I really liked the plates with food analogy to describe analytical and musical. I've often been stumped by the description of a headphone being musical. This metaphor makes it clearer to me.
I have probably watched all the HD6XX and some HD650 reviews and hands down yours is the best. Detailed, to the point, and covered everything there is to cover. Excellent!
@@chefgav1 This is BS based on one persons opinion, anecdotal evidence, a misunderstanding of how (in)accurate headphone measurements actually are (There will always be differences from rig to rig, headphone position on the rig, the training of the operator etc...) and the significant prevalence of unit variances. You'll find the majority of people in the know still believe the 6XX and 650 are the same headphone. Which is also what Drop themselves claim it to be. Not saying the rumour that they are different couldn't be true, its quite possible, but frankly there is not enough evidence to claim so. You'd need a larger sample size, measured on the same rig and or Drop actually admitting that the 6XX isn't a 650. And some guys ears do not equal proof, ears are far too fallible. Regardless of all this, commenting on a video that is over a year old to criticise what was (and frankly still is) a widely held belief that the 6xx and 650 are the same headphone is as short sighted as putting your beliefs in anecdotal evidence. Do you expect that your comment will go through a time loop back to when this video was published? But whatever, go off.
Nice review, big 6XX fan here. They can sound a little “dull” when you first swap from a brighter, treble-boosted headphone, but the detail is still there. But go back in the other direction and it’s like shoving screwdrivers in your ears! Variety is good, I own several headphones, but the 6XX is one you can listen to for four or five hours with no fatigue, well once you’ve loosened up the headband clamp.
Great review, I agree with every aspect of this review. One minor quibble , not just this review, but a lot of reviews, in regards to the bass. Before I got the 6xx, I was expecting them to be bass lite, but I found them to have a good amount of bass. The only aspect of the bass that wasn't as noticeable as some headphones was the 20hz to 60hz region. But what I find is that rolled off bass below 60hz isn't that noticeable with most music. It would be noticeable if the bass dropped off a cliff below 60hz, but a roll off still allows one to hear bass below 60hz.
HD 650 are the smoothest headphone i ever hear with that resolution, But there are others like Sundara that have better clarity and seperation but sound fake with metalic sound and the seperation and soundstage doesnt sound realistic like in real life that every instrument blend together. The gold Standar is the HD660s it has the perfect balance smooth but with clarity small soundsatge that works great for stereo music in your head sound , vocals in your head and not shout, seperation is not big with air betwwen the instruments its more realistic like listening music with instruments close to each other but without losing the texture and different sound of every instrument . HD660s are something that must listen side by side with every other headphone to understand how good they are.
Now that I own the HD6XX, I am in agreement with those who've noted that its high impedance (300 ohm) and overall presentation render it a stellar match for output transformer-less (OTL) vacuum tube headphone amplifiers (xDuoo TA-26 in my case) and music high in "organic" instrument content, such as minimally processed vocals, classical, and jazz recordings.
I love the HD6XX with my Chord Hugo 2 as a Dac/amp or as a Dac with the THXAAA789 as an amp. Its a fantastic sounding headphone. Not the best I have heard or the best in my collection but for the money its rediculous. One of my favourites ❤️👍
Subscribed. Long headphone reviews that are well structured and spoken by ‘philes like yourself, Metal, Resolve, Z, etc., are fun and educational. Thanks!
Where have you been hiding?. I have been watching youtube reviews for ages and never seen you. Luckily I did today. I own the 6xxs and I had watched dozens of reviews of them. Yours is by far the best of them all!. And your metaphor on musicality was so good, I had never thought about it in such accurate terms. Congratulations for the fantastic reviews and keep on with the good job!. Thanks
I have so many headphones and i always use HD 650 ... for their smoothnes . Until i got 1 year ago the HD 660s at first it was strange because u get more clarity more fast and tighter sound their is some harshness on bad recordings , because HD 660 doesnt have the 650 famous veil that makes every music smooth. So i had to keep them both for different reasons .
600 are flatter, 650 are darker and 660S have more resolution , soundstage,air, clarity , tight bass Overall 660S have the goods from both 600 and 650. But to be honest 650 needed for bad recordings and 600 for neutral sound comparisons . And 660S for perfection .
hey Wheezy First and foremost, let me say i love your channel I saw your reviews of the 599 and the 6XX. I own the 599, so how much of an upgrade woult it be going from this to the 6XX? mostly for gaming and media, and some music here and there
Question: I love my 2 pairs of HD6xx; 1 for music/TV and 1 for electronic drumming. Now I find I need something with very similar sound in closed back for when there is ambient sound. I am considering Beyer DT700 Pro X. Any agreement or suggestions?
Power the 6xx with a good amp and you can listen to music for hours and hours. the treble being slightly less has a lot to do with that. and i prefer this, and I think many others do as well.
hiimedd Depends on the quality of your source. If your PC has a crappy or noisy DAC you’ll hear it, from a Mac, iPhone or decent PC/Android phone you will be fine.
Shout out metal for liking your tweet. Loved this review! Shame it's not for me since I do play fps games and details in the corners matter to me :(. Do you have any plans on reviewing the akg 702/712?
HI’m great video, I have fitted the custom cans bass mod is now even better. That’s interesting bought mine but it did come from the states , regards mark
Update in shipping to UK. Drop don't have an EU program anymore and it would not cover UK if they did. I ordered the 6xx a few weeks back, I paid on the drop site, few days after it shipped which was 3 weeks later as it was near the end of the cycle although there was a 1 week delay. Arrived in UK a few days later I had an email from their agent in UK with a simple import duties etc plus a 9 pound fee pay ent made online, and 2 days later they arrived. Overall a quite easy experience. Note that often with normal US I have to go and pay duties through UKGOV site, then pay for instance Royal mail or whoever a separate handling fee of between 5 and 20 pounds. I wouldn't have an issue buying from Drop again.
Yeah its a shame they dropped the EU thing, and annoying the extra steps and hoops to jump through when importing. But as long as you know what to expect buying from Drop is pretty simple.
@@WheezyTech I was going to pick up a pair of hifima. 400SE's. Amazon UK have ananda, su dara etc but not 400se, Hifiman store etc seems to have abondoned UK after brexit, no UK pricing anymore, shipping appears to be direct from China etc., Very strange and somewhat offoutting as a UK resident as to if I want to deal with them., wondering if you or any of your UK subscribers had a view or news if they are going to sort this out?
i play electronic drums via midi and i recently bought ifi zen dac. I currently play on m50x and i'm thinking of upgrading to HD6XX or HD600. Which one would you recommend for playing the drums over songs?
I own the HD 6XX and Zen Can combo. If you find it sounds a little boring or too laid back, I found the Audio Technica R70X more exciting at around the same price. It has a shitty cable and the earpads don't have the 6XX's click to attach system. But it sounds a bit more exciting while retaining the smoothness.
hi.. just ordered the 6xx.. but just read is gonna take maybe 6 weeks total between the order to get the can at home.. but i don t know if in 2019 was a faster deliver to europe...
EU program is gone in DROP, so getting them outside of the US is still a pain. It may end up getting a 650 or 600 from a local retailer than getting the 6XX there.
I'd be curious to hear what do you think about the DT880 because to my ears they are so smooth and detailed that they made me hate instantly the hd58x at the point I sold it in three days. Maybe I'd think something like that about the hd6xx?
I have the DT 1990 Pro but havent yet heard the DT 880. I love both the 1990 and 6xx equally, one is aggressive, energetic and detailed, the other smooth and refined. Compliment each other quite well. RE the 58x, I want to get hold of a pair and see if they live up to the hype, but from what I've read they have been a little overhyped, you might like the HD6xx.
Hey man, check out the channel fresh reviews. He does a series DEDICATED to figuring out which headphones give the best pinpoint imaging for competitive gaming. He was an EX counter strike PRO player.
I agreed with most of your points apart from the imaging, I’d say they are great. I use them for CSGO and PUBG and I can pinpoint better than on my hd800
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Gen 3. I'm not overly happy with this combo atm tbh. Especially as UA-cam seems to mess with the audio after upload. I'm still trying to get it dialled in right.
This is a year later but I notice you spam the HD660s quite a bit in these comments. Wasn't it fine just to say it once? Why did you feel the need to say it multiple times. Also, the HD560s is so close to the HD660s that you'd be stupid to buy the HD660s. Lastly, the HD660s isn't the same sound signature as the HD650 and HD600.
@@kalel33 I am not spaming my friend, i am trying to help people that want to choose something. Personally i have all HD5 6 and 7 line of Sennheiser so if u see my comments a lot of people is asking for my opinion so its only good. Its not my need to say it many times i am not winning anything if this is your point i just love this hoby and try to help people , like someone else did that for me. U gone asked why in so many youtube videos? because the more i write the more people will see it . About HD 560s its not close to HD 660s u are wrong and no i am not stupid every headphone is different and i love it for different reasons . The HD660s has the same sound signature like HD 650 and 600 for sure . But again i respect your opinion but is wrong , u can read some measurements or even buy all of them and use them and know better like i did. Or just go to read my posts on Head-Fi that i write for all Sennheisers and some Hifimans. Thanks for replying.
@@Tripokaridos22 Spamming is writing the same thing over and over again, which you have done quite a few times in this comment section. You even wrote the same thing multiple times. I'm extremely skeptical that someone has bought all 11 models of the 500 series headphones. Also, on that I'm wrong that the HD560s doesn't sound like the HD660s, I live in a large metropolitan where I can actually audition them and they do sound the same. You can even find UA-camrs that compare them and say they are 2-5% difference. They are neutral headphones and not recessed highs with forward mid-range like the HD650, HD6xx, and HD600. Completely different sound signature. Even Sennheiser disagrees with you. This is what their official account on Head-fi wrote, "The bigger story here is its precise sound and lineage to our HD 6x0 series, namely the HD 660S". So yes, Sennheiser designed the HD560s with the same sound signature of the HD660s.
@@kalel33 I am writing the same thing over and over again the more people i chat with and i learn and they learn the better, i dont see any problem on that. About u are extreme skeptical that i have all HD 5 then u are right because i dont have 11 of them unless if there are some models that i dont know... I have the most of them 560.569,579,599,598,598CS,58X ,from Drop,the old jubilee , i also have HD 600,650,660s,700, 6XX from Drop and 2 of them are the new Romania version also the one of them have the new white ring pad. If u read my Head -fi comments u gone see a lot of pictures of my headphones , i also have Sundara, Clears, and some others like HD 25 etch etch . I love headphones its my hoby. U cant have an opinion about Headphone with one audition without using your music anc dac amp also they are open backs they need silent environment , youtubers also dont have the XP and the hours because half of them paid to say what they say and the others have only 1-2 hours of listening, ME? i have more than 200-300 on most of them and used with different dac amps, So i know better ( it sounds bad i know but it is what it is) So let me help u ... HD 660s DO NOT sound the shame or close to HD 560s . They image better they are warmer more natural sound with small soudnstage , HD 560s are more nautral cold with bigger soundstage etch etch.... ALL HD 6 Line , ALL have the shame characteristics everyone knows that all of them have Vocals in front all of them are warm on high bass all of them have amazing timbre and all them have in your head soundstage , the differences are small for example the most Neutral are the 600 the most warm and smooth HD650 and HD 660s that i love have some of both of them with way better imaging ,separation and tight bass. Honestly the only headphone that maybe sounds close to HD 660s is the HD58X and NOT the HD 560s. At the end sorry for telling u that... But if u told me that u have 40 headphones like i did would be more realistic than Telling me HD 560s sound close to HD660s that is just not possible . About what Sennheiser write ... Let me remind u what they write on the BOX of HD 660s first series ( the legend continues) its was about 650 legend. What they write is how U WANT to translate it , and because i speak with Sennheiser they mean that the new HD 560s is closer to HD 6 line and not LIKE HD 6 line ... Yeah they are way Different compared to my HD 599 for example and yeah they are Closer to HD 600 or 650 or 660s but they ARE NOT share the shame soundsignature , FOR GOD shake even the angled drivers and pads give huge difference. Anyways u should know that Senneheiser some times write something to sell , i am not . They even write that HD 25 sound the shame with HD250 BT , trust me they dont. If u understand all these good for u . If u dont i wish u to have 25 Years XP like i do and have way more headphones than me and get your own opinion. Until then u should listen Others with more XP than u, that is something that i do For example Ichos and Solderdude are a good starting point for u also... Read their posts and u gone learn something . Or u can keep seeing UA-camrs and bealive what ever u want to bealive .
@@Tripokaridos22 You don't see a problem with it but it's the literal definition of spamming a comment section. I forgot about the HD58x, so there are 12 500 series models. You don't have most of them, you have half of them. You're missing the 518, 559, 558, 595, 515, and 555, I guess Sennheiser and every single comparison review I've read are wrong, along with my own ears. By the way, I listened to them with a ifi Zen Can DAC and amp. They sell those too. I too have the HD6xx, along with the HD598, Focal Elex, and AKG K712 Pro. I tested the HD600, which were my favorite but the minor difference between them and the HD6xx wasn't worth the price. I thought the HD660s were very good but I wasn't looking for a neutral headphone. They sounded too close to my Elex without the punch and slam, along with lacking the detail. I wanted a warm headphone and they weren't it. My HD598 are closer to the HD6xx and HD600 than the HD660s to them in sound signature.
6XX series on Massdrop are the old Stock drivers and plastics . NEW Facelift October 2019 and after Original Sennheiser Series' made in ROmania have Waaaaaay better Plastics that dont crackling , better refinement on plastics , better paint , and better inside the pads quality materials. And yeah Sennheiser originals have better quality control than what Massdrop is getting.
@@faautobahna9416 The last stock parts has been moved to Romania Factory. Its was 3-4 months adaptive time. That's why some HD6 series headphones had the old grils and new pads . New HD6 series have the different headband, Driver with date after January 2020 (its written inside) the pads also are not Donut type 2.2 , they are Conical type 2.7 . If u want evidence u can call Sennheiser , or Read Head hifi forums. After they stock out the old ones ,Drop maybe will also get the new ones. Don't be afraid sound is the same , HD6xx smooth veiled sound, and HD660s resolution , imaging ,faster driver, tighter bass and little bit brighter than 6xx. Nothing change on sound.
@@faautobahna9416 By the way I prefer the old pads donut type to my ears , personally I take off my 6xx pads and place them to my 660S for this reason. Some say that new ones are more comfortable , its all about taste.
I have hd 6xx and i like it but i hate how the vocals pushed into my ears like the singer is just put his mouth in front of my ears and sing . I like the vocals to be a lil bit away from me
So I think the treble on the 6XX is plenty "bright". My only comparison is other Sennheiser headphones. I've owned only Senn's for nearly 10 years now(stopped using headphones at all for probably 4 of those years). Compared to all others I've used the treble is incredibly detailed and even too strong for my ears at some high frequencies. I'm very sensitive to treble, though. I can only imagine with many other brands I wouldn't be able to tolerate them at all if they're much brighter than these.
Oh yea you're right. If the hd6xx is boredrline bright for you, Many of the well known headphones would be too bright for you. You definitely wouldn't want any beyerdynamic headphones, that's for sure.
@@pajamas6767 not enough information. need to know your budget, open or closed headphones, do you have an amplifier for more demanding headphones? since this original comment I went down the rabbit hole and have owned Focal Elex, Radiance, Clear MG(I like them all). Also Beyerdynamic 1990 Pro's(stupidly harsh 9k peak). And Audeze LCD-X 2021 model. I don't use any of them despite still having all the Focal and the Audeze. Just 6XX. The comfort and amazing vocals win me over. Need to sell all the rest.
I never knew this was such a contentious pronunciation until now. Its very common in England, although not universal, probably more a regional thing, to say 'haytch' rather than 'aitch'. I do believe that 'aitch' is considered the most correct but 'haytch' is also accepted and I think in England, at least where I live, it is probably more common.
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I really liked the plates with food analogy to describe analytical and musical.
I've often been stumped by the description of a headphone being musical.
This metaphor makes it clearer to me.
I have probably watched all the HD6XX and some HD650 reviews and hands down yours is the best. Detailed, to the point, and covered everything there is to cover. Excellent!
Excellent review bro! I absolutely love my HD6XX! I run mine though an SMSL SP200 with a Topping D30. 👌🏼
Awesome, glad you liked it. I'm not running mine off of anything so fancy, just a Massdrop O2/SDAC combo.
@@WheezyTech you still using HD6xx with O2+sdac? I just got HD6xx with O2+sdac, you think it's a good dac/amp?
Ifi micro and nano are also amazing. And if u want something cheaper then Ifi Zen they have to me the best sound with HD 6 series.
@@chefgav1 This is BS based on one persons opinion, anecdotal evidence, a misunderstanding of how (in)accurate headphone measurements actually are (There will always be differences from rig to rig, headphone position on the rig, the training of the operator etc...) and the significant prevalence of unit variances.
You'll find the majority of people in the know still believe the 6XX and 650 are the same headphone. Which is also what Drop themselves claim it to be.
Not saying the rumour that they are different couldn't be true, its quite possible, but frankly there is not enough evidence to claim so. You'd need a larger sample size, measured on the same rig and or Drop actually admitting that the 6XX isn't a 650. And some guys ears do not equal proof, ears are far too fallible.
Regardless of all this, commenting on a video that is over a year old to criticise what was (and frankly still is) a widely held belief that the 6xx and 650 are the same headphone is as short sighted as putting your beliefs in anecdotal evidence.
Do you expect that your comment will go through a time loop back to when this video was published?
But whatever, go off.
Your videos feel so professional so the fact that you only have 1.4k subs is insane. You are so underrated. Definitely subbed
Awesome, thanks
I bought a pair of HD 6xx`s last year and I am very happy with my purchase and highly recommend!
Nice review, big 6XX fan here. They can sound a little “dull” when you first swap from a brighter, treble-boosted headphone, but the detail is still there. But go back in the other direction and it’s like shoving screwdrivers in your ears! Variety is good, I own several headphones, but the 6XX is one you can listen to for four or five hours with no fatigue, well once you’ve loosened up the headband clamp.
Yeah 650/6XX are one of those 'must own' headphones
Great review, I agree with every aspect of this review. One minor quibble , not just this review, but a lot of reviews, in regards to the bass.
Before I got the 6xx, I was expecting them to be bass lite, but I found them to have a good amount of bass. The only aspect of the bass that wasn't as noticeable as some headphones was the 20hz to 60hz region.
But what I find is that rolled off bass below 60hz isn't that noticeable with most music. It would be noticeable if the bass dropped off a cliff below 60hz, but a roll off still allows one to hear bass below 60hz.
HD 650 are the smoothest headphone i ever hear with that resolution, But there are others like Sundara that have better clarity and seperation but sound fake with metalic sound and the seperation and soundstage doesnt sound realistic like in real life that every instrument blend together. The gold Standar is the HD660s it has the perfect balance smooth but with clarity small soundsatge that works great for stereo music in your head sound , vocals in your head and not shout, seperation is not big with air betwwen the instruments its more realistic like listening music with instruments close to each other but without losing the texture and different sound of every instrument . HD660s are something that must listen side by side with every other headphone to understand how good they are.
I just ordered last week, cant wait to collect the parcel
Now that I own the HD6XX, I am in agreement with those who've noted that its high impedance (300 ohm) and overall presentation render it a stellar match for output transformer-less (OTL) vacuum tube headphone amplifiers (xDuoo TA-26 in my case) and music high in "organic" instrument content, such as minimally processed vocals, classical, and jazz recordings.
@@soulfulfool I have already done this (GE & Svetlana), and you are correct. ;-)
I love the HD6XX with my Chord Hugo 2 as a Dac/amp or as a Dac with the THXAAA789 as an amp.
Its a fantastic sounding headphone. Not the best I have heard or the best in my collection but for the money its rediculous. One of my favourites ❤️👍
Unless you plug them to quality OTL amp you dont know their full potential
Thank you very much, finally my search ended, I will buy these headphones without hesitation.
I just ordered them. Thank you. Liked, subscribed, and hit the notification bell.
Subscribed. Long headphone reviews that are well structured and spoken by ‘philes like yourself, Metal, Resolve, Z, etc., are fun and educational. Thanks!
Where have you been hiding?. I have been watching youtube reviews for ages and never seen you. Luckily I did today. I own the 6xxs and I had watched dozens of reviews of them. Yours is by far the best of them all!. And your metaphor on musicality was so good, I had never thought about it in such accurate terms. Congratulations for the fantastic reviews and keep on with the good job!. Thanks
Awesome, thanks :D
I have so many headphones and i always use HD 650 ... for their smoothnes . Until i got 1 year ago the HD 660s at first it was strange because u get more clarity more fast and tighter sound their is some harshness on bad recordings , because HD 660 doesnt have the 650 famous veil that makes every music smooth. So i had to keep them both for different reasons .
600 are flatter, 650 are darker and 660S have more resolution , soundstage,air, clarity , tight bass Overall 660S have the goods from both 600 and 650. But to be honest 650 needed for bad recordings and 600 for neutral sound comparisons . And 660S for perfection .
hey Wheezy
First and foremost, let me say i love your channel
I saw your reviews of the 599 and the 6XX. I own the 599, so how much of an upgrade woult it be going from this to the 6XX?
mostly for gaming and media, and some music here and there
Question: I love my 2 pairs of HD6xx; 1 for music/TV and 1 for electronic drumming. Now I find I need something with very similar sound in closed back for when there is ambient sound. I am considering Beyer DT700 Pro X. Any agreement or suggestions?
Cool review. Really. One of the best hd650 review.
Power the 6xx with a good amp and you can listen to music for hours and hours. the treble being slightly less has a lot to do with that. and i prefer this, and I think many others do as well.
Do you think it's necessary to pair a DAC with the amp or just the amp will be enough?
hiimedd Depends on the quality of your source. If your PC has a crappy or noisy DAC you’ll hear it, from a Mac, iPhone or decent PC/Android phone you will be fine.
@@antoinep9733 Thx!
First time visiting the channel. Love the videos!
Thanks for watching :D
Shout out metal for liking your tweet.
Loved this review! Shame it's not for me since I do play fps games and details in the corners matter to me :(.
Do you have any plans on reviewing the akg 702/712?
I've been shouted out
Yeah I've been thinking about picking up an AKG K7* or two. Maybe the K7xx as a starter, I've never heard any of that line before.
@@WheezyTech akg 702 and going on and off sale for just £85 on Amazon atm.
Sadly no 712 sales :(.
@@metal571 :D
7XX is terrible, they ruined the bass quality on it. Wouldn't recommend that one lol
I super super SUPER thank you for the explanation before reviewing
HI’m great video, I have fitted the custom cans bass mod is now even better. That’s interesting bought mine but it did come from the states , regards mark
In 2024, $300 AU, 3 weeks to Australia, still a great headphone.
Update in shipping to UK. Drop don't have an EU program anymore and it would not cover UK if they did. I ordered the 6xx a few weeks back, I paid on the drop site, few days after it shipped which was 3 weeks later as it was near the end of the cycle although there was a 1 week delay. Arrived in UK a few days later I had an email from their agent in UK with a simple import duties etc plus a 9 pound fee pay ent made online, and 2 days later they arrived. Overall a quite easy experience. Note that often with normal US I have to go and pay duties through UKGOV site, then pay for instance Royal mail or whoever a separate handling fee of between 5 and 20 pounds. I wouldn't have an issue buying from Drop again.
Yeah its a shame they dropped the EU thing, and annoying the extra steps and hoops to jump through when importing. But as long as you know what to expect buying from Drop is pretty simple.
@@WheezyTech I was going to pick up a pair of hifima. 400SE's. Amazon UK have ananda, su dara etc but not 400se, Hifiman store etc seems to have abondoned UK after brexit, no UK pricing anymore, shipping appears to be direct from China etc., Very strange and somewhat offoutting as a UK resident as to if I want to deal with them., wondering if you or any of your UK subscribers had a view or news if they are going to sort this out?
i play electronic drums via midi and i recently bought ifi zen dac. I currently play on m50x and i'm thinking of upgrading to HD6XX or HD600. Which one would you recommend for playing the drums over songs?
I'd recommend closed back so you don't hear the drum pads.
Open back bleed a lot od sound, but they sound better.
Hope that helps.
I own the HD 6XX and Zen Can combo. If you find it sounds a little boring or too laid back, I found the Audio Technica R70X more exciting at around the same price.
It has a shitty cable and the earpads don't have the 6XX's click to attach system. But it sounds a bit more exciting while retaining the smoothness.
Both HD58X and HD6XX are best bang for the buck headphones.
However, you need to take the back foam to make 58X sound more open
hi.. just ordered the 6xx.. but just read is gonna take maybe 6 weeks total between the order to get the can at home.. but i don t know if in 2019 was a faster deliver to europe...
Do the 6XX have the right amount of detail retrieval and instrument separation to deal with classical orchestra music please? Thanks
Hi great review, do you use O2 + SDAC on high or low gain with HD6xx?
You said the 6xx isn't best for gaming do to the soundstage. What would you say about the HD58X with a headphone amp?
EU program is gone in DROP, so getting them outside of the US is still a pain. It may end up getting a 650 or 600 from a local retailer than getting the 6XX there.
Really proff review. Very nice,thank you.
I'd be curious to hear what do you think about the DT880 because to my ears they are so smooth and detailed that they made me hate instantly the hd58x at the point I sold it in three days. Maybe I'd think something like that about the hd6xx?
I have the DT 1990 Pro but havent yet heard the DT 880. I love both the 1990 and 6xx equally, one is aggressive, energetic and detailed, the other smooth and refined. Compliment each other quite well. RE the 58x, I want to get hold of a pair and see if they live up to the hype, but from what I've read they have been a little overhyped, you might like the HD6xx.
First time here, looked at a few clips and really like your reviews.
What is the best headphone for FPS competitive games you have tried?
Hey man, check out the channel fresh reviews. He does a series DEDICATED to figuring out which headphones give the best pinpoint imaging for competitive gaming. He was an EX counter strike PRO player.
Excellent review.
Please add the amazon or website links for us to see the price. Good Review
I agreed with most of your points apart from the imaging, I’d say they are great. I use them for CSGO and PUBG and I can pinpoint better than on my hd800
HD660s have the best pin point direction , Way better than Sundara and other Sennheiser headphones.
Headphone with perfect treble response: Etymotic ER4SR
Hey owner of hd 6xx with a fiio k5 pro ! It's great !
I surely enjoyed your video. Thanks.
How's this for your first serious headphones? I am looking for a solid start into audiophile headphones.
You could both start and finish with these they are one of the classics
Cool video!
I mean I had to double check whether it was
1.4 M
Or
1.4 K
How do you compare these with the 58x?
I just ordered these the other day, over a month wait for them though 😩
difference between analytical and musical is the difference between dt880 and hd600 series
When would you get down to trying the 660s?
Thanks for the killer review.
Where is the EU program? I had to pay duty on my HD58x :-(
Out of curiosity, what do you plug the procaster into
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Gen 3. I'm not overly happy with this combo atm tbh. Especially as UA-cam seems to mess with the audio after upload. I'm still trying to get it dialled in right.
@@WheezyTech have you tried the cloudlifter preamp
I havent tried the original but I do have a knock off SubZero SZ-MA1 I reviewed it here: ua-cam.com/video/YyEbyI7V0dc/v-deo.html
No European Drop for UK anymore, I just had to order from US.
I love HD650, but HD660s are better in every way but veil...HD650 sounds smoother on bad recordings.
This is a year later but I notice you spam the HD660s quite a bit in these comments. Wasn't it fine just to say it once? Why did you feel the need to say it multiple times. Also, the HD560s is so close to the HD660s that you'd be stupid to buy the HD660s. Lastly, the HD660s isn't the same sound signature as the HD650 and HD600.
@@kalel33 I am not spaming my friend, i am trying to help people that want to choose something. Personally i have all HD5 6 and 7 line of Sennheiser so if u see my comments a lot of people is asking for my opinion so its only good. Its not my need to say it many times i am not winning anything if this is your point i just love this hoby and try to help people , like someone else did that for me. U gone asked why in so many youtube videos? because the more i write the more people will see it . About HD 560s its not close to HD 660s u are wrong and no i am not stupid every headphone is different and i love it for different reasons . The HD660s has the same sound signature like HD 650 and 600 for sure . But again i respect your opinion but is wrong , u can read some measurements or even buy all of them and use them and know better like i did. Or just go to read my posts on Head-Fi that i write for all Sennheisers and some Hifimans. Thanks for replying.
@@Tripokaridos22 Spamming is writing the same thing over and over again, which you have done quite a few times in this comment section. You even wrote the same thing multiple times.
I'm extremely skeptical that someone has bought all 11 models of the 500 series headphones. Also, on that I'm wrong that the HD560s doesn't sound like the HD660s, I live in a large metropolitan where I can actually audition them and they do sound the same. You can even find UA-camrs that compare them and say they are 2-5% difference. They are neutral headphones and not recessed highs with forward mid-range like the HD650, HD6xx, and HD600. Completely different sound signature. Even Sennheiser disagrees with you. This is what their official account on Head-fi wrote, "The bigger story here is its precise sound and lineage to our HD 6x0 series, namely the HD 660S". So yes, Sennheiser designed the HD560s with the same sound signature of the HD660s.
@@kalel33 I am writing the same thing over and over again the more people i chat with and i learn and they learn the better, i dont see any problem on that. About u are extreme skeptical that i have all HD 5 then u are right because i dont have 11 of them unless if there are some models that i dont know... I have the most of them 560.569,579,599,598,598CS,58X ,from Drop,the old jubilee , i also have HD 600,650,660s,700, 6XX from Drop and 2 of them are the new Romania version also the one of them have the new white ring pad. If u read my Head -fi comments u gone see a lot of pictures of my headphones , i also have Sundara, Clears, and some others like HD 25 etch etch . I love headphones its my hoby. U cant have an opinion about Headphone with one audition without using your music anc dac amp also they are open backs they need silent environment , youtubers also dont have the XP and the hours because half of them paid to say what they say and the others have only 1-2 hours of listening, ME? i have more than 200-300 on most of them and used with different dac amps, So i know better ( it sounds bad i know but it is what it is) So let me help u ... HD 660s DO NOT sound the shame or close to HD 560s . They image better they are warmer more natural sound with small soudnstage , HD 560s are more nautral cold with bigger soundstage etch etch.... ALL HD 6 Line , ALL have the shame characteristics everyone knows that all of them have Vocals in front all of them are warm on high bass all of them have amazing timbre and all them have in your head soundstage , the differences are small for example the most Neutral are the 600 the most warm and smooth HD650 and HD 660s that i love have some of both of them with way better imaging ,separation and tight bass. Honestly the only headphone that maybe sounds close to HD 660s is the HD58X and NOT the HD 560s. At the end sorry for telling u that... But if u told me that u have 40 headphones like i did would be more realistic than Telling me HD 560s sound close to HD660s that is just not possible . About what Sennheiser write ... Let me remind u what they write on the BOX of HD 660s first series ( the legend continues) its was about 650 legend. What they write is how U WANT to translate it , and because i speak with Sennheiser they mean that the new HD 560s is closer to HD 6 line and not LIKE HD 6 line ... Yeah they are way Different compared to my HD 599 for example and yeah they are Closer to HD 600 or 650 or 660s but they ARE NOT share the shame soundsignature , FOR GOD shake even the angled drivers and pads give huge difference. Anyways u should know that Senneheiser some times write something to sell , i am not . They even write that HD 25 sound the shame with HD250 BT , trust me they dont. If u understand all these good for u . If u dont i wish u to have 25 Years XP like i do and have way more headphones than me and get your own opinion. Until then u should listen Others with more XP than u, that is something that i do For example Ichos and Solderdude are a good starting point for u also... Read their posts and u gone learn something . Or u can keep seeing UA-camrs and bealive what ever u want to bealive .
@@Tripokaridos22 You don't see a problem with it but it's the literal definition of spamming a comment section.
I forgot about the HD58x, so there are 12 500 series models. You don't have most of them, you have half of them. You're missing the 518, 559, 558, 595, 515, and 555,
I guess Sennheiser and every single comparison review I've read are wrong, along with my own ears. By the way, I listened to them with a ifi Zen Can DAC and amp. They sell those too. I too have the HD6xx, along with the HD598, Focal Elex, and AKG K712 Pro. I tested the HD600, which were my favorite but the minor difference between them and the HD6xx wasn't worth the price. I thought the HD660s were very good but I wasn't looking for a neutral headphone. They sounded too close to my Elex without the punch and slam, along with lacking the detail. I wanted a warm headphone and they weren't it. My HD598 are closer to the HD6xx and HD600 than the HD660s to them in sound signature.
6XX series on Massdrop are the old Stock drivers and plastics . NEW Facelift October 2019 and after Original Sennheiser Series' made in ROmania have Waaaaaay better Plastics that dont crackling , better refinement on plastics , better paint , and better inside the pads quality materials. And yeah Sennheiser originals have better quality control than what Massdrop is getting.
Evidence? I got my HD 6xx earlier this month and its made in Romania.
@@faautobahna9416 The last stock parts has been moved to Romania Factory. Its was 3-4 months adaptive time. That's why some HD6 series headphones had the old grils and new pads . New HD6 series have the different headband, Driver with date after January 2020 (its written inside) the pads also are not Donut type 2.2 , they are Conical type 2.7 . If u want evidence u can call Sennheiser , or Read Head hifi forums. After they stock out the old ones ,Drop maybe will also get the new ones. Don't be afraid sound is the same , HD6xx smooth veiled sound, and HD660s resolution , imaging ,faster driver, tighter bass and little bit brighter than 6xx. Nothing change on sound.
@@faautobahna9416 By the way I prefer the old pads donut type to my ears , personally I take off my 6xx pads and place them to my 660S for this reason. Some say that new ones are more comfortable , its all about taste.
how much did the UK import cost?
Please review sennheiser hd58x.
I have hd 6xx and i like it but i hate how the vocals pushed into my ears like the singer is just put his mouth in front of my ears and sing .
I like the vocals to be a lil bit away from me
HD 4XX?
What headphones do you use in this vídeo?
AKG K371
@@WheezyTech Thanks friend
I have all the 5 and 6 series , HD 660S are way better on everything , no veil , faster, better clarity, rsolution , imaging....
I'm not a fan of the Beyerdynamics HP. They are too sibilant.
So I think the treble on the 6XX is plenty "bright". My only comparison is other Sennheiser headphones. I've owned only Senn's for nearly 10 years now(stopped using headphones at all for probably 4 of those years). Compared to all others I've used the treble is incredibly detailed and even too strong for my ears at some high frequencies. I'm very sensitive to treble, though. I can only imagine with many other brands I wouldn't be able to tolerate them at all if they're much brighter than these.
Oh yea you're right. If the hd6xx is boredrline bright for you, Many of the well known headphones would be too bright for you.
You definitely wouldn't want any beyerdynamic headphones, that's for sure.
@@pajamas6767 not enough information. need to know your budget, open or closed headphones, do you have an amplifier for more demanding headphones?
since this original comment I went down the rabbit hole and have owned Focal Elex, Radiance, Clear MG(I like them all). Also Beyerdynamic 1990 Pro's(stupidly harsh 9k peak). And Audeze LCD-X 2021 model. I don't use any of them despite still having all the Focal and the Audeze. Just 6XX. The comfort and amazing vocals win me over. Need to sell all the rest.
@@garyluciani370 or most of planars, they are terrible with highs
How are you pronouncing that H? That's wild stuff, dude.
I never knew this was such a contentious pronunciation until now. Its very common in England, although not universal, probably more a regional thing, to say 'haytch' rather than 'aitch'. I do believe that 'aitch' is considered the most correct but 'haytch' is also accepted and I think in England, at least where I live, it is probably more common.
@@WheezyTech Thanks for the response. I guess in the end it is more correct to actually say the "h" sound, not just "aitch".
This guy's too hard core
Each opinion, each ass. Everything has one.
Audio proof, please.
Wut?
No sorry ,this is not the wayiwant listen to music anymore This ia world who is dying