. For emulation, indie games and older games, the LCD Deck will always be amazing. For modern "big" games, it's getting long in the tooth. I would also consider resale price. If you end up hating the handheld experience, or loving it so much you want to upgrade to something better, you can get a good amount of money back by selling it used. So that makes it a very low risk purchase at this price. If I didn't already have a Deck, I would absolutely have bought one during this sale.
1:45:54 here’s the thing, Nintendo equates emulation with theft. As far as they’re concerned, even if you have paid for the game and you own the game if you’re not playing it on original hardware, it’s theft in their eyes.
Black myth wukong, I stopped playing in like act 2-3 and haven't started it back up because I already know that I can't play it anymore and will need tutorials again.
37:47 Please play half life Alyx, also check out what's been done in the Flat2VR space: UEVR is available for lots of Unreal Engine games, the R.E.A.L. VR mod for Cyberpunk 2077 is incredible as well. This just goes to show you what is possible for just adding VR to AAA. I think there is worry about developing due VR specifically in the industry, which is understandable, however, if they just make it part of the engine and open it up to the community, things would take off, IMHO.
1:33:07 sure i agree with you there, they got to the top because they where good product (thats good we want that). BUT the point of antitrust is not just how you got there, but also what did you do to stay on top google got to the top because they offered a good product (sort of muddy waters there is those lawsuits they won at the start about copyright and google books) the lawsuit they lost was about the sort of deals they have been making to stay on top, do they sort of stomp on everybody else?
I would love to see steam game cloud, small box with my whole games library (even games from idiots like PlayStation or rockstar who don't allow their games to be streamed via the cloud) and this steam controller
I was really thinking with the latest updates SteamOS has been doing with Nvidia support and the controllers there might be some talk of Steam Machines being released in the future. I want my Steamdeck experience on my tv but with my 4090 specs to play the AAA games on my big screen chilling on the couch.
You don't really need a Steam Machine for that though, you just need Steam OS running on a PC. I haven't used it, but isn't that basically what Bazzite is?
@@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY I have watched a few videos on Bazzite and while it looks really close to what i want its just not at the polish level i want for the relaxed plug and play controller only set up. i want a full console experience without having to mess around with drivers and config all the time.
@@shaunmadden545 Yeah, fair enough, but I still feel like that could be achieved with a new Steam Controller and Steam OS for PC. I would prefer that to buying new hardware personally, but I wouldn't be opposed to a Steam Machine either.
@@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY yeah totally don't need a steam machine, I was just using the name because it was kind of just a PC with steamos on it. I am excited to get one of the new steam controllers and I'll probably give bazzite a crack a some point.
@@shaunmadden545 Yeah, Bazzite is coming along at the right time I think. Windows will soon force everyone to Win 11. I am going to try to switch to Linux then, and I'm thinking Bazzite will be the distro.
Gog store front is Horrible they shot themselves in the foot with that design. That's the only reason I sometimes ignore even looking at GOG games. If they had a design not identical to steams store but close enough I would buy from them more often.
"Valve shouldn't be forcing developers to not sell their games cheaper on alternative platforms and then swearing those developers into secrecy about it. IF Valve is doing that they need to stop." Valve also needs to stop murdering people to cover-up this story. IF Valve has been doing that, it should stop.
So many leaks… the leaked steam controller here, the leaked steam controller there… maybe we‘ll get early info about a culinary gamepad… the „steamed leak controller“ 😂
Hold up @ThePhawx... Are you telling me you LITERALLY have over 10k games on steam? Finally a challenger has appeared and I no longer feel ashamed of having over 2k in my steam library!
I'm with The Phawx. I have over 600 games (rookie) on Steam and I MAY have bought 75 of them ON STEAM. I use Green Man Gaming and Fanatical mostly, but I'm not completely tarded so I check IsThereAnyDeal first.
Just a quality criticism, otherwise great episode guys! There’s someone who’s breathing very heavily during the interview segment and you can clearly hear it picking up on the mic. Maybe make the norm to mute till you talk, maybe push to talk
If that truly is the new Steam controller, it's a auto-buy for me.
@@एड्वर्डकॅस्ट्रो Same! This would make playing FPS games like Half Life 2 on my living room TV an actual possibility. Having the touchpads on a standalone controller would be so great!
One way to get back in to games you stopped playing a while ago is by going back 3 or 4 saves. Retreading an hour or so can help get over that hurdle as you remember how to play and get some story reminders of roughly where you were. Of course not all games do a bank of saves but where its possible its a banger.
Or watching someone play through it on UA-cam is a good refresher.
If you look inside my ears with a microscope, you'll find phrases like, "Super Switch," and "below that like button," embeded on the walls of my ear canals. Love the content, guys! Looking forward to yet another exciting year of handhelds and all the content to follow.
Thanks! I appreciate the support!
r/SwitchPirates is actually not about how to pirate games but more about how to mod chip a switch and how to enable and install homebrew software like custom themes and overclocking. It's actually not allowed to help people (or promote) how to pirate games at that subreddit.
Then it should be called "r/SwitchModding". The current name just puts an unnecessary target on one's back.
@@MiraiKishi Maybe they all like pirates ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I am obsessed with your podcast. 26 year old nerd 👋 thank you guys for showing me the gaming podcast side of UA-cam. Much needed
To the founder of Bazzite: Thank you for everything. Made my lenovo legion go more awesome.
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Word. I'd recommend a better Mic too. Maybe some Flonase too.
@@FanTheDeck YT needs to give you the checkmark.
@@AliAzar203 I’ve read Bazzite as Blizard. I'm like, what? How did it make your legion go better? 😂😂
1:10:36 Bravo to Bill for hanging with the Linux nerds!
The XKCD comic reference was on point lol.
It's too relevant it hurts 😭
5-10 hours is a great length for me as well. Funnily enough when you do find those gems which are short and sweet---they always feel too short. Stray was one of them. Finally got around to play it.
The current Steam Controller is already set up for alt-tabbing with the "Guide Button Chord Layout". Guide (Steam) button + Right Menu will open the alt-tab menu and it will stay open while you hold the Guide button. While open, you can use the grip buttons to select between the tasks. So... 🙂
For the last topic, the other use case for the group is for homebrew and / or emulation. I've also seen custom mods on the page as well. I personally followed it to keep up with the modding scene around the console since I happen to have a Lite and a Version 2 that aren't as easily modifiable.
you said the main concern for me with the controller, "Especially if its heavily focussed on the stick". there are a million stick focussed countrollers out there. I just want 1 good one with touchpad focus. we got that with the steam controller. all i want is an update to that. super tired of people that are literally spoiled for choice with stick focussed controllers dictating what one of the few companies doing something different are able to do. that said, i'll pick up 2 on day one anyway because what choice do i have? -_-
Great episode guys! It's nice to have a podcast where everyone is not only competently processing the subject matter, but taking it seriously, staying on topic and making lots of good discussion points. That interview with the Bazzite dev was super cool, too. Learned a lot. Thanks for putting all this together!
Valve actually is kind of damaged by third party key sellers, because Valve is doing all the game hosting/bandwidth which costs money
Why is the gaming scene so obsessed with sueing everyone instead of actually working hard to make actual good optimised games instead. It's fuking stupid!
Because games are made by tourists nowadays who want jobs to brag about and not because they are nerds who love the medium
1:46:03 I think if Nintendo put their Zelda on steam, and even run it though emulation I would buy it. I don’t have a switch and I don’t want to buy one for just a single game.
After almost a year with NobaraOS on my desktop I installed Bazzite on my desktop PC and both my kids PC's. I already have Bazzite on my Legion Go and my Rog Ally Z1ext.
If valve provides the servers and bandwidth for the developer, i understand that they don't want to see "free keys" being sold cheap on other sites. BUT they absolutely should not try to stop a developer from selling thier products anywhere they want, as long as the infrastructure is provided by the other store.
If that image is real, it looks like the controller I've wanted ever since I got my deck.
Part of the reason why Nintendo goes after emulation as hard as they've been doing is because they see non-proprietary emulation as a threat to their sales. Nintendo wants people to play games on *their* hardware in a closed garden type of ecosystem because that's where they get a significant amount of revenue from. They see emulators like Yuzu and Ryujinx as a detriment to their sales because even if emulation is more of a niche thing within the switch userbase and doesn't account for vast majority of users, they don't wan't emulators to take away from sales like what happened with Tears of the Kingdom when that was current. When the Switch 2 comes out, I expect them to continue their practices to keep their sales numbers as high as they can. The point is Nintendo doesn't want you to play games on other hardware like how Microsoft is becoming more platform-agnostic as of late, and how Sony, for all their faults, is releasing some of their games on PC. That is not the type of business Nintendo is pursuing. You don't have to like the decisions Nintendo are making here, I personally don't, but you have to accept that it is what it is from a business perspective. Would it be nice if Nintendo made their exclusives multiplatform so that we can play them on Steam and other consoles without having to resort to emulation to get better performance? Yes, but that's not what Nintendo wants, and we just have to deal with it whether we like it or not. If you really don't like the idea of playing Nintendo games locked down on a singular piece of underpowered hardware, then you're better off just getting a PC handheld at that point and sticking with that. There's tons of great non-nintendo games to play on the steam deck or rog ally anyway.
My hack for returning to long games I haven’t played in a while is that I look for a walkthrough video and skim through it up to the part I left off. Hope this helps you guys out.
You guys really glossed over the difference between selling "steam keys" or selling the game on some other platform.
A steam key implies a ton of costs on the backend. Be it storage, bandwith, CDNs, etc. And a ton of other optional integrations: steam workshops, friends list, achievements, etc. All that stuff matter. If you don't want any of that, then don't put your game on steam and do whatever you want. If you sell a steam key, then you should play by their rules. If you don't want to do that, then don't sell steam keys. There are other stores that don't operate with steam keys.
I don’t feel that we glossed over that at all. We specifically talked about that.
@NerdNest yeah you did. You mentioned it twice and that was great. But you didn't talk about all the services valve provides to the devs. It would be super cool if you could get a dev on the show. A lot of people don't know what goes on behind the scenes. I didn't mean to sound harsh or anything like that.
I like pressing on the touchpad in general - I'd much rather do that to click than pull the trigger in most cases. With that in mind, using the touch pads for the keyboard is just completely natural to me. I'm not the fastest at it, sometimes I'm still trying to reach a key with the wrong touch pad and it still takes me effort to use the additional shortcuts (face buttons for delete/enter, trigger for shift), but at the end of the day, I don't think it's as difficult as it seems. Once you've got the clicking on the pads down, the rest is pretty much automatic.
I understand this hypothetical steam clause applying to key-shops. If a developer is selling a game for substantially less on a key-shop and as a result most of their sales are through the key-shop, valve is providing CDN services and all the nice features of the steam launcher and making nothing off those sales. If this hypothetical clause applies to Epic and other fully independent stores that's scummy.
so as someone who is a member of the group, I assure you that they aren’t actually actively pirating games. however, it’s a resource for people to learn how to hack their switch to be able to play games if they want to.
personally, I originally joined it to learn how to hack my switch to be able to back up my Game cartridges and load them onto my steam deck to play them on that so I didn’t have to bring my cartridges everywhere. I went because those are expensive and I at one point when I was younger had my Game Boy case with all of my cartridges stolen when I was traveling and that sucks it’s a lot cheaper to replace a steam deck than it is to replace a Nintendo switch and 30 different cartridges.
Another annoying thing Nintendo likes to do that this is a way around is games like Pokémon or animal crossing they won’t let you have the same save on multiple switches. I could always have a back up of my save on my steam deck.
I have never pirated a Nintendo game and I never plan to until they win after Yuzu. 1:41:14
Am I the only one that is worried that Kari's earphones are about to fly out of his ears? 😂
What up with the editing? Rich showed his plaque, and the camera completely ignored it.
Shoot! I didn't even notice that I did that. Sorry!
@NerdNest hah I thought, maybe it had some identifying info and yall cut it out.
No, I just screwed up at the end of a long edit.
1:45:44 that's why the dumper is sort of a good idea, just sort of, it could be like an adapter that makes the cartridge work like an ssd just plug and copy the files. but in doing so it brakes drm so maybe its a bad idea
Most people don't pirate just because they're thieves. People pirate for reasons. For me I'll pirate older games because they're too expensive to buy and play on original hardware (pretty sure everyone on this podcast does that and its still piracy), many pirate Switch stuff because they want to play Switch games but not support Nintendo because of their behavior, some just pirate because they want to play Switch games at better resolution/framerate.
Pretty sure you're hurting the developer more than you are Nintendo when you pirate Switch games. Not to mention the idiocy of hating Nintendo but still playing the games they put out.
@sandplasma you can hate a creator while loving their creations this should not be hard to understand
@@ThisisCitrus 🤣
Should still buy the games you do end up playing imo. The Devs are ultimately those who get hurt from pirating. Plus pirated software is riddled with malware, virus and bs.
Just a bunch of rationalization’s for stealing because it’s so easy to steal digital goods. I dare you to go out into the real world and start stealing things because of what X company does that you don’t like. Companies provide products to make money. They are not required to offer those products in perpetuity or and whatever price you see fit.
I don’t mind that people pirate games but it really bothers me when they try and take the moral high ground for doing it. It’s a mass delusion.
On Tomb Raider, try pressing L1 and see if anything glows. It may be you need to zipline down. You can also press B to hang from the ledge to see if there's a way to climb down.
Set up an Elgato Stream Deck with custom pictures for your kids for when they play pc games
Couldn't disagree more with the guy saying people are pirating because they are thieves. Pirating and emulation go hand in hand, lets get real. Most people are emulating because we enjoy the technology and laws can be damned.
I'm 100% for Switch Emulation, but we have to be honest, most people using it are stealing the games. Not everyone. But absolutely most. That said, I still think we should be able to do whatever we want with games we've purchased, weather Nintendo likes it or not.
@@NerdNest Who cares, even if they are? Is there any material effect to Nintendo? Some numbers go down on a screen somewhere, and nobody's life is impacted in any way. And it's not coming anywhere close to threatening Nintendo's ability to continue making their products or putting their business in financial jeopardy whatsoever. Do you think that Nintendo cares about being immoral toward you? If you were standing in the way of them making a ton of money but doing nothing wrong, and they were able to send you to prison forever to get rid of you with no consequences, they'd do it. They do not care about you and they are not inhibited by morality.
Besides that, piracy is a service issue. If Nintendo provided what people wanted for a reasonable price, there would be no piracy. And I can demonstrate this for you right now. You look about my age or older. Do you remember when basically everyone was pirating music? They would download music, burn them to CDs and later put them on MP3 players. Well, they don't anymore. Because there are services like Spotify to stream music, very convenient and affordable, and you can also still buy the songs and own them on services like Apple Music. And the selection is very, very good, almost anything you want to hear can be streamed or bought. In other words, as soon as a comparable or better music service existed, people were happy to pay, rather than pirate, even though it's much easier to pirate music these days than in the past due to technological advancements, including much faster internet connections. You could download a torrent of virtually every popular song in a decade in a few hours. And yet, most people do not pirate music anymore.
The reason people pirate Nintendo games is because Nintendo does not offer a good service at a reasonable price. They are throwing around their money and power to gouge people and force them to do things they don't want to. Their services are vastly inferior to piracy. Piracy is one tool regular people have to push back against behemoths like Nintendo and every other gigantic corporation that is basically accountable to nobody, and has the money to manipulate laws in their favor when someone tries to hold them accountable. Why would any regular person with half a brain speak against pirates? Yes, piracy is technically wrong, but why even talk about it when the companies themselves are not worried about morality in the slightest? They are currently trying to turn everything in to a subscription service so you can never own anything ever again, and you're worried about how they might lose a bit of profit somewhere to pirates, even though it has no material impact on them whatsoever. Oh no, the numbers in a bank account somewhere went down, but everyone who works at Nintendo still gets paid, and the owner(s) are still unimaginably wealthy and it hasn't prevented them from living lavish lifestyles and having literally anything they want forever. I sincerely do not understand why anyone would side with them. The only time you should care is when a company that is consumer friendly and actually adheres to some sort of morality is suffering as a result of piracy. They aren't consumer friendly or moral, and they aren't suffering. So why care?
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Nintendo sells a product at the same price most companies do. You’re okay paying for others, but not Nintendo because you don’t like them?
If you don’t want to support Nintendo. Don’t play their games.
I think Nintendo are a bunch of asshats. But that doesn’t mean I get to steal from them. If I want to okay their games. I should pay for them.
To say anything else is disingenuous if you ask me.
@@NerdNest I love Nintendo, grew up playing them. Even barring the fact that "other people rip their customers off too so you should accept it" is a very bad argument. They do not sell things at a similar price to others. And the gaming industry in general does not sell things at a reasonable price as compared to other forms of entertainment. Unless we're talking about PC gaming. There are great sales and great prices on many PC games. And many of them you can modify as you please and own them forever, playing them on any PC at high settings.
Nintendo doesn't even want me to own these old games, they want to sell me a subscription service, and that service won't have anywhere near all of the old games I want to play. I also won't be able to modify them, use filters, increase their resolution, earn retro achievements, set up my own interface and organization of the collection, and so on. And their games run worse on their own console than on the hardware I already own.
They are trying to force me to buy their inferior hardware, to pay a subscription fee, etc all for a product that is vastly inferior to piracy. And I've already bought and owned those games multiple times and they shut down their services for them so they can sell them to me again. Each time charging way more than they should cost, considering they made their money back on it and profit off of it many many times over.
Just not buying things doesn't work. As games with predatory microtransactions have shown us. There is always a new crop of young people who don't understand they are being ripped off who will pay it, and a select group of wealthier adults who spend thousands of dollars for various reasons. If we allow them to continue on this path, the industry will be irreparably damaged.
And you're not likely to get legislation passed stopping these scummy practices because they have so much lobbying power and are in alignment with other corporations who want to end ownership in general. The best way you have to fight back against the ending of ownership in general is piracy. This way they no longer control your games.
If they offered me roms of their games, that I could legally buy at a reasonable price and emulate with all the extra features like retro achievements and filters, resolution increases, and the ability to play them on my own hardware, with my own controllers, and organize the collection however I want, and keep them forever, I would buy them.
But they don't even come close to offering any of that. And they don't plan on ever offering it. They want to own my games and restrict or remove my access to them any time they want. This is extremely immoral. Why should they have that level of control over things that I buy? As long as that is their policy, I'm not even even sure there is a good argument that piracy is immoral. If a big powerful organization is using their power to destroy an industry to their benefit, why would you be obligated to behave morally toward them? If they want people to behave morally toward them, they should behave morally, no?
I still have an Oculus Rift CV1. It's showing its age. Relatively low resolution, tethered to the PC, and need for external tracking. I've been hoping for a Valve wireless headset for a while now. Looks like it will get here soon.
Haha, this episode has the feel of seeing a game on sale and saying "I still gotta finish that" or "i still gotta play that". I totally get that issue.
If you look at the SC2 leak, it has the Playstation layout but two touchpads on the bottom. Similar placement to where a mini keyboard addon would go. It looks inline to the thumb arc you mentioned so I'd assume it's ergo enough.
I always felt that the original Steam Controller was discontinued more because it was an accessory for Steam Machines, which flopped, than because it was a failure on its own. The utility of it was somewhat dependent on people trying to use computer games on their TVs. It didn't sell particularly well, but that was to be expected if Steam Machines didn't sell.
Did I miss something, when was Yuzu ever challenged in court?
New to this podcast, Rich brought me in, love it. Will be staying tuned
Very cool interview!! well done guys, awesome to hear from a bazzite dev!
I don't really use the trackpads on the deck except in desktop mode, so I didn't really care if they were on a new Steam Controller. But thinking about it more, it would make it really great for navigating a ton of different menus or even controlling a mouse on a computer from the couch. It pretty much goes without saying I will buy one anyone because I love Valve and want them to succeed, but now I am actually thinking of the possibilities with those track pads.
16:26 you can do the weird touchpad stuff on the original steam controller.
Ouch. I personally have a weird memory (and play style) when it comes to games. I typically play a game for about a week, cycle to another, and repeat. Eventually, I make it back to the first game, but here's the craziness: I typically can recall everything that I've done, where I was supposed to be going, what I was supposed to be doing, and even the controls to the game. And this could be months down the line. The only real exceptions to the week rule is if a game is ridiculously terrible, annoying to play, or is a classic style game (typically anything 2D). These games usually get 24 hours tops. Sorry for the random... uh, rant? Back to the video. 😀
I'm beyond excited for the next Steam controller.
Somebody breathing hard on the mic* 😂
Linux Danny McBride!!! 😂. I love Bazzite and have been using it ~ February 2024. Previously I used ChimeraOS (when it was called GamerOS)
I'd buy that new steam controller.
I would probably use it more than my Xbox controller and use Steam Input to configure it to work with games like AoE2.
At this point I’m juts waiting for the next gen of handhelds. Ally x is the most tempting
I really enjoyed the interview! I hope you do more of them with maybe some game developers too!
Very fun episode overall thanks for the fun time!
Random, but what cameras are yall using to record yourselves guys???
I talk about this over on my content creation channel. UA-cam.com/billfairchild
Nice specs 😎 and a new intro nice.
looks too bulky i go for swappable joy stick or dpad option for touch pads , or put the touch pad on the back to keep controller size smaller
In terms of Privacy with Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are also experiencing this as well however their problems only affect a smaller audience due to them patching out the bug and exploits, however you can still get most PS4 games on current PS4s for free. Nintendo on the other hand, they can't patch their exploit/hack
I bought the Ally OG used a cumple of months ago. Happy with it. Dough. Have to say that when I have access to a good WiFi I use it with GeForce now, lowest tear. Looks incredible and battery life is great and the device is silent at 10w.
Final fantasy 16! Currently playing the Demo and loving it. Ghost… almost platinum but it’s hard. Also abandoning ps and have to buy everything again on pc, but later on. 😅
Over thanksgiving I introduced some family and friends to my Steam deck and heard a member tell his girlfriend ‘I don’t want a Xbox anymore babe’ 💀 😆
I do think some people tho would rather prefer a more powerful system for bigger games like Hogwarts etc. If the big 3 can have powerful boxes why can’t Valve?
After the success of Deck they must know now their VR & Steam Machine dreams are very much still alive! 🔥
Just starting the vid, but i hope you talk about the LCD deck on sale. I don't have any handheld and i honestly can't decide if i should get the LCD on sale or not.
I thought about it during the episode but didn’t want to interrupt. Then I forgot about it.
@@NerdNest that's the benefit of age.. I forgot about 5 minutes after I wrote the comment. :)
I would say it depends on what you want to do with a handheld. For emulation, indie games and older games, the LCD Deck will always be amazing. For modern "big" games, it's getting long in the tooth.
I would also consider resale price. If you end up hating the handheld experience, or loving it so much you want to upgrade to something better, you can get a good amount of money back by selling it used. So that makes it a very low risk purchase at this price.
If I didn't already have a Deck, I would absolutely have bought one during this sale.
1:45:54 here’s the thing, Nintendo equates emulation with theft. As far as they’re concerned, even if you have paid for the game and you own the game if you’re not playing it on original hardware, it’s theft in their eyes.
Ny steam controller broke right in time for stalker 2 and my pc is on a projector so ive been playing with my other joystick a lot more
On the topic of key shops, what key shops do y'all recommend if any?
Legend of Zelda: 2nd Amendment. "It's dangerous to go alone. Stay strapped or get clapped, son."
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2:00 what are the system requirements for shotgun legend? will steam deck handle it? 🎮
Black myth wukong, I stopped playing in like act 2-3 and haven't started it back up because I already know that I can't play it anymore and will need tutorials again.
Unless steam recognizes a controler, it may as well be useless.
1:21:03 didn't folks at wolfire games start the humble bundle company? Maybe that's the motivation. Make their store look better.
Yeah just checked Wikipedia, they did start humble bundle.
37:47 Please play half life Alyx, also check out what's been done in the Flat2VR space: UEVR is available for lots of Unreal Engine games, the R.E.A.L. VR mod for Cyberpunk 2077 is incredible as well. This just goes to show you what is possible for just adding VR to AAA. I think there is worry about developing due VR specifically in the industry, which is understandable, however, if they just make it part of the engine and open it up to the community, things would take off, IMHO.
Ryujinx is still available...
Shhhh🤫 Keep it secret, keep it safe
1:33:07 sure i agree with you there, they got to the top because they where good product (thats good we want that). BUT the point of antitrust is not just how you got there, but also what did you do to stay on top
google got to the top because they offered a good product (sort of muddy waters there is those lawsuits they won at the start about copyright and google books) the lawsuit they lost was about the sort of deals they have been making to stay on top, do they sort of stomp on everybody else?
I would love to see
steam game cloud, small box with my whole games library (even games from idiots like PlayStation or rockstar who don't allow their games to be streamed via the cloud) and this steam controller
I was really thinking with the latest updates SteamOS has been doing with Nvidia support and the controllers there might be some talk of Steam Machines being released in the future.
I want my Steamdeck experience on my tv but with my 4090 specs to play the AAA games on my big screen chilling on the couch.
You don't really need a Steam Machine for that though, you just need Steam OS running on a PC. I haven't used it, but isn't that basically what Bazzite is?
@@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY I have watched a few videos on Bazzite and while it looks really close to what i want its just not at the polish level i want for the relaxed plug and play controller only set up. i want a full console experience without having to mess around with drivers and config all the time.
@@shaunmadden545 Yeah, fair enough, but I still feel like that could be achieved with a new Steam Controller and Steam OS for PC. I would prefer that to buying new hardware personally, but I wouldn't be opposed to a Steam Machine either.
@@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY yeah totally don't need a steam machine, I was just using the name because it was kind of just a PC with steamos on it.
I am excited to get one of the new steam controllers and I'll probably give bazzite a crack a some point.
@@shaunmadden545 Yeah, Bazzite is coming along at the right time I think. Windows will soon force everyone to Win 11. I am going to try to switch to Linux then, and I'm thinking Bazzite will be the distro.
Gog store front is Horrible they shot themselves in the foot with that design. That's the only reason I sometimes ignore even looking at GOG games. If they had a design not identical to steams store but close enough I would buy from them more often.
And the games are cheaper on Steam, but at least you own the games you buy on GoG. I use the Heroic Games Launcher for both GoG and Epic.
"Valve shouldn't be forcing developers to not sell their games cheaper on alternative platforms and then swearing those developers into secrecy about it. IF Valve is doing that they need to stop." Valve also needs to stop murdering people to cover-up this story. IF Valve has been doing that, it should stop.
One of the guys looks like terrence Howard
the new vr will run the steamdeck soc with steam os
rog ally x is $800 not $700
But it was $100 off.
So many leaks… the leaked steam controller here, the leaked steam controller there… maybe we‘ll get early info about a culinary gamepad… the „steamed leak controller“ 😂
There is no pinned bill comment? seems a bit naked down here.
BANGER episode 🔥🔥🔥
Please ask Carey so remove his toupee on a live stream.
1:04:34 microsoft
If Gabe went bald, you'd be his doppelganger
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Hold up @ThePhawx...
Are you telling me you LITERALLY have over 10k games on steam? Finally a challenger has appeared and I no longer feel ashamed of having over 2k in my steam library!
I'm with The Phawx. I have over 600 games (rookie) on Steam and I MAY have bought 75 of them ON STEAM. I use Green Man Gaming and Fanatical mostly, but I'm not completely tarded so I check IsThereAnyDeal first.