You do realize the UA-camrs are doing just fine right… they only complaint is that it takes too long to find a game because they are so good most UA-camrs are easily top 500 that you watch bro 😂
This is the dumbest concept I ever heard. The top players wanna play bums for fun, while simultaneously calling casuals bums smfh... this is embarrassing frfr, yall content creators pathetic, calling yaselves comp but don't wanna play comp lmao
All I do all day long is play comp. Every night I play ranked pro am tournaments for money. I play wagers all the time in the park. There’s a balance between wanting to play “comp” and wanting to have a balance in the game. Every game should not be game 7. Again if there was rewards for it, I’d completely change my perspective, but there’s no world where it’s logical to have it set it up like this. Gaming before 2020 was significantly more popular than it is now.
@Duke9793 No, I'm not, yall are. The point is to make the game fun and balanced for all.... not just the top players. You can't have it both ways. Yall want to play comp when you feel like it and spend the majority of the time dominating inferior comp. That sounds like a scrub to me. I ain't a 2k legend so I don't care, but I do care that the Dame mfs who cried and caused this wack ass skill gap, are now crying cuz they tired of playing equal opponents in skill lmao. Imagine an nba player complaining every night he gotta play a pro team when he wanna play CBA teams from time to time lmao, NBA fans would clown dude forever. Meanwhile, yall wanna give a pass to the same mfs who gonna call u a bum/bot when they beat you 100 times in a row "for fun" lmao. I get his point, it's just weak, soft, and dumb flat out. The best should constantly play the best. If u don't want to, then play another game..... simple
@@Duke9793Bro that's life. The better u get, the greater the competition. And skill-based has been in the game for years. It wasn't as responsive, but the higher rep u were u would get in harder parks. If we really listen to what choc is saying is, “ I want to play 10 hours a day and play people that play less then 10 hours a WEEK.”
The only ones crying are comp/UA-camrs lol. Can’t crash on noobs so you want the whole game changed. Most games are like this these days. Only good players cry about SBMM cos they can’t pub stomp no more
Exactly they already made the game more difficult for the casual player because the content creators cried about a skill gap, now they give them what they want but they not happy because they can’t beat up on casuals when they feel like it.
Anybody that agrees with you is brain dead why should any good player have to wait 30+ minutes for a single sweat 2k game you casuals like losing and don’t care who you have on your team because your going to get bum games either way
The only people you can see cry are comp/UA-camrs because they’re the only ones with a following lol. Again, what I’ve learned from this is you guys don’t even listen to anything that’s said. I play comp all day everyday. I am the #1 ranked proving grounds guard lol. But there is a time and place for everything.
I think the best solution is simple Create a building called "Casual Courts" make 5 rooms (1's, 2's, 3's, 4's, 5's) let that building have no SBMM and HEAVILY reduce rewards (REP, VC, EXP, ETC) that way no one can abuse the no SBMM to gain rewards faster due to easy matchups, you can have your for fun games here all you want. Then increase the rewards where SBMM exists by giving more REP, VC, EXP, ETC so progression in the game comes from COMPETING and not boosting against lower skilled people, rewards can be based on the skill level of the opponents you beat the higher the better.
yall not even listening to the video. I just read countless comments talking about things he covered in the video. None of yall see a problem with what he’s talking about because yall in the lower tier match making. When you get to a certain point this year it’s not even enjoyable anymore for simple fact that you have to wait soooo long because they can’t find you games.
I think you are actually the first person I've seen raise the point about VC and rep being equal for different ranks. You're spot on there, a simple change that i think would make everyone's experience more enjoyable - add a multiplier for rep/vc for higher ranked games. Could be based off of plate colour of the people you're vs easily, similar to mycareer does with difficulty. Then at least there's a reward to playing against sweats. Also agree that theatre and rec should just be non sbmm, I'm not even particularly good at the game, but when you get a W against some red plates and you weren't expecting it you feel like a boss. Also humbles you after beating teams of brown plates and teaches you new tricks from better players
I really wanted to enjoy 2k25 i practiced and learned the game. They did alot but they left out a key component to make the game FUN FOR EVERYONE PERIOD. WHY THE HELL ARE WE PLAYING GAMES FOR NOW? The gaming industry in general has dropped the ball massively...truly sad times..
Bit of a long post incoming; You do have some valid points. Objectively speaking though, it's better for it to be in the game rather than not. Could use some tweaks for sure (namely alleviating the matchmaking at high MVP ranking requirements so you can actually fill a lobby, or a separate gamemode that doesn't have SBMM but with reduced rewards to avoid "tryhards" abusing it, maybe incentivizing the ranked modes more but WITHOUT screwing over Rec, Theatre-onlys), but as someone who plays no squads Rec a good bit during some downtime the quality of the games this year is just so much fucking better than the other 2Ks. Not as much lobby leaving, fishing for better ranks, teammates get better as your ranking rises, etc. It's just a much better experience this year. Sure, there's still some frustrating games, but that's the risk you run playing solo and with people you don't know. I can tell you now, though, that I'd much rather have 100 competitive games down to the wire with players on my level than 50 games completely stomping the opponent then vice-versa the other 50 because the matchmaking is "balanced". Also, to address your point about COD... COD just simply has a different philosophy. Your terrible teammates have much less of an impact on how much fun you're having, whereas in 2K, one teammate can completely ruin your experience and be the difference between you winning or losing. You only have one basketball to share, whereas in COD, one teammate completely shitting the bed has (mostly) nothing to do with your overall KDA and the gun you shoot, which most players will have fun with in terms of their skill expression. Honestly, outside of the tweaks I suggested there's no real way of going about this. Any change will cause some arguing in the community. Knowing 2K they'll go about this the completely wrong way and fuck over one side too much making the game worse than it is now and dropping the playercount more. Something I want to mention though is that the idea of "casually" playing is overrated as hell. It's an online PVP game. People are going to try to win no matter what, regardless of what your definition of casual is. It's literally human nature. You wanna screw around, throw up some halfcourt shots? Go to MyCourt and invite some friends who will also have that in mind. No one's stopping you other than friend availability or yourself. You can still go to squads Theatre, Rec, or even Pro-Am 3V3 and fuck around. Sure, your opponents might be stomping you, but you're here to have fun and mess around, right? It's not like you're getting shot IRL for losing in 2K. I'm not saying everyone who wants less sweaty gameplay wants to curbstomp noobs all the time, but honestly, that's like the majority of people who complain about SBMM. You aren't slick, dawg. Too many of those guys just out themselves the moment they get the opportunity. I know damn well most of you just want to fuck up some unsuspecting REAL casuals because you got fucked up by someone who's theoretically on the same level as you. Don't even get me started on people making literal NEW builds and investing VC into the most optimal stats without using too much of their stash, that's just pathetic.
It just sucks cuz playing w a irl who don’t really understand the game fr .. like chunking up dumb shots or trying to dunk on 3 ppl 😂 it’s so crucial this 2k to score every possession
I do like the concept of sbmm in certain mode like no squads rec but every game is sweat central. I definitely don’t play as much but really think 24 match making was better overall.
I'm not sure if anyone else has this, but I don't have a full 5 for rec, so I run with a buddy, we'll play with other squads. Why tf are we facing teams running zones that are together and communicating. We have a split team, but we face full squads everytime. Additionally, we are both solid players, but yet we get rather bad teammates. The combo of those two checked me out of this game, park is kinda sweaty and my build doesn't work to well with it, and I'm not much of a park player tbh. Shits all outta wack.
Exactly I don’t understand why my boy wants to go in the rec with 2 or 3 we literally going to have a Ai or fandoms who ball hog and play a full squad..
Last night, i had my first experience with matchmaking. Just tryna get a rec game it took 20 mins to finally get a full match, and best part i dont get play that much, so i only just got promoted from the bottom tier ti whatever the next tier is. In no way i should be waiting that long. Id consider myself average, and in no mode should it ever take that long unless its like super high tier. Not my casual ballin. Smdh. Preach my dude.
That godz event really showed me how trash sbmm is. I’m playing Ts with my lil brother and homeboy I think we played only starter 3’s and a couple pros on our 6 game streak. I’m good at the game but haven’t to be quiet locked in the whole time is not a fun experience
I’ve got a 15 min clip trying to play Rec with randoms and I think it was more than 20 minutes. Last year players play with goat player. This year players see a goat tier in pre-lobby they’re gone instantly.
I used to go in the theater & play 1s to practice being comfortable dribbling in front of a defender & get my defense right. Can’t even do that anymore. I was in the red tier but ima casual player why am matched against 3 top 100 proving ground players & 2 centers. Ppl with double the amount of hours I have played
Yall are complaining about the wrong things bro let’s talk about how I got level 40 and the reward is useless 🤣 like wtf is the point of hitting 40 every season
@@Choc2K if I only plan on staying with one build it is. Would’ve been better to just allow us to make Demi gods you already can but there’s no point in grinding to 40 every season unless you are going to make 100 builds
@@BoboMercs idk what he’s talking about lmao it’s definitely useless… you can only use it if you make a new build, buy vc then you can upgrade a badge twice lol. when you could get that badge maxed out in about a week. horrible lvl 40 reward
@@asogretro8290 lmaooo bro seriously!! And honestly you max the badge out faster than that depending on what it is. Like I’m not making 100 builds I make maybe 2 every year and majority of the time I play on one. They kill me with the stupid rewards they give us
Man, that's a good point. Playing top players just to get 200 vc lol. The other good point is how you really don't have any real incentive to be really good at the game. Didn't really think of it like that.
Damn maybe it’s because I’m an old head but just simply beating you and have bragging rights was a good enough reward! You young ppl always need something extra to be motivated smdh
It’s not even ranked though it’s experience based. Like how much you played. NBA doesn’t full on SBMM, they use EOMM, should look in to. It’s engagement optimization, it’s about getting you to play more and spend money. Look in to it. They definitely nerfed my career on the low yesterday too. Be up 22 in the first, get subbed out for 2 minutes and we are down 5.. you’re telling me the rookie bots went on a 30 point run in 2 minutes? 😂
Park should be more like street ball with the street ball dribble moves when you throwing the between their legs or throw the ball at their head. 2k just need to bring back the fun in the game because every game shouldn’t feel like I’m fighting to survive 🥲
@@Choc2K it’s only fun with the right people you run with that’s hella funny but it’s bad when you playing with randoms that’s always trash talking in your ear it’s annoying ngl.
Your not playing it for vc you playing it for 2x rep You went to the sweatiest lobby in the theater it's a game 2k made if you don't like it don't play it Don't cry and ask them to change their ideas to make the few happy
I understand both sides it's wrong the good players got to wait but it would be wrong to have good players play bums or casual players maybe they should make it easier to get RED plates where yaw will have more people to play and the casual players can still play casual players just a thought I'm in the middle I am a quarter away from be PRO rank All I play is 3v3 no squads
Super casual here never run a full squad, every 2k I keep about 60% win , but this 2k is sweaty af. Like dude I'm a gold bar average player my 3% is just around 50% so why am I playing sweats in every game mode?
At the very least they need to take full 5s out of rec. I can’t run with my 2 homies without going against a 5 stack of goat tier running zone and organized offense while we have 2 randoms on our team that don’t know how to play against that
I personally think if casuals are going to talk shit about us good/comp players. Go ahead and complain, but you are just telling them to make the game harder for us. If we are going to have skill based matchmaking in every game mode, we should have rep multipliers in every game mod as well. It should be tied to your tier system. If I’m goat tier give me 2x rep for every game I play. So I can hear all the casuals cry about, “why are you making the game easier for the comp players.” You guys will also cry about anything. You know why dribbling is harder? Cause you casuals cried about it, yet we can still dribble. You know why defense keeps getting easier? Cause you guys can’t play defense for shit. But, you still say these things need to be change because good players find a way too be good. That’s the difference, good players find a way to be good. Bad players want the game handed to them.
I’m telling them to make the game balanced bro. You don’t get double rep for goat tier because you never get games. I’m saying some games should be comp, some should be chill. It’s been like that for 20 years.
Makes no sense to have ranked and then every mode is SBMM. I have a job so I cant play a ton and since im red plate I wait 10-15 mins for games. No fun for ppl who can only play a couple hours a day.. (Especially good players)
Divine facts my guy..!! and once everyone get cap breakers everyone will be going against the same builds same stats and then the rng layups rebounds etc will take over .. no reward for beating sweats we beat 2k league players the other night an got ntn
Yeah but think about it from a casuals perspective, the game takes much more skill this year. Imagine having to play against people who do this for a living, it’s not fair good players should play great players because great players are tired of playing other great players.
@@arongholson4715Nobody is saying u play comp every game, back in 24 even if u were ass, if u played theater and park u were good. Just had to dodge stage and pro am, now it’s only balanced for casuals. And I mean it’s not even working literally most comp people are done with SBMM and pick up a 60 ovr. Now casuals have to play sweats even more because they get hunted lol
I agree, you shouldn’t be playing a casual slider gamemode waiting for 20+ minutes for a game. Keep it in comp slider game modes, if you are a casual and want to play casuals go to a ranked gamemode so you play other casuals, simple
@@Choc2K Hi Choc. The issue is you guys have more skills, knowledge and time to practice than most of the people who play this game(casuals and below). I never crossed starter1 in my life playing 2k because the grind is so big for me that becomes a headache. Now add the cap breakers and animations you get after starter3 to your repertoire. You are on "Godz" land type of tier. The only people that can match you would be people like yourself. Now, what 2k has to create is another theater event or Rec mode without SBMM .. Thank you.
@@JuanKa-A don’t make sense to these content creators. They want to beat up on lesser opponents for “content” IMO it’s weak af and beta mentality to complain about playing players on the same skill level as you
I dont play much online so i dont have those issues but can understand the complaints.. i just wish they buff on ball steals nerf lanes a tad. Shooting could use a small buff bt not imparative to me. I could learn Rhythm but dont like the fact that a person with a lower shooting attribute has a bigger green window then i can..
I respect your opinion but you are forgetting one very important factor.. these games are not designed for you or anyone else to make money. for a large portion of people they just play for fun
The "incentive" is us watching you play and you making money! Bc we can't beat the sweats, we watch you do it. I speak for all your fans. WE DONT WANNA SEE YOU PLAY BOTS!!
the thing i dont like about it is i ranked up fast af and now im playing sweats every gm , and i switched over to rhythm shooting and its tuff to practice my shot when everyone is hugging me in the corner
Just play the game less, that simple. If its that big of a problem then u need to allow the “casuals” to catch up. For content creators who make money off the game and dont want to play less. Deal with it, you choose to play for hours on hours a day. So expect to play people that play hours on hours. There's other games than 2k.
No one single successful game doesnt have a unranked game mode i got a 60% win and aint that good and i still think its fucking tiering that i have to tryhard every game
@@linus2838 It's basketball 💀. Fun comes from competing not easy games. Same with madden. If u have a problem, rookie/ pro offline is an option. Or heck, just play on a lower overall.
Stage has always been the place for sweats while park was for everyone think this ruins the game see myself as slightly above avrage and dont find this matchmaking shit fun its so tiering and no successful game ever had not had a non Ranked game mode where they match everyone
Only problem i see is that gameplay in Ranked is Harder so no bum is going to Play it but removing skill based matchmaking might make the bums that wanna Play bums switch over to Ranked
Bro I feel like playing theater im in a war zone! I played nayynoss and freediddy, n won. I don’t mind playing them but I just want sum bum games. So I can turn my brain off n lay in my bed. It’s like another stage but 2x rep instead of vc
I think that’s the disconnect people keep hearing. They hear “I never want to play good people” and that’s NOT what I’m saying. What I’m saying is I want a BALANCE. Sometimes I wanna sweat, sometimes I wanna LOCK in. That’s all.
Rhythm shooting for PGS is terrible especially with a max lockdown on u😂 I get the boost and adapt and all that bs but bro just give us our x button back and the game would be 100x more fun for EVERYONE
@@stewiegriffinfan18 I average 25 and 12 assists on 50% 3pt this year I get my team involved in simply talking about game enjoyability. U sound mad like u been getting cooked by tuff guards or sumn
@@stewiegriffinfan18 and no they made x button irrelevant by giving it 70% less of a green window than the stick. That’s dumb for sweats and casuals especially w how inconsistent the hitches and gathers are and how it’s randomly delayed
@@jacobcooper7064 if you’re as good as you claim, you shouldn’t be upset. The guards have had too much of an advantage in past 2ks so anything to nerf them is good
It does take a while to get a game sometimes. So when I wait and finally get a game I don't want to have to play you "pros" trying to chill. Every game should be against "pros" if your a "pro". Us casual players disagree with you on this one.
So how did you play 2K before this year? Because before this year this wasn’t a thing. It takes a while to get games because the matchmaking set up. If you’re are saying you forever want to play bums all day long that is lame.
@@Choc2KYes I've played before this year. I'm just saying I want to play close competitive games and I don't mind waiting. Getting blown out is no fun. Love the videos bud, you and black market are fun to watch.
So basically you want to go in the theater to boost. Listen I love your content because you do help me out a lot. You always give extra in your content I appreciate that give you a like all the time for the most part watch the whole video. But you need to stop fucking up the game up every year. I notice every year make a rant about stealing and they nerf the shit. Just play the fucking game bro. Make a 60 to chill if you want to play with us. You what it’s like every time they match us casual with you guys and we get blown out.
I love your vids and gameplay💯 but I am demon on this game I'm the guard that everyone trys to double and trap I love killing whole teams vids coming soon no CAP
Lmao imagine crying about playing people on the same level of skill as yourself! Mfs simps out here frfr….stop praying for an easy button! And that what ppl like Choc get for rushing to rep up, you get what you grind for 😂😂😂
*ayyyyyy yet another clickbait title trash video* btw SBMM is a thing used since 2007 on a lot of games *funny how y'all found out about it's existance almost 2 decades later and start to complain bout it only now lmfao*
They’re not though. You don’t get the experience because you aren’t good at the game, which is fine, but it would be like me telling a carpenter he’s exaggerating the difficulty of his job when I’ve never been a carpenter.
come hang with the best community on twitch every night at www.twitch.tv/choc
Tell ‘em!!!
You do realize the UA-camrs are doing just fine right… they only complaint is that it takes too long to find a game because they are so good most UA-camrs are easily top 500 that you watch bro 😂
This is the dumbest concept I ever heard. The top players wanna play bums for fun, while simultaneously calling casuals bums smfh... this is embarrassing frfr, yall content creators pathetic, calling yaselves comp but don't wanna play comp lmao
You’re missing the whole point lol he literally plays for money . No one wants to sweat 24/7. Use your brain
All I do all day long is play comp. Every night I play ranked pro am tournaments for money. I play wagers all the time in the park. There’s a balance between wanting to play “comp” and wanting to have a balance in the game. Every game should not be game 7. Again if there was rewards for it, I’d completely change my perspective, but there’s no world where it’s logical to have it set it up like this. Gaming before 2020 was significantly more popular than it is now.
@Choc2K we know bro, heavy is the head that wears the crown my guy, if u wanna play weaker players, u need to be weaker.... simple
@Duke9793 No, I'm not, yall are. The point is to make the game fun and balanced for all.... not just the top players. You can't have it both ways. Yall want to play comp when you feel like it and spend the majority of the time dominating inferior comp. That sounds like a scrub to me. I ain't a 2k legend so I don't care, but I do care that the Dame mfs who cried and caused this wack ass skill gap, are now crying cuz they tired of playing equal opponents in skill lmao. Imagine an nba player complaining every night he gotta play a pro team when he wanna play CBA teams from time to time lmao, NBA fans would clown dude forever. Meanwhile, yall wanna give a pass to the same mfs who gonna call u a bum/bot when they beat you 100 times in a row "for fun" lmao. I get his point, it's just weak, soft, and dumb flat out. The best should constantly play the best. If u don't want to, then play another game..... simple
@@Duke9793Bro that's life. The better u get, the greater the competition. And skill-based has been in the game for years. It wasn't as responsive, but the higher rep u were u would get in harder parks. If we really listen to what choc is saying is, “ I want to play 10 hours a day and play people that play less then 10 hours a WEEK.”
As someone who works full time and is some what good at 2k (gold badge) I don't wanna sweat every time I play the game
Felt
The only ones crying are comp/UA-camrs lol. Can’t crash on noobs so you want the whole game changed. Most games are like this these days. Only good players cry about SBMM cos they can’t pub stomp no more
Exactly they already made the game more difficult for the casual player because the content creators cried about a skill gap, now they give them what they want but they not happy because they can’t beat up on casuals when they feel like it.
Facts
Anybody that agrees with you is brain dead why should any good player have to wait 30+ minutes for a single sweat 2k game you casuals like losing and don’t care who you have on your team because your going to get bum games either way
so good players should get punished for being good? Type shit bro💪
The only people you can see cry are comp/UA-camrs because they’re the only ones with a following lol.
Again, what I’ve learned from this is you guys don’t even listen to anything that’s said. I play comp all day everyday. I am the #1 ranked proving grounds guard lol. But there is a time and place for everything.
I think the best solution is simple
Create a building called "Casual Courts" make 5 rooms (1's, 2's, 3's, 4's, 5's) let that building have no SBMM and HEAVILY reduce rewards (REP, VC, EXP, ETC) that way no one can abuse the no SBMM to gain rewards faster due to easy matchups, you can have your for fun games here all you want.
Then increase the rewards where SBMM exists by giving more REP, VC, EXP, ETC so progression in the game comes from COMPETING and not boosting against lower skilled people, rewards can be based on the skill level of the opponents you beat the higher the better.
All they gotta do is increase rewards
yall not even listening to the video. I just read countless comments talking about things he covered in the video. None of yall see a problem with what he’s talking about because yall in the lower tier match making. When you get to a certain point this year it’s not even enjoyable anymore for simple fact that you have to wait soooo long because they can’t find you games.
Because they’re not real comments. These are 1000% not real accounts commenting this. Dead internet is a real thing unfortunately.
@@Choc2K nah your right 😭
I think you are actually the first person I've seen raise the point about VC and rep being equal for different ranks.
You're spot on there, a simple change that i think would make everyone's experience more enjoyable - add a multiplier for rep/vc for higher ranked games. Could be based off of plate colour of the people you're vs easily, similar to mycareer does with difficulty.
Then at least there's a reward to playing against sweats.
Also agree that theatre and rec should just be non sbmm, I'm not even particularly good at the game, but when you get a W against some red plates and you weren't expecting it you feel like a boss. Also humbles you after beating teams of brown plates and teaches you new tricks from better players
Bro even if I made double bc I wouldn’t care I just wanna be rewarded
Man Choc speak on it!! I couldn’t agree more. I love playing Comp but when I go to Rec with my IRLs or something I just want to chill.
Literally
I really wanted to enjoy 2k25 i practiced and learned the game. They did alot but they left out a key component to make the game FUN FOR EVERYONE PERIOD. WHY THE HELL ARE WE PLAYING GAMES FOR NOW? The gaming industry in general has dropped the ball massively...truly sad times..
Game itself is fun, the system rn isn’t
it’s like wtf is the point of these different game modes like theater and proving grounds if you playing the exact same people
Literally
Bit of a long post incoming;
You do have some valid points. Objectively speaking though, it's better for it to be in the game rather than not. Could use some tweaks for sure (namely alleviating the matchmaking at high MVP ranking requirements so you can actually fill a lobby, or a separate gamemode that doesn't have SBMM but with reduced rewards to avoid "tryhards" abusing it, maybe incentivizing the ranked modes more but WITHOUT screwing over Rec, Theatre-onlys), but as someone who plays no squads Rec a good bit during some downtime the quality of the games this year is just so much fucking better than the other 2Ks. Not as much lobby leaving, fishing for better ranks, teammates get better as your ranking rises, etc. It's just a much better experience this year. Sure, there's still some frustrating games, but that's the risk you run playing solo and with people you don't know. I can tell you now, though, that I'd much rather have 100 competitive games down to the wire with players on my level than 50 games completely stomping the opponent then vice-versa the other 50 because the matchmaking is "balanced". Also, to address your point about COD... COD just simply has a different philosophy. Your terrible teammates have much less of an impact on how much fun you're having, whereas in 2K, one teammate can completely ruin your experience and be the difference between you winning or losing. You only have one basketball to share, whereas in COD, one teammate completely shitting the bed has (mostly) nothing to do with your overall KDA and the gun you shoot, which most players will have fun with in terms of their skill expression.
Honestly, outside of the tweaks I suggested there's no real way of going about this. Any change will cause some arguing in the community. Knowing 2K they'll go about this the completely wrong way and fuck over one side too much making the game worse than it is now and dropping the playercount more.
Something I want to mention though is that the idea of "casually" playing is overrated as hell. It's an online PVP game. People are going to try to win no matter what, regardless of what your definition of casual is. It's literally human nature. You wanna screw around, throw up some halfcourt shots? Go to MyCourt and invite some friends who will also have that in mind. No one's stopping you other than friend availability or yourself. You can still go to squads Theatre, Rec, or even Pro-Am 3V3 and fuck around. Sure, your opponents might be stomping you, but you're here to have fun and mess around, right? It's not like you're getting shot IRL for losing in 2K.
I'm not saying everyone who wants less sweaty gameplay wants to curbstomp noobs all the time, but honestly, that's like the majority of people who complain about SBMM. You aren't slick, dawg. Too many of those guys just out themselves the moment they get the opportunity. I know damn well most of you just want to fuck up some unsuspecting REAL casuals because you got fucked up by someone who's theoretically on the same level as you. Don't even get me started on people making literal NEW builds and investing VC into the most optimal stats without using too much of their stash, that's just pathetic.
It just sucks cuz playing w a irl who don’t really understand the game fr .. like chunking up dumb shots or trying to dunk on 3 ppl 😂 it’s so crucial this 2k to score every possession
They’re always trash lol
@@Choc2K I can’t even play w em fr I played w my irl and now im appearing offline for the last 5 days 😂 it’s bad bro I been running with a set 3/4
I do like the concept of sbmm in certain mode like no squads rec but every game is sweat central. I definitely don’t play as much but really think 24 match making was better overall.
respect
I'm not sure if anyone else has this, but I don't have a full 5 for rec, so I run with a buddy, we'll play with other squads.
Why tf are we facing teams running zones that are together and communicating.
We have a split team, but we face full squads everytime.
Additionally, we are both solid players, but yet we get rather bad teammates.
The combo of those two checked me out of this game, park is kinda sweaty and my build doesn't work to well with it, and I'm not much of a park player tbh. Shits all outta wack.
I don’t play rec but sounds annoying af
Exactly I don’t understand why my boy wants to go in the rec with 2 or 3 we literally going to have a Ai or fandoms who ball hog and play a full squad..
Last night, i had my first experience with matchmaking. Just tryna get a rec game it took 20 mins to finally get a full match, and best part i dont get play that much, so i only just got promoted from the bottom tier ti whatever the next tier is. In no way i should be waiting that long. Id consider myself average, and in no mode should it ever take that long unless its like super high tier. Not my casual ballin. Smdh. Preach my dude.
The wait times are absolutely insanity
Proving Grounds and pro am should be the only SBMM modes.
Legit
That godz event really showed me how trash sbmm is. I’m playing Ts with my lil brother and homeboy I think we played only starter 3’s and a couple pros on our 6 game streak. I’m good at the game but haven’t to be quiet locked in the whole time is not a fun experience
The experience is so hit or miss rn
Can’t lie there is no INCENTIVE for playing sweats all day..tomorrow double Rep event gone be hell for me
Literally
how is park skill based matchmaking? when you spawn in a park does it spawn in a bunch of people around your playstyle?
Yea 🤕
@@Choc2Kinterestiny
I’ve got a 15 min clip trying to play Rec with randoms and I think it was more than 20 minutes. Last year players play with goat player. This year players see a goat tier in pre-lobby they’re gone instantly.
It’s insane
I used to go in the theater & play 1s to practice being comfortable dribbling in front of a defender & get my defense right. Can’t even do that anymore. I was in the red tier but ima casual player why am matched against 3 top 100 proving ground players & 2 centers. Ppl with double the amount of hours I have played
Everyones a sweat. The casual player is a myth.
I can’t even really lab stick shooting at all because every game is game 7
Yall are complaining about the wrong things bro let’s talk about how I got level 40 and the reward is useless 🤣 like wtf is the point of hitting 40 every season
It’s def not useless
@@Choc2K if I only plan on staying with one build it is. Would’ve been better to just allow us to make Demi gods you already can but there’s no point in grinding to 40 every season unless you are going to make 100 builds
@@BoboMercs idk what he’s talking about lmao it’s definitely useless… you can only use it if you make a new build, buy vc then you can upgrade a badge twice lol. when you could get that badge maxed out in about a week. horrible lvl 40 reward
@@asogretro8290 lmaooo bro seriously!! And honestly you max the badge out faster than that depending on what it is. Like I’m not making 100 builds I make maybe 2 every year and majority of the time I play on one. They kill me with the stupid rewards they give us
I’m grinding on YT just like you brotha, you inspire me
You are nothing like choc, let’s get that clear. Stop smoking whatever you’re smoking
@@stewiegriffinfan18 we’re all just people man, god bless you Bro 😀
@@stewiegriffinfan18you’re weird 😭
@@stewiegriffinfan18 ok griffin
@@stewiegriffinfan18 lol
Yo bro I know this isn't the video for this question but if you don't mind what's the best behind the back for 6'6" in your opinion?
All my sigs on the channel for all builds
Man, that's a good point. Playing top players just to get 200 vc lol. The other good point is how you really don't have any real incentive to be really good at the game. Didn't really think of it like that.
I try to be as objective as possible. I don’t mind playing like my life is on the line IF there’s a reward.
Damn maybe it’s because I’m an old head but just simply beating you and have bragging rights was a good enough reward! You young ppl always need something extra to be motivated smdh
I will never feel good about beating “DJFatBoy”
@@Choc2K don’t be simple or dense lol it’s a nickname, I like snacks my g 😂
If im feeling sweaty i play with a shooter..if I'm not i have a masher big to just block and board with.
Word
It’s not even ranked though it’s experience based. Like how much you played. NBA doesn’t full on SBMM, they use EOMM, should look in to. It’s engagement optimization, it’s about getting you to play more and spend money. Look in to it. They definitely nerfed my career on the low yesterday too. Be up 22 in the first, get subbed out for 2 minutes and we are down 5.. you’re telling me the rookie bots went on a 30 point run in 2 minutes? 😂
I’ll have to check it out
Calling people bums and then complaining you don’t get to play them is next level narcissistic 😂😂
Heck yea
Damn I thought plate color would have any benefits for getting rewards thanks for clearing that misconception I had
No rewards whatsoever
Park should be more like street ball with the street ball dribble moves when you throwing the between their legs or throw the ball at their head. 2k just need to bring back the fun in the game because every game shouldn’t feel like I’m fighting to survive 🥲
Game is fun it’s just not fun that every game is hell
@@Choc2K it’s only fun with the right people you run with that’s hella funny but it’s bad when you playing with randoms that’s always trash talking in your ear it’s annoying ngl.
It’s basically what you make out of the game I gotta learn how to accept my mistakes I make and learn to make better decisions next game
Your not playing it for vc you playing it for 2x rep
You went to the sweatiest lobby in the theater it's a game 2k made if you don't like it don't play it
Don't cry and ask them to change their ideas to make the few happy
It’s like that regardless of the game mode you play bro. Lmao.
Few everyone will get games against people Worse and better than them would help everyone enjoy the game more
I understand both sides it's wrong the good players got to wait but it would be wrong to have good players play bums or casual players maybe they should make it easier to get RED plates where yaw will have more people to play and the casual players can still play casual players just a thought
I'm in the middle I am a quarter away from be PRO rank
All I play is 3v3 no squads
Super casual here never run a full squad, every 2k I keep about 60% win , but this 2k is sweaty af. Like dude I'm a gold bar average player my 3% is just around 50% so why am I playing sweats in every game mode?
@@steve7764 exactly bro it’s broken, but these people wanna still defend the system it makes no sense
It’s insane
At the very least they need to take full 5s out of rec. I can’t run with my 2 homies without going against a 5 stack of goat tier running zone and organized offense while we have 2 randoms on our team that don’t know how to play against that
Lol
And prove a ground should give you the most vc and rep
Forreal
I personally think if casuals are going to talk shit about us good/comp players. Go ahead and complain, but you are just telling them to make the game harder for us. If we are going to have skill based matchmaking in every game mode, we should have rep multipliers in every game mod as well. It should be tied to your tier system. If I’m goat tier give me 2x rep for every game I play. So I can hear all the casuals cry about, “why are you making the game easier for the comp players.” You guys will also cry about anything. You know why dribbling is harder? Cause you casuals cried about it, yet we can still dribble. You know why defense keeps getting easier? Cause you guys can’t play defense for shit. But, you still say these things need to be change because good players find a way too be good. That’s the difference, good players find a way to be good. Bad players want the game handed to them.
I agree with you 💯 %
I’m telling them to make the game balanced bro. You don’t get double rep for goat tier because you never get games. I’m saying some games should be comp, some should be chill. It’s been like that for 20 years.
Makes no sense to have ranked and then every mode is SBMM. I have a job so I cant play a ton and since im red plate I wait 10-15 mins for games. No fun for ppl who can only play a couple hours a day.. (Especially good players)
Literally
Divine facts my guy..!! and once everyone get cap breakers everyone will be going against the same builds same stats and then the rng layups rebounds etc will take over .. no reward for beating sweats we beat 2k league players the other night an got ntn
Facts
Thats why COD its not fun BO6 is a great game but the Sbmm feels like ranked every game💀
Literally
You don’t really want to chill you just wanna win easily
Heck yea
Sad thing is I don’t even think SBMM can be taken out 😳 we have to wait until 26
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Glock Jammed 11:14 LMAO man I enjoyed this match bro..
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yeah you literally can't get on the game and chill if you're good it sucks, have to have your good lineup to play anything
Yeah but think about it from a casuals perspective, the game takes much more skill this year. Imagine having to play against people who do this for a living, it’s not fair good players should play great players because great players are tired of playing other great players.
You also can’t play with your homies or anything. You are legit forced to be in GO mode all game.
@@arongholson4715Nobody is saying u play comp every game, back in 24 even if u were ass, if u played theater and park u were good. Just had to dodge stage and pro am, now it’s only balanced for casuals. And I mean it’s not even working literally most comp people are done with SBMM and pick up a 60 ovr. Now casuals have to play sweats even more because they get hunted lol
You need a comp lineup in every game just to play with your irl’s who aren’t even on your skill level that’s my problem with sbmm
Yep if anyone’s good your screwed
How do you know when you gonna get slow downs or speed ups?
Speed ups don’t happen. Slow downs r stamina
All they have to do is make black and bronze play each other and Gold and Red play each other! People cry all the damn time.
Or there could just be a balance and sometimes you sweat and sometimes you don’t
I agree, you shouldn’t be playing a casual slider gamemode waiting for 20+ minutes for a game. Keep it in comp slider game modes, if you are a casual and want to play casuals go to a ranked gamemode so you play other casuals, simple
Literally
I have no problems with SBMM. It should be in every mode there shouldn’t be a mode where I match a comp player.
Y’all be so scared
Bro wtf 😂 u trash
@@Choc2K
Hi Choc.
The issue is you guys have more skills, knowledge and time to practice than most of the people who play this game(casuals and below).
I never crossed starter1 in my life playing 2k because the grind is so big for me that becomes a headache. Now add the cap breakers and animations you get after starter3 to your repertoire. You are on "Godz" land type of tier. The only people that can match you would be people like yourself.
Now, what 2k has to create is another theater event or Rec mode without SBMM ..
Thank you.
@@JuanKa-A don’t make sense to these content creators. They want to beat up on lesser opponents for “content” IMO it’s weak af and beta mentality to complain about playing players on the same skill level as you
@@Choc2K😂😂😂 crazy considering the sweat who plays 100 hours a week is complaining about not getting to play guys who hop on for 1 hour a night
I do play red plates every game 😂
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massive rewards in valorant are a Gun Buddy that nobody uses unless its the Radiant Buddy so that comparison was a bit off
Ok bro!
@@Choc2K but i get your point for Sure but even 2k does a better Job giving us rewards then Valo great Video keep up the Grind
I dont play much online so i dont have those issues but can understand the complaints.. i just wish they buff on ball steals nerf lanes a tad. Shooting could use a small buff bt not imparative to me. I could learn Rhythm but dont like the fact that a person with a lower shooting attribute has a bigger green window then i can..
On ball steals are pretty nuts as is
@Choc2K bet.. for some reason. They may hv buffed it.. ima.see.
Yeah what was the point of proving grounds 😭 what flawed concept. At least give rewards and higher rep for higher rank games
Cool concept bad execution
Who thought it was a good idea to make Park ranked? 🤣🤣🤣
I’m not sure but it completely kills the point of the proving grounds
You have to buy more vc and you won’t have SBM
I wish lol
I respect your opinion but you are forgetting one very important factor.. these games are not designed for you or anyone else to make money. for a large portion of people they just play for fun
Not about my $
The "incentive" is us watching you play and you making money! Bc we can't beat the sweats, we watch you do it. I speak for all your fans. WE DONT WANNA SEE YOU PLAY BOTS!!
Your speaking for urself bro some of us don’t suck and beat sweats too lol
That’s not why anyone watches me
These comments are so dumb lol SBMM is absolutely terrible in casual game modes
Agreed
They should more vc in these higher level sbmm games. Are you playing against randoms with randoms in the theater?
Ageeed
the thing i dont like about it is i ranked up fast af and now im playing sweats every gm , and i switched over to rhythm shooting and its tuff to practice my shot when everyone is hugging me in the corner
Can’t practice or lab
Need the secret build you run. U know what I’m talking about
Hit me on twitch
In the gameplay you on your 6’3?
Yea
I seen cash out running with a 60 over all big and got drop off to try not to play with sweats
Lol
Sbmm has always been garbage.
Literally
Choc what do you think about post scorers? I haven’t seen any builds for them. Are you good trash?
Huh
@@Choc2K sorry I meant are post scorers bad or good this year? I typed that in between sets my bad.
Just play the game less, that simple. If its that big of a problem then u need to allow the “casuals” to catch up. For content creators who make money off the game and dont want to play less. Deal with it, you choose to play for hours on hours a day. So expect to play people that play hours on hours. There's other games than 2k.
Heck yeah bro 💪
@@Choc2K glad u agree big dawg 💪
No one single successful game doesnt have a unranked game mode i got a 60% win and aint that good and i still think its fucking tiering that i have to tryhard every game
@@linus2838 It's basketball 💀. Fun comes from competing not easy games. Same with madden. If u have a problem, rookie/ pro offline is an option. Or heck, just play on a lower overall.
Keep grinding bro
Already
Stage has always been the place for sweats while park was for everyone think this ruins the game see myself as slightly above avrage and dont find this matchmaking shit fun its so tiering and no successful game ever had not had a non Ranked game mode where they match everyone
Only problem i see is that gameplay in Ranked is Harder so no bum is going to Play it but removing skill based matchmaking might make the bums that wanna Play bums switch over to Ranked
Literallt
Here come the shitters tellin on themselves 😂 I’m only gold plate at this moment but it still takes 15 min to get a game
Lmao every time
Bro I feel like playing theater im in a war zone! I played nayynoss and freediddy, n won. I don’t mind playing them but I just want sum bum games. So I can turn my brain off n lay in my bed. It’s like another stage but 2x rep instead of vc
I think that’s the disconnect people keep hearing. They hear “I never want to play good people” and that’s NOT what I’m saying. What I’m saying is I want a BALANCE. Sometimes I wanna sweat, sometimes I wanna LOCK in. That’s all.
sbmm fucks up most games man.
Idk why it’s pushed so heavily now
@Choc2K player rentention. Which is flawed because that what they think ppl want. I can't play 2k long bro..shit just ain't fun like that
Rhythm shooting for PGS is terrible especially with a max lockdown on u😂 I get the boost and adapt and all that bs but bro just give us our x button back and the game would be 100x more fun for EVERYONE
You have your x button. Maybe you finally have to learn to play basketball and get your team involved and not just hide behind screens or iso all day
@@stewiegriffinfan18 I average 25 and 12 assists on 50% 3pt this year I get my team involved in simply talking about game enjoyability. U sound mad like u been getting cooked by tuff guards or sumn
@@stewiegriffinfan18 and no they made x button irrelevant by giving it 70% less of a green window than the stick. That’s dumb for sweats and casuals especially w how inconsistent the hitches and gathers are and how it’s randomly delayed
@@jacobcooper7064 if you’re as good as you claim, you shouldn’t be upset. The guards have had too much of an advantage in past 2ks so anything to nerf them is good
@@stewiegriffinfan18 nerfing them every single year is not good bro🤣
You goated though my guy….. they get worried when they see ya name
Doesn’t change the premise
@@Choc2K It was a compliment bro ! The premise remains of course
2k always mess up every year. It’s funny because sins 2k20 all I’ve seen is just fuck ups by the company
People didn’t even really like 20. C19 made everyone’s opinion change.
Stay safe brodie…W vid as always💪🏾
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nothing but facts
Always
It does take a while to get a game sometimes. So when I wait and finally get a game I don't want to have to play you "pros" trying to chill. Every game should be against "pros" if your a "pro". Us casual players disagree with you on this one.
So how did you play 2K before this year? Because before this year this wasn’t a thing. It takes a while to get games because the matchmaking set up.
If you’re are saying you forever want to play bums all day long that is lame.
@@Choc2KYes I've played before this year. I'm just saying I want to play close competitive games and I don't mind waiting. Getting blown out is no fun. Love the videos bud, you and black market are fun to watch.
So basically you want to go in the theater to boost. Listen I love your content because you do help me out a lot. You always give extra in your content I appreciate that give you a like all the time for the most part watch the whole video. But you need to stop fucking up the game up every year. I notice every year make a rant about stealing and they nerf the shit. Just play the fucking game bro. Make a 60 to chill if you want to play with us. You what it’s like every time they match us casual with you guys and we get blown out.
Yeah man 2K definitely listens to me Forsure. They VALUE my input!
Choc ion gonn lie though but lot of folks was asking for skill match making
Nobody asked for that
Agree here 100%
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Choc i aint got no one to play woth and i been watching u since 23 lets run
I’m the wrong guy ngl
I love the game and i dominate the game im loving it and i wanna play the best every night 💯🔥🔥👿
Cap !!!
@@Choc2Kyo bro😭
I love your vids and gameplay💯 but I am demon on this game I'm the guard that everyone trys to double and trap I love killing whole teams vids coming soon no CAP
Lmao imagine crying about playing people on the same level of skill as yourself! Mfs simps out here frfr….stop praying for an easy button! And that what ppl like Choc get for rushing to rep up, you get what you grind for 😂😂😂
Heck yeah bro 💪
let him cook
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Another common choc w
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Another video W
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🎉🎉🎉 must see
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*ayyyyyy yet another clickbait title trash video*
btw SBMM is a thing used since 2007 on a lot of games
*funny how y'all found out about it's existance almost 2 decades later and start to complain bout it only now lmfao*
Heck yeah 💪
love this video
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lolol your complaints are pretty poor and overexaggareted.
They’re not though. You don’t get the experience because you aren’t good at the game, which is fine, but it would be like me telling a carpenter he’s exaggerating the difficulty of his job when I’ve never been a carpenter.
@@Choc2K bruh you are a huge crybaby, game is brilliant and you are making up drama for clickbait views 🤦 a true embarrassment
Good idea by 2k but terrible execution
Agreed
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